So if I'm getting this right>Zygarde always had Power Construct and its stone>but while Calem ran away from the Flare HQ it moved there to tank the Ultimate Weapon's ray>when Calem goes to Terminus Cave in the postgame Zygarde is already handicapped saving Kalos and Lysandre and is starting to move to other lands to recover, so only a 50% of its body is available>and the Zygarde Cube wasn't found yet so even if you caught it you wouldn't be able to change it to 10% form>in the next two years it has arrived into Alola and moved its five cores into the region's five most capable trainers' houses to help against the ecosystem threat the UBs are (in Ultra, Sina and Dexio retrieve some cells themselves and it teams up with them until it finds the most capable trainer, you)>a few years later its cells are back and fully recovered from absorbing lots of light from the Alola region, seeks Lysandre and makes him pay for its second chance at life by making him its lackey so they can keep an eye on the influence of the other Ultimate Weapon and a new age of trainers >the whole game is Zygarde's trial to find its champion, someone capable of handling its power and mega evolve it to save the world, akin to Delta Episode in ORAS when Zinnia and you had to reignite Rayquaza's full power>upon mega evolving Zygarde's ultimate move is transformed into a pseudoZ-move as well, one with the same power as the strongest Devastating Drake, a similar naming scheme to Light that Burns the Sky and the capacity to run throught Protect and defy nature laws to damage absolutely everything without failI'm not missing anything, this is it, right? God damn Zygarde is the fucking coolest holy shit what a guy
>>58553091>CalemBut yes Zygarde is cool
>>58553091>saves lysandre in the games and makes him his spokesman>just flat out kills him in the animeNot sure which I prefer
>>58553109>waifufagZ-A has a painting with MC Calem. Serena is the rival. Cope.
>>58553091zyggy and all its formes should've only had aura break
>>58553173>waifufagLoud incorrect buzzer. Don’t care about any of the protags especially the XY ones. There’s nothing saying he is the canon protagonist. Cope.
>>58553262>N-NO I'M NOT A WAIFUFAG I JUST GET IN DENIAL WHEN THE MALE MC IS CONFIRMED TO BE CANONOkay, waifufag.
>>58553295>NO I'M NOT A WAIFUFAGCorrect. Cope.
>>58553297>more denial>not even trying to defend his claims anymoreI'm sorry your beloved Serena wasn't allowed to wear the MC cap. Cope.
>>58553305Where does the picture say Calem is the protagonist?
>>/58553309Either you didn't play or even read anything about XY protagonists or are purposely being dumb. Both are acceptable reasons to stop feeding (You) so fuck off
>>58553324Answer the question
>>58553091What’s the timeline for this relative to ORAS? Does ORAS take place before or after XY?
>>58553350We've know Hoenn takes place at same time as gen 1 for a long time buddy
>>58553091I think Taunie/Urbain and the MC are the newest members of the "will live long as fuck club" after being in close proximity to Ange when it fired off its nuke.>>58553350ORAS takes place about 7 years before XY and ZA is another 5 years later.
>>58553487>about 7 years before XYSinnoh and Unova alone are 10 years apart, dumbass
>>58553487I sure hope we’ll see more ORAS references in the DLC. The game was pretty sparse on them, I wanted more info on the relationship between the weather trio and the Kalos trio.
>>58553091Is Zygarde the most "active" box legend? Most of them either sit around doing jackshit before being exploited by the evil team or challenged by the player. Nebby is just along for the ride, and the lizard bikes don't actually act of their own volition until area zero. Meanwhile Zygarde is bouncing between regions and keeping shit it check in the background across multiple games.
>>58553514Care to substantiate your claims, "dumbass"?>>58553529Spoiler alert: There is no relationship.
>>58553555Yeah. The only close one is Fug and it only handles Hoenn shit.
