how do you feel about some megas being a pre-evolution?
I don't understand the 4 ears thing at all
depends on the mega, all of these are inoffensive at worst except feraligatr
>>58584499Fine, I guess. I think Feraligatr and Chimecho are pushing it. Stuff like Gengar having somewhat more of a Haunter shape or Metagross having a Metang spike on its chin are neat. Feraligatr and Chimecho basically wearing their prevos as props is dumb.
wish they did it with blastoise or greninja
>>58584499>the entire design being armor that looks like a first stage is comparable to having two tails that look vaguely similar to a middle stage
Some of these are a stretch. IMO the only ones that clearly call back to a pre-evolution are both Raichus, Dragonite, Feraligatr, Chimecho.
>>58584544They were going to but pussied out
>>58584499the fuck is chesnaught here for
Beta Mega Blastoise is one of the few cases where I wished they kept the prevo aspects returning with the Mega, because it looks so much cooler than Mega Blastoise's general blandness.>>58584499>Mega Charizard YZard Y does it so subtly and well you barely notice.>Mega ChesnaughtWhat did Mega Chesnaught even has that's explicitly from it's prevos? The spiky triangle crown was already part of Chesnaught's design.In general the older Megas did this far better but it boosted their already great designs without taking away from them.>Mega DragoniteContinuing from my last point, Mega Dragonite takes away from Dragonite to make it look like Dragonair, because Dragonairfags are a bunch of autistic spiteful subhumans, compare it to Mega Ampharos, which had it's wooly mane return without taking away from the design.>Mega FeraligatrMega Feraligatr feels like it was made out of spite by someone who hates Feraligatr and wanted to ruin the design with a dogshit gimmick that just does not work on purpose, I don't understand how this scheisse was approved at all.>Mega ChimechoMega Chimecho is a mixed bag, it's not as insulting as the previous 2 instances, and despite the Mega having a Chingling frame, it's still Chimecho with a cool reverberation gimmick by having multiple small copies of itself that together with the metal frame to create pure ear rape, at least the idea behind it is cute and makes sense.>Mega Raichu X and YCompletely screws over Raichu to suck up to Pikachu, both look like they were made with AI too, they look better in 3D, but they're still such awful fucking designs.>>58584678I love the mustache, but I prefer the version that brought back the wavy tail too.
We should be lucky we didn’t get Mega Flygon since to make it stand out from all the fan designs, they would’ve just made Mega Flygon am ugly giant Trapinch
>>58584689fucked up my post due to splitting the points into sections, but the ladder part of talking about older Megas doing the callback to prevos thing under Mega Chesnaught was intended to be a complaint about Mega Dragonite. I just woke up so my brain isn't working.
>>58584686A breath of fresh air between the rest of the slop here
>>58584544mega greninja is so good though
>>58584499I think it’s a good cohesive design decision
>>58584499>Swampert>ChesnaughtEven Charizard is pushing it imo. The rest of these range from mid to garbage. It tends to be worse more often than not.
>>58584689>Mega Raichu X and Y>to suck up to Pikachu3 words: Eternal; Flower; Floette.
>>58584499Please tell me they didn’t abandon Sugi art in favor of these dogshit renders. This comp looks so fucking terrible split between two art styles
>>58584949they were already just tracing the 3D models for Paldea mons, this is how it's going to be from now on
>>58585015Why on earth even bother with such an easily disproven lie? Has being raised on the internet just put you in the habit of saying whatever comes to mind and pretending it’s real?
>>58584499I like it
>>58585145Spidops is an exception, but there's a lot of cases where it's clearly a true statement
I believe Mega Flygon Redemption is near.Fanart : https://www.pinterest.com/pin/7318418141411462/
>>58584499>Swampert>Zard>Manectric>Chesnaughthow
>>58585145You do realise that's an exact pose the model does, right anon?
>>58585165We know the DLC Mega roster, Gamefreak hates you poor souls almost as much as they hate Feraligatr.
>>58585246which is baffling because Flygon is way more popular than Feraligatr
>>58584499I was wrong about mega Dragonite at first, I didn’t realize that most Megas did reference to previous evolutionI think when XNY came out I interpreted it most Megas as the Pokémon, but exaggerated. I didn’t really think about mega Tyrannosaurus and Charizard Y.
