Amber Canyon Life Support EditionWhat is Pokémon Sleep?Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.FAQ:>How do Shinies work?If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, you only need to feed it a single Poké Biscuit to befriend it.>What should I spend my diamonds on?Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, only get half of max for items and max 100 for Pokémon.>When should I use my items?When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.>What should I spend my sleep points on?Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?Nope! Pokémon retain the level of progress they were at the last time you fed them.>How do dream clusters work?The higher your research rank, the more you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.>Official Pageshttps://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/>Unofficial Wiki[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.https://pks.raenonx.cc/en>Alternative Calculatorhttps://nerolislab.com/>Simple Candy Calculatorhttps://candy.blspnm.com**For safety, back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. Or at least copy your Support ID from the Pokémon Sleep launch screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**Previous >>58579370
im not really finding amber canyon interesting, maybe once more exclusives get added. the avocado meals being so large makes them irrelevant to my weekly play
Wondering if I should check for better Trapinch's, this is my sixth one.Also Bagon's 'Fallen Sleep' style is kinda funny to think about. I love how it matches the sleepdex text.
7830-3857-1731Still have 3 slots open
>>58644267The current event is diluting the Amber Canyon spawns, but there's stuff like Mudkip, Larvitar, Rufflet, Happiny, Torchic, Pumpkaboo, Pinsir, and Heracross that are of interest if you still need them.Plus just that Bagon is a top-priority since it's one of the strongest neutral berry gatherers, and a big upgrade over Altaria.>>58644274I'd keep looking personally. There are better bean farmers, although an ABC Flygon happens to gather three of the four ingredients needed for the new top-tier Guacamole salad.On the other hand, AAC Flygon (avocados and beans) and AAB/ABB Dragonite (herbs and corn) is everything you need for lots of Guacamole.It's a very workable Trapinch, but the preference for mono-avocado is still stronger.
Friendship level 4, thank goodness I saved a mint
Time to get those Darkrai pips. Honestly I'm not even sure if I would use another seed unless I also got another as backup. Though I suppose only Ingredient Finder would make actually make it worse than it is currently. >>58644774Nice. Sucks about the extra other sub and nature not doing anything, but those 1 ships tend to cancel out any other downsides.
>>58644267Amber Canyon's spawns are actually crazy. It basically has every new Pokemon that was introduced in the past year and very little filler that's everpresent on every other island. It's arguably even better than Expert despite some missing holes.
>>58644096>crit on the last needed biscuitevery fucking time
>>58646796my first like 3 bagons were bonus biscuit -> poke biscuit -> full with one pip remainingso i had to just look at the fucker and wait till the next day
>>58646829For whatever reason, I haven't had a Pokémon get full on the second feeding in a long while.That's ahead of the New Moon event, too.Makes me wonder if they realised that mechanic was costing them in biscuit sales.
Gotta love when my retarded piece of shit ingredients potato farmer with beneficial subs can go 4+ hours (with me checking halfway through) and collect only 2 potatoes and maybe 15 berries while over 100% energy the entire time. Another shite meal instead of petal blizzard salad because of this faggot.
Parts of the world waking up to November 21st already.Guess there's genuinely no Eevee event, at least on the day-of? Otherwise next week is just a gap week.
>>58648327Das itThis is about what I was expecting, but the post is so sparse that I'm more inclined to believe that they just didn't plan for it. This is the first time with the hand off from Select Button to whatever the TPC sub-comany is called.
>>58648762>This is the first time with the hand off from Select Button to whatever the TPC sub-comany is calledAbout that, there was a Famitsu interview this month where it was stated that the transition is still in progress, among other things.
>>58647967Are you using a Meowscarda? Because I have one for milk and it always makes me think I'd be better off with one with BFS
>>58648762Heck, I'll take the sleep points. I've been buying way more biscuits than I used to.Reminds me the anon complaining that their sleep points didn't end in a perfect 00 because of receiving 1224/1225 sleep points as a holiday gift.
>Accidentaly select a smaller dish>it's extra tasty
>>58647869it was just a bad streak, but it is always a bad feeling getting a full pokemon with 1 pip left
Man GG is unimpressive this week, its about one event spawn a day. Got a pretty ok dwebble today I guess though.
>>58651535Canyon definitely is working very well, I get like at least 3 of the boosted mons every day.
What do you guys think about these? Not sure if any of them are good enough to settle for.
Haven't seen a bagon at AC all week
>>58651945i would use the trapinch due to speed, space, and mono avacado. Keep bagon in case you don't find a better one.
>>58651945The mono dwebble is actually pretty good, gets you about 85 avocado a day on average which the meta call atm is only 84
dwebble is a skill or ingredient mon?I know the skill is a random ingredient drop but does it need skill triggers and speed?
Can someone convince me that this no bfs no ing up boy wasn’t a bad investment
>>58652177Yes it's still a Skill specialist. Ideally, you have Skill Trigger M, Helping Speed M, and a skill up nature. With a few exceptions, most Skill specialists all want this same set. You really only want ingredient skills on Ingredient specialists because they have bonus quantities when they actually pick up ingredients.
>>58652358>You really only want ingredient skills on Ingredient specialists because they have bonus quantities when they actually pick up ingredients.Not only that, but the hidden base stats for skill triggers and ingredient gathering matter.Ingredient Finder M boosts that hidden stat by 36%, so the effect is most significant on species with higher base ingredient gathering rates.It turns out that Crustle's ingredient gathering rate is significantly higher than Flygon's, but since it doesn't have ingredient specialist quantities it can't compete. Flygon is also significantly faster.
>>58652473Forgot pic related
>>58649403Close. I'm using Floragato because I was trying to match berries one week on expert Greengrass while also getting potatoes. I was contemplating evolving it, but now you're making me reconsider using it at all. I don't have another aab potato farmer unfortunately.
>>58652629Honestly I don't think Mewoscarada is bad by any means, but mine is basically perfect and AAA so I'm probably biased.
Manifesting hungry pokemon tomorrow morning
It would help getting seeds more frequently, but I was very lucky.
>>58652865Well at least we get help with the guaranteed +3 each meeting now. I have my next one set to auto-capture on sight, but I'm still debating whether I would wait for the level 60 ingredient slot before trying a level 50 skill.
>>58653049Darkrai's ingredient performance is nothing remarkable in any configuration, so I'd just roll for subskill 50.Either Skill Trigger M or Helping Bonus would be a boon for it.
>>58652865i curse you with unlocking helping speed M at 100>>58653049i curse you with unlocking helping bonus at 100
>>58652865Jeez I’ve just been ignoring darkrais, I’d rather get 4-5 easy captures than put all that work in for ingredient finder s
Hello, Big Bird.Surprisingly usable especially for a shiny. Wish it actually had BFS instead, but I currently don't have the resources to train this one up even if I wanted to.
This with a subskill seed for helping speed, might be worth it?
>>58653969That's not how Eureka Seeds work, buddy.>>58654048Being locked out of Skill Trigger M until 100 is unfortunate, but that's otherwise an ideal spread.>>58654260100% worth it, it's got three of the best things by level 25; Helping Speed, BFS, and EXP^^ nature.It doesn't have much past that, but it's plenty good enough.
