Honest thoughts on the unova starters
>>58539624I love Gen V, but they're arguably the worst batch of starters.>OshawottThe one time a starter should've had a bipedal final evo>SnivyShould've been dragon/grass. Literally worthless without contrary.>TepigShould've had Rock Head instead of fucking reckless to set it apart.
>>58539624the ultimate pleb filter
Really bad.
Smugleaf > pig > tumblrina
>>58539722Shit I forgot what oshawott evolved into because the later gens are really insignificant to me. StillSmugleaf > pig > ugly otter clown
>>58539624They're just fine. Not great like Kanto or Hoenn's, but not atrocious like Galar's.
>>58539624I like all of them. Not incredibly passionate about them but they're good.
>>58539624The worst starter set in the franchise
>>58539624The Oshawott line (apart from the edgelord) and Snivy line are absolute peak Pokemon designs. Tepig seems like it'd be better as a non starter mon.
>>58539840Gen 8 exists
>>58539624They're fine, but dragged down by the pig
>>58539840>>58539885Gen 7 also exists
>>58539624Snivy is the best thing that happened to Pokemon. Period.
>>58539890I at least like rowlett because I love owls, but for me gen 8 had nothing I liked. I didnt even grow to like the monkey which is the one I picked that I hated the least.
>>58539840Gen 8 exists though:>gorilla with anal drum storage>man in rabbit fursuit>blue sceptile on ozempic
>>58539840Gen 9 is right there, but I kind of agree
>>58539624They suck
>>58539890Gen 7 has great starters you weirdo
>>58539890This
I love Oshawott so much. He's so cute.
The grass one is terrible (like usual) and Oshawott gets ugly when it evolves. I default to fire starters except in gens 2 (all bad) and 9 (the first good grass starter).
>>58539624Smugleaf is the single greatest starter.Rest is okay I guess.
>>58539624Shit starters since Gen 2 but not as worse as Gen 9
I remember the outrage when Dewott didnt turn into a bad ass samuraiThe one time people were okay with something being bipedal
>>58539644>Hurr muh weeb fursuiter!Nah you have shit taste
>>58539624Love em, better than the slop we've been getting recently
>>58539624I love them, but I wish Osha and Smugleaf got secondary types. Samurott was and is my favorite despite this
>>58540312>Bipedalism = Fursuits! They weren't lying by saying that 4channers are retarded
>>58540299Except Samugod is tolerated outside of this dogshit board.
>>58540374>Reddit poll
>>58540382I wonder what results we'd get these days, with the Greninja nerfs and aah Greninja gone for a while the frog might be less dominant. Golisopod is kind of forgotten, I expect solgaleo being bad probably made it slowly drop too, zoroark is probably not 2nd in unova amymore. Zygarde probably rose and I expect lyranroc probably dropped a bit
>>58540470Rilla probably rose and inteleon lowered, I wish we'd get another one
>>58539624Grass snake is coolWater otters mid evo sharts on its final evo both forms.The pig is boring, not even a new mega could save it. Low C tier starter batch.
>>58539840Agreed, only gen where I don't really like any of them visually and they're boring gameplaywise too.
>>5853962415 years later and they’re still easily the worst set of starters.They fucked up in so many ways it’s like they were doing it on purpose. It’s telling that a fucking objectmon is more popular than the fucking main mascot shillmons of your gen.
>>58539624To this day, I’ve never seen such a badly designed snake again in any media. The pig is lazy, and the otter isn’t good either. In my eyes, it’s still the worst starter trio to this day.Froakie, Froakie, and Scorbunny saved their batch. But in Gen 5, they all look bad.
>>58539840Galar>>58539890I say this as someone that hates incineroar, gen 7 is actually fine. I wouldnt put it in S tier but theyre solid. Galar starters on the otherhand are hideous. All three of them are humans in a suit with a job.
>>58540625>All three of them have cohesive designs that make senseHow is this a problem again
One of the worse trios next to the Gen 9 and Gen 2 starters
Tepig okSnivy goodOshawott starts good but Samurott is just awful.
