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That's actually quite the clever design
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>>58635967
https://youtu.be/l3vQ8v6hsPY
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i warmed up to it after a while
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You know, at first I hated it, but after I learned it's based on something (especially something asian) I like it now.
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As a fan of symbols, I was quite pleased to learn that pyroar was based on a symbol. And the mega was even based on two symbols! I hope we can get Pokemon that even more closely resemble symbols in the future.
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>>58635989
yeah, it's pretty fire
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>>58635967
I get what point you're trying to make but at this point it feels like /vp/ will hate any design that is anything more than generic monster.
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no one tell OP what victini is based on
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>>58636243
you weren't supposed to point that out
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>>58635967
it can only be redeemed if they add a signature move called "blaze" that is a stronger fire blast and its animation makes the same symbol as its mane just like fire blast does with its normal form
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>>58636243
Which words are written on Victini's head?
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>>58636243
>This other thing is also shit which makes this shit not bad
Genuinly wonder how you function in society.
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Yoo dats fire, no cap
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>>58636395
glad we agree unova pokemon are ugly.
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>>58636327
To defeat Victini, just throw a rock at it. Rocks beat scissors.
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>>58636327
>Design based around a penis
What did Gamefreak mean by this
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>>58636327
Is this some subliminal message about Gen V being the best one?
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>>58636243
Does Victiny have victory directly written on its ears
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>>58636243
no one tell anon what unown is based on
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Why is it this gen specifically has caused /vp/ to have a meltdown at the slightest hint of something having an inspiration (regardless if the actual design in question is good or garbage)?
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>>58636749
Had to boil over eventually
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>>58636749
because the designs are so garbage you have more people baiting/actually stupid
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>>58636749
This started to make fun of pseudo-intellectual that started posturing about how anyone that criticizes a shit design only does so because they are "too dumb" to understand the reference or theme behind it. To be fair that's all nice, I like good designs with themes and references but they need to be good designs too. Inspiration is important but the execution must be good. Mega Feraligatr is a good example: literally a creatively bankrupt 1:1 copy and paste of another franchises gimmick with mininal original changes to fit feraligatr and so it looks like ass. Hell, it's not even about Feraligatr but Totodile and the model literally breaks to make the shit "inspiration" work.
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>>58636971
You don't know what 1:1 means.
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>>58636971
>literally a creatively bankrupt 1:1 copy and paste of another franchises gimmick
what
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>>58637021
Kamen Rider Revice. It's like 5 years old, and I guess someone on the dev team watched it during the chink flu lockdowns.
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>>58636980
Mega Feraligatr is an exact copy of this >>58637025 use your eyes.
They barely changed the base model and strapped this shit on. Negative effort
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>>58637031
It's not 1:1. Different execution. Revice has multiple people involvrd, which feraligatr does NOT do. It's compltely different. Just say you don't understand what inspiration works.
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>>58637034
Just say you are grasping at semantics to defend a trash design.
Lol that lanky kong ass design sucks so bad they need to give feraligatr 4 arms on the model.
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>>58637039
You can just say you don"t know what you're talling about and we can call it quits here hon, you don't know what you're talling about. Taking inspiration feom references is been in Pokemon since day 1.
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>>58636317
>>58636327
V for virgin
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>>58637069
not after I'm done with her
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>>58637025
>>58637031
Every image I'm looking up on this rider, he's teaming up with another guy in order to create this look. He's not walking around with a giant toilet lid hood like the mega everyone hates
They can't even do a Kamen Rider reference right.
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>>58637054
Yeah. The idea is unoriginal and the execution is ass. Glad we agree.
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>>58637084
The idea is inspiration from a source and executed in a different and novel way. You just didn't understand it, so your mad.
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The idea is fun. The execution is bad.
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it's growing on me
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>>58637096
the other wing says 14
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Fellas, what could an A-based pokemon look like? I feel like it would be fun and would grow on me for being based on the letter A
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>>58637118
jobmon based on all those companies that keep slapping more As at the beginning of their company name to get to the front of the phone book.
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>>58637118
Luvdisc
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>>58637118
The capital "A" from our Latin alphabet derives from the Phoenician aleph (𐤀) which itself derives from a glyph shaped like an ox's head (turn it upside down and you'll see the resemblance).
You can do the rest.
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>>58636749
People appreciate designs more when they have a nice idea behind it, so in some cases a meh or even bad design can be elevated to a decent one.
Now, a few genuinely schizophrenic autists don't understand the concept of subjective taste so when some people simply don't think the execution-concept gap of something is abysmal (and thus get to like the design later) but the schizos themselves do consider it so bad no neat idea can save it the two neurons in their brains come to the conclusion some people will just like anything as long it's based on something (which is extra retarded because everything is based on something).

