The teraleak revealed we'll be getting Legends Galar in 2027/2028. It also made it clear that the game will Pikmin-like where you command a group of 30 Pokemon.I'm worried that GF might cause the Mario/Zelda effect where the fanbase preferences split since each Legends game will be doing it's own thing gameplay wise. And then the fanbase bickers over the best styleHere's a summary of what we know about Legends Galar, I want to have a real discussion about the Legends series and where it's going in the future, and what it means for Game Freak and the series.>Being prototyped by Game Freak’s Prototype Development Division as a candidate for the next Pokémon Legends title. >It takes place in Galar, 1000 years before the modern era, long before the invention of Poké Balls.>Set in an ancient civilization where humans and Pokémon coexist without formal Trainers, players will befriend Pokémon in the wild, forming groups and alliances to battle against enormous Dynamax Pokémon.>Game’s central theme is “AI × Physics”, focusing on Pokémon behavior, group dynamics, and large-scale environmental interactions. Players explore Galar’s primeval landscapes — vast, untouched territories shaped by nature — and use their Pokémon’s unique abilities to survive and rebuild society.(This is really important since generally their theme for a project is what they try and nail, so the reason they even chose Galar is to likely improve their Pokemon AI and physics system by developing this game, each game is a stepping stone for the next one development-wise)>A key objective in the story is to create the very first Gigamax Poké Ball, using local materials and ancient crafting techniques. Concept art shows early prototypes of sealing stones and primitive containment devices forged by hand, hinting at how Poké Ball technology began.
>>58557818>I'm worried that GF might cause the Mario/Zelda effect where the fanbase preferences split since each Legends game will be doing it's own thing gameplay wise. And then the fanbase bickers over the best styleI wouldn't mind that. I have my preferences for Mario and Zelda as well but they're all at least good and I appreciate a series that can vary its gameplay enough to remain fresh, something Pokémon never even attempted to do before Legends.
>>58557818You do realize the things in the Tera leak have great possibilities to be changed or removed right? Just like that leak about a game they are working on that will have multiple regions. You can’t believe anything until it’s presented to you
>>58557818it's gonna be shit, i can already tell>takes place 1000 years before modern erasay hello to barren wastelands with minimal architecture and lack of any memorable landmarks already specified by "vast, untouched territories">pikmin style gameplay with 30 mons on the screenthis will need to be optimized for displaying them all on screen at once, imagine how shit it's gonna look and play>no formal trainersagain, just as shallow in gameplay variety as pla, where the goal will be to "catch" mons and have them battle dynamax monsi hope gen 10 and legends galar are the only games for the 10th generation so i can just play the gen 10 game and ignore the legends slop this timei really enjoyed za, still amit's addicting, fun, and feels fleshed out even if it's set in a single citycan't say i'm excited for this one though
>>58557841>this will need to be optimized for displaying them all on screen at once, imagine how shit it's gonna look and playSwitch 2 only so they can brute-force it.
>>58557839They most likely going to retaliate like what Sakurai did allegedly> FUCK!! you dare leaking my shit???> BAM, completely change the plan> Here is another motherfucking KANTOOOOOO…. get fucked
>>58557818Legends Galar sounds Kino
>>58557839The thing is the game already had a prototype and the pikmin style gameplay was at the core of it. I doubt the game will be cancelled or reworked, it's already further than Legends Johto got
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>>58557818I just noticed...>Legends Arceus - Gen 4>Legends ZA - Gen 6>Legends Galar - Gen 8Even numbers only... patternbros... are we back?
>>58557892Why do they use Irida for their prototypes
>>58557892>six Pidove against a Gigantamax CoalossalThey got this.>>58557905She's cute.
>>58557892Pikmin like gameplay prototype
>>58557892>>58557921More concepts. Is that Elden Ring environments or am I imagining it?