>>58654260>BFS>arguably best ingredient spread>beneficial nature>Helping Speed M available>not rittled with Ingredient FinderThe only things that would make it better are a helping speed nature and Helping Bonus, but chances of actually getting either of those in a combination better than your own is incredibly slim.
litcherally not even seen one single bagon or trapinch all week rng? more like rng (where all the words in the initialism is a slur)
>>58655104Separate to that anon, this was the second Bagon I got.I'm going all in with it and candy boosting it during the packed portions event.>>58655459I've seen several of each, but my strength gains and sleep scores have been good enough to reach Amber Canyon Master 3 at 0% sleep score last week, and again at 5% this week.What sort of scores are you pulling, and on what island?
>>58655459I got about 5 so far, across both weeks on Amber Canyon. Even if your score is really low though, I don't see that happening unless you're on Greengrass for this week. And if you are, then missing out on these Pokemon isn't such a big deal because you'll be low on candies until you can encounter them normally anyways.
>>58656096Very cute pic but>Absol's sprite is flippedWhy can't anyone do right by my bro
>>58656096How many pokemon are in the game?
>>58656670Most Pokemon are completely symmetrical, but turns out there are more than I thought that aren't. In which case, they require a separate sprite for right-facing, as left-facing is default. Most of the non-symmetrical ones are already left-facing, but there's still Croconaw, the Togepi line, Darkrai, and Leafeon I think.
Okay I know bfs isn’t great on helpers but: bfs helping speed skill trigger. Good enough?
>>58657549Anon that's an ingredient specialist with an ingredient hindering nature.Skill trigger doesn't do anything for the Chansey family, their base skill chance is too low and they can't bank a second skill trigger like skill specialists.
>>58657549>>58657602Also whatever you meant by "BFS isn't great on helpers", BFS is universally good.It's near-mandatory for berry specialists.For ingredient specialists, it balances them into generalists per berry-type, great for specific islands or expert greengrass, and can pair well with ABC ingredient spreads so they can provide lots of berries and diverse ingredients.For skill specialists, it can penalise their skill trigger roll to an extent, but the overall strength gains can counteract that, and some synergies can emerge such as Raikou, Dedenne, and Pawmot having BFS to maximise the effects of Raikou's helper boost.Any BFS ingredient or skill specialist wants at least one Inventory Up skill to offset the increased berry gathering, it then becomes a non-issue and their overall performance is just better than a non-BFS helper with equivalent ingredient gathering/skill trigger chances.
>>58657602Oh shit I thought it was a skill non this whole time, that’s a bummer
>>58657652Yeah it's the one Energy for Everyone S user that is not a skill specialist, and unfortunately it's not viable to try and run it like one.Blissey's ABC spread isn't particularly desirable since there aren't many recipes that call for eggs, but also need potatoes.Whereas honey, there's already lots of things that gather honey well and can do a better job of it.Mono-egg Blissey is the goal.
Wow, hungry Bagon AND Larvitar? What a trea-
I put Dedenne on my team yesterday after cooking dinner.It somehow has gotten a single skill proc in 23 hours, what the fuck.Lunch at 5:30pm still managed to crit despite only being +30% overall.I sure hope it doesn't blueball me because I don't cook Sunday dinner until bedtime now.>>58658246At least it's +1 to friendship badges
Unfortunately this seems to be the best I've got so far, but I have no desire for more Herbs because of my Dragonite.
>>58654573>>58655104apparently this one's better?
>>58659682That's a damned fantastic Bagon, BFS+HB at 50.Starting with BFS is preferable, but it'll be well worth the investment.
Where you guys going this week?
Wow it's fucking nothing unless they are planning on buffing the trigger rate so much that it turns into something like Slaking.
>>58660310It'll be just enough to match the previous average output, which means it'll probably be a fraction of an activation. Always a little weird when they give these unique skills to Pokemon that can barely even use them.
Also there's this, so it's possible to get over the cap of 11x Pokemon in a single research.
>>58660502Also means a slot won't be completely wasted by Darkrai. Just your points.
>>58660502>>58660601Actually, wtf am I talking about? The limit per research is only now just becoming 11x (Pokemon Incense + Good Camp Ticket + Special Appearance Encounter). The reduction of rewards only refers to if you take an extra sleep session, and makes an exception if you get Darkrai (or any future Special Appearance Encounter). Note that Darkrai can only be obtained on the first sleep session of any day, too.In addition, there's also the possibility of it turning into an isolated roll so that you can actually get a normal night's research with Darkrai purely as a bonus.
>>58660310I had an idea similar to this in a thread ages back, though it was with Alcremie and what its main skill should be.>>58660502This is good, and can only be interpreted as such. It may even result in Darkrai appearing more frequently, if its special appearance rate is no longer tied to the player's drowsy power (or how it's divided up across your 4-8 spawns).
J U S TUST
>>58660217Back to Amber Canyon.I can consistently hit Master 3, and I want to keep hunting for a mono-avocado Trapinch and earn Bagon candies.It'll probably be the only place I visit for a long while until there's an event that tells me to go somewhere specific.
>>58659868from the looks of it, the one with Helping Bonus ends up stronger but it needs lv50 to reach BFS, which requires a lot more resourcesthe one with early BFS, exp up and helping speed M beats it out at lv30I think I could spend some resources on the first one until lv30 for more inmediate gains, then gather enough candy to level up the second while at it
>>58660217Tundra, I'll just keep bouncing between Tundra, OGPP and GGEX, as I'm still looking for a Murkrow. I did manage to hit M3 both weeks in AC so I'm not too pressed to hunt for a Bagon and I already caught a relatively decent Avocado farmer.
>>58661571Honestly you don't really need the calculator to figure that much out, the Jolly one has a single speed boost whilst the Naughty one gets two speed boosts (of which one boosts the whole team).Bare in mind that Shelgon evolves into Salamance at level 38, you're not getting a lower level Salamence without befriending it already evolved. Otherwise it's not a bad idea to get a running start, I've had similar with a pair of Raichu and Meganium where the second befriended was a better performer overall, and you can still run both when needed.
>>58661571Even if it does have EXP up, that's a pretty significant investment that you could just put into the other one. The one you're using will also absorb any sleep EXP, easing the burden in that respect.
>>58660853thats exactly the spread i want, i already have a cracked dwebble for my avo needs. save it for me when trading happens
>>58662619the issue is that the other one has BFS at lv50, which requires a massive investment before it starts becoming better than the first optioncould just level up the first one and use it meanwhile in amber canyon
I played from release in 2023 solid for 8 months and just reinstalled yesterday.What are the big changes?
>>58663544Like I said, that's a massive investment for something that you plan on replacing. Close to 1,000 candies that you'll have to spend again for the one that you actually want to focus on. I don't think the third berry of temporary power is really worth postponing the actual goal, even moreso since berry power is so strongly tied to Pokemon level. Who cares if it's not stronger right away? Pseudos are intended for investment.>>58663619Probably the introduction of several islands, over a dozen evolution lines, and legendaries/mythicals. The gameplay hasn't really changed.
