Humiliation Ritual Dex entry
now if only samurott got a mega that turned it into oshawott to restore its sword using power
>>58618499Why bother evolving this fucker if he's just going to get weaker in return?
>>58618499>create what is effectively big Totodile>have all of its dex entries focus on how intimidating it is and how its jaw is extremely strong >have it be big and hulking, but also capable of moving fast>>release a mega that shits on it, makes its jaw strength not actually strong, and look utterly goofy, defeating the point of it being presented as intimidatinglmao
>>58618529You’re delusional if you think Samurott is getting a mega at all when it received a regional variant that literally does what you described
>>58618615it got a regional that’s equally as bad at using swords
>>58618499I work at Gamefreak.I hate Feraligtr with a burning passion and we made this with only malicious in our hearts. You bought it anyways btw.
>>58618499The only piece of good lore from the website is the fact that the dorsal fin acts as a heat sink. That's it. Somehow that's the ONLY bit of good lore they came up with.
>>58618638Yes.Next question.
>>58618619>it got a regional that’s [HEADCANON]
>>58618499How does this even make sense. Isn't its "lower jaw" just its arms being held out? I can't imagine this thing biting with much more force than getting elbowed.
>>58618690It doesn’t lmao
>>58618499ZA, NuMegas, Gen 6 was a mistake
>>58618561Totodile's dex entries say Totodile's bites can crush anything. It's not that Feraligatr is weak but Totodile just has the more optimized jaw.
>>58618619>it got a regional that’s [CANON]
>>58618698pure cope
>>58618698I don't give a single shit about these excuses. The intent is to show that its fucking baby form is better at biting which is utterly asinine. It makes all of Feraligatr's "dude its jaws are strong" dex entries seem pointless. Why even include that blurb? It didn't need to be there.
>>58618724>It makes all of Feraligatr's "dude its jaws are strong" dex entries seem pointlessIt doesn't, weaker does not mean weak.
I actually think they made this to spite anyone who liked gen 2 starters. Ironically only cyndaquil escaped their wrath. Meganium also didn't get hit as hard but it feels way more low effort sadly, Meganium really deserved something stellar.
>>58618499i would retcon this mega by calling the mask a cancerous tumor
>>58618731Yeah, instead now we get>uhhh weaker bite force than its baby form lol, lmaoYou're coping hard. And so am I, fuck.
>>58618749His Mega was actually just a Mega dragalge victim....They just say it mega evolved so you wouldn't feel bad for it.
The design is eh but I bet there's a lot of animals like that irl, losing something beneficial as they develop
>>58618774Name 10 right now.
>>58618774shut up retard
>>58618776Frogs and their tails for swimmingMosquitos and their siphonsCaterpillars and their mouthsCrabs and their shells briefly and repeatedlyBees and their ability to reproduceThat's all that I can personally think of but I'm also NTA.
The fact we are still getting threads based purely on how bad this mega is, is truly something.I don't think I've seen a single pokemon this hated before. Impressive how gamefreak managed this after some of the trash they've produced, but it's also likely amplified by the fact they ruined a classic pokemon instead of making a new ugly design.
>>58618805>they ruined a classic pokemon instead of making a new ugly design.And that's on top of the fact that it's a mega, so people are comparing it to other megas, like >>58618654
>>58618638So that he can be humiliated even further by fairies
>>58618698A Pokemon is supposed to get stronger after it evolves, not weaker.
>>58618736You’re delusional. Typhlosion got branded as a pedophile, and even though Meganium’s mega design is simple, it doesn’t actively turn the Pokemon into a joke. Meganium won the Johto starter wars.
>>58618959>A Pokemon is supposed to [HEADCANON]
>>58618964To be fair those were from leaks we weren't meant to see, we were meant to see Mega feraligtr.
>>58618974Doesn’t matter. Meganium is now the only Johto starter that hasn’t had its reputation permanently destroyed. The Typedofags and Feraligayturdfags that bullied Meganium fans have finally gotten their just desserts, and it feels fucking amazing.
>>58618985Mega Gatr looks far more like a toilet than Mega Meganium looks like that. Your attempts to slander the chad dino won’t work anymore.
