A flop and two bangers.
>>58588683They're all garbage
>>58588683Theyre all trash
Yeah too bad Emboar flopped
>>58588684>>58588686Turn on your monitor.
>>58588690She's the best design out of all new Megas.
>>58588683Yep. I feel sorry for emboarfags.
>>58588699Ew now i see ugly as fuck mega forms thanks for making things worse i guess
lol they're so pissed off about their ahh literally blue crocodile hahhhaha
>Mega Meganium and Emboar look like enhanced versions of themselves>Feraligatr looks like someone glued a lid on herseriously, what were they thinking
>>58588684FPBP, AS ALWAYS
>>58588730Because western fans don’t get the whole goofiness and reference of it. Japanese fans liking both Feraligatr and Meganium MORE than EmboarTheir hate on Emboar is THE WORST. Calling it a big fat ugly bastard that sucks at dating and get rejected LMFAO
>>58588804>WHOAH!11!1 IS THAT...A......R-REFERENCE?? SO EPIC!!1 I UNDERSTAND THAT REFERENCE!!1>western fans just don't get it
>>58588822Same for Mega Pyroar designExcept it’s sucks because it’s just two Pyroars of different genders and two different hairstyles combine into one. But if you’re japanese, then you’re understand the whole ‘kanji word on the mane’….still it sucks to me
>>58588683All three flopped, these fuckers are not getting marketed outside of this game
>>58588829
>>58588683It will always bother me how Emboar look out of place in this trio. It's too humanlike and overdesigned compare to others.
It pisses me off that there isn't actually a single fire type move that even somewhat evokes fighting with a spear. Emboar really should have gotten Fire Lash or whatever the fuck it's called.
>>58588872>overdesignedwelldesigned*
>>58588872thisyou can tell it’s a nugen mon just by looking at it
>Fairy beats fighting and dragonFeraligatr should've been Water/Steel
>>58588891>>58588851based>58588703>58588730rare hertards with decent opinions
>>58588872That’s why the Hisui trio mogs them.At least they all looked like feudal japan creatures
>>58588956Mega Emboar looks the best out of all 6 thobeit
>>58588956Megasisters..............
>>58588683Where are these "two bangers" you talk of my good sir ? Or is it that my eyes are tricked ?
>>58588985Mega Emboar and Mega Meganium.
>>58588683They at least tried with Mega Emboar. Mega Meganium is basic and Mega Feraligatr is just bad and makes no sense
>>58588874It’s even more annoying that Heat Crash is still worthless on it, as it’s only slightly heavier than the base form
>>58589004I would suggest you reconsider your tastes
>>58589016Her ability will fix everything.
>>58589016>Heat Crash is still worthless on it Just don't fucking use it then?
>>58588956ZABROS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>58588956The Arceus trio mogs them so fucking hard, the ZA trio might be one of the worst trios in the entire franchise
>>58589039Can you not swear in this wholesome thread please?
>>58588683Why are you mean to the lunchlady in a muumuu?
>>58589045Fuck no
>>58588956Mega Kalos starters were surprisingly great so I wonder what the fucking happened with designing mega ZA starters.
>>58588683WE WON>WE WONWE WON>WE WONWE WON>WE WONWE WON
>>58589039Base Emboar already doesn’t use Heat Crash as Reckless + Flare Blitz is stronger Mega could’ve fixed that but is just a waste of a megaslot lol
>>58588683I hate all three equally
>>58589072Can't unsee Mega Emboar as a fat lunch lady now
>>58589090The starters are mostly fine. Emboar's staff looks bad (needed a better model), but it's a decent design otherwise. Meganium is good. Feraligtr is the only true miss. Can't wait for people to start up with the "it grew on me" posting when mega Gatr gets an overpowered ability / kit.
>>58589097No one gives a crap on that fat ugly bastard
>>58588956Mega flopped
>toilet>head looks detachable >AsianGod, these Megas fucking SUCK BALLS.
>>58589227it's kind of impressive how they excluded the hoenn and kalos starter megas from the main gameplay just to force the players to pick these shitters as if i'm not going to box it anyway
>>58589227>>Asianjust say you're a fan
>>58589227More like…ToiletGaybianUgly Bastard
>>58588956It has to stretch its arms for this to work and that's what bugs me.
>>58588956Megasissies btfo
>>58588804>Japanese fans liking both Feraligatr and Meganium MORE than EmboarIt's strange because even Japanese fans actually consider Mega Emboar to be the best design of the trio. Which makes it weirder that it gets less attention than the others. Maybe, controversy sells? Nostalgia bias? Anti-Emboar bias too strong?Also, Grok is retarded with translation.
Emboar failed twice lmao
>>58588683i see 3 flops
>>58588683They should be ashamed of themselves for what they did to Feraligatr.