>>58557921>Pokemon don't have their own movesFUCK
>>58557892>>58557921>>58557926Concept
>>58557892>>58557921>>58557926>>58557937Ancient Gigamax Pokeball concept (pisses my lore brain off that they keep on readjusting the date by which Pokeballs were invented)
>>58557921Looks cool. I hated that they chose Galar but at least they're fixing it
>>58557818Supposed to have started development in mid 2024, and this is exactly as they usually operate. This is all assuming it didn't get delayed due to ZA getting delayed (originally planned for late 2024)
>>58558008They have delayed everything but gen 10 it looks like. There isn't a release period for Legends Galar on that slide, it just goes up to the end of the timeline. I expect gen 10 to be main game in 2026 -> DLC in 2027 -> Legends Galar in 2028 -> DLC in 2029 -> gen 11 in 2030. Dunno about the multi-region game.
GALAR. HONE.
>>58558049That looks awful. And why is there a footballer job mon in 1000s Galar
>>58558049>RabootWhy is there a Pokémon wearing a modern sports jersey a thousand years ago?
>>58558049Can't wait
>>58558064It’s actually ‘foot sheeps bladder’ as football hasn’t been invented yet
>>58558049Comfy.The Middle Ages Pokémon with druids seems cozy
>>58558070>>58558099Someone give these 2 anons the fell for concept art again award
>>58558049Actually looks intresting
>>58558064>>58558066>modern footballers based the sport and their uniforms off the Cinderace lineit’s not hard to explain
>>58557818>where the fanbase preferences split since each Legends game will be doing it's own thing gameplay wise.This literally already happens from game to game where the fandom tears itself in half every new release. Pokemon fans are already more divided than mario or zelda fans when we get the same fucking gameplay every new release.
>>58557943Could be a pyramids sort of deal, different societies all invented the same thing without ever coming in contact.
>>58557943They probably don't see them as Pokeballs yet, just a container to stop giant rampaging DMax/GMax mons from destroying the land
I can already tell there's gonna be a split between people who think tard wrangling an actual pokemon army is cool and people who say it compleatly removes the special bond you have with your favourites
>>58557818>GalarKanto shilling is back on the menu bros
>>58558251Would be cool if they let you use some of the GMax mons and control them like you control Zygarde in the final battle of ZA but with more control of the mon
>>58557892Gmax look so much better without the red glow
>>58557818>the game will Pikmin-like where you command a group of 30 Pokemon.This shit will lag like hell
>>58558251>split between [new thing good] and [new thing bad]Anybody who arbitrarily defends whatever new trash GF shits out is always in the wrong because it doesn't matter what it is "it's growing on me".
>>58558275Obviously its early. But I wonder how they will address using the inevitable new Gmax forms. Will they be only in battle. Do we single out 1 special mon to Gmax and use them instead of our army?
>>58557839>we will never get legends gold and silver and the big pokemon mmo because they got leakedtragic
>>58558322I could see it starting out by attacking the GMax Mon with our army of Pokemon then at a point in the battle you choose a mon to GMax or Dynamax and then the battle transitions to this perspective >>58557937As for new GMaxes we'll probably have to defeat them and have them join our army.
>>58558388Yeah, translating the Xenoblade image the moves are actually Zygarde's moves. It has Thousand Waves, Core Enforcer etc... so it seems they were inspired by the final boss part where we attack a big boss and then use our big Pokemon (Zygarde in ZA, our Gmax of choice in Legends Galar) to deal a blow. So.looks lile they're really building the game around this boss idea, like the rogue megas in ZA
>>58558431They had triple the rogue megas in ZA compared to the noble Pokémon in Arceus so they really like making these action boss fights.