>>58618499Feraligatr along with its dex entries feels too edgy by modern Pokemon standards and reinforces the stereotypes of toxic masculinity. It would fit more in something like Mortal Kombat.
So how long until we start seeing romhacks where Totodile has base 130 attack just to fully canonize the humiliation ritual?
>>58618997They don’t suck as hard as Feraligatr does on big Meganium cock.
>>58618552Maybe Ash is onto something
>>58618974you know what EVERY OTHER company in existence does when they want to make sure something doesn't get seen? Delete it. Or better yet, not write it in the first place. even if we give Game Freak the benefit out the doubt (that they really don't deserve) and assume that the leak was entirely accidently. Those faggots are definitely laughing their asses off that Typhlosion was the one ruined by their retarded interns fanfics, had it been any other starter getting cancelled the writer would have been blacklisted and had it been Charizard the writer would have been lynched. You can not deny this.
>>58618499Theres no coming back from this humiliation ritual holy shit
I get that everyone's pissed about the bite but like... Feraligatr IS stronger. It's got better claws and stronger arms, and not to mention can do better with moves like hydro pump. It's EXCLUSIVELY the bite that gets weaker here.That's like being upset that you've lost your ability to bite down with gorilla strength when you have two machine guns for hands now.
>>58618499Feraligtr has to be the most cucked mon in the seriesIn GS it looked amazing, then THIS happened and it went all downhill from there
>>58619100It’s called the Big Jaw Pokemon. That’s supposed to be its defining feature, otherwise why wouldn’t you just use another Pokemon with strong arms and sharp claws that actually excels in what its meant to do unlike Feraligayturd?>That's like being upset that you've lost your ability to bite down with gorilla strength when you have two machine guns for hands nowNo. That’s like being upset you have to repair a machine while only having poorly-designed tools.
>>58619125Even in GS it was getting mogged by Red Gyarados, you had literally no reason to pick Totodile because an objectively better mon would become available and be at a whopping level 30 the instant you got surf, after you whooped Morty's ass with your piddly crew of level 20s.
>>58619125Feraligatr has never been good. It’s just Totodile but bigger which is incredibly uninspired.
>>58618529>into oshawottBetter into Dewott
They don't want other Pokemon starter surpass Charizard, your fate is over
>>58619134Okay, let me revise this: This is like downgrading from a small hydraulic press to a somewhat weaker industrial trash compactor when you want to smush small objects. It's still a strong animal, and now it can handle even larger shit, you're just sour over the fact it's not meant to do the same job anymore.
>>58619136Gyarados is worse than feraligatr in gen 2. In HGSS you literally have no reason to pick totodile, but in GSC feraligatr has better SpA to take advantage of its STAB and gets ice punch for coverage after 2 badges. Gyarados isn't anything special in-game in gen 2.
>>58619136> Even in GS it was getting mogged by Red Gyarados,This is a very common misconception. Gyarados is a near perfect substitute for Feraligatr if you picked a different starter, but Gatr still better since it gets ice punch. hell, Feraligatr evolves at level 30 meaning you’d get it around the time you would have gotten Gyarados. And water is such a broken type (especially in early gens were electric was mid and grass was a joke) that even if you picked Feraligatr you could just have two water types. In HGSS things swing much more in Gyarados’ favor due to having Intimidate and getting Aqua tail much sooner.
>>58618638The mask is "crystallized dragon energy"
>>58618654the colors chosen for anime Sceptile look awful compared to its Sugimori art and in-game colors - the main body is too lime green, providing too harsh a contrast between the body and "tree" sections
>>58618964>Typhlosion got branded as a pedophile?????
>>58618776Humans used to fly
>>58619125Hank hill ass
>>58619302Part of the lore in the Teraleak was a story of a Typhlosion luring a girl into its den and turning her into a broodmare via threatening her father’s life.Hence, Typhlosion is a pedo.
