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How do you feel about the official heights?
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IMAGINE
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>>58624353
Why are Calem and Serena so short? Aren't they supposed to be the oldest protagonists?
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>>58624448
This has never been said anywhere, people just assume they are older than Emma because they were taller and Mimi was afraid of adults (which only applied to Looker, never to the MC btw)
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>I'm half a foot taller than every one of these
How am I supposed to take these games seriously
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>>58624501
Anon...
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>>58624508
Wish I was that happy
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>>58624501
>measuring things using fucking feet
Freaky ass joke of a culture kek
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>>58624695
Imperial is way better for day to day use, metric is a lot better for scientific pursuits
t. physicist
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>>58624725
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA sure you are buddy
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>>58624728
Why is that so difficult for you to believe?
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>>58624353
>Green aka Gary
That's Blue, Green is Leaf
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>>58624744
This is Green, Gary Oak is Blue
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>>58624725
Better for everyday use WHERE.
Most people in metric counties use metric for everyday usage too. Even square metres.
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>>58624733
Anon even the losers that made you use that shitty system already changed to what the rest of the world uses. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but your country with people that think chocolate milk comes from brown cows or that don't know chips are made out potatoes isn't exactly the brightest, there's a reason why everyone uses metric when you step out the school shooting paradise.
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>>58624353
Where's Hilda and Hilbert, Trog?
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>>58624753
Despite repeating over and over again how good their shitty system is, americans actually have to use metric for some stuff like lightbulbs or bullets so they think they can come to an agreement with the rest of the world if they say imperialist is the best in general for everyday stuff and metric is the best for specialized stuff. Not only it doesn't work because metric is best in every single scenario, they basically say metric is the best when you use it kek
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>>58624744
>>58624747
(You)
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>>58624753
It's mainly in length and temperature.
Feet and inches are intuitive in the same way the antiquated unit of cubits are, they're based on common physical proportions of the person's body.
Fahrenheit is interesting, because by virtue of the units being more granular, native fahrenheit users actually are better able to discern temperature differences than celsius ones.
Something funny most people don't realize is that celsius is actually just as arbitrary as fahrenheit as a temperature system, if you want to be really anal about it, you'd use kelvin, or even more amusingly, rankine.
I will absolutely say that I prefer metric for measuring mass, volume, and certainly force.
For anything that actually involves calculation, I never use imperial.

>>58624759
I think that even if the US were to switch to metric, people conversationally would still use feet and yards.
I'm honestly glad I have an understanding of both. I personally do prefer metric just due to how it favors orders of magnitude propagation. The only system that truly mogs metric is natural units, but those are useless outside of quantum scale scenarios.
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>>58624786
Only to Japs, he's Green because Japs are color blind, everywhere else he's Blue
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>>58624786
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>>58624353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EgJWdZ3W-w
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>>58624790
I have never seen anybody refer to temperature in imperial. Everybody understands that the human body temperature is 36°. Everybody knows that weather past 20 °C is hard. Everybody knows how much is a metre and we even had the "1 and a half metre of distance" for COVID.
Nobody in the entire planet besides USA (and the weirdos at UK) uses imperial. The rest of the world has moved on.
>>58624782
Imperial and daylight saving are stupid. I hate USA thinking they can change the rules of the world.
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>>58624795
>the Pokémon character Green is only "Green" as far Pokémon creators go
... so he's Green.
Also no, it's not because random poltard delusions, it's because gen 1 games were "Red", "Green" and "Blue", then "Pikachu" but got localized as "Red" and "Blue" and then "Yellow". Green edition doesn't replace Blue edition in Japan, they are different.
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>>58624807
Celsius is not zero based though, it's offset from absolute zero. You can't hate fahrenheit for being arbitrary when celsius is as well.
Any meaningful temperature calculations are made with kelvin, not celsius.
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>>58624813
Well, Celsius is slightly less arbitrary than Farenheit.
But the real discussion here is the length measurements.

