What causes this phenomenon?
I don't think anyone enjoyed that post game. There wasn't a lot going on that I can recall. They do in emerald, platinum, and GSC because after you spent all that time training and shit you can, and have a reason, to get better stats and train stuff up. You know, be a trainer. But if there is no post game then you beat the champion and that is it. You played the game. Stop playing now.
>>58546404BW’s postgame is stupid and this postgame is lackluster, what now.
>>58546404Do people want swarms back>They were cool back when mon distribution was tighter and routes were giving you 2-3 new lines, suddenly having access to a bunch of mons you couldn't find before felt like a fun reward.But since Gen 6 the regional dexes are already so big and the "routes" so swamped with mons that you wouldn't notice really.
>ran awayKwab
>>58546404>What causes this phenomenon?Having to invent arbitrary qualities to make my childhood games look good
>>58546489swarms were always garbage
>>58546404oof
the bort fears the drowsy bogeyman
>>58546404>tophoenn>bottomjohto+kanto
>>58546404this is actually better thoughmuch better than having romhack tier encounters in every single route>>58547638You know shit's bad when fucking Joe of all people is calling out Pokemon's lack of postgame.
>>58546404I have never seen anyone claim that XY had a good postgame.
>>58548868It's anti-Unova propaganda. The only good new post-game area you access after beating the E4 was Sinnoh's since unlike the Sevii Islands, it was condensed into one area that's easily navigable and unlike Unova, it isn't cutting the region in halfBut Kalos really thought one new town with no content was acceptable
>>58547638> encouraging DLC slop
>>58546489Sinnoh routes tend to have around 5 - 7 encounters, that's already a lot without the Poke Radar>>58547677>romhack tier encountersstrongly disagree, variety is good and real life can be quite varied
>>58548977did you forget about the Emma sidestory?
>>58548981The games are that empty now that people WANT DLC just so that they actually have the desire to play them. That's how fucking bad the situation is with the newer games. People had been asking for DLC as far back as XY even>>58548989Only reason people call it romhack tier is because they didn't really put much effort into balancing what's accessible and just haphazardly threw shit all over the place like how Eevee is just randomly catchable in the route leading up to Geosenge or the fact Bagon is as early as Route 3
>>58548995No it's the only part of the game I liked. But I also didn't like traversing Lumiose, let alone the fact it was an area I already was familiar with to begin with that it hardly feels like you earned anything for beating the game. If Emma's story was the main game, that would be an infinitely better main game than what was offeredHonest to God it's hard for me to want to play Pokemon games outside of Kanto nowadays because I genuinely hate the league shit because nothing new has ever been added to it to make it more fun than Kanto. Whenever Pokemon branches out to do stuff outside of it (Emma, Gen VII, Isle of Armor, etc.) I actually have fun with these games but having fun for an hour or two and then being miserable for the rest is part of the reason I stopped playing the new games altogether
Ranking each game based on its postgame>SHGSS, Platinum>AEmerald>BB2W2, FRLG, DP>CBW, GSC, XY>DRBY, RS>Don’t remember, probably even worseEverything else
>>58549009They at least make sure they make sense thematically, plus you get different encounter rates in different colored flower patches.My guess is that Route 10 is associated with mystery and history, so Eevee appears thereAlso, Bagon appears on Route 8, not 3.
>>58549025HGSS wins in terms of maingame too if you ask me. It really just has it all.
>>58547677don't want to be one of those "gen 5 bad lol" people but I have this problem with its postgame selection, they make a big deal about how this is a new region with new Pokemon, completely separate from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. This all goes out the window the moment the postgame starts where you'll find areas with plenty of past Pokemon as normal encounters like,>Metapod>Kakuna>Raticate>Fearow>Sandslash>Clefairy>Vulpix>Jigglypuff>Golbat>Venomoth>Golduck>Graveler>Rapidash>Onix>Marowak>Lickitung>Tangela>Kangaskhan>Jynx>Pinsir>Dittoand more where I'll be here until forever to list them all.Also, can't forget mentioning that Poliwag and Goldeen just casually exist in several bodies of water, as if they were there the whole time, but they need a Fishing Rod so they don't exist apparently until you finish the game
>>58549111Gen 5 is when they gave up on worldbuilding.
>>58548989>Sinnoh routes tend to have around 5 - 7 encountersyes but they aren't 5-7 new pokemon at all. Obviously it isn't stricly like that in the newer games either but generally speaking the pace at which you're given access to new lines is much faster than it used to be (to say nothing of the Wild Area, SV, and Legends). So swarms would really have no point.
>>58549093Yeah no other game comes close. You can say kanto feels soulless compared to the original but content is still content and thats always going to be welcomed
>>58549111"unlocking" old Pokemon for the postgame is a fun idea but the selection they give access to is so lame.The routes themselves are also just kind of boring imo.
>>58549111idiot they explain this in the game, study the lore
>>58546404shoving seven mons into one route and giving them all lowish encounter rates was a pain in the ass
>>58547677>You know shit's bad when fucking Joe of all people is calling out Pokemon's lack of postgame.Joe doesn’t have any actual opinions beyond shilling the current game. If ZA had less postgame than XY (which it arguably does, considering XY at least had battle facility streaks and exclusive bosses), he would be ardently defending it against “bad faith trolls” instead.
>>58549206This. I hate it when games have too much content and replayability.
>>58549262yawnie, you very clearly know that is not what was being said.
>>58547619why are you replying to your own thread?
>>58549263But it is what’s being said, sagie.
>>58546404It's a fundamental issue with the way Pokémon is designed. Beating the champion has been merely a formality in basically every Pokémon game since gen 2. The games themselves has little to no story and even when it does have story, it usually doesn't feel conclusive. The only game that really handled it well after gen 2 was gen 5, and even then, unlocking the other half of the region justified the ending way more than beating N and Ghetsis did.Bottom Line: If Pokémon games had actually good stories, they wouldn't need a postgame.
>>58549292I actually dislike the amount of story that the main games have grown to have, or at least the weight of it. It's gone from what was little more than becoming a Pokemon master and turned entirely too complicated. I don't wanna save the world, I don't need to tame a dozen legendaries. Disrupting the local crime syndicate is fine I guess, but I just wanna catch Pokemon, play with them, and kick the league's ass.As far as postgame, epilogues are fine since you can't wrap up every storyline during the main story, maaaaybe a new storyline opening up as a result, but the postgame should mostly be used to unlock content from previous games. Roster, characters, mini games, etc. Postgame is non-canon, by the way.
>>58549536Well sure, but that's just because Game Freak are terrible at writing stories and knowing how to make game content without just throwing overpowered Pokémon at you. >the postgame should mostly be used to unlock content from previous games.I agree; more games in general should offer you more tools to mess around with once the game world doesn't really matter anymore.
>>58549025>SHGSS, BW2>ADPP, BW>BGSC, FRLG, XY, ORAS, SM>CEmerald>CRBY, RS
>>58550996>BW2 that high>BW higher than XYNo.
>>58547638
>>58549144Mmmm they never really cared
>>58549144See>>58549164
>>58550998He's right Yawnie. No amount of seething from you will ever change that.
>>58551018This but with OPs retarded wojak