>>58619324jesus
>>58618709>ParrotingTPC already finds Samugod unworthy of humiliation pre-evo reference form, you lost
why make an ass out of feraligatrfags specifically though? they weren't even a blip on the radar until this point
>>58619358It wasn’t lore. Some intern who only worked at game freak for a month or so anymore wrote a bunch of sex stories set in ancient Sinnoh but Game Freak did one thing right in their lives and rejected them for going again the spirit of the franchise and being too low quality anyway (yes they were that bad). Also it wasn’t even a “typhlosion” story it was a slaking but some rando scribbled in Typhlosion’s name in the second to last second then erased that and used Piloswine. But typhlosion is the one Gen Alpha hates so typhlosion’s the only one pokefags tried to cancel.Also the actual story the “girl” was a very dumb adult who wandered into forest and a typhlosion (who came somehow turn into a man) saves her sorry ass and lets her in stay in its cave. They somehow fall in love and somehow have a baby. After a year or so the father finds them. The typhlos-man thing wants her to stay but she says wants leave. So the typhlo-man thing tells her a funeral song and let’s the man kill it But it was all pointless anyone because the minute the girl returns the villager torture her and her baby so badly she literally loses her humanity and becomes a typhlosion as has to run way to the forest she was just “saved” from
>>58618804except Crocs are so turbo optimized that they haven't changed in 100 million years
>>58619006unironically kill yourself, idiot
>>58619125What’s funny is that in RS they reused the back sprites for a few pokemon but went out of their way to make… this.
>>58619125The sprites after this were fine, and then he went back to being weird in gen 6 and 7. I think the model got tweaked slightly in gen 9 and PLZA.
>>58620478No, the Slaking story is completely different.The Slaking story is about an idiot woman who killed the Slakoth population, so one of the Slaking, seeking justice for its kin, raped her in order to repopulate, and the woman became an outcast because of her Slakoth child.
>>58621040Slaking had two stories. The justice rape you mentioned and the groomer rape one that ruined typhlosion.
>>58621022lol
>>58618499Based Kalos shitting on Johtobabies' sacred starters with joke megas and kekworthy dex entries
>>58618499>Mega Evolution gave Feraligatr this "Totodile mask" in order to restore its biting power.
>>58618724Does this help it make it any more sense
>>58622469doesn’t really address the point that anon is making desu
>Mega Evolution gave Feraligatr this "Totodile mask" in order to restore its biting power.
Pikachu actually has much stronger electricity than Raichu which is why Raichu mega evolves into Pikachu twice
>>58618736This. Gamefreak has actively gone out of their way to shit on Johto continuously, because they deem it necessary to punish Johto for daring to breathe the same air as Kanto. Their seething hostility towards Johto needs to be studied and harnessed for power.
>>58623453To be precise, it's spite towards Masuda, especially now that we know that GS is the result of his assertive takeover after Tajiri gave up.This is also why Hoenn got ruined by Ohmori's waifushit, Sinnoh got ruined by empty tech demo fields and a dogshit "remake" that's more of a port, and Unova isn't ever being revisited and instead had its contents stuffed into those empty tech demo fields and a SV DLC that takes place in "Unova, but not really".Note how much more reverence LZA shows towards Kalos, at least the parts of things that Masuda likely didn't have a hand in. Come time for Legends: Galar, you're going to see an extremely different tune be played when it comes to redeeming the Galar region.
>>58623453Game Freak’s bitter that their own retardation and laziness made Gen2’s development hell for them, that Tajiri abandoned them due to not willing put up with their pedophilia and stupidity, that Masuda stepped up and cracked the whip on their slacking asses, and they Iwata made them all look like faggots by saving GS by optimizing it well enough for it to be playable (Iwata being responsible for Kanto is a myth to make game freak look like they had the slightest bit of a clue. truth is those faggots couldn’t even get the game to run without Iwata)
>>58618499This picture is now CANON
>>58618499>Humiliation Ritualthis is a dog whistle to me to laugh at the person saying this
I am starting to find Gen 2 starter fags very annoying.
>Mega Faggogatr wastes your Mega slot to deal effectively the same damage as the base formThe funnier thing is if Champions brings in Terastallizing then it is outright just weaker than standard Sheer Force Gatr>b-but the ability will save it-It's getting Strong Jaw. An utter dogshit ability
>>58618754cuz he's a special little guy
>>58618983>The time has come and so have i
>>58618953I wish Meganium would humiliate me
>>58623460>Come time for Legends: Galar, you're going to see an extremely different tune be played when it comes to redeeming the Galar region.Galar doesn't need redeeming, it's the best region in the series. But Legends Galar will be awesome.