Degree of importance in which USA and UK should adapt ASAP.
Meters > Days > Temperature
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>>58624800
>this character called Green and represented by Green has an outfit with other colors therefore he's no longer called Green
Peak schizo moment. Specially since he wears green in his most recent appearance in the timeline.
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>>58624695
>>58624728
>>58624759
What sector of 4chan would suffer if every faggot from redd/int/ were to be banned from all other boards?
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>>58624818
Celsius was developed in part for early thermodynamics research. That research was largely a response to the development of steam power, so having it normalized for water was desirable.

Something very few people know is where the 0 and 100 on fahrenheit originated
0F was from a mixture of brine that was easily reproducible and had stable thermal properties
100F is the really funny one, it's calibrated off of the rectal temperature of a specific species of cow that was common at the time

Both were designed for scientific purposes initially.
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>>58624813
Celsius is based on the state of water, dumbass, zero is when it freezes, 100 is when boils. Water is the literal foundation of life, that's why it's logical and extremely handy for us to use unlike fahrenheit retarded "freezes at 32, boils at 212" nonsense literally no sane nation uses.
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>>58624807
The US is flipping off the rest of the world lmao. Everyone knows 62 degrees Fahrenheit fells like nobody knows what the fuck 16.7 Celsius feels like. Imagine using gay decimals to figure out what to wear when you leave your house. That's why your cars are advertised in miles per hour because the concept of 60 is normal average is a simple human concept in the power of 10 human world. 96 kph sounds like it's close to the max of 100. The world bows to america and our system.
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>>58624812
And that got retconned when they brought back the Leaf girl aka Green in the Kanto Reboot game with Gary being known as Blue

>>58624820
>Blue is wearing all Blue like how Red is wearing all Red
>"See, he's green, ignore him wearing all blue"
Him being blue is internationally known, no one cares about colorblind Japs, no one cares about Pokémon exclusive Jap Green, it's Pokémon Blue and Red for everyone
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>>58624834
>everybody (in my joke of a country) knows this, but nobody (in my joke of a country) knows that, that's why cars are advertised in miles (in my joke of a country)
Oh no no no no no no... Bros?
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>>58624835
>And that got retconned
Actually it's the other way around, despite selling Red and Blue outside Japan the entire world got remakes of Red and Green, and Blue was completely ignored. Kek, what a dumbass
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>>58624834
>The US is flipping off the rest of the world because... everybody in the USA uses our system. That means this system is the best globally somehow
Oh no... I have no argument for something as retarded as this!
>>58624843
It's so over, bro.
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>>58624852
No one is calling Gary Green except Japs, he's Blue worldwide while Green is Leaf, you can't change this no matter what you say
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>>58624835
>Red is wearing all red
Actually Red, Green and Blue all got to wear blue. In fact your own pic shows Red wearing red *and* blue , are you blind or just stupid?

>>58624851
>no see, he's still localized as Blue in non-canon versions
Yeah what the fuck are you even trying here, dumbass? Nobody has denied that. The localization could call him Mortimer for all I care
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>>58624872
>He's focusing on secondary colors to make himself right
>"Nuh uh, only the jap version is canon"
And the world doesn't care
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>he's named blue!
>he's named green!
He's named gary motherfucking oak you utter philistines.
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>>58624893
Nice projection but you are the one who mentioned their clothes (and lied saying Red wears "all red") first just because you can't handle them being canonically called Red and Green and being represented by the colors red and green.
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>>58624866
>the rival being called Green is canon but [ad populum fallacy]
Heh, yeah that's what I thought
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>>58624391
DUDE SEX AND COOMING AND GOONING AND JERKING IT AND PORN
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>but... but in MY home we use this poor system discarded even by the people who imposed it onto us, so that's the correct one!
>b-but in MY game he was localized with another color name even if he's canonically named something else!
Never reply to babies like this, they don't care about reason, they just want to justify their own experience and old, debunked belief as the norm. It's not about what is right or wrong, it's about what they are used to.
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>>58624829
>Water is the literal foundation of life, that's why it's logical and extremely handy for us to use
When you're talking about weather it's much more logical to use fahrenheit which has a wider range of relevant temperatures. It's 3x more precise.
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>>58624940
This but completely unironically
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>>58624958
>inb4 retard corrects you with it ackshually being 2.2x as precise
Bonus points if he doesn't know the difference between accuracy and precision
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>>58624958
Yeah, when you are talking about WEATHER there's no reason to use a system based on WATER. Americans can't use decimals so of course making the number bigger helps them understand things more easily, too kek
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>>58624921
>The Red Hat and Red Jacket are the focus on Red