>>58557841>say hello to barren wastelands with minimal architecture and lack of any memorable landmarks already specified by "vast, untouched territories"England 1000 years ago is a very very different place than Hokkaido 150-200 years ago. It wouldnt even make sense since apparently at the same time Kalos was a sophisticated enough society for a guy to build two magical super weapons in a 1000 year period
>Legend of Alola>a billion new Ultra Beasts>Legend of Galar>more gigantamax forms>Legend of Paldea>more paradox mons
>>58557818>Legends of GalarIt's gonna be Steampunk setting
>>58558482It's not, it's going to be a medieval setting as the concept art shows
The autist in me wants it to be 1000 years in the future instead where the energy crisis happened, reverting things to a Fallout wasteland like state. Just so that the Legends games are Past > Present > Future
>>58558049We're not gonna address the unique chef Slowking?
>>58557895Patternbros we are SO back
>>58557818I think the Legends Galar we're gonna get is gonna be very different than the leak. The difference between Legends Ho-oh/Lugia and ZA, to me, indicates that GF had a change of heart as to what to do with the Legends series. When Arceus came out everyone started assuming all legends games will be set in the past and looks like GF did indeed have the same idea, but somewhere down the line something changed...They probably realized this "be the first to do X thing" isn't gonna be very sustainable. I think the only thing that carriered over from Legends Ho-oh/Lugia to ZA is the idea of a new combat system and they decided to market that with the return of megas, a thing they couldn't have done if this was just in Johto. I think Legends Galar might get similar treatment, the general setting might change, but the base idea of a group of pokemon vs 1 might stick around in some shape or form.
>>58557818>It also made it clear that the game will Pikmin-like where you command a group of 30 Pokemon.Sounds like bullshit. But it also sounds awesome. Which again reinforces that it sounds like bullshit. Guess time will tell.
>>58558683Fair assessment anon. I've noticed they often choose the region based on the gameplay style they want too. It's clesr someone on the team really likes the Pikmin style gameplay fighting giant bosses udea, so Galar was a natural fit for that. The people expecting them to put stuff like the Darkest Day or Galar lore in it are misguided. Much like ZA wasn't set during the Kalos War. These are new stories that just happen to take place in specific time periods in the Pokemon universe. That may have lore that expands on stuff if they can fit it in
>>58557937what exactly do they want to take from xenoblade chronicles x
>>58557895JOHTOBROS???? IS OUR RETURN HAPPENING?
I don't see the point of doing galar in the past if it isn't the darkest day focusedthe geography isn't engrained enough to make me care about figuring out where in galar I am. pla you could at least figure out what towns/routes you were in from the modern games, but galar is just wild area and shroom desert
>>58557818I feel like I'm the only one excited for this shit because even the twittards and redditors hate Galar and Dynamax and wanted Legends Unova instead or something but the idea of this game feels genuinely cool to me. Fighting Shadow of the Colossus kaiju Pokemon with your gaggle of guys feels like it'd be unique but also fun, I really appreciate how Game Freak has been experimenting with the gameplay style and think this is genuinely an interesting concept but noooo Galar bad and Gigantamax bad (even though they have the opportunity to make it better) so people hate it
>>58558978It was happening then they cancelled it
>>58558981Since its so far in the past they can probably play with fhe geography more and make it less of a straight line>>58559016I mean can you blame people, Galar and SwSh were quite meh to the point even the biggest fans of the series are cool on it. And it really was not that long ago at all. If Legends Galar drops in 2028 SwSh will only have been 8 years since it was last in the spotlight with the DLC in 2020. Which raises questions of why did you do it so badly the first time considering most of the staff will still be at GF from SwSh etc... and also people wanting their own fave neglected region to get a Legends game e.g. Johto, Hoenn, Alola, Unova etc...The game has potential. But you'll see people more excited when we see more than a prototype and concept art I imagine.
>>58559057*it will have only been 8 years since
>>58558978Hopefully
>>58557818The fanbase is extremely fractured already.GF doesn't give a shit about fracturing it more.After all, you will buy it anyway.
The ZA system will be the foundation for the Pokémon MMO that will dominate gaming for years
>>58557818>hinting at how Poké Ball technology beganIsn’t this like the 5th time GF has tried revealing how Poke Balls were invented?
