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Since PokeSpe is about to reach its 30th anniversary in two years; why don't we talk about the series as a whole and the ups and downs of the various arcs and main characters?

For me, the BW2 arc gets a lot of underserve hatred for something that was out of its control. Had it not been on hiatus it would have just been a very middling arc, even with the bittersweet ending.

N's characterizing during the BW1 arc was pretty schizo but great. Still wondering what the hell they were doing with his,
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w-with his what
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>>58579057
Blue should return to her black dress
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>>58579057
Gold, Silver, Green, Sun, X sexo
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>>58579057
Moon was better than Sun and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.
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The ferris wheel chapter and the initial yumejo freak out over it was the most hilarious manga related memories I've ever had.
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>>58579431
>>58579431
>Yumejou
Ferriswheel shippers? Kek
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>>58579057
I read a Yellow collection, it was pretty neat
never read anything else from it, the adaptations seemed goofy; she doesn't even exist so I had no problem reading her story, although I was still nonplussed by how certain characters like the elite four were adapted
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So, I understand hisui never getting an arc but is Z-A getting one?
Z-A can fit pretty well in the timeline
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>>58579957
No, none of the Legends games are getting an adaptation. Hell, the remakes of Diamond, Pearl and Platinum never got an arc.
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>>58579431
How bad was it? All I remember is a few jokes here and there on this board way back when.
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>>58579057
I hate how the stories are no longer interconnected with one another, and the old lore is getting replaced with the new.
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>>58580108
Why would DPP get a remake arc, its *literally* the same plot, nothing new
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>>58580228
Elaborate
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>>58579765
>>58580130
Just ferris wheel shippers being pissed off that N was being accurately depicted as an cold asshole that can't communicate with other people because of Ghestis' manipulation instead of the romantic soft bishounen they imagined in their heads. Him just watching White fall after getting NTR'd was a shock, though in time I think folks chilled out and understood why Kusaka wrote him that way in the end.
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>>58580228
>I hate how the stories are no longer interconnected with one another
Same. Loved it when RBGY interacted with GSC, or how the Hoenn group saved RGBY. Shit was Cinematic.
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>>58579057
The DPP arc with Diamond, Pearl and Platnium was, in hindsight, terrible. Never knew why. Just didn’t like it. Tried many times to reread it, and I always feel like it’s a chore.
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>>58580427
>think folks chilled out and understood why Kusaka wrote him that way in the end
What was the reason?
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>>58580329
All the other remakes got arcs. I just assume the way would happen with DPP
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>>58579057
I don’t understand the hate in Yellow
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>>58579057
>Still wondering what the hell they were doing with his,
WITH HIS WHAT, OP? WITH HIS WHAT?
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>>58579057
>why don't we talk about the main characters?
White needs to get Blacked
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>>58580329
BDSP is the only remake that didn't get a PokeSpe adaptation so far, which is just as well. That dogshit deserves nothing except falling into oblivion.
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>>58579057
Previous thread here: >>58509163
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>>58582827
But I wanted to see Diamon, Pearl and Platinum again
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>>58582841
>trying to make this into a general again
So how long until it dies?
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>>58582857
Yeah, I get it. You know what? I'll take back what I said, maybe a PokeSpe adaptation would have been good if only to save that remake just a little bit from being an absolute trash fire
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>>58582910
So, what was her problem
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>>58582841
>Pokespe general
Based
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>>58582990
Being the focus of a overarching plotline that got abandoned by DP. It's almost all but confirmed by Kusaka at this point. Her obsession with Silver being reunited with Giovanni and her rescuing Archie don't add up with her being a mere Galactic Admin.
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>>58579057
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>>58582889
It's just a link if anyone wants to continue discussions, because the last thread was so recent before it got archived. I don't expect a Pokespe general to happen since /vp/ doesn't care enough about any of the mangas.
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>>58583020
What was the original plan?
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>>58584064
Nobody really knows, but it's clear they were setting something up with her before Kusaka gave up. The main fan theory is that she's immortal (how else did she survive being in the rift of in time) but DP releasing meant her aims may have overlapped with Cyrus.
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>>58582841
Emerald is so overhated i know that he is a bad character but the arc is a perfect conclusion of the "classic" PokeSpe, not sayng that later arcs are bad but still
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Will start my collection next month
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>>58584401
It should have been Wally as the main character.
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>>58584242
Hope that plot point comes back.
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>>58579057
Kusaka...where is the legends manga?