Basically imagine if you got yourself a jacket you didn't like at first, but put it on and it was so warm and comfy you changed your mind and liked it now. Then some mentally ill fucker came and since he considers the jacket radically hideous he jokes over you liking it because it's warm, and says you must like anything at all as long it keeps you warm without any critical thinking. Some faggot with his head is so up his ass he thinks that if you don't consider the jacket unsalvagable, like he does, you must like anything no matter how trash, as long it's warm and considering nothing else.
>"hey anon did you know the shit I took a minute ago is still warm? Why don't you cover yoursef on it, it will grown on you lol"
It's just a bunch of miserable, mentally ill manchildren, they don't understand nor want to understand anything beyond their fixation on crying like little bitches, they feel superior for spending countless hours talking about how they don't like [thing], they have nothing else, so ignore and they will commit sudokku soon enough.
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>>58637211
>Some faggot with his head is so up his ass he thinks that if you don't consider the jacket unsalvagable, like he does, you must like anything no matter how trash, as long it's warm and considering nothing else.
>>"hey anon did you know the shit I took a minute ago is still warm? Why don't you cover yoursef on it, it will grown on you lol"
this is genuinely the most scarily accurate and clever analogy of a vp argument i have ever seen. it's honestly frightening
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>>58637034
>>58637054
ESL faggot detected.
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>>58637284
what is that fakemon? so stupid and blatant, gamefreak would never
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>>58637291
Anon....Unown Q is real. It's the only one, but it's real. Sorry.
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>>58637196
You mean that the letter A... is based on a thing? Wow, I love the alphabet now.
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>>58636243
Japanese apple rabbits?
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>>58637221
webmrel is every pokemon fan that "likes" the new games
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>>58637034
>it doesn't matter that it's a blue and red color scheme and the top part is a false crocodile head with the arms making up the bottom jaw, it's completely different from this Pokemon design that has a blue and red color scheme with a false crocodile head and arms making up the bottom jaw!
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>>58637419
this. though it's fine when the ultimate enemy of the game is a white and purple creature with a long tail that uses psychic powers, that is completely fine btw totally not frieza or giegue
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>>58636327
Wow, that's clever, it has a V in the name and is a V! It's even in Gen V! I bet they really thought long about this one!
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>>58637451
bravo masuda
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>>58637211
Holy run on sentences
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>>58636749
Before it was mostly just starters, as you couldn't just have a Pokemon be some vague mishmash of creatures to make something unique and now every starter's based directly on a specific thing, like Emboar being a Chinese warlord I forget the name of, or Incineroar being a heel wrestler. Or James Bond with finger guns. Or a siren mermaid (making male Primarina weird, and most being male.)

This gen in particular though, it's made worse because you've got designs that don't stand up on their own, like what the fuck's up with Pyroar's mane? It looks like shit and kills the gender differences.
Oh, it says "blaze" in Japanese, that makes it good now.
Feraligatr's stupid hood is dumb and sticks straight up, and the model has to be cheated for the gimmick to even work? Pshh, it's just a Kamen Rider reference, you wouldn't get it, pleb.
M-Starmie is lazy as hell like some rig swap in Smash and looks silly for some reason? Shut up, you just didn't watch that one Japanese show from the 90s (or whatever it's referring to, I forget.)

I don't think we've had a selection of Pokemon that lean THIS heavily on references before, where they're generally unappealing if you don't know the reference.
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>>58637531
>M-Starmie
Starmie's reference is, apparently, Starman.
Frankly, out of all of the potential references, that was the only correct one given the name and alien nature. The rest don't have any good connection.
Especially not Pyroar's, because Delphox is the one with the fire kanji motif, NOT Pyroar.
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>>58636749
Game Freak bootlickers have started defending ugly garbage like Mega Feraligatr just for having a concept behind it, like that isn't the lowest bar for a design to clear. The backlash towards that shit has attracted autists who can't understand nuance and think designs having a concept at all is now a bad thing.
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>>58635967
I'M COOOOOOONCEPTING
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>>58637531
>like what the fuck's up with Pyroar's mane? It looks like shit and kills the gender differences.
>was completely fine for Venusaur, Alakazam, Gyarados, Steelix, Scizor, Heracross, Houndoom, Blaziken, Medicham, Camerupt, Garchomp defaulting to male
>but Pyroar actually combining the two, no that is bad and kills it
eh
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>>58636243
>using a shitty old design as justification for a shitty new one to exist
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>>58637666
glad we agree unova pokemon are ugly.
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>>58637118
holy shit that's an amazing design
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>>58637661
All those Pokémon you listed have incredibly small gender differences
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>>58637661
I knew Garchomp had gender differences but I was unaware that the rest did too.
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>>58636749
Mega Feraligatr
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>>58636327
I JUST LOST THE GAME
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>>58637034
Why do latinx love toiletgatr?
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>>58637661
Well yes because those other gender differences are basically a game of seek and find. You really have to look and directly compare to figure out what the difference is supposed to be.
Female pyroar is missing the main fucking feature from male pyroar
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>>58636971
Honestly, the design would still be shit even without the reference.
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>>58636239
Hi newfag, back to gimmighoul land with you
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>>58636749
Once upon a time Pokemon designs could be appealing without having to know what they reference.
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>>58635989
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>>58636008
Ik vp gets a lot of flak but it easily has the funniest inside jokes of any board
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>>58637590
>The backlash towards that shit has attracted autists who can't understand nuance and think designs having a concept at all is now a bad thing.
Except the joke here is that the concept behind Pyroar doesn't make it any less of a boring design
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>>58637661
>female Pyroar has almost no mane
>male Pyroar has a huge mane
>female M-Pyroar has a giant-ass stupid mane solely to keep the "blaze symbol" gimmick of the Mega that wouldn't work if it kept the female design
>this is somehow equal to more subtle gender differences like a horn being slightly longer than it's supposed to be
Nigga, just because you're on 4chan doesn't mean you HAVE to bait, newfag.
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>>58637590
>The backlash towards that shit has attracted autists who can't understand nuance and think designs having a concept at all is now a bad thing.
no, we're just ridiculing people who claim it being reference alone is enough to justify the design. Parody via hyperbole.



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