>>58553555Well I’d imagine the literal Order Pokèmon would be more active than creatures who are more forces of nature than anything. That or aliens
>>58553529>the Kalos trioSorry, ran out of lore for Xerneas and Yveltal. We need you to swat down these living extinction events like their no stronger than an ornery Gyarados.Seriously though, an awake and active Yveltal should have left a dead scar on it's route to Lumiose. At least Xerneas was juicing the local alphas.
>>58553555Nice digits. Also, I mentioned in another thread that it feels as if GF wants Zygarde to be a more "global" legendary as opposed to being locked to a region what with it going to the othet side of the planet to learn Z-Moves and push some illegal immigrant UB shit in. Additionally, in both XY and ZA NPCs who know of Zygarde's existence say that Kalos has only 2 legends.
>>58553558The team rocket grunt from gen 2/4 appears in Unova with a kid and tells you he made his family after returning to his home region. That kid isn't 6yo, it's the same NPC used for "Max" (a 7yo) and you have to add time for the pregnancy and his parents knowing each other, falling in love and marrying, too. The teraleak also had a timeline done for BW and it does say BW is roughly ten years after the Sinnoh games, which is right after the Johto ones, all three years after Kanto/Hoenn.And we know XY is roughly at same time as B2W2 which is two years after BW so>Kanto/Hoenn + 3 years (Johto/Sinnoh) + 10 years (Unova) + 2 years (Unova again/Kalos) + 5 years (Kalos again)Z-A is AT THE VERY LEAST 20 years after ORAS.
>>58553344not him but XY main characters change looks depending on which one you pick, the protagonist always has a cap while the rival doesn't. Calm with a cap means Serena can't be the protagonist and vice versa
>>58553309Are you blind?
>>58553618The gap between gen 4 and 5 being 10 years lines up with the Rocket grunt but it means Red and Blue are pushing 30 by Gen 7 which I'm not sure is the intent.
>>58553173I doubt that painting is meant to be an explicit confirmation that Calem is the canon protagonist rather than some concept art of the tower of mastery they dug up considering how averse they've been to canonizing post-Red protagonists
>>58554342>implyingPorygon was created in 1995 a year before RGB (or maybe the same year if you go by Silph's in-game documents) yet SM pokedex says the pokemon was created 20 years ago.Also if GF didn't want Red to age that much they shouldn't have included him in a game two years after another game also two years after a game that happens about a decade after gen 2.
>>58554342>>58554403Gen 6 onwards is another timeline, there's no point trying to line everything up. Red could have been born a few years later or something, Porygon could have been developed earlier, there's no way to know.
>>58554403>Porygon was created in 1995 a year before RGB (or maybe the same year if you go by Silph's in-game documents) yet SM pokedex says the pokemon was created 20 years ago.That's just a meta gag, that's like saying no time passed at all because Wally is still a kid in the Battle Tree.
>>58553091>>58553555Probably the best pokemon in XY and he turn into a megazord.I do wonder if Zygarde lets itself get captured by those who are worthy then leaves them at some point once it's needed.And does that mean Zygarde canonically has friends, unlike mons like Mewtwo who is busy being edgy in a cave?
>>58554364Whatever that art is irl doesn't change it's something canon in-universe now
>>58554497>comparing world building from a literal ingame encyclopedia to a postgame battle facility-only encounter cameo with zero apperances in the storylmaoAnd even if you ignore Porygon>11yo in Kanto games>14yo in Johto games because those are 3 years after Kanto>AT LEAST 24yo in the first Unova game because those are 10 years after Johto and Sinnoh>at least 26yo in the first Kalos game because that's 2 years after Unova's first>Alola is two years after KalosRed is canonically 28yo here, if not older.
>>58554909He's about 20/21 as a reference to RG being released 20 years prior (the anime similarly had a 20th anniversary celebration as part of its plot on its anniversary). They've been VERY particular in keeping things comparable to each other timeline wise, just as they've been extremely careful to avoid setting concrete dates for the events in relation to the real world. Time either moves differently to ours (thus just 10 years can pass in 20 real-life years) or, more probably, Game Freak set Year 1 as RG and everything else follows suit (or gets set so far back in the past prior as to not to interfere with the modern timeline), just as Star Wars records events either Pre or Post battle of Yavin, regardless which canon you decide to follow.