Aside from E4E and the legendaries, what would be the top priority pokemon to use skill seeds on?
need some more friends - get in her bruvs
Trying to decide if this is worth investing in for a longish term oil farmer. Its just IFS and HSM without the ability to seed the IFS, but maybe it's good enough for most things
Pokemon I Sure Fucking Wish I Could Sleep
>>58664070Assuming you get good rolls, there aren't really any skill that you really need on any team except E4E. But among the rest these are probably the strongest skills:1. Tasty Chance2. Berry Burst3. Charge StrengthIngredient Magnet is also really strong utility for grabbing all sorts of random ingredients you normally don't have great access to. And I've always wanted to use Metronome and Skill Copy, but the latter is purely luxury. Extra Helpful is theoretically one of the strongest scaling skills, but it doesn't actually benefit that much from individual skill levels.
>>58664070Dedenne, 100% a good Dedenne.Extra Tasty Chance stacking is crazy strong when like a third of your meals get 2x strength, 3x for Sunday crits.Trouble is getting a good Dedenne, it's a 16-pip encounter.
>>58664381this is my current best dedenne, though it doesn't seem super great to invest
>>58663937Are nature mints a thing?
Are berries even meta anymore or should I be focusing on ingredients and cooking now?
>>58665043the meta is mixed teams, minimize team slots to make strong meals, fill the rest with berries, charge strength, and/or dream shard farmers until the holiday event
>>58665112Rog
>>58665034Only a neutralizing one, and we've only gotten two to this day, but I'm betting we'll get one or two more for Christmas.
>>58664831Yeah, I'd also keep going.It's still pretty if you literally can't get another one, it has a near-maximum skill trigger rate but zero speed bonuses. The high inventory on the other hand helps with overnight performance.
Maintenance in about 3 hours. You may have to feed dinner early and set your sleeping team, since you won't be able to access them for several hours.
How do you guys prepare for a meal week like the upcoming one? I find it so hard to prepare because you don't know if you're going to get Curries/Salads/Desserts.Since I got desserts this week and I'll have 2 travel tickets, it's figured I could at least narrow it down to either Salads or Curries, so I used deepseek to try to come up with a stockpiling strategy.The final result was that by stockpiling these ingredients in these quantities, I can make at least 5 of the best meals right away and use some leftovers afterwards. I told the AI to consider which ingredients I had an easier time farming and which were harder.I think this might be pretty solid, it only covers around two days of meals but hopefully I can then keep up for the rest of the week with that buffer.Excuse the shitty pic.
>>58666664I just want to make new dishes. My bottlenecks are avocado and potatoes considering all possible ingredients. So I am stockpiling those this week. Likely will have 200 of each. If I don't roll curry then I have 200 fodder with potatoes. Idk if AI really understands unless you feed it your outputs from ingredient teams. Tomato for example seems useless to stock if you have a good mon. Coffee too if you have a minun/plusle and get 6x30 coffee a day.
Every time I check in on the game to make supper and am greeted by the maintenance message, I get butthurt.
>>58666664Aside from filling up my ingredient stockpile with a roughly even distribution of my less common ingredients, nothing. Unless you can gather those ingredients consistently enough to not need a stockpile in the first place, you only get a handful of meals outside of your normal range anyways. The more important part will be that you have enough ingredient output to fill the pot each meal through the entire week. I mainly have to decide whether it would be worth to try for another M20 on a different island, or to try and take advantage of the spawns, because just pushing ranks on AC or Expert won't really matter.
>>58666989Yeah like I said I did tell it to consider which ingredients I had an easier or harder time to get. Literally all my good Victreebel/Abomasnow/Mr. Mime/Dugtrio have been A/B/X, so I suck at tomatoes.
>>58666664I only plan around the ingredients that I can readily stockpile, which is primarily corn, mushrooms, herbs, coffee, milk, sausages, beans and to a small extent cacao and leeks.I'm lacking ideal options for tomatoes, eggs, and oil, and have nothing for pumpkins and avocados right now.For my Amber Canyon visits, it's emerged that Dizzy Punch Spicy Curries are a convenient option since they only need 11 herbs, 11 coffee, 11 honey. My Dragonite, Vikavolt, and Butterfree can provide those, with lots of other things providing honey like my Meganium (stand-in for my eventual Salamence), or a good Pinsir I could power up.As for the Packed Portions event next week, don't forget that both ingredient specialists, and Ingredient Magnet/Draw S users are buffed, gathering greater quantities than normal.Got a good Vaporeon or Heracross ready? They'll perform great next week.
The candy from Present didn't seem to change with level, and you do get a significant amount fewer ingredients per activation compared to the standard version. I hope they gave Delibird at least a full activation in compensation.
>>58669009Didn't know there was a 9,999 candy cap per species.Pokémon Go doesn't limit that, someone has 100,000 Murkrow candies on Go.Considering the steep EXP curve after level 50, it's possible that 9,999 candies from level 1 to 100 might not be enough.
Ohhh, we're getting spiritomb because it's the 109th pokemon line in the gameClever move
>>58669995I feel like this is the first time the limit has actually been described. It should be really easy to add an extra digit though.I used a bunch of Pikachu candies every time the Cram-o-matic was up, so I must have had at least 500 more candies than I have now.
I pray every night that I'll wake up to a good Bagon...
I pray every night that I don't wake up
I forgot to buy the Bagon incense pack, so now I'm running dangerously low on biscuits again.
>>58672788I need the month to roll over so I can feed my premium and a great to a hungry spiritomb and get mad as it all fulls with one pip left
>>58670002If you're going by "final evolution stage" on the Raenonx Pokédex that's not really accurate.That 109 count includes species with variants like Pikachu, Eevee, Toxtricity, Wooper, Vulpix, Ninetales, and the four sizes of Gourgeist.
Apparently I've found more mushrooms than ginger or honey. Herbs at 27k+
>>5867374213,099 Mushrooms myself, my Gengar is amazing at gathering them, but I've gathered more honey (16k) and more ginger (18k).My top ingredients are 20k apples and 20k corn, with apples only having a lead of 98.
Post your highest-leveled badges and numbers for single-stagers or shiny hunt targets, I want to the worst you've got
>>58674661I don't even bother feeding single-stagers most of the time unless they're hungry.
>>58664377man, I really do want them to revisit Umbreon's skill. Self-energy spam is so fucking retarded for a skill type if you can't do anything with the excess.
>>58675515"Critical hit" skill activations is a good concept, but Umbreon's moonlight skill makes no sense for it when the meaningful effect is the critical one.
So this motherfucker is going to show up and be boosted on Greengrass, Snowdrop, Lapis, Amber, and Expert.And then you have this list of other random boosted Pokemon: Diglett, Bellsprout, Geodude, Farfetch’d,Kangaskhan, Ditto, Wooper, Wooper (Paldean Form),Larvitar, Mawile, Absol, Shinx,Mime Jr., Croagunk, Snover, Pumpkaboo,Grubbin, Stufful, Comfey, Cramorant,and Quaxly.A lot of the listed Pokemon for each area are single-stagers, so nowhere looks particularly great if you're just looking for spawns.