>>58559390Yes
>>58559390The clarification that Pokémon have the innate ability to shrink from PLA gives them a perennial get out of jail card for whenever they want to set a game further in the past and justify Pokémon not being always out on the field.
>>58558066>>58558064Because in this world humans created their culture by observing wild Pokémon, Pokémon existed before sports. It's likely that bodybuilding originated from watching Machoke and Machamp compete, wrestling from the movements of Hawlucha and Incineroar, and football from Passimian territorial fights.An example in our world is airplanes designed to mimic certain birds, certain martial arts inspired by animal movements, or, as a case of coincidence, the coloring of penguins similar to human formal attire.Another curious example is fencing, which was created millions of years before the first human sword.
>>58557818>I'm worried that GF might cause the Mario/Zelda effect where the fanbase preferences split since each Legends game will be doing it's own thing gameplay wise. And then the fanbase bickers over the best styleWhy are you worried about this? Champions is what we've needed this whole time since it actually gives them more creative license to experiment with gameplay systems without negatively affecting the core competitive battle system, which can now be its own self contained thing.
>>58557937this one was actully for Legends Z-A, it was supposed to represent this
>>58559974>Core Enforcer misses the tower slightly>boom goes a district
>>58559972Because it will make the community infighting and toxicity increase even more>>58559974Source? Because that would make sense.
>>58560505maybe the fact that it literally says フラエッテ (Floette) in that pic and the way the moves are displayed is exactly the same?
>>58560505>>58560613oh and I know you probably can't read katakana but the moves in that Xenoblade X pic are the same as the final Zygarde moves if you translate them
>>58557818i think the largest benefit the legends series has is that it allows for gamefreak to experiment. Nothing in it necessarily has to be a mainstay, but they can try new things out and whatever works can go into future games whether they're the mainline or not. The reason why the Xenoblade style combat wasn't complained about in ZA was because it was a legends game. That wouldn't fly in a gen 10 game.
>>58560613>>58560628Thanks anon, makes sense
>>58557818I hope people realise that the Legends Galar game is a CONCEPT for a legends game, it doesn't mean it's what they're gonna go with, just like how it was gonna be a Legends Johto game but they went with Kalos instead.I still think it's too early to go back to Galar when there has only been 1 generation since Galar (2 once it comes out)
>>58561602>I still think it's too early to go back to Galar when there has only been 1 generation since Galar (2 once it comes out)Yet it'll have been ten years since SWSH's release.
>>58561602It wasn't just a concept since we saw screenshots of a working prototype in the slides. I agree it's too soon but it's clesr Game Freak focus on gameplay ideas and then choose a region to suit that. Their focus for this game is the actual Pokemon's AI/behaviour and physics
>>58560800???>>58561652No it would be 9 years since it would drop in 2028. And even then that's not counting DLC, so that'd be 8 years since it was last in the spotlight
>>58557818I’m fine with legends games being experimental titles. The goal should be implementation of the ideas that work into the main series games. The catching mechanics and real time battling should be in the solo player experience if not by generation 10 then definitely by 11
>>58561692The previous gens legends game is always in dev alongside the new gen. So Gen 10 is when we should see lessons learned from Arceus. Also we're likely not moving away from turnbased
>>58561700We should move away from turn based. Champions can finally now contain the competitive player base so battle gimmicks can become more wacky now. Real time battling just creates a more interactive experience. I mean I liked turn based… like it enough to play Pokémon consistently since generation 5. But times are a changing. I often find myself going into a battle and just putting my switch down to do other things, pressing a button once in a while. Pokémon should be more interactive.
>>58557818I think we'd be lucky to get another legends game. Regardless if you think it's good or bad. You must remember they take away autorunning, berries/globs/smokeballs, and mounts, because they want to "surprise" you.
it's funny how all the worries over za not having turn based battles just disappeared when people actually played the game and loved itgoes to show that pokemon fans really don't play anything besides pokeslop
>>58561714Doubles or Triples is true turn based combat but Shitfreak thinks kids are too dumb to play it despite kiddos playing shit like Final Fantasy decades ago.