>>58624925
>>58624948
Someday you'll learn that the rest of the world aren't weebs and aren't watch anime exclusively in Japaneses

You can cherry pick all you want, you'll nevr convince most people to call him Green
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The fun part is that Blue/Green/Gary/whatever doesn't even use blue clothes, he always used the color that makes more contrast with green, purple.
Even more obvious when gen 3 remade his design and kept the color palette of the clothes just with inverted order (from purple at the top and black at the bottom to black top and purple bottom)
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>>58624975
Back to focusing on clothes because you can't deal with the rival being represented with green, I see. Good boy.
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>>58624975
>aren't watch
>in Japaneses
>you'll nevr
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>>58625000
You're carrying a dead beaten horse up a hill at this point..
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Why is that this autistic shit only happens with Green/Blue? You see some people call Ash "Satoshi" here and there and nobody autistically tries to convince others the name got retconned and now is canonically "Ash" like in the localization
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>>58624391
the absolute mogging
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>>58624807
I'm an American and the month > day > year date format has pissed me off so bad ever since I was around 6 or 7.
It's just so blatantly wrong and painfully fucking retarded.
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>>58625196
It's specially retarded when there's still "4th of July"
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>>58625196
>tfw my birth month and day number are both 8 so I don't have to care
Get fucked loser
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why doesn't Nemona just eat the other protagonists? Is she stupid?
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>>58624992
Lavender is a shade of blue. Also you purposefully skipped the Gen 1 image where he blatantly wears blue.
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>>58624353
Raihan official heigh when?
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>>58625226
Anon, lavender is purple. It's similar to blue because it's the mix of red and blue, because that's what purple is you fucking retard.
And the pic you are talking to is still purple, the exact hue and saturation of his clothes change a little from one ilustration to other, but the fact his remake design swaps the order of colors and is more consistently purple proves it's intended to be fucking purple, that's why I put those two together, not because I wanted to hide something from you. He went from purple and black (gen 1) to black and purple (gen 3), to green and purple (gen 6) to black and green (gen 7), and at no point he has ever been associated with any color but green by Game Freak.
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>>58625264
We already have it, he's 195cm tall.
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>>58625195
Princess carrying Nemona while she princess carries Dawn.
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>>58624391
This was my only thought kek
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>>58625332
Ok I just checked the previous posts and should clarify I'm not the other anon(s). I got newly involved.
Lavender is both a shade of blue and purple (it's more blue than red). That gen 1 art seems tweaked a bit because that's not as purplish in the internet results I'm getting.
>he always used the color that makes more contrast with green, purple
Normally you don't colour-code characters by only including the contrasting colour, that's just plain stupid. Overall he'd been wearing colours closer to blue than green. Only in SM does he very obviously wear green.
Also should note that the Japanese names of protag and rival kept changing between red blue green yellow etc. in different Gen 1 versions. They settled that in Gen 2 with Red being Red in both JP and international, but rival being Green in JP and Blue in international. I think him being called Green feels weird in the sense that it gets the order in reverse with how Red and Rival choose their starters. Red is (for the most part) tied with Charizard and Rival chooses the counter so it is tied with Blastoise.
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>>58624790
>celsius is actually just as arbitrary as fahrenheit as a temperature system
for creatures that are 60% water and eat and cook things that are up to 90% water, using water as a 0-100 scale makes the most sense
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>>58625659
Spongebros... Not like this......
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remember: you're only one internet argument away from convincing the other country to use your system of measurements!
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>>58625573
Actually cute
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>>58625714
Nobody thinks amerifats will change their dumb ways just by exposing how stupid they are, anon.
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>>58625714
>remember: you're only one internet argument away from convincing the other country to use your system of measurements!
That but for the Green/Blue argument