I want to see Dia in the Hisui.
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>>58585322
Legends won't be adapted.
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>>58584401
That's the thing, most people like the conclusion of the Emerald arc. But before the conclusion, the whole beginning until the middle point of the arc didn't have any of the previous main characters in it, it was just Emerald annoying the Frontier Brains and most readers hated that part. (Crystal only cameos a bit at first and Ruby/Sapphire only show up halfway through the arc.) So all this affects perception of the arc when taken together as a whole and not just the climax/ending.
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>No Legends manga
>X's Chesnaught will never Mega
Damn......
If remakes are dead too, then returning characters are a thing of the past.
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>>58586335
I hope remakes aren’t dead. LGFR, HGSS, ORAS arcs were absolutely kino. I still think the DPP remake never got made because nothing new was added.
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>>58586376
LGFR yes but HGSS and ORAS are arguably the worst arcs
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>>58579057
There was no saving BW2. Even if it wasn’t in hiatus for years. It was just a terrible story with Blake being an awful MC. The FMC was decent but even she couldn’t save her arc.
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>>58586376
>LGFR
More like ESL.
>>58586389
FRLG was shit too. All the remake arcs sucked, ended up being either forgettable or controversial and Kusaka didn't even like writing them.
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>>58586673
>FRLG was shit too
Nah, fuck you. That shit was Kino
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>>58579057
I wish they still continued the tradition of old MCs and FMCS helping the new mcs. Having Platnium help her younger sister moon would have been great.
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>>58586287
The problem was that Emerald chapter was actually meant to be the Battle Frontier chapter and be a standalone until the editor stepped in to force Kusaka and Yamamoto to rewrite it to be part of an interconnected story with the other Gen 3 chapters. The editor made the right move in hindsight but it still leaves the first half of the Emerald chapter feeling very underwhelming and stakeless until Guile shows up.
>>58586376
They're old.
>>58586376
>HGSS
>ORAS
No.
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>>58587276
>Guile
Still the best villain so far
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>>58586335
I want to see Y again. :'(
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>why don't we talk about the series as a whole and the ups and downs of the various arcs
Pokespe works best when adapting games that lack stories or have barebone story. Games with an actual story hinders and fucks over the manga/mangaka because now they're constraint on what to do.
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>>58581738
BDSP didn't have significant new content
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Nintendo and Gamefreak unironically not letting Kusaka and Yamamoto be more mature and actually killing of some of the villains because they're afraid it will ruin the series to their fans is dumb as fuck. This shit is even more egregious, when Nintendo has to step forward and retcon something in the manga. Like in the ending of X & Y where Lysandre died, but later, "somehow" survived in the volume release or something.
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>>58580999
Why was Platinum written to be a Mary Sue? Never understood why she was so good. It felt like everything Sapphire did was one-upped just because.
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>>58588098
As a Platinum hater who's legit surprised to see so many posts in this thread and the last actually criticizing her and the DPP arcs ("so many" = more than zero), I really think Kusaka just has a thing for rich girls and immediately fell in love with her. Like he wrote her as his ideal girl/character and so made sure she's always portrayed as the best at literally everything and that the focus is on her at all times.

I don't really have any evidence of this besides stuff like making Misty a rich girl out of fucking nowhere, back when she was presented as a viable love interest for Red, and also portraying Erika similarly (though Erika at least is already kinda like that in the games). It just seems to be a trope he really enjoys.

And I'm not saying that to imply KUSAKA WANTS TO FUCK PLATINUM or anything crazy, just that I suspect he wrote her as like his ideal girl if he were about 11/12.
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>>58588128
I'll believe it. Isn't Platinum the only girl to have shoujo bubbles? I could have sworn the last time I read it, Diamond saw her through that lense
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>>58588149
I don't know if she was the only girl in the entire manga, but I think someone posted the shoujo bubbles panel in the last thread so you're right, that did happen.
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>>58588098
Same. Never understood why she was better than Red/Sapphire in battling. You would think having someone having The Battler/Conqueror meant anything.
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>>58583145
You should frequent the May general more often, there are some PokéSpe anons there.
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>>58588097
His death was greatly exaggerated. He died, but was lucky to survive.
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>>58588149
No, Sapphire (and White, I think) get them as well.
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>>58588097
X and Y really was the last great arc.
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>>58588274
Best pairing too. Fight me.
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>>58588274
Nobody cares about XY. Nobody cares about anything after BW. It's not even about the quality, there's just nobody left reading Pokespe.