>>58554973>he's [impossible headcanon]Genuinely not reading past that.>he's 11 in gen 1>gen 2 is 3 years later>gen 5 is about 10 years after that>gen 6 is then 2 years after that one>then gen 7 is 2 extra years later11 + 3 + 10 + 2 + 2 ≠ 21
>>58553091I wish i was carried by Complete Zygarde. Or if it was a planet being in his grip.
>>58554973>He's about 20/21that's literally impossible
>>58554973aren't you that french retard that defended gigas too?
>>58554856Games with way more branching paths than any pokemon game are more willing to canonize a specific set of choices so I feel like Pokemon's lack of canonization is a deliberate choice that they wouldn't throw away for a random painting, this feels more like an oversight than a confirmation of a canon protagonist.
>>58554973Let's pretend even for a second you aren't a fucking retard>20/21yo in SM because the 20 anniversary >then he would be 18/19yo in B2W2 and XY, two years before being invited to the Battle Tree>so he would be 16-17yo in BW because it takes place two years before its sequel>GSC is three years after the original games when he was 11yo, so he was only 14yo there, only 2/3 years younger than during the events of BWSo according to you the timegap between these two pics is 2/3 years. In 2/3 years the guy went back to Unova, meet a woman, dated her, married her, got her pregnant and had a son that looks like 7 or 8 years old.Do you understand how utterly retarded you are by now or do I have to tell you with puppets?
>>58555022>started journey at 10 years old>10 in-universe years happen between RG and SM>21 yo RedNah, impossible, if you actually think "real world release + actual year of events", their universe is not ours, thus our reckoning of time's irrelevant to theirs. Hence why they can reference a 20 yo old game's release, by using a 21 year old protag as an easter egg :)
>>58555354>started journey at 10 years oldFirst line and you are already wrong. Please read the post above yours before we get the puppets
>>58555354>started journey at 10 years oldWrong.>10 in-universe years happen between RG and SMAlso wrong.>21 yo RedTherefore: Wrong.Please off yourself.
why does this guy always tries to pass Red as 10? I get it once but he has been corrected before so why is he still trying to force that shit
>>58555569If he were to stop posting things people have debunked before we would never see him again
>>58553529Honestly they seem to be decoupling Kalos and Hoenn if anything. They associated it more with Galar, Alola and Paldea in that order more or less. The only Hoenn mention I remember is the sidequest where the girl said she heard a rumor that AZ went to Hoenn to learn about megasI hope that means that they bury ORAS Hoenn eventually. Or at least deemphasise megas in any future revisits. I like them but it's better if it's Kalos' thing
>>58555946An NPC literally says megaevolution was first discovered in Hoenn and they now say Lucario was the first pokemon to mega evolve in Kalos specifically. ORAS Hoenn is the only Hoenn now
I kind of like that you can sorta-kinda "evolve" zygarde in sun and moon. You can get 10% pretty much right at the revival lab and it's only a few levels below your party, and then you get 50% what, in vast poni canyon, maybe? Kinda hard to remember exactly when, but sounds about right. Before the league.
>>58556135I genuinely think they should have made the screws Zygarde cells again, letting you form the 10% one after you get your keystone or so.Then in the postgame if you have at least 50 cells (which is extremely easy, let's be honest here) Lysandre should have handed you the Zygarde Cube with a radar function (ala Dousing machine) so you are free to hunt down the remaining cells and THEN when you have 100 cells your Zygarde leaves the party, you have the boss battle and if you beat it you get it back plus megastone.
>>58555946That chick, Vinnie and AZ himself said that AZ went to Hoenn to learn how to create Mega Rings, which in XY was something only Gurrkin and Korrina had knowledge of, and then passed that knowledge to Quasartico so they could distribute them and find the strongest ME user to stop Ange.Zygarde went to Alola to develop its own pseudo Z-move in preparation of having to deal with the second Ultimate Weapon.