>>58677194They're all ingredient specialists, the event focus is cooking meals.I should consider going somewhere other than Amber Canyon; you can't find Farfetch'd there, and Trapinch is not boosted.
>>58677245I know they're all ingredient specialists, but just the selection is odd and somewhat random. I guess they managed to get at least 1 Pokemon that's limited in each area and compared to last time, boosts seem much more spread out.Here are the last event's Pokemon boosts for reference:Launched with: MawileOther boosts: Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Gastly,Pinsir, Eevee, Dratini, Wooper,Murkrow, Aron, Heracross, Delibird,Happiny, Sprigatito, and Fuecoco.
>>58677245>Trapinch is not boostedEvery day. Every day this game fucks with me and my patience. 6/10 I've befriended have either been ingredient down or ingredient up but ABC.
>>58677194>>58677407It's not random, they specialize in the opposite half of ingredients from the last Packed Portion Event>Packed Portion 1: Apples/Honey/Milk/Sausage/Herb/Egg/Potato/Mushroom>Packed Portion 2: Beans/Ginger/Leeks/Tomato/Cacao/Oil/Corn/Coffee/Pumpkin
>>58677194>Trapinch and Grubbin not boostedFuck's sake. Also why isn't Spiritomb at OGPP? I know it's labeled as a Dark type, but it's an actual ghost too. No idea where to go for this, but I need better typal Ing mons for AC.
Got a shiny Trapinch (on new moon day but couldn't post until now)
>>58677245>nowhere looks particularly great if you're just looking for spawnsyou could possibly make an argument about area bonus shenanigans meaning that GGE is worth while. there's no way to improve GGE without going there, so taking occasional weeks of GGE now will improve your results in later events,but if there is some like christmas event that basically forces snowdrop, that area bonus will get shared with ACalso you can only hold a few expert tickets, you can't just stock up, so you may as well use like one a month that you can get from sleep points
I actually haven't really tried Expert yet, went there once or twice but had bad berry spreads so I ticketed to another island. Just worried it would be a waste of a week where I make basically no progress.
>>58678343Grubbin is boosted though, not Dwebble however. And a lot of Pokemon don't show up on islands that favor their berries. In Spiritomb's case, it's like a tombstone. It makes sense in more desolate areas rather than a powerplant. Don't ask me about Cramorant on Snowdrop instead of Lakeside though.>>58678861Well with no area bonus, you're basically always just going to waste the week regardless of what berries or bonuses you roll. And ticketing off is just a bigger waste of resources at that point. May as well have just stuck around so that you could do better on your next visit.
Man I just can't decide where to go next week. Not knowing what spiritomb does makes it harder, even if it being inevitably a 16 pip makes it less worth considering.
>>58678954Huh, I must have missed Grubbin in the list. I guess the tombstone thing makes sense.
>>58679376I'm thinking about Snowdrop since I haven't M20'd there yet but I'd also like to go somewhere with Larvitars since I've yet to find one I want to train up. That mainly leaves Amber and Expert, meaning only a limited use of the extra cooking power. Expert could actually prove to be very difficult, because if you don't get the right berries and the ingredient bonus, you might struggle to make meals. Amber might be the safest bet for me.
>tfw ran out of biscuits and diamonds before end of month, so won't use a Good Camp Ticket for the Ing event because I know that if I do I will run out of biscuits before the end of the month again
Realistically what level berry specialist(s?) do I need to consistently hit M3 in amber canyon? My level 30 Butterfree and Altaria couldn't hit Master 1 last time.
>>58680205My team comfortably hit past M3 without area bonus, but it has a level 65 Dragonite, Altaria, and a 55-ish Arbok. I think you could do it with 2 level 60 berry farmers and good recipes for every meal and Sunday Crits always help a lot, but those aren't consistent. Mind you, Dragon, Bug, and Poison berry farmers are actually asking the weakest farmers, save Bagon now.
>>58678754With the recent area bonus cap increase to 85%, it's likely that you can increase your area bonus at every map if you stuck to Amber Canyon like I have.Everywhere else except GGEX was and still is at 75%.As for Expert Tickets, I'm already holding the maximum of 2, and can't purchase another one this month since Monday lands on December 1st.That's a reminder to buy Sleep Exchange stock before the new month by the way. I'm tempted to buy the remaining 5 Poké Biscuits in the regular exchange.>>58680205I've been able to hit Amber Canyon Master 3 consistently with 0% area bonus with this kind of team:>Lv. 60+ BFS ABC Gardevoir or AAC Pawmot>Lv. 50 BFS AAC Butterfree>Lv. 62. BFS+HB ABC Meganium or BFS ABC Raichu>Lv. 54 AAA Dragonite (near-max Ingredient rate)>Lv. 61 BFS AAA Vikavolt>Extra: Go Plus+ Sleeping Cap PIkachu (extra source of apples, honey, cacao)On curries weeks, I'm able to consistently make "Dizzy Punch" Spicy Curries throughout the week, and gradually work towards strong recipes for the weekend.I was able to make three "Inferno" Corn Keema Curries this Saturday, and will able to make three "Cut" Sukiyaki Curries on Sunday, thanks to the leeks my Gardevoir and Meganium gather, and stockpiled eggs from my Pawmot.I also have my BFS Dedenne on duty now to try and maximise extra tasty Sunday cooking. I'm already at Master 1 on Saturday evening with just a 10% area bonus, so I should comfortably hit Master 3 even with unsuccessful cooking.Last week was desserts, so I swapped in Pawmot and Raichu since they help gather some extra cacao, eggs, ginger, and apples.This is important, if you have level 60+ BFS berry specialists, USE THEM, they still deliver great performance in lieu of level 30+ favorite berry BFS specialists.Butterfree's bug type berries are the weakest in the game, so its level 50 berries can be beaten by a good Raichu or Meganium's level 60 berries. Butterfree's main advantage is how common Caterpie candies are.
>>58680894Some more to add.My mono herb Dragonite is great for pot filler, something that is more relevant with the recent cooking pot increase from 69 to 81 (78 personally).I will swap it out if I need an ingredient farmer for something important though, I needed my mono sausage Aggron for this weekend's meals.I got extremely lucky with a superb Bagon on the first week, which I'm candy boosting next week. Shelgon evolves into Salamence at level 38, and will be ready for Amber Canyon at that low of a level thanks to how damn strong dragon berries are (the reason I wanted a BFS Dratini for ages but couldn't find one).
>>58680775>>58680894>>58680928Thank you for the insight. I do have a 55 Raichu and almost maxed out Pawmot that goes with me almost everywhere.
Boulevard of broken dreams.Aside from Eevees, I only used a Ralts out of these.
>>58680894>I also have my BFS Dedenne on duty now to try and maximise extra tasty Sunday cooking.No crits on Sunday Breakfast or Lunch, fuck.Odds were 40% and 60%, all I can do is try for 100% before bedtime for a guaranteed crit.