Source: Can't find ANY serious prolonged discussion of any arc past BW because nobody cares. I never even see shippers, not even the fucking shippers care.
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How do I get more of PokeSpe Rose.
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>>58588097
>wanting to kill off villains when GameFreak will revive them randomly and you have to explain how they got revived by the dragonballs or some other shit
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>>58588366
I thought there’s no shippers because X and Y are already dating.
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>>58588441
That only happened in Hoenn.
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i read for the pokeboys. Mato crafted the perfect Red and his FRLG redesign cannot compare. Yamamoto, however, improved a lot later for other boys.

The amount of gallons I lost for HGSS Gold.
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This is canon.

Source: I made it the fuck up
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I stopped reading after XY/ORAS. How have the Gen 7/8/9 arcs been?
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>>58588560
Sun and Moon were pretty decent. Shame we never got the sequels
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Z-A will get an adaptation, right? We will see X and Y again?
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>>58588593
I hope so, it's just a 5-year time skip after XY
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>>58588619
Oh boy, wonder how the other mcs age are now.
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>>58588294
>Fight me.
I will, because this is the best pairing. (But X and Y are a close second)
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I once read that one of the artists made a doodle of Sabrina in a bikini for a request at an event. If that's true, does anyone have it?
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>>58588366
Not really, Sun and Moon shipping is the biggest of the series after RxS
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>>58588149
>>58588260
I went on a shoujo bubble hunt, got a bit lazy but I'll post more examples.

Here's some bubbles here in RS from the perspective of some traumatized 6 year olds. But Ruby and Sapphire probably didn't know what love was in the adult sense back then, just that they cared about each other.
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>>58589591
These might count as bubbles, maybe not, either way Sapphire's head is in the clouds.

On the topic of subtext though, the harsh light effect on Ruby's face probably isn't literal/physical as much as it represents a big internal realization. But also the same effect had been used earlier (volume 18?) when Ruby first encounters "true beauty" when he sees Wallace's contest performance with his Pokemon, and has no idea how Wallace reached such a skill level (the answer is Winona). Anyway I don't remember the light effect showing up anywhere else earlier but I could be mistaken.
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>>58589625
Some actual shoujo bubbles here. Sapphire's confession goes on for so long, imagine listening to her accent for 15 minutes straight.
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>>58589645
Might not count as shoujo bubbles but have 2 pages of Ruby having Sapphire related thoughts. These pages are uniquely formatted, and thought bubbles usually have hard outlines and don't look all dreamy like this. It's all probably vague on purpose so Ruby's feelings are up to more interpretation, since the question on the reader's mind at this point is
>if Ruby actually cared about Sapphire, why did he betray her and lock her in a car?
The answer is obvious by now but some people actually don't understand what happened here. This part is straightforward in hindsight, the classic RS ending nonsense is what starts happening afterwards.
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>>58589670
Finally some shoujo bubbles from Ruby. He's impressed by Sapphire's ability to jump 521 times so he falls in love with her. Or maybe it's the hot spring thing.

But more seriously, subtext like shoujo bubbles mean a lot more when it comes to secretive characters like Ruby. This page and the bubbles hint at his true feelings, despite all his strange and seemingly contradictory actions afterwards.
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>>58589692
As for this one with White, I wouldn't call these shoujo bubbles they're more like just sparkles.