>>58585166Zard Y has Charmeleon's central horn, the face changes a bit to look a bit more like Charmeleon's too and the tone of skin on Mega Zard Y is ever so mildly redder to reference Charmeleon yet again. The claws on the smaller winged arms are no longer at the end of fingers like with regular Charizard, but are rather stubby claws once again to reference Charmeleon.I'll be frank, I really like Zard Y for the whole aerodynamic and more slim design it has, but I would've loved Giga Chadzard Y from the beta concepts.>>58585258Do you really think Gamefreak made Mega Feraligatr with any love whatsoever? Have you seen the damn thing? It's a humiliation ritual, just be glad Gamefreak doesn't have a spiteful piece of shit "artist" with a grudge against Flygon instead of them just not caring about it.
>>58585258The leak of the legends johto has to be real because there's no reason why totodile should be in there. Chikorita and tepig, sure but doubling up on johto was retarded. It could've been piplup, poplio or any other water starter without a mega. Piplup alone sells more merch than any other water starter. Gatr feels like they designed it with a gun to their head. The problem with flygon is that although its popular, its never been given to a trainer as their ace. It's just typically a team filler mon thats semi strong which is why other pokemon get prioritized i.e altaria for lisa, duraldon for raihan. A regional form is probably coming though
>>58584499You forgot Baxcalibur sharing it’s pre-evos posture >Zard Y>Manetric>Swampert>ChesnaughtThose are reaches and you know it
>>58584510they're ANTLERSit's a JACKALOPE
>>58585282Most insane part about about Mega Feraligatr’s existence is that that they could have just NOT given it a mega. 2 ZA starters being from johto was retarded from the beginning espailly when Empoleon was right there. Sinnoh starters got jackshit, and Piplup is one of is most popular starters ever.This isn’t even laziness or stupidity at this point, just pure malice. Game Freak has always hated Johto due to Tajari abandoning those unbearable jackasses during Gen 2, Masuda cracking the whip for the first time, and Iwata mogging the fuck out of them and making them look like complete failures. >>58585325Legends Johto was scrapped, the Tera Leak revealed that someone suggested Johto get a legends game but everyone laughed at them and said Johto sucks so they did galar instead.
>>58585325>its never been given to a trainer as their aceORAS (a Mega-focused game) introduced the character of Aarune, who only uses a Flygonhe gives you Garchompite and remarks how Flygon doesn't have a Megait's very intentional that it's getting nothing
>>58585325It wasn't just a leak, but part of the datamine of the new files for the Teraleak, we know it's legit, we didn't get as much stuff due to there not being much that was withheld from us still and also in large part because the leaker was discovered and his connection was cut fairly abruptly, we didn't get much in the way of concept art for later generations due to this outside of some very small stuff like the outline for 3 future games, the beta designs for the SWSH and SV MCs and the amazing concept art for beta team star, like this genuine motherfucker with his pimp ride 9000.Legends Johto had very little outlined about and it was clear they gave up on the idea for a past Johto game fairly early in development, the ZA MCs look very similar to Ethan and Lyra, especially Harmony, she's identical to Lyra.>>58585348I love Feraligatr and Empoleon a lot and I feel like regardless of which got the Mega, I'd still feel like I'd get kicked in the nuts and shot through the heart. Japs and normies love Piplup but tend to hate Empoleon for some retarded reason, so you just know they would give Empoleon a humiliation ritual Mega as well.
>>58585282>Zard Y has Charmeleon's central hornI don't think it's meant to mimic the central horn. The line goes from no horns -> 1 horn -> 2 horns -> 3 horns.>the face changes a bit to look a bit more like Charmeleon's tooI don't really see it? The snout is more of a V, Charizard and Charizard X's are straight, and Charmeleon's curves down.>and the tone of skin on Mega Zard Y is ever so mildly redder to reference Charmeleon yet againReaching a lot here. It's a different shade of orange, I don't think it's meant to be a direct reference to Charmeleon. The stubby claws are because the line's aiming more for a sky-based dragon and so there's less emphasis on the claws. I really don't see it, this feels a bit like every water starter being weapons-based or whatever.>>58585348I really, REALLY want Mega Feraligatr's design docs. Also I want the person who gave it 10 extra special attack to be shot, it's STILL fucking copying Gyarados. They couldn't have given it 10 extra speed to differentiate it some more?
>>58584499The only obvious ones are Feraligatr, Dragonite, and Chimecho, the others are big stretchesFeraligatr is just shit, Dragonite is decent but not great, and Chimecho easily does it the best
>>58584499Bro, you are really reaching with half of those.