>>58539840Serperior saves it in the same way Decidueye saved Alola.Galar is the worst by far. Intellion and Cinderace are really bad, and Rillaboom is just ok. Paldea is great. Shame Quaxly is kinda mid.
>>58540017This, God I hate all the Gen 9 starters
>>58540737What's wrong with fire crocodile
Gens 6+ all have at least one good one, 5's best only matches every other Gens worst
>>58540629The problem being that they looks like shit. Do go on crying about new megas with concepts executed horribly if you cannot do the same with Galar starters4yxyn
>>58540770Serperior is way better than Incinecringe, come on.
>>58540756Its fire looks goofy
>>58540782He's goofy. That's why I like him.
>>58540780>The problem being that they looks like shit.oh…so like the gen 5 starters thenexcept the gen 5 starters are also dogshit mechanically on top of looking terrible
>>58540853>so like the gen 5 starters thenEmboar aside, Serperior and Samurott at least still look like animals. Can't see Serperior trying to play soccer, being in a band or whatever career it wants to do upon being born
this thread’s a singularity of bad taste
>all these people insisting Galar is worseThe gen 5 starters aren’t popular with anyone. At least Cinderace has fans.
Snivy has one of the most solid starter lines.Using it in Unova felt like being punished, though.
>>58540876Pokemon aren’t supposed to look like animals. Looking like an animal inherently makes Samurott worse because they slapped on a job that animals don’t have.
>>58539624i like the tepig line. even the mega i'm happy withi almost like the oshawott line but samurott looks too awkward. i don't have any confidence it could manage to actually hit anyone with that sword
>>58540959there are no animals in the pokemon world anymore. pokemon are the animals. there should be pokemon that are animals.
>>58540947Keep seething. Galar starters are the most disliked in the series. Cinderace is a failed shillmon
>>58540876>Can't see Serperior trying to play soccer Yeah because she's too busy to be a french monarch instead
>>58540977>there [FANFIC]
>>58539624Samurott could have had Greninja-tier popularity if they didn't fuck it up"otter that uses shells as samurai armor and weapons" is a genius concept with one of the worst executions in the whole fucking franchise
>>58540998>Its not muh weeb fursuiter so its le bad!Your taste is just dogshit m8
>>58541072>Its not muh good design so it’s le bad!Correct>y-you just have dogshit taste!And so does everyone else who didn’t have gen 5 as their first games, apparently
>>58540947This, /vp/ has been in complete denial over the rabbit kek
>>58540980Cope. Cinderace is still popular in Japanese polls and sells tons of merch.>but Japan doesn’t count!!!Japanese franchise.
>>58541167>Merch Where? https://www.pokemon.co.jp/goods/?pokecen=0&page=1
>>58539624They're my favourite, I love them. Simple animalistic designs that use their standout features as inspiration for fantastical elements, good body shape variety, not just-gets-bigger or just-gets-human. It's everything I want.
>>58539624Most overhated trio of starters to ever exist. They're just fine.
>>58540947cinderace doesn't hold a candle to oshawott's popularity>b-but it's not a final stagedoesn't matter
>>58541153Its been like this since his reveal, there's some real schizos on here for this damn rabbit
>>58541214i just want to fuck it desu
>>58541117>Its not muh good design Said by no one >>58540374You lost
>>58539624Snivy line is bland but not that bad, Tepig line is also mediocre but is the best fire starter line overall, and Oshawott, despite being the best in concept, shits the bed from start to finish. As a trio they're not great and are inferior to their Gen 4 predecessors.
>>58541222gay
>>58541222Honestly? Respect
>>58541222I respect people that are honest. If you want to fuck it, by all means. This starter does nothing for me personally and that's fine.
