>They essentially try and bring Team Flare (a dangerous organisation) back to life, and go around calling themselves the new Team Flare>Grisham still believes in Team Flare's ideology>He also has access to Mega Evolution despite it supposedly being something that is supposed to be gatekept in Kalos for safety reasons>The Kalos police do literally nothing about this>The MC fistbumps them after their rant as if nothing just happened Um... what
>>58552815>>Grisham still believes in Team Flare's ideologyTo keep the world beautiful, yes.>>He also has access to Mega Evolution despite it supposedly being something that is supposed to be gatekept in Kalos for safety reasonsUntil AZ learned how to make them and mass distributed them to stop Ange.>The Kalos police do literally nothing about thisSelling coffee isn't a crime.
>>58552815I mean what do you expect, they literally left the old Team Flare HQ as is despite it being a crime scene. To the point the place still had access to electricity kek. Made close to 0 effort to stop Team Flare despite throwing a few of them in jail
>>58552815They even have the new Team Flare logo on their aprons after the game ends lmaoX2Y2 when bros
While I liked the characters the unwillingness to commit to a villain just made the ZA story shit and the game larps like someone is secretly evil when in reality everyone wants to do the same exact thing to save the city.
>>58552815Pretty sure team flares ideology is fine, whats wrong is the way Lysandre went about it
>>58553012Except Grisham literally says that there are too many people and that's a problem that Team Flare will have to address. There's not really many moral ways of addressing that
>>58553052Wrong
>>58553129How? When we go to Lysandre labs he explains his ideology which is identical to the original Team Flare's. They just didn't agree with him actually using the ultimate weapon. But they leave Team Flare Nouveau as an unresolved plot point. Ultimately they still believe in the ideology and that's the core issue.
>>58552815It’s a shame that illiterate people like OP can somehow write>The Kalos police to literally nothingLike, this person didn’t even play the games.
>>58553398Then explain it instead of acting smug
>>58552815>"neo team flare" is just a coffee business>new team just wants to make the world a better place, even says that lysandre was retarded for trying to nuke civilization>mega evo isnt gatekept. it's so accessible now that you regularly bump into NPCs that do it during the royale>he was underage when team flare got disband. They suggest that anyone with connections with flare is monitored/dont have all their freedoms like cable>they arent bad guys, they hate that they still have a reputation for wanting to drop a nuke, so they just wanted to save the city and clear their name. So they have the same goal as MC but different motives.
>>58552881What would a villain add to the story?
>>58552815He was a child during XY and belives in Team Flare's original motive of helping the poor, not Lysandre's depopulation agenda.
>who is the strongest trainer?>me obviously I beat Urbain's ass>nooooooo stop let me go up the tower anyways>Floette agrees>entire point of finding the Strongest Mega Evolution User was invalidated just because>proceeds to blow my wish on infinite battle royale instead of a trillion dollars and an island in Alohacan someone break this down for me
Team Flair
>>58555608XY was only 5 years ago
>>58555727Yes, and he and Griselle were minors 5 years ago. They're the kids of Team Flare members
I was waiting for the rival to have the Team Flair connection since they have the red gradient hair and mysterious backstory and their favorite cafe was the Flare cafe.Or like the whole thing with Ange going berserk would be because it sensed their latent anger at the world for what happened to team flare. But it all got waved away to be DLC or something.
>>58552815ZA's story is a fucking joke, literal baby game lol
>>58555953Damn, they seem older to only be minors five years ago
>>58552815Criminals are treated like jokes in the Pokemon world, no one gives a fuck if you commit a crime and are okay with you doing whatever unless you try to destroy the world as which point a player characters will put you on your ass
>>58555991>He didn't play the post game>He didn't complete the Infinite Z-A Royale questIt specifically lays out that the rival was in Lumiose trying to find someone connected to their late mom. As it turns out, that person was Jett from Quasartico, who confesses that the mom is her daughter (making her rival's grandma), and the two of them had a falling out years ago over the holo tech mom invented. Mom ended up joining Team Flare and gave the holo tech to them, then at some point between then and XY, died.
>>58555727Legends Z-A should’ve taken ten years minimum after XY, a 5 year gap seems way too short.
>>58555608>>58555727>>58555953he looks about 35
>>58552815His hair color reminds me of Lysander's new color, with the old Team Flare colors.
>>58552815Kalos unironically by large agrees with and sympathizes with Team Flare, and most of all Lysandre. This was true in XY, so it's not surprising this is even more true in LZA.Did you miss the part in XY where Malva was allowed to keep her jobs despite literally being a known member of Team Flare, Sycamore being a Lysandre apologist after the reality of things came out, or your rival telling you about how "it was us against Team Flare... but if you ask me, neither side was right" at Victory Road?
>>58552815Probably (hopefully) a plot point in the DLC
>>58555953>tfw I can't just leave lumiose!
>>58558910Kek
>>58558910Most realistic motivation in the story desu
>>58553052>Except Grisham literally says that there are too many people and that's a problem that Team Flare will have to addressThe point of Gris saying this is to reestablish Lysandre's original arc: that he wanted to spend his wealth healing the world's ills but there are too many people and too many conflicting interests to just throw money at and expect to be fixed. Gris is literally saying they will have to come back around to discuss how to overcome this issue that no one organization has the resources to fix every problem and not get mindbroken like Lys, which is sort of the point of the game. In the end no one group or person has the silver bullet answer, but people from all walks of life and conflicting interests/ideals come together to save the city from what is effectively a natural disaster.
>>58558988>>58558988Thaat sounds kinda woke so I hope that's not what the story is about
>>58552815>>He also has access to Mega Evolution despite it supposedly being something that is supposed to be gatekept in Kalos for safety reasonsthat was 5 years before, anonnow they're being mass produced and handed out to literally everyone with even the slightest bit of skill as a trainer, it's why you see it even from random faceless fuckheads in the royale
>>58552815>He also has access to Mega Evolution despite it supposedly being something that is supposed to be gatekept in Kalos for safety reasonsIt isn't.Everything else is just the usual shit pokemon does of 0 accountability.
>>58559255That's not woke at all.
sounds like someone hasn't been keeping up with the discoursethe very concept of cooperation between different groups is woke now
>>58559489>its not grifting if we do it!
>>58552865We just got our X2Y2 anon
>>58559255You are a low IQ dog and my contempt for you is only abated by the fact that you will waste away your life doing nothing and shitting your pants over nonsense
>>58559541It's close. I'll count it if the DLC has at least Korrina return. 1 more returning character would make it feel like X2Y2. And one direct mention of Serena/Calem
>>58558910So she's stuck in the purgatorial city as well?
>>58552815Yeah it is quite weird how they try and absolve them of responsibility. Yet them seem to know all about Xerneas and Yveltal
>>58559499that's not what grifting is bub
>>58559696>I'll count it if the DLC has at least Korrina returnwas honestly surprised we didnt get that desu
>>58552881Because this is how it works in real life
>>58557035Maybe because if you do something really bad you will have legendaries blown your ass off?
>>58558988So simple yet people fucking miss the point.
>>58563310Its not their fault the game barely explains this