>>58585430Pretty fair points to be honest.With the snout I meant by it curving like Charmeleon's curves down almost like a beak, Zard Y's looks like a middle point between Charizard's and Charmeleon's, same story with my point of the color scheme, it looks like something between Charmeleon and Charizard.>Mega FeraligatrThe saddest part is that it's speed increasing by 10 points would crucially allow Mega Feraligatr to not rely on running a jolly nature to even be able to outspeed a bunch of stuff, Gamefreak not only shat on us with the Mega's design, they also made this thing fucking terrible statwise too, for comparison, it only hits 2% harder than regular Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr, it is not even remotely worth it to run this thing, even with Water/Dragon being a fairly bonkers defensive type, Feraligatr already gets destroyed by faster Dragons normally, which is one of the biggest reasons it hasn't seen use in comp for a long while, it goes Mega and becomes even weaker to the Pokemon that already destroyed it like Dragapult, this thing is a sick joke.
>>58584499Nothing like going back to the basics
>>58584499this is nonsense, what is the schizo magic stupid shit your dischord invented again?
>>58585384Although piplup is retardedly more popular, I dont get this distain for empoleon that TPC has for Feraligatr. Empoleon has gotten really good cards in recent TCG (the alt art in BS is one of my favorites), it was chosen for Pokken, and its also in Unite. Not a single johto starter is in either of those games (holy shit). Of course it doesnt mean it couldnt have gotten a humiliation ritual mega but TCP does treat it far better. Like im serious, it feels like they want totodile to be a single stage mon
>>58584499I don't mind it. I like the whole 'chu line, so it doesn't bother me if there are bits of Pikachu in the mega Raichus.Hell, a bit of Pichu would have been cool even. My only issue is that one of them should have been an Alohachu mega instead.
>>58585970Not even Venusaur’s mega was that bad. I wouldn’t be surprised if internal documents had some disdain for Feraligatr.
>>58585246>darkrai>golisopodThey're gonna ruin my favorite pokemon, aren't they
it makes sense really. vestigial traits from their pre-evos can reawaken and give a boost to power. its like if an adult human somehow regained that neruoplasticity that lets them learn languages faster.
>>58584510they forgot to clean the extra pair up after the ai finished generating it
>>58585246>Magearna>Tatsurigi>Meowstic>GolurkI WONGET FUCKED FLYGONFRENS
I think it's cool, like reversing the effects of age or something. Ampharos' hair loss for example...
>>58586366Groudon and Kyogre are also examples. The Primal versions are supposedly what they looked like at the beginning.
>>58586366Which is funny since that's literally the dex entry for mega drampa despite not having a pre-evo... yet.
>>58585970Like even Meganium has been getting some stuff, and although the Mega isn't great, it's not offensive, but like Gamefreak has been doing this for years now, Feraligatr was even randomly a punching bag in the Genesect movie. It really does feel like Gamefreak has some fucking grudge against Johto and especially Feraligatr sometimes, hell they even hate Croconaw for some reason.>>58586036We already got the stats for Mega Darkrai and hmmmm......I am really sorry........>>58586239Mega Golurk is either going to be coolest thing ever, or the shittiest thing ever, there's no in-between.>>58586366Ampharos loses hair because of the electric charges running through it's body, I remember that being stated somewhere and I don't remember where it was.
>>58584686I guess the crown being like Quilladin's forehead tuft even though regular Chesnaught already has the same shape on its forehead
>>58586739>it really does feel like Gamefreak has some fucking grudge against Johto there's no feel about it, they absolutely despise Johto, They aren't even being subtle about it anymore. Shit reminder that the most popular Johto starter just doesn't get a mega period and never will, (though that ironically ended up a blessing considering how the ZA megas are turning out to be). The only reason its regional had any effort put into it instead of being a shit post because is because PLA was made the B team and even then they gave if Frisk even though every other other hisui mon got broken as fuck abilities. Really, the reason is multifaceted: possibly them viewing Johto as only existing to make Kanto look better, Bitterenss that their own stupidity and laziness made Gen 2 development hell for them, them trying to pander to tidepod eaters who's only knowledge of Johto is lame memes, hell even them being racist against the Kansai region is a possibly.
>>58585246>no mega toxicroakdang
>>58585258lol bullshit you think some random hoenn filler is more popular than a Johto starter mon
>>58585165Personally I prefer a mega for Flygon that just focuses on building on the adult antlion and dragon features rather than going back to Trapinch but at least the body proportions when the head thing is closed as shown in the sketch looks decent.Honestly makes me wish we'd get an alternate evolution for an insectoid or reptilian three-stage line where as it evolves it partially sheds its previous body but not completely resulting in an armour by the final stage made up of the basic stage (the outermost layer), the middle stage (the middle layer) and the final stage (the true body). Flygon could work given how drastically different each stage of the line is from one another but so could pretty much all the regional bugs or cases like Salamence and Tyranitar with a distinct coccoon stage.