>>58561700SV had a lot of Arceus influence, overworld navigation especially felt much more like Arceus than the SwSh wild areas. Arceus team clearly split off eventually and got some additional time to polish things (shiny hunting & better pokemon behaviors on the overworld mainly) but its clear there was overlap
>>58558912Something that IS consistent though is that, of our two games thus far, both take place pretty definitively in their parent game's "third version" timelines, even if the third version never actually existed in LZA's case.Arceus comes out of this with the Diamond and Pearl clans realizing neither Pokemon worshipped is the true Almighty Sinnoh and gives Giratina its redemption so it can later thwart Cyrus in Platinum for doing the same thing,And LZA pretty explicitly takes place in a Z-Version Timeline where Team Flare successfully captures BOTH Xerneas and Yveltal, likely allowing them to outright fire the Ultimate Weapon early, thus necessitating Zygarde's intervention, which led to this version of Lysandre being allowed to survive his would-be gravesite, whether he'd be buried alive or dead as fuck.Galar would actually be another pattern breaker in this regard, because there's no actual significant version differences in the narrative or worldbuilding you can actually touch upon, events play out completely identically aside from who the to-be Minor League Gym Leader is in the Isle of Armor DLC.
>>58561714Turn based is synonymous with Pokemon imo. They just need to make the system not slow af>>58562776There wasn't and we know that because of the teraleak
How are we gonna dynamax if the technology still doesn't exist?
>>58564661Easy retcon saying it was lost and rediscovered in the modern era.
>>58557818Is it so much to ask for wild west Pokemon? Think Pokemon X RDR2. Think Pokemon battles instead of duels, ghost towns inhabited by ghosts, & saloons instead of Pokemon centers.
>>58564732Legends Unova set in that era could be interesting
>>58557892>barren wastelandimagine being excited for this slop
>>58557892Looks like im the bottom right corner it says we have 8 Starlys, 1 Machamp, 1 Pikachu. I wonder how moves will work if we're controlling a group
>>58557818I really hope they change the Galar dex a lot for Legends Galar since I kinda hated it outside of the DLC mons and a few others. It is 1000 years in the past so it would make sense too
>>58564732>>58564870Legends Orre... Now that Masuda has been kicked upstairs maybe they can acknowledge its existence again...
>>58557818I sure can’t wait for underbaked RTS gameplay in everyone’s favorite region Galar featuring a time traveling Leon and his faithful Charizard. Fucking shoot me already.
>>58565065Is Orre even canon? I haven't heard it referenced in any outside media. Was there even a manga?
>>58565011how i see this game is this>catching mons will work like past games nothing different>if they intend on keeping the 30 mon per party you will have 6 leading mons and the 24 mons can be split among your party however you want or at an imposed limit>when sending your leading mon out they will be by themselves and play out like in ZA where they have a moveset of their own however a button press will summon the other mons you assigned to them for a special move or to clear an obstacle like in Pokemon Ranger>if your leading mon gets knocked out the ones allied with it will "retreat"
>pikmin style gameplayso i imagine it'll focus on types instead of monsyou gather enough of one type and that increases power of that type, similar to dynamax/gigantamax levelall mons work together to unleash the max movei just don't see how else they can get this to work without being an extremely bad management sim where you have to constantly swap giving commands between 30 individual mons at a timeanyways, the core gameplay itself is shitty, so i'm not interested in this one at all, regardless of how they implement itpikmin works because it has one of each type and that makes things simpler and fun
>>58565065they could just remake the Orre games and put the remakes under the Legends header>Colosseum becomes Pokemon Legends Shadows>XD becomes Pokemon Legends Shadows 2
>>58565173>>58565414At the very least they're finally being rereleased on Gamecube NSO. I don't want to get my hopes up but it would be good if they added Home compatibility like the gen 1 and 2 games on 3DS.
>>58565011It's honestly gonna be interesting to see what the battle system looks like