>>58541204>emboar>simpleyou're retarded
>>58541222I think he's cute and cool
>>58540299but it IS a badass Samurai
>>58539624>Crippled samurai >Barabait pig i'll take the snake thanks
>>58542151The only thing that’s “crippled” is your brain lmao
>>58542184>No u Predictable
>>58542184The only thing that’s “crippled” is your brain lmao
>>58542478parroting is an admission of defeat
>>58539624sexpig
>>58540382It's funny because Samurott isn't actually doing so bad in this poll despite how everyone plays it up>>58540476Depends, if it's mostly western voters then Inteleon would probably be loweredIf jp voters are in Inteleon would stay strong
>>58540621The pig isn't lazy being based on said character from the journey to the west but it sucks coming right after chimchar which already did that theme. Now both of them look bad by overdoing the theme.
>>58540947>It may be shit, BUT IT'S POPULAR!So?
>>58542115nothats a Sea World floatation device for children to ride on
>>58539624Samurott really should have been Water/Fighting, or at least Water/Steel.
>>58541641Same, I love the Shonen Protagonist rabbit
>>58539624Underrated. The base forms are top 3 for me.
>>58539840But enough about Kanto.
>>58540730>Decidueye saved AlolaIncineroar and Primarina are god-tier, and even if they weren't, Shitcidueye isn't saving anything.
>>58543721>It may be shit,source?
Half of this thread is the anti Samurott sped samefagging, again.
Carried hard by the snake, but innofensive mostly
>>58539624I always liked them.
>>58539624Game freak stopped giving a fuck after Gen. V.
>>58539624They should have gotten split evolutions in B2W2. >SnivyWould keep its arms and legs unlike Serperior losing them. Would not be as long.Typing could be Grass/Poison, Grass/Steel, or maybe Grass/Electric.>TepigSince Emboar was the only dual-typed final evolution, this time it would be mono-Fire.Design-wise it would have faculative bipedalism. Think Beast Ganon from Hyrule Warriors.>OshawottDefinitely would be a bipedal samurai in design.As for its secondary typing, Steel, Fighting, or maybe Rock could work.
>>58539624Tepig's evos aside, they are fine but I can understand why a lot of people dislike them especially back in the day. They feel like underwhelming in contrast to the gen 1-4 starters both in design and gameplay. Emboar should have been either part Ground or Dark and Samurott should have been the one to be part fighting. In the main games (so not counting Contrary), Serperior is one of the worst starters in the series especially in BW2. I'd argue it's even worse than Meganium. It has such a shit movepool, it doesn't have utility powders, no earthquake, no non-useful grass moves. Meganium at least has poison powder early on, body slam and earthquake if you want to use it. The only it got is Aqua Tail in BW2's late game. And Glare is an egg move.>>58539840Like the other anons said, Galar is the worst. At least I care about Oshawott and Snivy's lines. Gen 8 is the only gen I don't like any of the starters.
>>58545889>I'd argue it's even worse than Meganium.you'd be wrong
>>58544221Having eyes.Shame you were born blind and retarded.
>>58545911Why are you projecting, sagie?
Gen 9 is so much worse
>>58540621>the rabbit fursuit saved its batchlol
>>58539840I despise the SV starters
>>58545830>The sequels should give them new split evos for no reason but to please angry manchildenNo thats a retarded idea
>>58546014>>58545830>Definitely would be a bipedal samurai in designwhoever is samefagging this is completly delusional.
>>58539624I want to say they're probably in the upper half of starter trios for me. I remember only really liking Serperior's line when they were revealed but I've come around to Samurott and Emboar since then as well
>>58546326Yeah considering the slop we've gotten since like the gen 9 starters and the ugly Gay Sniper lizard
>serperior is one of the worst fucking starters to use in the whole franchise because of its dogshit movepool and it took until gen 6 finally releasing its HA to fix it>emboar is a shitmon, not only copies fire/fighting for the third time in a row, they also shamelessly rehashed infernape's chinese motif AND the design looks like fucking dogshit with no neck, beard that doesn't even look like a beard, and weirdly long arms>samurott is a shitmon, is another boring monotype mixed attacker despite using swords, and has a ridiculous design that makes no fucking sense because the designer forgot he was making pokemon instead of zoo animalsEasily the worst set of starters and I don't imagine they're going to be trumped any time soon. They fucked up in so many different ways it's like they were trying to make the shittiest starters ever on purpose as a joke.