But their purpose is similar, because it shows Black suddenly seeing White in a new light. They hadn't thought much of each other at this point and it really is just a business relationship. But White telling Black about her dream catches his attention, because up until now he's been the only character screaming about his own dream. Black's obsession with his goal had even made him act inconsiderate to people in the past (Cheren, Bianca, Prof Juniper). But meeting White who has her own goals yet manages to be a considerate person (paying for Black's debt wothout him asking) makes Black rethink his actions, while also making him respect her. That's why this is the first time he calls her "boss"

Nothing romantic yet, but to me the way Black seems to get reluctantly humbled is the first time he looks more complicated and interesting than just being Red but autistic.
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I just know Kusaka is going to have Blake's Dewott evolve into a hisuian Samurott when he gets the chance.
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>>58589742
I'm hoping he'll appear in the SV DLC and get some character development.
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>>58589789
Same
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Gold getting the last laugh on being the only Johto dexholder without a Mega after seeing whar Mega Feraligatr looks like
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>>58588505
She’s a minor
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>>58590855
Yellow is currently 29
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>>58590864
How can she be 29 when not a lot of time passes. Between Emerald and X and Y.
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>>58590898
In the first storytime we made some calculations with how DP is 2 years after Emerald and Platinum was some months after it and so on, i dont have the exact numbers but it was something like 28/29 yo
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>>58590864
>29
>Still a virgin
Red ain't never going hit that, will he?
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>>58585836
He ever explained why or just too much work?

Pokemon Ranger got a manga, but Legends don't? So unfair.
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>>58591271
I don't think he likes doing the side stuff, not to mention that he probably doesn't want the Pokespe manga to lag behind like last time
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>>58591269
>>Still a virgin
you dont know that
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>>58579057
what is up with the editor of Pokemon Adventures? ORAS volume 3 was slated for release months ago and now it's pending. god this series has the worst releases dating back to Black and White due to holding other series hostage due to mini volumes.
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>>58591342
Nintendo/Gamefreak micromanaging things now
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>>58591269
>Red ain't never going hit that, will he?
No need, Lance already did
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>>58591347
good god we should have gotten through ORAS and Sun/Moon manga for English. it has been a year since the last release! I thought it was on Viz Media's side of business, but waiting for 3,4,6 months or a year is just ridiculous. everything went to shit by the time Gen five rolled in.
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>>58579057
Volume 65 when?
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>>58591545
never
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>>58591382
Yellow would never
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>>58589591
Still can't believe these two are the only canonical couples of the franchise
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>>58592783
I don’t care what Kusaka, Masuda, or anyone says these two are fucking and you can’t convince me otherwise
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>>58592783
Canon sexo
Ruby dumping loads inside Sapphire everyday
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>>58588505
>Go to e-hentai thinking this is some h-doujin
>Doesn’t exist
All right you fuck. Where’d you get this.
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>>58590446
Whew I would love to see that. Sorry Silver you lost this one.

>>58588438
Oh my

>>58593176
NTA but sad Yellow gets the mind going.
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>>58593275
Link to sad yellow
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>yellow hasn't been seen in two decades
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>>58593396
She will make a comeback soon. Just trust the plan
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>>58593396
What about her cameo in DPPT?
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>>58593446
>her cameo
Everyone cameos in DPPT.
>>58591342
Kusaka and Yamamoto have been trying to get their pitch for the ORAS arc's epilogue approved for years. But their supervisor keeps either rejecting them or taking too long to approve things. Yamamoto has been talking about this on Twitter. So these delays on the Japanese side end up affecting releases worldwide, especially the Viz English versions.
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>>58593275
The hell is going on in that image
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>>58593528
>Kusaka and Yamamoto have been trying to get their pitch for the ORAS arc's epilogue approved for years
What's the Epilogue about to be rejected so many times?
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Platinum and HGSS were rushed to death thanks to the timing of BW. Also Sird just randomly vanished from the story.
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>>58593834
You need to understand. The Wii U wasn't selling as good; they needed to rush Pokémon Game to make up the loss.
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>>58593783
Nobody knows, everyone can only theorize about it.

I think the rest of the ORAS arc was heavily meddled with by executives, which played a big part in why it was so shit and everyone hated it. Kusaka banished himself from Twitter around that time too (2017). Which raises the idea that maybe Kusaka is trying to redeem ORAS by writing an epilogue that actually aligns with the story he wants to tell. Many fans speculate the epilogue might be an attempt to close out the story of Ruby and Sapphire's relationship in a better way more aligned with what was established in earlier arcs (RS/E). Since if the epilogue was just going to be about something inane like Volcanion, Magearna or an Alolan character cameo leading into the SM arc, there would be no real reason for the draft to be rejected.