>>58553555Rayquaza is constantly beating off alien retards trying to invade the planet.
>>58556249H-hot...
>>58556249>once (ORAS)>"constantly"
>>58553309Protagonist wears a hat, the rival doesn't
>>58556196this would have been better than the retarded idolshit we got
>>58555161>picwhat was his problem
>>58556362But what does this have to do with the painting?Anyone can just paint a picture of a hat, it doesn't mean anything.
>>58556107I know, I just thought the comparative lack of of Hoenn mentions compared to the other regions makes me think they're not prioritising it as much. Considering how much they mentioned Kalos in ORAS. Seemed like there was more of a connection there before that they don't seem to care for anymore. Down to the point the Battle Chatelaines were in Hoenn>>58556209Our boy Zygarde is BUSY
>>58554445I thought it's only ORAS
>>58557243So if ZA had a painting of Brendan riding Rayquaza would just say it's just some random paiting and someone made up Brendan being the protagonist?
>>58553091>Zygarde has been working its ass off for 5 years just to fix french people's shit
Zygarde is so awesome
>>58559895>Pokémon X, Pokémon Y and Pokémon Z>Pokémon Continent, Pokémon Sea and Pokémon Mantle>Pokémon Sun, Pokémon Moon and Pokémon Earth>Pokémon Sword, Pokémon Shield and Pokémon Gun
>>58560286Literal fanfic image lmao
>>58558561ORAS is just the one that clarifies that the non-mega timeline is separate.
>>58556249Green Box legends get shit done, I guess.
>>58560286this actually happened lol
>>58560286The picture may or may not be accurate kek
>>58560286regardless of this image's veracity, I rofl'd
>>58553091That's shipping art
>>58562302>baragarde taking care of twinksandrehot
>>58553173It's just reused concept art from XY
>>58563443>b-but it was concept art for XY...And now it's canon art that exists in-universe
>>58563478If it was actually there to show that Calem is the canon MC after nearly 30 years of no canon MCs they would said that the guy who stopped team flare 5 years ago was depicted in the description.
Was never into zygarde before but in this game he's fucking awesome. I usually dont fuck with legendaries but he's always in my party now so I can fire his mega laz0r and oneshot alphas
>>58564166They did it, the only character in the XY group with a hat is the one who stopped Team Flare 5 years ago :^)
>>58564196>The Tower of Mastery stands to the north of Shalour City. Two strange stones were once discovered in this area, which are now thought to have been the first known Mega Stone and Key Stone.Literally nowhere in the description does it even mention a person being in the painting, much less the person who stopped team flare 5 years ago which is an important plot point for the game.
>>58564240>the description doesn't mention the person I can see with my eyes so he's not there! In fact I'm blind and I can't even see the cap that only the guy who stopped Team Flare wore! Ha!Be careful with the copium, anon, you may hurt yourself.
>>58557075team rocket bye-bye a go-go
>>58564276How do you know the painting was made after the events of XY and not before it?
>>58564356Your rival never wears a cap in XY, ever. And the whole group reaches the tower of mastery and learns about megaevolution at same time.>well maybe your rival put a cap on, travelled all the way to shalour city, entered the tower of mastery, left without learning a single thing nor meeting the mega evolution guru and stopped wearing the cap, got its starter and only when the 5 kids reached the city they meet the guru!Again, copium. There's a painting of protagonist!Calem in the tower, deal with it.
>>58564276If the developers wanted to establish a character as the canon protagonist of the game they were making a sequel to, they would have been way more explicit about it than a random painting with a description that doesn't even mention a person being depicted. There are no canon protagonists outside of non-LGPE kanto.
>>58564407>going back to the previous post because his last reply was shut down alreadySorry anon, protagonist!Calem in the tower of mastery is canon, deal with it.