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Also funny that the thread has been mostly about anything other than OP related
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>>58625760
The retard already gave up and changed his argument from
>they totally retconned Red and Green to Red and Blue bro
To
>okay it's Green but stop talking about the canon version so I can call him by the non-canon name
That said he already knew he was wrong so he clearly wasn't convinced, if anything he was forced to stop playing dumb
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>see the word "foot"
>immediately start shrieking about Americans and derail the thread
Why are third worlders like this?
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>>58625775
>Still going at it like a spoiled child because he has a superiority complex
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>>58624834
>>58624807
>everyone around me understands the measurement that the people around me use, so yours is inferior
You two need to get out more.
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>>58625812
Is that b-b-blue?!
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https://www.deviantart.com/zarxielzerg/art/Characters-heights-alternative-989202532
character heights in masters because most don’t have official heights
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>>58625827
Anon you can go to radically different cultures and everyone will still understand celsius, metric, etc. This isn't a tribalist dispute between Grug and Grog, this is Kuck vs the rest of the planet.
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>>58624353
I tower over all these midgets
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>>58625764
Despite what janitors would have you believe, off topic threads are always the best threads in a board. This is why /tv/ is the best board, because it’s incredibly easy to make off topic threads without the brooms being able to do anything about it
/tvb/ is real
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>>58624807
My house?
3200 sq foot
My height?
6'4"
My gf?
300+ lbs
My trugs mpg?
11
My care for europe?
Skin care is a scam
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>>58625895
>inconsistent gachashit
Yikes
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>>58624834
I’ve never needed to use Fahrenheit, miles, feet, or pounds in my life, so I’d hardly say any nation is bowing to America kek
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>>58625775
I've seen the same discussion at least 5 times here and always goes like that, first they claim they are Red and Blue and by the time it ends they change it to "hm okay they are Red and Green but we are talking in english so pretend they are Red and Blue in my presence"
Never fails
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>>58625833
"Green"s favourite song
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Oh great he's replying to himself because you won't fall for his third grader tier bait, wonderful.
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>Serena is shorter than Penny
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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Are you on Team Blue or Team Green?
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Can't we roughly calculate Paxton and Harmony height by comparing them with some pokemon? Like idk compare them to the average Machamp (160cm tall)
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>>58626212
I'm not autistic so I tend to use localized names unless I try to be "correct" and use the canon one
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Americans will unironically use units like grams per pound and call the rest of the world idiots
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I'm taller than Arven but shorter than Nemona. Tfw no gf that's taller than you.
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>>58626258
I thought americans used stuff like cups and bars of butter
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>>58624725
Imperial is retarded in every way and should never be used.
t. actual physicist
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>>58626270
Oh yeah? Name your 5 favorite digits of c then, POSER
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>>58626258
>imperial measurements are based on the human body
I have a human body, I can measure all things. Unlike troglodytes such as yourself (and fags (also like yourself))
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>>58626320
Good to know every human being has the same exact body with the same exact proportions kek
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>>58626336
It’s a literal rule of thumb you utter retard
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>>58626336
It's not my fault you beasts are misshapen and imperfect.
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Why are Indians incapable of shutting the fuck up about Americans?
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I would art that draws them all in a consistent artstyle so we don't have stuff like Calem and Serena appearing 175cm tall while they are shorter than Super Maria but damn that would cost a shitton in commisions
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>>58624353
>the tallest guy is shorter than the tallest girl
Based
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>>58624391
>10 year old boy vs 14 year old girl
That makes perfect sense though