Either way people also speculate Kusaka's superiors hate his ideas for the epilogue, causing creative differences and then delays if Kusaka refuses to back down.

That's just a headcanon though.
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>>58593855
did Japan get full volumes of Sun and Moon yet?
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>>58593855
I seriously hate those outfits. what was GameFreak thinking
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>>58593862
They don’t know what the fuck they’re doing. They’re ruining Pokespe with their excessive micromanaging and the fandom has never recovered.
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>>58593861
No, as long as ORAS doesn't get an ending, SM will never be able to start (in terms of main completed continuity). PokeSpe is literally stuck at Volume 64 until Volume 65 comes out. Everything after the ORAS arc (and some parts of the ORAS arc itself) is currently stuck in """""mini-volume""""" hell just like picrel.

https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Adventures_volume_65
>The release date for this volume was delayed multiple times. It was initially scheduled to release on October 27, 2023, but was subsequently delayed to January 26, 2024, March 28, 2024, May 28, 2024, September 27, 2024, December 27, 2024, and finally December 26, 2025. The latter date, though, seems to be a placeholder since Satoshi Yamamoto stated the actual release date is yet to be confirmed.
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>>58593870
Even better, the mini-volumes are never called "mini-volumes" on the cover, intentionally tricking ignorant buyers into thinking they're getting the full volumes and the final versions of the story.

Then whenever people get confused and ask Viz's Twitter why they're suddenly releasing what looks like the same PokeSpe story arc again but with different cover art, they never get an official response.
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So, has there been any official reason why Yellow hasn't appeared for a long time? People say because she's not based on game characters, but Emerald is also not based on game characters, but he still showed up in ORAS
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>>58594174
>So, has there been any official reason why Yellow hasn't appeared for a long time?
Not that I know of. Maybe Kusaka just wants us to forget about her? At this point, I don't know how he could make her (or any of the Gen 1 protags for that matter) relevant anyway. An LGPE arc would have been a good opportunity, but that didn't happen, so...
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>>58594203
>Not that I know of. Maybe Kusaka just wants us to forget about her?
God I hope not.

>At this point, I don't know how he could make her (or any of the Gen 1 protags for that matter) relevant anyway
I don't even want them to be relevant, i know hoping for another GSC climatic battle are slim to none but having a cameo here or there would be more than enough for me. Like Blain and Green in X and Y. Or Red and Blue in ORAS

>An LGPE arc would have been a good opportunity, but that didn't happen, so
LGPE would have been a way to see gen 1 protags and what they're doing. Shame it never came to pass. Hopefully Kusaka changes his mind
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With Winter Comiket fast approaching, you guys think we’ll see any good doujin of pokemonspe?
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The best doujins probably came out years ago, back when both the source material and its fanbase were at its peak. Just don't know whether they're even made available online.
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Yuri series now.
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>>58594789
Shipping Nemona with the female SV protagonist is an actual BlackRock psyop. All PokeSpe romances with any canon basis were all straight before SV. Kusaka has always avoided depicting blatant gay shit until the SV era, where Nemona/Juliana suddenly gets its own official novel and music video
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/After_the_Rain_With_You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shZyg5VFI1Y
and now a manga version of the relationship without even any subtlety.

