>mega zygarde gets 216 special attack and a 200BP move>miraidon still hits harder than it
>>58563871Does it really? Hard to believe.
>>58563964>252+ SpA Zygarde Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 531-625 (155.7 - 183.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO>252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew in Electric Terrain: 582-686 (170.6 - 201.1%) -- guaranteed OHKOChanged the stats so Zygarde had 216 SpA and 200 BP Dragon Pulse
Electric Terrain + Hadron Engine Boost + Choice Specs is crazy
the future is now, zytards
>>58563990Ah yeah with the item slot, makes sense
>>58563990You should mention miraidon has to tera lol
>>58564193Zygarde has to mega
Perfect Jigarude needs aura break by default as its only ability no swarm change zen mode gimmick
I’m kind of pissed they lowered its physical attack by 30 points for no reason. If they hadn’t, it would have gotten the same stat increase as every other mega (100) while not really becoming much stronger. Having a 808 bst mon is kind of insane but imo breaking the megas give you 100 more points to your bst pattern is worse.
>>58563871Miraidon has the equivalent of 196 special attack, accounting for the boost from its ability.That's before the boost to electric moves from electric terrain, and before any held item.
>>58563964Electric Terrain Boost, Hadron Engine Boost, Choice Specs Boost AND Tera Electric Boost, that's a lot of fucking multipliers or compounds that Miraidon has access to, compared to Zygarde only having raw numbers since it has to give up an item slot AND use its gimmick on going Mega.
>>58563964Modest Zygarde-Mega at level 100 has 584 total special attack.584*200*1.5(STAB) = 175200Modest Miraidon at level 100 has 405 total special attack, multiplied by 1.3333 from Hadron Engine in Electric Terrain. Then its Electric-type moves get another 1.3x boost in Electric Terrain on top of that, tera electric means STAB is 2x, and it gets another 1.5x boost from Choice Specs.405*100*2(STAB)*1.3333(Hadron)*1.3(E-Terrain)*1.5(Specs) = 210594
>>58563990The entire point isn't raw power, the point is being able to hit a type you normally can't hit with a powerful STAB option.
You just wait until abilities are introduced and M.Zyg got special huge power
>>58567196>only gets +70 BST instead of +100>Mawile, Medicham, and Starmie get +140If anything, a detrimental ability seems more likely.
>>58563990>Mega Zygarde does that much damage without an abilityHoly fuck just imagine if it got an Adaptability-type ability on top of that
>>58568746It's gonna be Power Construct because Mega Zygarde requires Zygarde to be in its Complete Form to go mega.
>>58568818Not him but that doesn't make any sense you absolute fucking retard. Power Construct links 10% or 50% to Perfect, but Perfect to Mega is a megaevolution and these can change the ability so there's not a single reason for Mega Zygarde to have power construct except maybe GF wanting to nerf it.