>>58589729>Mega blaziken
>>58589729I should screenshot some random schizo post here and make a thread on 2ch pretending thats's what all westfags think
>>58588804>Japs like Mega Feraligatr more than EmboarThere goes my hopes for gf acknowledging the design was a bad idea. Fuck, do nips ever have standards? The design outside of the stupid lid isn’t even bad.
>>58589906I mean, it's a pretty consistent sentiment.
>>58589934My bad, I thought the Twitterfag was shitposting with Mega Camerupt and Blaziken
>>58589959Yeah, like I said, Grok is absolutely shit with translations. Even Google manages to do better.
>>58588683Cool band name
Meganium is okay. Emboar is good. Feraligatr is shit.
>>58590159So you liking lesbianium and hogly bastard instead of toilegatr? That’s fineNow there’s a r34 artwork of Mega Emboar showing his shlong alongside pignite. Next is gonna be a doujin of the fat oinker making love with trainers
>>58590159correct
>>58590282Your taste is shit if you liking a fat discord mod better than a toilet croc
>>58588730>>58588804>mega feraligatr hated in the west>mega emboar hated in the eastHe won.
>>58590187>>58590301meds
All three flopped
>>58590533Bro he ain’t kidding. There’s really a r34 pic of the Mega Emboar lmao
>>58588703Emboar isn't the best anything>Worst pig pokemon>Shittiest fire starter>Ugliest starter >Terrible stats>Terrible megaAwful pokemon all around.
>>58590702>>Worst pig pokemonThat's not whatever that psychic pig is.
>>58589390The top didn’t lose for being megas. They would have lost no matter what becuase the ZA starters except Feraligatr are among the least popular starters in the franchise. Ans even Gatr’s popularity pales one comparison to typhlosion’s which itself is only liked by the small handful of people who played a Johto game on release who are still Pokémon fans megas are so much more popular than regionals that had the PLZA trio gotten regionals and the PLA trio gotten megas, the poll would have been 1% to 99% in PLA’s favorite (provided that the megas follow the XY,ORAS philosophy for actually trying instead of filing that humiliation skibbibi philosophy for ZA)
>>58589754Oof
>>58590724Grumpig is great faggot
>>58590187>hates emboar>looks up porn of itOkay faggot
>>58592136No one with a 70+ IQ thinks this
>>58592181(You)
>>58588683Mega feraligator is our 9/11
>>58588683it's incredible how GF refuses to make good-looking designs lately
>>58590187>>58592169I’m surrounded by morons
>>58588683Two are literal dogshit, one is just okay.
>>58588683It's impossible for me to articulate just how bad these are. They're just literally the last stage with things added to them. Like one gets a toilet seat, another one gets just a flower bouquet, and the third one gets a stick. That's all. That's all they are. Although I'll say the Emboar one is actually not bad, but the other two are terrible. Terrible.They had so many options.
>>58588683 2 gen 2 pokemon and then fucking emboar? are they retarded? (YES!!!)
>Mega feraligatr suck so ass people aren't even drawing it with the other two mega dragon starters >Tepiggers hyping up their mega so hard only to STILL be the least popular choice by miles >Redditors (Meganiumfags) alone in the cuck corner auto-fellatio the most mid ass mega form to ever exist >Pretty much literally everyone prefered the hisuian trio compared to the ZA trio >Feraliggots are now stuck with the ugliest mega form >Typedos are cucked by receiving a mega form and samushitters got regionally replaced >Serperior most likely getting getting a mememax form with primarina and incineroar unless gamefreaks wants to SUBVERT LE EXPECTATIONS again >Kalos starters megas were the real winners all along
>>58592442>Mega feraligatr suck so ass people aren't even drawing it with the other two mega dragon starters ?????
>>58592515Nice kindergarten drawing you got here
>>58588804If that's true, the Japanese desperately need Pokemon to be taken away from them. They are ruining their own franchise and do not deserve it.
>>58592442>>Kalos starters megas were the real winners all alongThey’re locked behind paid online
>>58592745And despite all that they still got more glaze than the ZA trio lol
>>58592442>the most mid ass mega form to ever existThe fact that it has an actually good design was enough to mindbreak every typhlosionfag on the board for like three days straight when it first leaked, Meganium won hard
>>58592772>Meganium won hard Special ed olympics
>>58592837get mad
>>58592887No
>>58592772Honestly, I would be personally insulted that anything as ugly as Mega Feraligatr would exist at all, regardless of which gen 2 starter I liked the most. I'd be personally insulted if Mega Pyroar or Starmie existed with in the same universe as my favorite Pokémon in general. Every Pokémon suffers when there are any irredeemable designs.