It's just pozzed cringe propaganda promoted by shills, no different from the time TPC tried to make Kusaka create a black (race) dexholder with Marvin in SwSh.
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I'm not even reading the SV arc and I just want to see Scarlet break
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>>58594822
Cope.
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>>58594822
>>58594914
Have you retards never heard of yuribaiting, or
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>>58594927
>never heard of (weeb term)
It's still homosexual propaganda no matter what you call it or whether anything gets "confirmed" in the end. Especially when the Pokemon company and everything in its franchise had always avoided homo elements until around gen 5/BlackRock money. Also either stop typing like a woman or go back to Tumblr.
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>>58595025
You don't know how a woman types and evidently have never talked with one. Take your fucking meds, lest the evil psyoping faggots keep living rent-free in your weak little mind.
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>>58594789
Inferior to Agency/LaverreKino I’m afraid
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>>58595316
those are not their manga personalities in the slightest
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>>58595316
I mean, agencyshipping is the best ship in the series. It's not a fair match up.
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>>58595337
>expecting X/Y shippers to understand the characters personalities
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Why did he end XY arc like that?
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>>58594494
What I want to know if they still write actually doujin light novels about this series.
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>>58593275
Is she getting cuckquean?
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>>58594174
I think it's more just they couldn't find a way to slot her in existing stories. Yellow's motivations to get involved have always been extremely personal
>Find Red, who taught her about Pokemon (Y)
>Confirm Lugia's Existence (GSC)
>Help Silver find his father (FRLG)
There's no reason to involve her in big crazy battles in other regions especially the ones outside Poke-Japan. She's at home in Viridian, she wouldn't be Oak's first choice to send for back up.
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I'm 100% sure that May's alt in Pokemon Master is a Sapphire reference
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Ruby is by far the most infuriating dexholder, but I still like him anyway
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>>58589700
Black having a hormonal interest in girls that routinely conflicts with his battle autism would have made him an actually interesting character
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>>58596654
Is that not what we got? But instead of a hormonal interest it was more a duty to White as her employee and later a duty to the Unova region as the hero or truth
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>>58596615
I believe it, the games have been referencing the manga for a while now
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Blue/Green (the Female) would totally be a titty streamer
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>>58598189
>the games have been referencing the manga for a while now
Have they? What are other examples?
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One of the biggest downers I can think of for the manga is that Gamefreak/Nintendo refuse to tell Kusaka about future events of the games/series. Like in the Hoenn arc and the Emerald arc are the biggest examples of this. In the end, the leaders of Team Aqua and Team Magma, and that's fine and good, until ORAS is made and somehow, Kusaka has to bring them back, somehow.

It detracts from the story
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>>58596628
The only good part about him is the part that looks after Sapphire, without that he comes off as unredeemable
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>>58599473
>that many votes for Yellow
Huh. Also,
>"Red's lover (?)"
They were really playing into this ship, weren't they?
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>>58599486
Red and Yellow are canonically lovers.
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>>58599495
And I canonically had sex your mom last night
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>>58599486
>They were really playing into this ship
What other ship was there? Green and Blue had no romantic moments, Gold, Silver and Crystal were friends and nothing more. Ruby and Sapphire were the only ones at the time with feelings for each other.

Makes me wonder how a 2025 poll would be like.
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>>58594822
Yikes. But at the same time I'm not surprised. I'll just stick to vintage, like every other sane person does.
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I have not forgotten the agony Yancy was put through. She deserves better.
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>>58598538
She is a glowie now
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>>58599473
wonder how would a popularity poll be now
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>>58599495
No, it's canonically a one-sided crush on Yellow's part. There's an official Pokespe Encyclopedia book from 2017 with a relationship chart, and the relationship between Red and Yellow is shown to be a one-sided crush. Depending on how you read the chart (since it's not organized that well) Red either just sees Yellow as a friend or he doesn't even remember she exists. But any sane person who has actually read the series wouldn't need a chart to realize Red/Yellow is basically defined by its unrequited nature.

The only confirmed romances in the chart (with red lines representing "love") that aren't one-sided are either Ruby/Sapphire or background character married couples, some who already had children together (with yellow lines representing family ties).
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>>58600072
I wonder if anyone from Gen 1-3 will get any votes from the zoomers.
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>>58600118
>Leo and Hugh's sister are canon
>Black and White are not
This is bogus man
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>>58600247
In this chart, lines with arrows generally mean the relationship is one-way.

For example, the darker green lines are for "mentor+trainee" relationships, so green arrows show which character is the mentor and which is the trainee, and that the dynamic can't be reversed. So Green (boy) is a mentor to Yellow, but Yellow is not a mentor to Green.

Unbroken lines without arrows represent a mutual relationship that equally goes both ways. For example the darker blue lines represent friendship. So Crystal is mutual friends with Eusine. She's also in a this weird pie chart circle with Gold and Silver with the same color blue outlines, meaning the Johto Dexholders are all mutual friends with each other.