>>58627085
girls start puberty before boys
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>>58624353
all of the girls are too short
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And not a single one that reaches the same primary measurement as me.
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>>58624353
Post Eri. She's like 6'5".
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>>58624353
>red is a manlet and could easily get the perfect hug from may
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>>58627604
>10yo
Fucking retard
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>That Giantess Nemona
So that's why she's so popular...
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>>58624353
Redbros.....Our goat is a midget!!!
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>>58624940
Hell yeah!
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>>58628838
If you think 5'7'' is giant you're a manlet.
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>>58627937
Fuck off macrofag
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>>58624500
because pokemon bases character mdoel height on age. Calem and serena are the same height as every generic teen npc and taller than a canonical teen and they tower over every single child like the youngsters and picnicers and bugcatchers.
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>>58630395
Reminder what?
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>>58624353
>official
lol
there's no chance game Serena is that short
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>>58628838
Nemona has less fanart than Rika and Iono
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>>58624353
>calem & serana
>4'11
aren't they meant to be around 16/17? they're already pretty tall in their art and models compared to the other MCs as well
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>>58624807
>(and the weirdos at UK)
the UK uses metric you retard
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>>58630505
>>58624500
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>thirdies need to use metric because they have to use their fingers to count and can't comprehend base 16 or base 12

If you have a problem with imperial it says more about you
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>he came back to insist how the whole world is wrong and only the people who think chocolate milk comes from brown cows is smart
Adorable.
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>>58630451
x&y and oras use the same model scaling and calem is taller than brendan
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>>58630594
As you can see by your own pic, they clearly don't, Brendan's potato face is different, and despite being shorter his hands are chubbier than Calem's. They aren't chibified the same way.
And none of that matters, we have their official heights already
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>>58630510
>claims to use metric
>still uses miles for ~~gasoline~~ PETROL
>>uses stones instead of KG for human weight
>uses feet/inches for human height
Either fully use metric or fuck off, you inbreds. At least you use the correct variant of English.
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>>58630657
those are the lass trainers from both games and they are the same height. Lass trainers are also meant to be older teen girls. Even if you think Calem and Serena were intended to be shorter than how they are portrayed in-game, you still have to admit they made them the same height as older teen NPCs because that's the age range they were imagined to be in.
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>>58630736
I never addressed how they look compared to random NPCs duh precisely because I see no reason to care when official heights have been given already
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>>58624391
yep...
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>Alakazam and Machoke are 1.50
>Brendan is 1.52
Now I have to compare Paxton to an average sized Machoke, it's gonna be funny if he's shorter than Brendan too
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>>58630819
Literally jusy went to catch a Machoke in the snowy wild zone and found a shiny Gogoat lmao
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>>58630831
Looks like he's about the same size as Brendan, if not a little taller so I will assume he's like 155cm or (given Machoke different posture here) even 160cm like Victor
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>>58630018
What's that? I just like tall women, anon
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>>58630784
it's always an outright indictment of the "official" measurements when they so blatantly contradict what is shown in-game. in every series. The game designers could have made calem and serena as small as or smaller than brendan and may but they didn't. they made them taller as an intentional choice.
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>>58631240
Anon different MCs from different games being inconsistently scaled is nothing to be surprised about specially in Pokemon, what's your point
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>>58631276
they aren't inconsistently scaled. it's an intentional choice how tall you make a character relative to the characters around them. Brendan and May as preteen are going to be taller than a child like a Youngster but shorter than a teen like a Lass. their age is communicated by the scaling. and in the same generation all of x and y's equivalent trainer stayed the same size.

And no matter how official you think htey are biographic heights should always be taken with a grain of salt. Everyone that plays fighting games knows bio heights and weights are a meme.