>>58592931Yeah I was always gonna choose Chikorita but I can't say I'm happy about the other two megas desu, I really like their base formsHonestly I'm just happy they spared Meganium the humiliation and gave it a good mega
>>58592945I'm a Gatrchud myself, but I harbor no ill will to the other two. Starter Wars are stupid. I actually really like Mega Meganium--They didn't mangle him like they did my boy. Glad he basically looks the same but just a little enhanced. When GF goes all out on a design is when they destroy mons, and they didn't with Meg.
>>58592976I’m a gatrfag and all of my hatred is directed towards the stupid fucking mega.
>>58592993Based. And it's worse because they'll probably see the hate it gets and just not care. They'll NEVER make any attempt to improve it. It'll always be there.
>>58592772It's not hard to mindbreak a Typhlosionfag. They're still mindbroken about Tepig being in the game because they think he stolen their pokemon's spot despite it already being in Arceus.
>>58592993>>58593006They only care about the japanese because so far they actually liking itJaps are calling us idiots and telling us to stick to watching woke and brainrot shows because thats what were good at
>>58593357Two nukes weren’t enough.
Your designers were so preoccupied with whether or not it was based on thing, they didn't stop to think if they SHOULD base it on thing.
>>58593357Who cares youre a gatrfag? you probably too stupid to understand because1. youre not japanese 2. youre not born or raise in japan 3. youre not a fan of kamen rider 4. you have a bad childhood 5. monkey see. monkey do. they jump off the wall. you jump off the wall. they suck dick. you suck dick.
>>58593357Are they though? Picrel says otherwise. But I do agree they're thinking about their Japanese fanbase too much when they design this shit. I also think the Japanese fanbase is okay with a lot more than we are.
>>58593391see>>58592931You suffer from this awful design too. This thing is canonically in the same universe as your starter.
>>58593438Yeah because japs have no fucking standards
>>58593461True.
>>58592442>>Tepiggers don't give a shit about popularity>>Megameganium is just meganium but more. Redditors (Meganiumfags) are happy with their mid ass mega form because its what Meganium always was >>Feraliggots can ignore their ugliest mega form since Sheer Force Feraligatr is as overpowered as a KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO starter >>"Typedos" were in PLA and got regional form that looks better and has more effort than most ZA megas put together because it was most likely made by the 1 (ONE) (UNO) person at Kike Freak who's not a faggot and actaully gives a shit about Typhlosion, And again considering how you JUST lambasted the megas the ZA starters got, you can really call missing out on that shit being "cucked" >"Samushitters" were also in PLA, and calling regionals replacement only makes since if you believe that Kike Freak's compshit is anything other than an unbalanced farce that only exists to gaslight NPC's,and normoids, into liking Kike Freak's approved shillmon>>Considering how much Kike Freak worships Gaylar for some retarded reason, they might actaullly try with the giganatmax forms so Serp, Prima, and BaraTigerofHealthy won't get skibbidied >If Kike Freak wants to SUBVERT LE EXPECTATIONS, they'll make a good fucking game. That'd be the surprise of the fuckign millennium >>Kalos starters megas were the real winners all alongThe real "winners" will always be the KANTOOOOOOOOOOO starters, followed by the Hoenn starters due to being the most coddled shillmons
>>58593357Curious, what is your source?>search オーダイル メガシンカ (feraligatr mega evolution) on youtube>click on one of the top videos (730k views) https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7DoqAJSZtWM>translate japanese commentsI put a red line around the ones with over a hundred likes. To be fair, I included positive and neutral comments in the screenshot too, if you can find them.>The concept is interesting, but I wanted a bit more variety when it was open.804 likes>When closed, it's a Mega Totodile. When opened, it's not so good. I wonder if it's designed for this, but it's sad that it's not so good when open.239 likes>Please bring me back to the person in charge of design for the first Mega Evolution. The designs in X and Y are so godlike that it feels like "this is not what I expected"160 ikes>They gave us the long-awaited Mega Evolution, but like an elementary school kid back then, I was hoping for a "cool!" form.161 likes>It looks too funny when it's open, so I wish they'd split the top part into two to make it look more like wings.100 likes
>>58593474WTF they have common design sense?
>>58593474they’re just like us…
>>58589910Nips eat dogs anon. They have very low standards.
ORANGUTAN ARMSBAHAHAHAHAHA
>>58593511HE
>>58593514HAS NO STYLE
>>58588683>Feraligatr>Gets some stupid hood that looks really awkward and forces him to stretch out his arms instead of actually bite with his alligator mouth>Meganium>It's just Meganium with more flowers>Literally nothing else>Emboar>Looks almost identical>Has a bacon spear>That he doesn't actually use in combat>Except when casting Special moves, then he uses the spear as a magic wandIt's astounding how Gamefreak can design the excellent Kalos starter megas and then come up with these three that range from horrible to just plain boring.