Now again the bright red lines represent "love" in a romantic sense. Nearly all the red lines in the chart are arrows, so they all represent one-sided crushes. So Leo is romantically interested in Hugh's sister, but she doesn't feel the same way. Similarly both Yellow and Misty have crushes on Red, but he doesn't reciprocate their feelings. The only unbroken red line in the chart is the border connecting Ruby and Sapphire, representing their mutual romantic feelings for each other.
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>>58600809
I get it, I was only being half-serious
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>>58600118
I like the original designs of the dexholders' parents. Platina's mom is very cute.
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>>58596628
His many flaws is what makes him an interesting character
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>>58600118
>>58600118
Twenty years of blueballing us, at least they can confirm or deny it if Red and Yellow are together
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>>58596628
At the beginning of R/S I really hated him, I found him very annoying, but certainly as the story developed I started to like him a lot
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>>58601903
He had the best character development out of all the MCs
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>>58595337
That is Black and White's personalities
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>>58596801
>Is that not what we got?
No

>But instead of a hormonal interest it was more a duty to White as her employee
Still no
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>>58581446
You can’t fix bad boys and you’re insane if you think you can.
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>>58599192
To be fair, R/S/E ended with Archie and Maxie repenting. It's not GF/Nintendo's fault Kusaka killed them off to begin with.
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>>58602777
They could have had different leaders to help Kusaka a bit.
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>>58601218
Source?
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>>58603256
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>>58603579
I remember this one. Why was it cancelled again?
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yellow is unironically the best addition to pokémon in any capacity and it's criminal that she's relegated to just pokespe and forgotten about.
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>>58603754
Dude was a gook and had to join the military, because gookland has a two year mandatory conscription
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>>58603768
Funny (and sad) how Green (the girl) was upgraded from just being in concept art to a player character in FRLG and as an established character in LGPE and in the Evolutions short and even as a cameo in spin-offs like Unite, but Yellow did not remotely get the same.
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>>58588570
What about Galar and Paldea? Have those been good~ish
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>>58603900
Dunno about Paldea but Galar was okay. It tried to salvage the retarded story of SwSh by introducing Swordward and Shielbert before Eternatus, and then going UM ACTUALLY THESE SECRET FILES SAID GALAR WOULD LOSE ENERGY SOONER THAN 1000 YEARS ROSE WAS ONTO SOMETHING but at the end of the day it was still retarded.
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>Pokemon leaks shows that the ash anime producers sank any and all attempts to make/create pokemon special anime adaptation
But why though?
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>>58596408
So unless Red or one of her friends gets in danger, she's in hibernation?
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Yellowbros, I know it's hard but we have to let her go, she's not coming back
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>>58603954
Source?
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>>58604505
No, I still think she can comeback.
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>>58604934
Nah it's over. Besides there's nothing wrong with going into dexholder retirement, doesn't modern Spe suck anyway? Yellow will be happier out there, let go of your consoomer instincts and set her free.
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Wish this series had an anthology, wouldn’t mind seeing the old protagonists and see how they’re doing.
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>>58599546
You won't be missing too much by sticking to vintage anyway. Historically the gen 1-3 sagas of the manga and the characters in them were always the most popular worldwide. The gen 4 arcs usually get a pass too but gen 5 is where you see a big cutoff.
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SwSh was pretty good all thing considered, Schily was top cutie
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Green = male
Blue = female
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>>58605992
People do know she’s a tomboy right? And that she was told to keep her identical secret right? And that she never once thought she was a boy
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I believe the theory about Steven being blind
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>>58606027
I know the "original" original Japanese names are established this way and I respect those who prefer it but Red had always been strongly associated with Charizard and his rival with the counter Blastoise and the third with the remainder Venusaur so on a personal level the rival being Blue Oak and the girl being Green always felt thematically and aesthetically more fitting.
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>>58606244
If TPC started appealing directly to the LGBT crowd and Yellow was brought back one way or another, it would likely be a Bridget situation
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>>58593275
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/32556380

Probably not spoonfeeding at this point. Very funny page to post without context.
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>>58606460
>2013
I feel so old
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i like yellow
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>>58604932
The anime board meeting minutes were all fabricated apart from Matsumoto and Otani having a brutal falling out being one of the reasons they wanted to cut Ash.



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