Do you guys release your shinies? It might be time for me to start.
Where are you going next week?Here's an infographic for event spawns.Spiritomb only appears at Greengrass (+expert), Snowdrop, Lapis, and Amber.GGEX looks to have the most attractive spawns, removing Diglett, Geodude, Bellsprout, Kantonian Wooper, and Croagunk from the encounter pool.It does however have 8 single-stage species with 16 pips. This event is going to demand a lot of biscuits, so consider using a GCT for a guaranteed hungry spawn.GGEX may make it harder for ingredient specialists to perform well, too. Helping speed penalties may counteract the +1 ingredients for ingredient specialists, or 1.5x ingredients gathered for the Ingredient Magnet S / Ingredient Draw S main skills.We also have Good Sleep Day falling on the 4th, 5th, and 6th next week.
>>58683563Also, here are next week's event missions.108 favourite berries for a Spiritomb incense is nice and easy.Ultra 1 for 5x Poké Biscuits is also great.7 incenses for one Friend Incense in return is probably a bad deal, unless you want to use a lot of Friend Incenses to try and get hungry single-stagers.
>>58683430Always, I release all shitmons. As a result I only have like 3 shinies on my account.
>>58683563Going to GGEX, hopefully I can get some good berry rolls.
>>58683563I think I might go to Snowdrop or even push my luck at Lapis and try for M20. The boosted spawns are a bit iffy with half of them being single stagers, but at least the cooking bonus should give me a permanent landmark. Also in conjunction with area bonus, it should help level your recipes even further.
>>58683312>90% chance>234 ingredients in post with GCT>Doesn't critI still hit Master 3 but what the fuck
$$$
Do we know what Spiritomb's ingredients and whatnot are yet?
>>58685287mushroom/pumpkin/leek ingredient specialist with extrs helpful skill, slightly higher mushroom production than quagsire
>>58683563Lapis for me. I need a tomato farmer
>>58685287>Ing Specialist>Skill: Extra Helpful>Lvl10 ings: 2 Mushroom>Lvl30 ings: 5 Mushroom / 3 Pumpkin>Lvl60 ings: 7 Mushroom / 5 Pumpkin / 6 LeekI like that they have surprisingly big base inventory for a single-stage mon (27). And even an ABC ing list might be acceptable since all their ingredients are good.
>>58685378Spiritomb is the new top mushroom farmer, although only by a little bit.It's also a super viable pumpkin farmer, if you can get an ABB Spiritomb to 60 it's about 80-90% as good as Gourgeist.It's dark berries are strong and its dark typing gives it a welcome spot on a Darkrai team.It is however significantly slower than the likes of Gengar (mushrooms) or Tyranitar (dark berries), but its high ingredient gathering rate and strong ingredients make up for it.
>>58685505At a glance, Spiritomb is very impressive.Against other ingredient specialists like Gengar or Tyranitar, with BFS, Ing Finder M, Helping Speed M, it really delivers keeping in mind that Tyranitar is bolstering its own energy without relying on E4E healers.Its inventory is also comparable to most three stagers, so it doesn't have the single-stage inventory curse like launch species had.
>>58685378Despite its power on paper, Spiritomb seems rather slow and less than reliable without a top tier roll. Extra Helpful activations also prop up its overall power in the calculator because it defaults to only hitting itself, even if it is a powerful skill. Still seems like a practical step over Gourgeist or Quagsire, but I don't really find those very attractive as solo gatherers. I suppose all of its ingredients being high power helps manage its own inventory though.
>>58685505>>58685518>>58685642Interesting. Hopefully I can find a decent one, then. Its shiny is amazing as well.
>>58685378idk, this doesn't feel like something I want to try to catch, with how shitty it'll be at 16 pips to find anything reasonable, and then finding candy to level it up will suck too.Relatively content with my decision to go OGPP in the pursuit of a better coffee and oil farmer.
I have a Treecko with BFS, STS, INVS, STM and a +EXP/-SPD nature. Do you guys think I should invest in it? I have enough candy to boost it to a lv50 Sceptile right away, and I have a mint if necessary, but I'm not sure if I should wait for a better one.For comparison, right now I'm simulating a team with it in raenonx>as is (lv50, no mint, 3 skill seeds)2.854m strength >if I mint it 2.909 strength >if it was a HB+BFS+STS with Neutral Nature3.050 strength I feel like Treecko should be easy enough to farm but I haven't tried yet, mine is from the anniversary event still.
>>58683430I found a shiny Wobbuffet today and I didn't even bother catching it honestly. Total shitmon even with a blessed subskill spread and I also hate pink shinies.
bros I'm running out of ingredients help
I don't think spiritomb is worth chasingit's probably an 18 pip investment that might not even have good subskillsi'll try my luck at a farfetch'd
>>58686346Just bring out your tyranitar or something to produce endless filler and have your main guys powering up dishes
Well, this is a nice reminder.
>went to ggex>got Fairy as main favored berriesFinally an excuse to use my boy! Metronome is legit so fun.
>>58686346Triple cooking pot capacity with event and GCT bonus is insane, my max pot size is 234. Even with the 1.5x Ingredient Magnet S bonus my Vaporeon can't produce nearly enough ingredients to max the pot three times a day.Don't force yourself to fill the pot the whole way or you'll just sabotage your ability to make dishes. When cooking, recipe bonus only applies to the required ingredients, any extra ingredients is only boosted by area bonus and the event bonus.>>58686827I got Normal / Fairy / Bug with berries effect and desserts.I might be able to make at least one Clodsire Éclair each day, but I'm wondering if it would actually be better to go all-in on berries with my BFS Gardevoir, Raticate, Butterfree, and Vikavolt.I currently have a Helping Bonus Vaporeon on ingredient farming duty, and will probably alternate it with Blastoise and Venusaur to get the Milk, Cacao, and Honey I need. Bringing in Dedenne instead on occasion makes a lot of sense, too.50% area bonus though, so I have a good shot at Master 3 regardless, which is a Sneasel incense this week.I need to spend at least three nights with my Raticate on my sleep team though, for the 5x Handy Candy S reward.
>>58686346bro how do you not have a dragonite yet, I'm drowning in herbs after 2 hours
can't believe I'm asking this, but who is the best sausage pokemon right now? Is it aggron?
>>58686999Yes, but Charizard and Bewear are close behind (though Bewerar is better suited for Corn).
>>58686990Not that anon but I've got a great Dragonite that'll herb-max when it hits 60 then 75.However, it's a desserts week and just having a mon that can stuff the pot isn't the best strategy. Each herb is 130 strength, with 50% area bonus and 1.25x event bonus each filler herb is only adding 243.75 strength to the resulting dish.It's more important to run ingredient farmers that can cook the best desserts, since the required ingredients scale up much higher with high recipe levels (over 300% base strength over level 60 iirc).This week at expert GG I have normal / psychic / bug berries with 2.4x favorite berry strength.It works out that my level 50 Raticate can gather about 250 normal berries a day (without energy support), each berry delivering 94 base strength at 50.Each berry gives 338 strength thanks to the expert bonuses and 50% area bonus, so Raticate alone can safely deliver 84.6k strength each day.On the other hand, the Clodsire Éclaire I made for lunch was worth about 140k strength, and my dinner Éclaire crit for 285k strength, which is far more than what Raticate alone was able to deliver, and exceeds the berry gathering strength of my core team this week. That's IF I can make the dish, it's not easy but the Vikavolt helps a lot with the coffee.