>Mega Evolution gave Feraligatr this "Totodile mask" in order to restore its biting powe
>>58623379This actually happened in the anime. Team Rocket accidentally grabbed Tierno's Raichu instead of Ash's Pikachu, and when Raichu shocked them, they complained that its electricity was weaker than Pikachu's.
>look at me>I'm retarded
>>58625401I didn't see that scene, but that seems to be more about ASH's Pikachu being abnormally strong rather than Raichur's being weak, which would explain why Team Rocket was so obsessed with that particular Pikachu for nearly 30 years as far as I know, Raichu has been consistently portrayed has having far more raw power than Pikachu. Surge's Raichu completely destroyed Pikachu until Pikachu got Charged, and even then Pikachu had to outmaneuver Raichu in order to defeat it.
>>58624233I disagree
>>58620478>It wasn’t lore. Some [HEADCANON]manchildren are really mindbroken by the fact their heckin wholesome chungus franchise is made by japanese men who are fine with exploring kid-unfriendly (or rather, manchild-unfriendly) topics behind the scenes
>>58618499I just assumed that what it's referring to is the fact that Feraligatr has a big underbite and Totodile's jaw is flatter. I don't think it's necessarily that Feraligatr is weaker and more just that it can use the strength it does have better without the big, wavy underbite wasting some effort that Totodile's simple flat jaw doesn't. That said it still looks like shit, not necessarily because of the toilet thing but also because even without that, the cap unironically looks like a piece of play-doh and hinges like one of those crappy transforming animal toys.
>>58620478Bud you sound like a redditor by embellishing it with "le intern" and "le fanfic" shit mate, just say scrapped background text from a leak like a normal person.
>>58623475>>58623460>>58623453Shit's fucking wild, you really think they're spiting Johto as a whole because of one dogshit mega design and some scrapped story? Really? You guys are fucking autistic, take a step back and reread your posts and realize how loony you sound. It's not malice, it's incompetence, that's been GF's thing the whole time.
Looking a little deeper into it, Croconaw's dex entries say:>Once Croconaw has clamped its jaws on its foe, it will absolutely not let go. Because the tips of its fangs are forked back like barbed fishhooks, they become impossible to remove when they have sunk in. and Feraligatr's say:>When it bites with its massive and powerful jaws, it shakes its head and savagely tears its victim up. >Feraligatr intimidates its foes by opening its huge mouth. In battle, it will kick the ground hard with its thick and powerful hind legs to charge at the foe at an incredible speed. I believe the lore here is that while Totodile has the best biting feats on paper, Croconaw and Feraligatr developed jaws that are better for latching on to prey and holding them down permanently, their jaws are better for hunting. Feraligatr also develops a more bulky body for chasing and wrestling down opponents.
>>58618552Totodile have absurd bite strength to make up for their small body. The evolutions have more versatility with their larger bodies + stronger limbs
>>58625672Just saying its one hell if a coincidence that the only Pokémon ruined by Game Freak’s incompetence just so happen to be Johto starters Absolute best case scenario, they don’t intend sabotage Johto, they just respect it the least out of every region so don’t bother to do the bare minimum to make sure shit like this doesn’t happenAlso the Tera Leak part 2 revealed all of Game Freak’s workplace troubles and explicitly proved >>58623460
>>58625918Bud, the Hisui variant of Typhlosion is fine and Mega Meganium is fine. >But I don't like themOkay, still not a conspiracy. Mega Gatr being utter dogshit isn't either, you probably had some tard who proposed it and noted how it makes merchandise easier because the toilet lid works really well on plushies and cheap hinged figures.The extra thing is that neither ZA or LA are Johto games. They also don't shit on other Johto designs, Hisui Sneasel is fine and so is Sneasler, and Wyrdeer and Ursaluna are also fine, giving attention to some incredibly forgotten Johtomons without fucking their designs up. And even if you dislike those, and we bring in the masuda hate from the leaks, they didn't even shit on the Unova mons despite snubbing the region. They got plenty of Paradox counterparts that don't disrespect the design in the way Toilet Gatr does, and Mega Emboar is the most positively recieved according to polls on the starter megas. Sure the region is condemned to hell forever and will never see another game, but the Pokemon are treated fine.