>>58593474You’re judging from the internet speaking for itselfAnd should we even be surprise they loving the Mega Evo than the rest of us? Look at how majority of people in the west hating on the mecha and idol genre while the other side of the world liking those genres. Sure, they like anime shows like Gurren Lagan and Code Geass but overall they claimed the entire genre sucks in the end.
>>58593637>It's astounding how Gamefreak can design the excellent Kalos starter megasMegas in general tend to struggle to be anything except horrible or boring. Just because there's a few exceptions like Banette or Scolipede shouldn't blind you that over 80% of them are a downgrade visually form the base form; or just alter the design so minimally there's no reason for it's existence.
>>58593474Funny how they actually acknowledged the childhood culture theme with Feraligatr being like an elementary school kid and all but also point out the helmet problem LOL
>>58593474Show this to Hayao MiyazakiHe would disapprove all of them because if you know his takes on American films, he can be harsh on itAnd I don’t think Hayao Miyazaki has watch any form of Pokémon shows and media at all
>>58593660> Megas in general tend to struggle to be anything except horrible or boringThat’s because they only exist to shill CHARIZARD and a handful of other shillmons, everything else about it was phoned in.
>>58593682He hasn’t watch any kinds of anime or films in his entire life. The guy only focus on working in his own projects and nothing else.He did regard and respect a lot of animators working in animation companies like Toei for example but didn’t mention or criticising any of the shows from it
>>58593660>Megas in general tend to struggle to be anything except horrible or boring.Post your tier list, I’m curious after you said fucking Mega Banette is good.
>>58593637If you think Megas are supposed to drastically change a pokemon's design, then that's your problem. Most megas were always "take base pokemon and add more stuff to it." Even the face of mega evolution just took base Lucario, gave it a fur coat, longer dreads, add more spikes and red accents.
>>58593799Mega lucario sucks and goes against everything that made vanilla lucario unique
>>58593800Not that anon. How? Just curious why you think so.
>>58593799God, why they thought THIS design should be the face of megas is beyond me.This shit is so much worse than base lucario.
>>58593753Something like this.There are more acceptable looking ones than I thought, but then you have some outright horrid ones like Sableye, Pyroar, and Salamence weighing the whole lot down.
>>58593809Because despite how dogshit Lucario's design is, he's consistently a top 5 Pokemon in every popularity poll ever. It wouldn't be outlandish to say that he might be a furry selfinsert OC of someone at GameFreak with how hard he's been shilled.
>>58593807>How? Just curious why you think so. Base lucario is a spiritual fighter He is often shown meditating as well. The "aura" is a very spiritual concept. it is the typical monk who uses ki power to fire kamehameha beams accompanied by its martial arts skills even when it uses "Bone rush" it looks like a shaolin for the way it uses it Mega lucario doesn't really have any of that? he's just a ruthless fighter and that's it lucario's aura gets sronger but that's about it even modern lucarios like roy's or ash's lost that "Monk-like" flavor lucario used to have in its own movie it's like gamefreak and TPC just forgot how lucario used to be
>>58593811What are your general thoughts on regional forms?
>>58590702>worst pig PokémonLechonk line>shittiest Fire starterbase Charizard or Typhlosion>ugliest starterDrizzile, Skeledirge
>>58593860Much better in concept, only slightly better in execution.Megas have an issue of being tied to the base form entirely. The only way to access it is to see the original, often better looking, base form, before clicking the button to see a long ass animation just to become ugly.Regionals are entirely separate from their inspiration; it's almost like Volbeat / Illumise levels of separation.The problem with regionals in execution is that a lot of them seem to be "wouldn't it be funny if-" and then that just becomes the whole design. There's not much believably that many of them are fantasy creatures in the world anymore.Don't get me wrong, they have a higher design success rate than Megas of course, but not by as much as you'd probably think.
>>58593811Pretty abhorrent taste overall even with the correct shitters in horrid design but I figured that’s what I’d get based on your earlier opinions.
>>58588703Not exactly a high bar to reach LOL
>>58592442>Kalos starters megas were the real winners all alongMake the in-game Megas suck ass and then make the ones you put any effort into designing as paid online/dlc. It's ingenious
>>58593922Mega Meganium is good though, and I will die on that hill.
>>58593926>and I will die on that hill.Go on then
>>58593856I get it diverges from what you say it does, but I every dex entry says it does the same thing, only with greater focus of its energy into combat. And however it may be portrayed in the anime, nothing character design-wise screams 'shaolin monk'-- It's a stylized Anubis. Mega's are just an "extreme" version of what it originally was, and I don't see how that's inherently bad, unless you just don't like megas in general which is respectable. I CAN see this new Lucario Z form being the more focused counterpart to the wild original version. Knowing Game Freak, it'll be shit.
>>58588703That's a lot of Y shapes
>>58588683Feraligatr looks so lame with that toilet lid constantly hanging from it
>>58593660>exceptions like Banettekek