>>58664268still room for 10 more. lesgo
1.5x on Ingredient Magnet is pretty insane if you're actually using a Vaporeon or similar with a maxed out skill.Also the previous cooking event only gave us 1.5x pot size (later updated to 1.6x), but the actual cooking bonus was 1.5x
>>58688083Honchkrow's shard lottery also gets a boost, which is nice if you maxxed it
I have a full on ingredient slakoth, is it worth turning him into a giga farmer Slaking?
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>>58688206Slaking can farm an OK number of ingredients, but it's also slow and doesn't have the raw quantities per help that you get from normal ingredient specialists. If you're using a Slaking, I would only use it for its skill above anything else, because it's pretty bad at everything else.
>dinner crit puts me to Master 1 alreadyOh my.
Replacing my Day 1 butterfree with a vaporeon for more ingredientsI assume Main Skill Chance and Skill Trigger M are the best?
if only this one were AAA... basedbeans are like the only thing i don't need
>>58689345and i'm retarded on top of that
>>58688977Master 1 at Lapis Lakeside is less than Great 4 on Expert Greengrass, crazy.>>58689083Yes, Main Skill Chance nature and Skill Trigger M are the best things for most skill specialists. Helping Speed M is the next best thing.Depending on the species, BFS is highly desirable if their role is raw strength generation, such as Espeon with Charge Strength M.Skill specialists that have an unusually low skill trigger rate like Raikou, Entei, and Suicune, generally prefer Helping Speed boosts over Skill Trigger, since more chances of triggering works out better than the small increases to individual chances.As for Ingredient Magnet S specifically, for anything that isn't a skill specialist like Vaporeon or Heracross, that main skill is only a bonus and not their main role.It's a very nice bonus on things like Venusaur, Blastoise, Charizard, Butterfree, and Walrein, but only a bonus. These species don't benefit from Skill Trigger M or Main Skill Chance very much, since their skill trigger rate is low, and they can't double-bank skill triggers like skill specialists.In general, subskills and natures that boost ingredient finding or skill triggers, only matter for species where their base chances are already quite high. Unfortunately, those chances are hidden and you have to rely on external resources like Raenonx to identify them.Counter-intuitively, some ingredient specialists may actually have lower ingredient gathering rates than some berry specialists. Gengar is a prime example of that, it's balanced out due to its strong ingredients and fast helping frequency.Another good example is Avocados, Crustle has an ingredient gathering rate of 23.90%, whilst Flygon is only 17.20%. Flygon's Avocado quantities are superior though, so at baseline it exceeds Crustle's Avacado gathering potential even when accounting for its Ingredient Draw main skill (at level 2).
>>58689359>and they can't double-bank skill triggers like skill specialists.Ahh how could i not have seen this?
>>58689969You can tap on a Pokémon's Speciality to learn more about it.Skill specialists didn't use to have this perk, but they added it to give it an advantage it was lacking compared to sheer quantities of ingredients or berries the others have.
>had to boost up this Kangaskhan as my only possible Ginger farmer for the interimAt least candy boost saved me candies. Not like anything else I'm leveling up really needs it anyways. It's still nice for Legendaries/Darkrai, but I also have yet to unlock the final pot upgrade @ 1.2m
>>58691173With the holiday Candy Boost (up to 500 candies per day at 5x dream shard cost), I don't see myself getting that final pot upgrade this year at all.I've plenty of good stuff that I can get to 50+, whilst there's little benefit to having 81 ingredients over 78.
>>58689346That shit is fucking brutal. I went through the same thing with stupid sausage Fuecocos.
Didn't manage to catch my free incense spiritomb. Guess I'm never seeing that fucker again.
>>58692083You've still got 6 days of event left, plus Good Sleep Day to boost encounters of new sleep styles for three nights.
>>58644267followup: i caught this insane dwebble toward the end of the event and would eventually like to level it. ive got 3 or 4 things that take priority for leveling to 60, most of which spawn at OGPP, so ill likely be there most of the coming year. following that, ill return to AC and hunt for a nice ABB flygon, since my avo needs are pretty much covered, but my herb needs are only met by a lackluster dragonair
>>58692399Anon Gengar at level 30 produces almost as many herbs as flygon does at 60, why not just hunt Gastly while you're at ogpp?
>>58692747i like flygonbut yeah definitely looking for gengar while there but herbs are low priority for me
>>58692399>insane dwebble>dwebble with barely any skill triggeridgi
>>58692944gonna subseed obviously, stm + ifm + hsm + ing up nature is pretty much ideal. i could maybe find one that takes less subskill seeds but i dont mind it that much
>>58693151Is that even worth it for a Crustle? I would just hold out for the flygon
>>58693350I forgot raenon is stuck on event calculations again. Crustle caps out around 50 Avocados/day with AAA and all ingredient skills/nature, which is OK for a non-ingredient type. But if you're going to use a Crustle, might as well use it for what it's meant for. A skill-focused AAA Crustle only gathers around 35 Avocados, but the extra activations net it an overall increase of ingredient quantities.Even though a Crustle can get comparable number of Avocados after combining the average payout of a maxed out skill, Flygon is much more consistent if you only want Avocados (and less Main Skill Seed investment).
>>58693434>I forgot raenon is stuck on event calculations againGenuinely baffles me that their UI doesn't let you toggle that. I had the same problem earlier when wanting to compare Flygon and Crustle performance. You can still make the conclusion that Flygon is the superior dedicated Avocado farmer, whilst Crustle has superior quantities of mixed ingredients like ABC ingredient farmers; albeit requiring multiple main skill needs investment. That's generally what I don't like about Ingredient Draw skill specialists, I'd rather run an ingredient specialist for that.Most people going to that calculator want to figure out baseline performance to evaluate investments, not event performance to plan for one specific week of team building.Of course, the latter matters too, but it's not like the UI lets you set parameters for a future event to let you plan ahead, either.
Uh oh, looks like I hit the jackpot this morning
>>58693434this works well enough for me.the flygon in the guac team is ABB, so it does assist with avocados a little. i like this crustle so i plan to invest it. if i find a good mono flygon, maybe ill invest it, but im already kinda covered
>>58694214forgot pic
>>58693915Breddy damn good. If I actually paid for this game, I would want to run a skill-leaning one since Skill Copy and Metronome are just such fun skills. You can't copy Skill Copy, but I think you can still copy Metronome.
>>58693915Technically an ideal spread, it's just that Ditto's not amazing.Slowpoke tails are good filler ingredients, but current recipes with their really high multipliers don't need them, and the only recipes that use tails have low bonuses.