>>58546349Yeah 8 and 9 have some pretty awful trios, I thought I was at least ambivalent towards Inteleon and Skeledirge but both trios are just lame and off putting
>>58539624I think Emboar should've been Fire/Dark instead of Fire/FightingAnd Hisuian Samurott's stats should've been/should be base Samurott's as well
>>58546439Emboar should have been a Fire/Ground pig based on mud wrestling and Samurott should have been a bipedal Water/Fighting.
>>58546449>Samurott should have been a bipedal Water/Fighting.fuck no
>>58546460fuck yes
>>58546465looks shittier than what we got desu
>>58546460Trash vs Garbage
>>58546465looks better than what we got desu
>>58546460>>58546465Imagine having taste so shit to believe these revisions even look good
>>58546481The samurott we got still looks better.
>>58546491magine having taste so shit to believe samurott looks good
>>58546473The samurott we got still looks worse.
>>58546481 >Not a single good design How do pokefaggots cope?
>>58546481>>58546465Your OC sucks and the OG is a kino pocket monster
>>58546502>Anime FanfictionYou already lost
>>58539624Oshawoot is the second cutest starter ever made, cool middle stage, great final stageSnivy is cool, mid stage is mediocre, but Serperior is one of the best final stages for startersTepig has it rough, it will depend entirely if you like cool monsters and don't mind a bit of ugly
>>58539624I really dislike them. Serperior should have been Grass/Dragon, Emboar should have been Fire/Ground and its shiny colors should have been its normal colors, Samurott should be bipedal and Water/Fight
>>58546530Show us Samurott using both its swords in the games, sagie.
>>58546521>Your OC sucksSamurott sucks harder.
>TPC: Sorry, we like our boy quadrupedal. Four legs good.
>TPC: Sorry, we like our designs shit. Nonsensical weapon usage good.
>>58539624I like themthey’re not the best starters ever, but they’re probably the second best post japan starters imosnivy is my favorite
>>58546481parroting is an admission of defeat
>>58546814Thanks for admitting defeat?
>>58546645>Nonsensical weapon usage good.Good thing it doesn’t apply to Samurott then
>>58546820i'm not the one who parroted
>>58539840....Is gen 8
>>58546595Nice ironic troll opinion
>>58539624Snivy line >>> the rest
>>58539840Gen 5 and Gen 9 are the worse
>>58547131…in Opposite Day>>58546961This
>>58546821Good thing it does apply to Samurott then. >>58546502
All the biped humon starters have made me apprciate samurott, I'm glad it can be just be a weird monster thing, everyone you wants it upright just want a bara daddymon because they're sick perverts.It took gen 9 to give us one starter like that again.
Don't really care about the design, I care more about the metagame.And Serperior is the best.
>>58547431All the biped humon starters have made me hate samurott because it made me see how much wasted potential it could have had to be an actual good design instead of a boring zoo animal
>>58547404The anime isn’t canon, you’re a fool for believing that.Canonically it can use its weapons just fine
>>58547889>seamitarlol!
>>58547131This
>>58539624In retrospect, they were way overhated compared to what they actually were, especially with gen 6 onward. I still don't think they're as good as the first four gens, but they're definitely miles above everything that has come since. It took me around 10 years to start liking the Tepig line.
>>58539624The biggest flops
>>58547637boring zoo animals use swords?
>>58539624They're my favorite starters along with the Johto starters. The most common complaints I hear is that Samurott should've been biped and the Emboar is fat and ugly or whatever. I feel Samurott would've looked boring as an anthro and I always liked boarblins so Emboar appealed to me since day 1.
Gen 8 is the only one with actual bad starters