>Kasumi is supposedly 158cm
>Kula is supposedly 169cm
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>>58631771
>they aren't inconsistent it's just that... huh... heights are inconsistent, like in this coomer game
what
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>>58630864
I would say Paxton is 160 based on how tall he is compared to Akari
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>>58633162
>>58631771
>>58631276
The fact Calem and Serena were revealed to be 14yo in the teraleak is all info I need. If it was before the leak I would for sure think they fucked up because there's no way they are pretty much average sized for a Pokemon MC if they are like 16yo as we all assumed, but knowing they are 14? Nah the official height is fine, I would complain over the Arceus MCs but that was 150 years ago so I can see Akari being such a shortie
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>>58624800
>>58624820
I really wish Game Freak would have just went on with Satoshi and Shigeru instead of chickening out due to the anime so we wouldn't have to deal with this autism. I blame Special too.
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>>58633420
Same. But I gotta respect Special, if they are gonna name the first protags as the games at least the mangaka is commited to the idea instead of making the originals be the only ones without actual names
>inb4 Red is a real name!
Pokémon's Red isn't named after the british name Red, he's just copying the game's subtitle. Just like the gen 4 rival is called Pearl not because he's transgender and thought Pearl is a pretty name for a girl, but because gen 4 games were "Diamond" and "Pearl".
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>>58624864
illusen sexo
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>>58633420
If we in the west got Red/Green instead of Red/Blue this could've been avoided
It's especially weird in retrospect because FRLG is a thing
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>>58633489
No Kris height?
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>>58634599
Kris is 152cm (5'0"), which is the same as Lyra.
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>>58634599
Same as Lyra because they are the same character, bro. Just like Leaf and Blue (for loocalizers).
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>>58634684
Well yes and no. Lyra does take the place of Kris in Heart Gold & Soul Silver. However, Pokemon Masters recognizes them as separate characters.
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>>58634706
>gachashit
Nobody cares. They are the same character, anon, you know it, I know it, they know it, we all know it. Being given a redesign mostly from the scratch doesn't make her a new character.
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>>58634863
Are you stupid? Every piece of media, whether it would be games or merchandise give them different names, suggesting they are different characters. So it’s not just Pokemon Masters.
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>>58634948
>changing his argument already
Like I said, it's a Leaf-Blue(Green) situation, different names, same character. Your gachashit saying they are different is irrelevant.
And no, not every piece of media gives them different names, the manga didn't. Are you a liar or just a poor ignorant retard?
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>>58634863
The new design isn't even completely original at all, only the clothing is. People love to mention le blue hair as an argument too but Red and Brendan changed hair colors too so they really have nothing
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>>58635033
According to Takao Unno (the art director of HeartGold & SoulSilver, as well as the artist who made Lyra), when content from Crystal was being remade, he made Lyra without thinking about Kris’ design from that game. Meaning that in his mind, they are different characters design wise.
The Pokemon Adventures manga is the exception to this rule because they give every protagonist different names from their game counterparts. One Example is that Brendan is named Ruby. You are right about one thing, the manga treats Kris & Lyra as the same character, but at the same time, the manga is a separate continuity from the games.
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>>58635045
The situation with Ethan is not same as with Kris/Lyra). Takao Unno, who designed Lyra, stated that he redesigned Ethan to look more like ninja, while he made Lyra without having Kris’s Design in mind when Crystal’s content are being remade.
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>>58635128
>the redesign was made from the scratch!
As I said. Can you read?
>the exception..
The exception that proves you were wrong (or lying) when you said all media treats them as different characters, yes. I guess you can't even read your own posts.
>the manga is a separate continuity from the games
Everything that isn't the games is a separate continuity from the games, dumbass, even stuff more closely based on the games, like Pokemon Generations, isn't actually the same continuity. If you think you can use this to discard the part where you were exposed as a retard/liar then we can only look at the games. And guess what? In the games you either play gen 2 or play gen 4, and the way Ethan replaces "Gold" from gen 4 to gen 2 is the same as Lyra replaces "Kris".
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>>58635146
>he gave her completely new clothes so ignore he just made the same girl with another hair color, it's a coincidence!
kek sure
And another point for the Kris-Lyra thing being the same as with Green is that she still gets content where she's named Leaf when it's for the FRLG version, whose clothes were completely different from the ones she originally had. Meanwhile the one from LGPE keeps the Green (Blue in JP) name and a design actually taken from the original character they conceived for gen 1.
Green vs Leaf. OG design vs completely new one. LGPE vs FRLG. Different clothes, but clearly the same person with minor changes under them. If Kris and Lyra are completely different characters you may as well say Green and Leaf are different too (they aren't)
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>>58635199
>If a design is made from scratch, then it’s not a redesign.
Yes, it is, dumbass. If you take the same character with the same role in what is essentially the same game and give them a new design, even if it's not based on the previous one, then it's a redesign. Redesign doesn't have to mean "inspired by the original design", dumbass, it literally means "design again", nothing else.
>my point still stands as long I change it
You are so fucking dumb holy shit
>doesn't debunk my argument
It doesn't support it either, retardo, that's the point of that explanation. "The manga isn't the games so it doesn't count" isn't an argument because everything you are using as source isn't the games either. Your claim did nothing at all, supported nothing, debunked nothing, it's completely useless.
>I insist, Gold and Ethan and Kris and Lyra are the same protagonists in the same role in the same game doing the same things but only Gold got a modernized version of his original outfit so Gold and Ethan get to be the same person and Kris and Lyra don't haha
I wonder if you notice how stupid and insane this sounds and just prefer to play dumb like the dishonest bitch you have proven yourself to be or if you are genuinely too dumb to even notice.
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>>58635156
What does that mean? If a design is made from scratch then it’s not a redesign.