Been able to consistently rotate between making defiant and apple acid all week, also making the new bulldoze guac when my crustle decides to play nice
I'm actually quite glad I opted to skip Expert and Amber and just go to an island with area bonus already. It's helping level up my recipes a lot, plus I'm on track to M20 by Sunday.
Not too shabby... Still wish it had BFS though.
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>>58698313Did not mean to reply and forgot to post message.How is this guy? First one I caught. Should I power him up or hold out til I manage to see one again?
>>58698323>>58698313This one looks particularly bad, I'd wait for a better one at least until the end of the week unless you're desperate for shrooms or literally cannot wait because you want a big spiritomb RIGHT NOW
Got some nice hauls this week
>90% tasty chance failed on Sunday>10% chance crit on Monday>40% chance failed three times todayWhat the fuck is my cooking luck lately.I got to make a Clodsire Eclair, Zing Zap Spiced Cola, and Scary Face Pancakes today and any of them would've been good, I don't want to waste the crit on a Tiramisu or a Popcorn; I make those whilst I'm saving up for the best meals.
I haven't fed a single Spiritomb yet, but I don't tend to feed single-stagers unless they're hungry or there's nothing else to feed anyways. Spawns have been pretty nice since the cooking boosts are also just making way for more of the rare spawns early into the week. And speaking of power, tomorrow's Good Night research may also be the highest power you reach all week.
Got a Shiny Metapod today, but I already have a BFS Shiny Butterfree.
>>58699700Ironically it's kind of hard to get Caterpie after you exit the very, very early stage of the game. And then you don't even really seem them until Amber Canyon again, where even there they struggle to match up despite the berry bonus.
>>58700280I saw like 20 metapods when AC was released
Just popped my master 3 trapinch incense, wish me luck. These stupid turtles have been shit so far.
>>58700867>BFS ABC with 0 ingredient finders, two skill triggers, a skill level up and a neutral nature
>went out for drinks last night>forgot to turn on the app>WOKE UP AT 4:10AMDon't drink folks.
>>58700867Using a Pokémon incense tonight is also just a good idea.2x DP and Good Sleep Day bonus of boosted undiscovered sleep styles.I'm using my Spiritomb incense tonight to try for 3* or 4* Spiritomb sleep.
I feel like this was so close to being usable. Better than the first one I got, anyway.
>Look at me I have ingredient finder m xD
>>58701850I think it's usable with a subskill seed, but the main issue is that the nature doesn't do anything for it.
Eh...? Ingredient magnet is good, but EXP down is more detrimental.
>>58702097Sunday is going to be a real test for gathering sheer quantities of ingredients. I feel like my Vaporeon's been a little stingy with its activations, but I've managed to fill my pot every meal without dipping very far from the inventory cap. Unfortunately I think I'm trending a bit behind M20 unless I get a nice crit on Sunday.
>>58703733With a cooking pot size of 78, the event's cooking pot bonus stacked with a good camp ticket, and then stacked further with the Sunday bonus will be insane.I haven't been filling the pot the whole way during the week, the maximum is over 160 and it's just too much for too little gain; you're only getting area bonus and then 1.25x event bonus on filler ingredients, so it's most important to focus on making the best dishes you can.It's also more important to maximise extra tasty chances for Sunday; hitting that 3x multiplier is going to do way more for your dish strength than being able to completely fill the pot.I just hope I don't have the same shitty luck I had last week; no crits on 40%, 60%, and fucking 90% odds. That wasn't even the Dedenne's fault it did its job.
>>58703934I've been at 20% ET chance since Tuesday, no crits, bumped up to 40% Thursday night. Still no crit this entire week
>>58702659Yeah, that was the main thing. Ing up nature is what I really needed on it
Perhaps the most disappointing good sleep night in quite some time. It didn't even bother giving me any event boosted Pokemon!
>>58705074The Bellsprout is technically your boosted event spawn.I don't think Quaquaval counts, since the event doesn't mention it, though Quaxly is mentioned.You did get two fully evolved 3 star sleep encounters though, those award a ton of research EXP and dream shards.Actually, being at Expert GG again after a few weeks at Amber Canyon, has made me appreciate just how much you earn in dream shards. I'm considering sticking to Expert GG for the rest of the year to try and maximise dream shard earnings, for the upcoming holiday candy boost.
Got these two today, but it's kind of a mixed feeling. I guess potato and oil at least go together pretty well, but ABC on Spiritomb seems like a waste, especially since I already have a pretty good Farfetch'd. Maybe it's fine to use it at 50 just for the Pumpkins and Mushrooms?
>>58703733I still really need a “volume” ingredient finder. Closest I have is one of my oldest mons here but he procs sparsely.
I'm at lunch on sunday with like 1.1 mill to M20. I don't think its happening
>>58705584I find ABC is generally too inconsistent for ingredient types. You typically only run them for a single, maybe two ingredients per a specific recipe, so having a third wheel can waste your gathers unless it's high quantity and you need pot filler.
>>58706615>lunch didn't crit at 60%frick
3.6m on Saturday night; need to hit 5.2 to get M20.I definitely overestimated the added cooking ability, as it'll total about 1-1.5m depending on crits. Probably should have just gone for the sure thing on Snowdrop rather than Lapis, even if my ingredient farmers were better there. I can get a bit over ~3m on a normal week, but this was hoping for a bit too much.
Is it even possible for my pokemon to gather enough ingredients to fill up the pot tomorrow? Sunday bonus + event bonus + good camp ticket bonus. None of my guys are even level 60 yet
>>58707059Considering my pot today looked like 450 ingredients, I think it would be an immense struggle.
>>58707059This is what top gatherers look like without the level 60 slot open. No way in hell you'd be able to fill a pot without a lot of tickets or extremely lucky Ingredient Magnet/Ingredient Draw activations. The event's Sunday pot is 4x size.
Well I got over the line to M20 at OGPP, it may have cost me 3 or 4 whistles, and missing my bed time. Turns out chucking 130 cocoa and 130 ginger into an eclair makes big numbers.
I thought this would turn out bigger. Looks like I'll still need another crit of the same size AND another full meal to make my M20.
This game really gave me a shiny ABC spiritomb with an ingredient down nature and no ingredient findersOn another note, is mawile just really shit or something? When I run the calcs on raenonx the same subskills on a toxicroak are SS but on mawile it's a D.
Well, I did get the crit I needed, so I should be all set for my M20. Also finally managed to cap out my Clodsire Eclair recipe even if I only really got to make it on Sundays until now.>>58708990I don't remember if ingredient sets factor in, but the ranking and percentile things are always hogwash. You can better judge how good something is by just looking at the actual data rather than having an arbitrary number assigned to it.That said, Mawile's raw ingredient gathering power is by no means top tier, but it can be strong on the right team. I think ideally, Mawile works well with a BFS set and given no limits, also wants its skill powered up to push it over being just a regular ingredient farmer. I think under the same conditions, a AAA Mawile gathers less oil than a Toxicroak, but Mawile is capable of more power overall with its main skill and berries.
