Hoopa is not uber

They realized giving high offenses to slow frail mixed attackers with double weaknesses isn’t gonna make them good

why are you comparing two mythicals to two VGC/BSS kings?

Man that 50 HP doomed Diancie

Mega Diancie and Hoopa Unbound were pretty uncontroversial strong Pokémon with box legendaries stats that were added later into the generation. Their overwhelming power is limited by their clear flaws which added more to the game. Calyrex Shadow and Ice Rider were created to be the best in their class no matter what and because that they weren't created with drawbacks in mind, their stat usage is extremely efficient and intentionally render even Pokémon that should be in the same class completely useless as result. They show two different perspectives on how to add Pokémon with power rivaling box legendaries later into a generation.

>>58557472
What? No, its Rock typing and mediocre movepool did. Pre-mega it has defenses about on par with Toxapex, a stupendously powerful defensive mon, and its mega has excellent offenses. The fact that it was OU as a mega but not pre-mega is not because of its HP. Beyond that, comparing it to the other three in the image and saying it's weaker at all is silly; Diancie is much, much more like the gen 1-5 "pixies" that were base 100 across the board; gf decided not to do that and moved 50 from its hp and speed to def and spdef, but that's all. Comparing it to those - mew (RU), celebi (RU as of ss), jirachi (RU), manaphy (UU), shaymin, (ZU), and victini (OU as of ss), Diancie's RU is perfectly in-line with expectations. sometimes I wonder if the people here actually think about what they say at all. geez.

Calyrex is like that to sell DLC

>>58557457
Diancie and Hoopa are mythicals, so they weren't meant to be even be used in competitive, let alone designed with competitive in mind.
Calyrex was made specifically to sell the DLC to compfags by being so strong that it's mandatory.

>>58557457
Anomaly in the stats

>>58557505
What does Diancie's movepool even need? Aside from a recovery move.

Rider Calyrex is basically a cover legendary.

>>58557457
As much as I love Hoopa U it's defense is pure u turn bait.

The game has become so offensive it is unwelcoming to a wall breaker.

Diancie is fine, I wish they committed and gave her a good special rock move and a good physical fairy move, in the animation she pulled a sword so maybe there's hope.

As far as Calyrex goes, that pokemon is a mistake, even if some stats are "wasted" it's so optimized for doubles it's ridiculous, I can understand why people complain when they said they are the reason you are forced to buy the DLC to compete, they are busted in doubles.

At least the bears are fun to use to ignore protect but they have a lot of weaknesses that kept them in check.

>>58557464
hoopa and hoopa-unbound are vastly different forms

>>58558050
Dragon Dance