>The exception that proves you were wrong (or lying) when you said all media treats them as different characters, yes. I guess you can't even read your own posts.
I should have said with the exception of the manga, so my bad on that. However, my point still stands that every piece of media, except for the manga, give them different names.

>Everything that isn't the games is a separate continuity from the games, dumbass, even stuff more closely based on the games, like Pokemon Generations, isn't actually the same continuity.
You do realize this doesn’t debunk my argument right?

>If you think you can use this to discard the part where you were exposed as a retard/liar then we can only look at the games. And guess what? In the games you either play gen 2 or play gen 4, and the way Ethan replaces "Gold" from gen 4 to gen 2 is the same as Lyra replaces "Kris".
I didn’t lie, I just misspoke. Also again, the situation with Ethan is different from Kris/Lyra. Gold was the original name for Ethan and was renamed & redesigned for the remake. Lyra’s creator, Takao Unno, said that he designed her without thinking about Kris’s design debunking the claim that it’s a redesign made from scratch. Not comparable at all.
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>>58635245
You know what, this post shows that you don’t want have this discussion in good faith. I already said that I misspoke and yet, you still insist that I’m lying. If you have bothered to actually read my post, then you would know where I’m getting at. But obviously, you didn’t. I am not going to engage your ignorant self anymore. Go fuck yourself.
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>>58635355
>you are meant to me so I will pretend I have a counterargument but I just don't want to keep talking
Cool, you can use that time to learn what a redesign is, maybe you will be able to explain why the same character with different clothes means they are different people next time.
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>>58635431
Here’s the difference between a design made from scratch & a redesign since you don’t seem to know what a redesign is. Anyways, this is my last response for real this time. Bye.
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>>58635818
Is that fucking ai
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>>58635953
Yeah, and? The Ai actually picks an actual source from a website. On the site where the Ai got source from, it states that redesigning an existing product is different from designing a product with no prior history nor basis, which is what a design made from scratch is.
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>>58635953
>>58636038
Oh, and I forgot to mention. Here’s the website where the Ai got the source from.

https://helixdesign.com/tangents/new-product-design-vs-product-redesign/
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>>58636038
>Yeah, and
Fucking subhuman, never post again
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>>58636083
Did you even read the rest of the post? Also the image in that post is the source from the website.
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>>58636104
Quiet, AImbelice, posts are for humans capable to thinking.
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>>58636119
You know what? Fuck you. If you don’t want to engage with me, then stop posting. I’ll stop too. Goodbye and do not respond back.
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>>58624353
Crazy how Arven looks like a short king next to Nemona but he's basically as tall as Bede, both the tallest main characters if you remove Nemona.
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>>58637047
I mean 165cm is pretty short king status no matter how you put it. He looks older than Bede, too.
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>>58637055
I mean for kids. You play the game and compared to you Arven is a grown up who could shove you into a looker, he's a big boy compared to your average pokemon MC, it's when you see him next to Nemo that you see he's still short
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>>58624353
I height mog them all
>bro they're like 12
I height mogged them all at like 12
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>>58637587
Congratulations for being such a big boy.
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>>58637587
>I was way taller than 172cm as 12yo kid
You are going to die before your parents.
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>>58633293
Right one is hotter



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