>>58585384Is this what ended up becoming Jacinthe?
>>58586919Reminds me of how Slowking and Corsola got the worst regional variants. Slowpoke and Slowbro had fairly minimal differences and design wise were very similar to the originals, meanwhile Slowking gets a fucking hideous colour scheme and those ugly ass fucking eyes on the Shellder, meanwhile Corsola just fucking dies because they want to reference coral bleaching, you know, cause of all that coral that the UK is really well-known for.
>>58587175How did that break? The fuck?>>58585246>original colour magearnaThey better not fucking change its capture conditions (a living HOME dex of pokemon #001 - #890, up to the end of base-game SwSh) unless the new one is exclusively shiny (looks like an ultra ball).I earned that shitmon, and if little Satoshi or Akari wants one then they'd better fucking earn it as well.>>58585384I love everything about that pimpmobile, though Florges is an interesting choice of bedwarmer. Hell, I even love the rocket chair being supported by togetic.>>58587171I like Jacinthe, but she is nowhere near "flying spiky pimpmobile with angry pitbull face" levels of cool.
>>58587206Wait so what's the source of the image, is it just fan art someone did or what?
>>58586919>there's no feel about it, they absolutely despise Johto,>Pokemon Legends GS quietly scrapped>Galar of all places is next>If they revisit Johto it won't be within the next decade even>Original players will be 40+ by thenUntil then we have Typhlosion being cancelled and Feraligatr toilet humor...Mega Meganium is the only consolation.
>>58587130Flygon is popular as fuck. Like that thing routinely places high on Jap polls. Now if I was referring to Totodile I'd say maybe no, but Feraligatr just doesn't seem to be that well-liked. Kids want Typhlosion and Charizard instead, and Japs want Totodile over Feraligatr.
>>58587195Galarian Slowking is a really cool witch, the Shellder face is more prevalent because the Shellder is now in control as opposed to regular Slowking, also due to what was previously stated, it looks more feminine with the lashes because it's based on a witch. It's also an amazing Pokemon competitively, probably one of the best special tanks around. Cursola looks really cool but Gamefreak deliberately made it's stats shit, so that's kinda fair.>>58587206Gamefreak loves fucking over people dude, I wouldn't hold my breath on the special Magearna remaining as it is.>pimpmobileIt's fucking amazing how Gamefreak came up with the coolest concepts for the gangs of Paldea that all had different themes and looks, from pimps, to Mad Max bikers and beach party delinquents, and yet they went with the lame jokes that was Team Star. The fucking pimp gang had the most fucking amazing entrance imaginable in their concept art.>>58587223It's from the new files found in the remaining Teraleak stuff that dropped a while back, there's some amazing concept art that came from it.
>>58587171No this was SV concept not ZA. This is what ended up being ortega
>>58587298Still better than what we got regardless, it's a shame they didn't re-use the idea. Given all the different factions in ZA it would've been cool if there was a whole corporate/gang war going on in the city. I do hope we get a Fairy-Type specialist whose visual design would fit with using Pokemon like Granbull
>>58587298Cyrano also seems to take inspirations from the pimpmaster with his snazzy clothes and attitude.
>>58587240> If they revisit Johto it won't be within the next decade evenAns that’s a might be IF. Realistically Game Freak is done with Johto forever. That’s why they “replaced” typhlosion with Emboar. Johto’s never getting anything from Game Freak again so the trio doesn’t need parity in mega-bilityJohto legit gets more respect from fucking GO then Lame Freak
>>58584689Have to disagree Mega Feraligatr, you really don’t how Pokémon/character designs process works do you? If the concept/gimmick is shit, then it would get disapprove by the supervising Pokémon designer and the others in the Pokémon designing team. You really didn’t go through the Tera Leak files of how they’re doing this for the concept ideas to begin with huh? This means they actually liking Mega Feraligatr concept with the gimmick and all, though the only nitpick I have is they could have make the mask partially down but someone mentioned it being used as a catapult to counterattack its opponents…which is kinda neat.As for Mega Chimecho, it’s perfect, not over design and all. Heard ppl saying it alongside Mega Feraligatr are designed by the same artist because ‘the whole having a prevo prop in their Mega Evos’
