can he be fixed like Lysandre?
>>58535851We'll see in Legends Galar when he gets sent to the past with us
>>58535851Literally anyone except Ghetsis can be redeemed at this point.
>>58535851He just has a Messiah complex, he doesn't really have any issues to fix beyond the inflated ego.
>>58535851Give him ADHD meds so he can wait the 2 seconds to enact his plan properly and he’s all good
>>58535859>>58535862>>58535881i don't mean fix as in "i can fix him" i meant making his motivations make sense
>>58535904Multiple adaptations already did this.For example, PokeSpe fixed it by making the energy crisis happen much sooner than 1000 years, justifying Rose's insistence on making the Darkest Day happen ASAP, and the anime fixed it by making Rose's motivations stem from trauma (his dad died in a mining collapse, so he wants to use the infinite energy of Eternatus so no one has to work in such dangerous positions and suffer a similar fate) and ultimately do his father justice by making a better Galar, like what the mining operations were supposed to do.
>>58535851literally all they have to do is just reveal some pressing reason for him to have rushed itrose's motivation was fucking stupid but lysandre was fundamentally more broken by the fact that his motivation made no sense for a utopian world like pokemon where every single bad thing in kalos was caused by lysandre's own subordinates
>>58535862eh, they'll come up with something. le tragic backstory, memory loss, whatever it takes. at this point they're utterly terrified at the idea of an irredeemable villain in pokemon>>58535904lysandre's motivation made sense, though? he wanted to wipe out anything and anyone that didn't fit his idea of beauty (and unless i'm mistaken, ZA didn't try to "make sense" of lysandre's goal, it just gave the guy a redemption). a motivation can be utterly fucking insane and still make sense. chairman rose's goal was utterly fucking insane on top of not making sense
>>58535961Diantha being ugly was not caused by Team Flare
>>58535961>but lysandre was fundamentally more broken by the fact that his motivation made no sense for a utopian world like pokemon where every single bad thing in kalos was caused by lysandre's own subordinatesIf Pokemon was a utopian world Teams wouldn't exist. EMMA wouldn't exist. Bro how do you forget the kid eating from the trash that can't even read or write.
>>58535851He’s too ugly to be fixed
>Darkest Day happened millennia ago>afterwards Eternatus went to sleep>Rose found where it’s sleeping but it’s slowly starting to wake>when it wakes up it’ll trigger another Darkest Day but Rose can’t predict when that’ll be>to avoid the crisis caused by a sudden awakening he wants to preemptively wake it up and defeat it>tries to talk Leon and the Gym Leaders into his plan>they think he’s crazy for intentionally waking it and turn him down>Rose decides to force them to act>waits until the Champion Cup tournament when all the strongest trainers are in Wyndon>awakens Eternatus and events play out as usualwould be much better than the stupid energy crisis plot
>>58535859Legends Galar will be 5 years in the future where he discovers Heliolisk and Regieleki exist and he goes crazy and ends himself.
>>58535851yes, but it will take one day to fix him.
>>58535964>ZA didn't try to "make sense" of lysandre's goalit kind of did, in one of the logs in the labs it was mentioned how lysandre's motives were also driven by 'concerns' of resource overconsumption, which i don't think was ever brought up in XY
>>58536113Nah its 1000 years in the past
>>58535904Rose's motivations make sense if you consider his real goal was to create the ultimate spectacle in Galar that would immortalize him in Galar history forever. Imagine it, Rose's champion defeats Eternatus, stops the Darkest Day, and saves the country from a crisis it will face ages from now, ALL during his most successful Champion Cup yet.
>>58536228More like 5 years in the future before jumping 1000 years to the past
>>58535851Lysandre's motivations weren't the problem, they're a pretty interesting take on standard depictions of madness. The execution was awful, that's why making the character reappear with a better execution could reseem his fundamentally interesting theme and motivation.Rose's motivations and methods are fundamentally idiotic and unrealistic.The obsessions with perceived purity and uniformity draw from real facets of the human mind that are simply exaggerated in the character, there are historical equivalents to this obsession with "cleanliness"/"beauty" (Hitler and his hatred of "degenerate art" comes to mind)Chairman Rose's motivations are an extrapolation of a fundamentally rare and unrelatable aspect of the human mind which is anxiety about an extremely far away future, the average human struggles with taking action yo fight an increasingly imminent climate catastrophe because it's so hard for us to fight the animal instincts that tell us to focus on the present and immediate future, a villain that takes this to an even further extreme cannot be relevant commentary on anything observable in the real world
>>58536228MEDIEVAL GALAR. HOME.
>>58536113>where he discovers Heliolisk and Regieleki exist and he goes crazy and ends himself.Why?
>>58535961>the fact that his motivation made no sense for a utopian world like pokemon where every single bad thing in kalos was caused by lysandre's own subordinatesNo, that actually makes more sense. A utopian world has no natural checks against population growth because everything is peaceful and plentiful, which causes populations to explode and makes those resources to no longer be plentiful. You can see that in our world right now.
>>58536504They can make energy I presume
>>58535851ONE DAY
>>58536528Kek Can't be any worse than ONE CITY
>>58536228>pre Kalosian invasion Anglo Saxon GalarCould be kino
>>58536521What does this have to do with dynamax?
>>58535904No one can be fixed for that matter anon.If anything, his motivations are the ones that make the most sense other than, MAYBE, gen 1 Giovanni.
>>58536462>the average human struggles with taking action yo fight an increasingly imminent climate catastropheStill falling for this grift? Please do better. Don't be a billionaire's useful idiot, comrade.
>>58535862I will laugh my SS off if they made ghetsis redeemable by either turning him into the emperor of pokekond walking a harsh path for a better future, or being distraught by losing the love of his life when he realized it was a zoroark.
>>58536736Wdym?
>>58536504>One Heliolisk basking in the sun with its frill outspread is all it would take to produce enough electricity to power a city.
>>58537393What does this have to do with dynamax?