>>58625564You are wrong.
>>58626893I disagree
>>58618529rent free
I wonder why make it look like Totodile at all? Is the thing really that popular that you need to essentially fuck over his evolution to bring back the "Totodile popularity"? It's just weird Back then when a Mega referenced a pre-evo it was specific general traits that were forgotten by the final form, like the wool from Mareep and Flaffy for Mega Ampharos or the spikes from Metang for Mega Metagross, hell they did this with Dragonite in this batch of Megas, logic would follow if they wanted to pull this theme again with Feraligatr, it would be the actual motif that was lost during evolution, aka Croconaw's caveman theme, but somehow we ended with with... a weird mimicry gimmick that logically doesn't even seen to do what it's claiming it does ("stronger bite force" lol lmao)
>>58625672They also probably know they can't compete with HGSS being considered the gold standard for a lot of people so they try to make things related to Johto look bad.
>>58627221>Is the thing really that popular that you need to essentially fuck over his evolution to bring back the "Totodile popularity”?It’s the most popular member of its line in Japan by far. They also never had Ash evolve his Totodile in the anime. Feraligatr has barely any appearances in the anime, and most of the time it just ends up jobbing to other mons like Ash’s Snorlax and a Genesect using Blaze Kick. It’s also been absent from many spinoffs like Pokemon Conquest, Pokken Tournament and Pokemon Unite. I think TPC and GameFreak genuinely just do not care for this Pokemon, and why should they? Compared to other starters like Charizard, Sceptile, Blaziken, Greninja, Incineroar and Meowscarada, Feraligatr has a very boring and uninspired design.
>>58627221>>58627639Remember: only Japan matters and they hate Feraligatr.
>>58628334Proof?
>>58628337>Proof?mega feraligatr’s design? Feraligatr never appearing prominently in spin-offs? it being mogged in popularity in japan thus leading to its current joke status?
>>58628345>mega feraligatr’s design?Circular logic. Mega Feraligatr’s design is why this discussion is being had. >Feraligatr never appearing prominently in spin-offs? johto starters as a whole appear in squat, johto starters are the least shilled starters in the franchise, hence the common theory that the johto starters weren’t made to beloved like every other starte but made solely to make the KANTOOOOOOO starters look better >it being mogged in popularity in japan thus leading to its current joke status?I believe you but do you have a Japanese poll to prove it?
>>58623475>Tajiri abandoned them due to not willing put up with their pedophilia and stupiditysauce?
>>58628376Tera leak part 2. I don’t have it but went into detail about many of the office politics problems game freak had, though most of the focus was about how Masuda having to be extremely strict to get the staff to do anything and it made the staff bitter. Which is why Masuda got promoted upstairs out of Game FreakZ
>>58628368>Circular logicThat's not circular logic, that's the reason given for why Mega Feraligatr's design is bad. Japs don't like it, so Gamefreak didn't care.>mogged in popularityOnly recent (official?) poll was back in 2023, it's just this one. There's one from 2022 as well, I think, and Feraligatr doesn't show up on either. Neither does Totodile for that matter. To be honest, though, I don't really think that's the reason for why it Mega Feraligatr looks like this. It looks more like some retarded shareholder pushed their weight around because it would make a good toy.
>>58628385oh i knew about Masuda taking over.I meant the reason for Tajiri leaving. As far as I knew that part was a mystery and the typical assumption was just that he got bummed over the tech not being there for "entirety of japan gen 2" and kind of burnt out and just retired to upper management.
>>58628345So no proof?
>>58620478>It wasn’t lore. Some intern who only worked at game freak for a month or so anymore wrote a bunch of sex stories set in ancient Sinnoh but Game Freak did one thing right in their lives and rejected them for going again the spirit of the franchise and being too low quality anyway (yes they were that bad).
>>58625616“Scrapped background text” gives that shit more dignity than it deserves.
