Behold, the biggest jobber of the Pokemon world>was a champion for less than 2 years>lost to the protagonist in GSC, HGSS, BW2, SM, USUM and Let's Go>NPCs never talk about him like they talk about other champions and former champions
>>58533531He also lost to Lance between RBGY/FRLG and GSC/HGSS
>>58533531And yet he's still remembered as le strongest trainer in history and pushed as such by both fans and TPC. Not that I see it as a good thing, mind you, I wish the GSC protags got the recognition and prestige they deserve (defeated Team Rocket for good, won 16 badges, defeated Red)... but it is what it is.
>>58533531Contrary to popular belief, Game Freak couldn't care less about Red. His appearance in SM was a mere afterthought thrown in the post-game because it was the anniversary or something. But for some reason, the Mastersex guys wanted to present him as someone important. And now you have a portion of the fandom convinced that Red is GF special kid when they've actually forgotten about him long ago
>>58533640I thought he just gave up the title
>>58533531>lost in the Johto GamesDebatable, they keep the canon outcome of that battle vague for the sake of maintaining Red's reputation.>B2W2PWT's international brackets basically aren't canon considering they let known Yakuza Boss Giovanni join the festivities without any problem, all the while he's actively brooding and plotting vengeance for all to hear and see.>SMUSUMDebatably never actually happened because the Alola protagonist could've chose to fought Blue instead, and battles within the Battle Tree are dubiously canon.>LGPECompletely different continuity, doesn't count as a blemish to Red Prime.
>>58534294Id say that only the johto games are valid and canon
>>58533640>he lost to LanceThat's a good joke anon. Red just walked away without saying anything and nobody could find or contact him because he doesn't have a phone.
>Post game stuffLook I'm not some Redfag that constantly props him up to be the strongest ever or some shit but post game stuff should never be counted. The only thing here you can really count is the Johto games since they deliberately make the credits play after you beat him on Mt Silver.
>>58533531Blue jobbed 5 minutes after becoming a Champion.
>>58533531don't blame Red, blame the disgusting amount of powercreep that got worse and worse after his generation
>>58533531Gold's bitch
>>58533695>And now you have a portion of the fandom convinced that Red is GF special kidYeah, ashfags have been pushing this for years.
>>58534828He's the Goku of the pokemon fanbase, everything's valid in order to make him look worse.
>>58536662I think even Goku is more cherished than Red. Yumes in general don't seem to have much affection for the character, and the male fanbase only accepts Cynthia.
>>58536977Obviously, he's more popular than Red.I meant in the sense that the haters of both act the same.
>>58533678> wish the GSC protags got the recognition and prestige they deserve (defeated Team Rocket for good, won 16 badges, defeated Red). ... but it is what it is.Game Freak would rather commit sodoku than make the GSC protags or really anything from Johto look cool. Unfortunately that poisonous mentally leaks into the rest of TPC as well
>>58533531I like Red. He makes a nice simple bonus boss. You dont need any backstory. He doesnt need any dialogue.Just a battle with a trainer that has enough raw power to keep up with the player.
>>58536977Thats because Red is more so popular with fujos who ship him with blue.
Any player character who appears as an NPC will lose to the current player, that's just how video games are.
>>58537339And genwunners. But those usually don't spend much time on the internet