>Picture taken moments before disaster
>decided it's time to try expert>Fav fighting, rock and poison secondary favs>cooking, saladsHoly fuck this is a shocking combo for me, my only good pokemon of any of those types is a bewear. Guess I'll try to slowly make fruit salads with slow apple and honey production
>>58707059>>58707173>>58707227I survived with 120 ingredients to spare. My Vaporeon kicked ass all week and today he only triggered three times. My Gardevoir only triggered twice but she did it at the clutchest of times so only now is anyone under 80%. Tyranitar really pulled through all week though I must have used like 250 with half being gathered yesterday. The shitty part is I went to lapis to try to get some Bellsprouts since I don't have a tomato farmer and I didn't encounter a single one
>>58709750Your first month or so on Expert is going to be pretty shitty anyways. No area bonus and all the inflated tiers make it pretty hard to get anywhere early on.I'm still thinking about going this week, but it might be better to try and refill my ingredient stocks; I usually end up with a deficit on Expert and I'm already low from the massive pot boost during the event.And speaking of ingredients, I decided to take another look at our oil producers, just because there's actually a lot of AAA ones.>MawileIf you level its skill up to 7 (absurd for a skill that isn't really THAT strong), it can compete as one of the highest ingredient quantity producers.>CramorantHas the lowest gather rate, but Tasty Chance is a really strong skill.>DittoSeems like a bit of a waste since it can get tails and leeks instead. Also the lowest dedicated gatherer for Oil. Its skill can be really strong, but ultimately wasteful.>ToxicroakThe "best" and easily accessible, but also pretty unremarkable.>Luxray2nd place, but a very strong BFS candidate and even gets some extra Tomatoes.>DragoniteEven though it gets the least Oil, frankly it's absurd that it can pull double duty with just the single slot.
do i keep these spreads? especially croagunk is funky but i lack a good sausage farmer
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>>58710641 i wouldn't bother with he croagunk at all. It is not a good gatherer to begin with and there are much better sausage farmers. Tyranitar is also such a big investment, I personally wouldn't but someone with more insight can give you a better answer
>>58710638That specific ingredient spread is really good, but I personally wouldn't use a Larvitar that doesn't have BFS. That's just a lot of potential power you're leaving on the table. The nature also isn't doing anything for you. I'd take speed, ingredients, or EXP up as long as it wasn't also any of those things down, though EXP is more negotiable.That skill spread is decent, but a Toxicroak's only niche is really as a pure oil farmer as there are tons of Pokemon that gather sausages much better than it can.
>>58709750The first weeks at Expert GG are always painful, especially since 2.5M just for Master 3 is so demanding. If you play premium and have spare Good Camp Tickets, consider using one.Even with the speed penalty, you can potentially be in a situation where your level 60+ berry specialists might be better than your lack of options for Snorlax's favorites.This week, I got Steel / Psychic / Ghost and Curries with skill trigger boost.This means my Gardevoir will have no problem keeping the team perked up, and my BFS Gengar can help deliver strength and pot filler, whilst other ingredient specialists work on meal prep.I have a great mono-sausage Aggron that'll be getting all the sausages I need this week, for certain curries or just as filler.An aside, the only available E4E skill specialists healers are fairy, psychic, and electric type, so each visit only has a 3/18 (1/6) chance of getting full undiminished healing support.If you ever get a bad berry roll on Expert GG, just weather it so you can get the 5% expert bonus at the end of the week.Re-rolling is costly; you need both an expert ticket and an E-Zzz travel ticket, which are in limited supply each month. You can stockpile the E-Zzz travel tickets, but expert tickets being limited to carrying 2 is a pain.Re-rolls should only be considered if you are going to expert GG on an important week and your first roll is absolutely dire.
>>58711004>>58711472welp... i'm starting to run out of mons to invest in while not having a lot of good ones
>>58712490It's hard to find good Pokemon, so I wouldn't expect to always have something worth powering up. Especially after the candy boost events from the past few months, you should already have finished boosting what you got unless you picked something up very, very recently. I don't remember using the Xmas candy boost much or at all in previous years either, partly because it's an even worse deal than the limited 50-candy ones we get more commonly.
Guess I should be conserving biscuits a little bit since we're going to get more stuff for Christmas along with the usual Eevee & Pikachu.
>>58713647hmmm good point, I mean we'll probably get some gifts for it, but hard to say how much we'll need.
Where do you find Bellsprout? Lapis is not working out
>>58714238Snowdrop should give you much more consistent Bellsprout spawns on dozing, there's a lot of filler dozing mons on lapis like sprigatito, Bulbasaur, Dratini, treecko that get excluded on snowdrop.
>>58713647Has anything been announced?>>58714252Thanks I'll try there next week
>>58714801Nothing announced yet, but the past two years have had a Holiday event.To recap Holiday 2024, it was a "Double Dream Shard" event taking place at Greengrass, with double dream shards (triple on 25th and 29th), they debuted the Pawmi and Alolan Vulpix lines, and they had Dream Gifts for signing on for the 24th and 25th.Dream Shard Magnet S was twice as effective, and full Candy Boost was available; 500 candies with double XP using 5x dream shard cost.Ice type Pokémon also got buffs to ingredient counts, skill triggers, and skill level, and Snorlax's first favorite berry was Rawst (ice).Also 1225 bonus sleep points for tracking sleep on the 25th.There's also the New Years event that has an event exchange with Dream Coins, and primarily featured Pokémon that debuted that year.
>>58714801We should be getting an announcement pretty soon, as we usually get about a 2-week advance notice about events. Judging by the Eevee day thing though, there might be some issues with their previous processes.
I usually just skip over this screen, but it was nice to see the difference. I think my berries usually end up around 1.8m, with cooking coming out to around the same in a normal week, so it was nice to see the actual effect of the event.
>>58716333What I'd rather see is a breakdown of my team's contributions, so I can really gauge how each team member is helping out and in what ways.The relative gains are pretty meaningless if the variables change week on week anyway, especially if there's an event, or if you're going to a different map entirely.
>>58716372Given that you can swap an infinite number of times for any reason and any period of time at all, I doubt they would bother recording individual Pokemon data for those purposes.
Welp, there's the news! Xmas event, Togedemaru, Cetoddle/Cetitan, and Holiday Wreath Spheal (probably doesn't evolve). Also, looks like they gave us Togedemaru's skill for some reason, but nothing else about the new Pokemon.>Nuzzle (Energizing Cheer S)>Restores Energy to one random Pokémon on your team.>If you’re lucky, that Pokémon will also obtain a main skill activation bonus.>• The probability of gaining a main skill activation bonus varies depends on the target Pokémon’s chance of triggering their main skill.>• When a Pokémon gains a main skill activation bonus, it can trigger its main skill one extra time, separate from its usual help.>• Pokémon who already have the main skill activation bonus cannot receive the bonus again.>• The main skill activation bonus will be removed if you conduct sleep research or when you move to another site.Bit of a strange skill bonus that applies an actual buff, but seems alright.
Just a little regret going to Expert with low ingredient stocks. I usually like to at least cook at the beginning of the week to accelerate my access to 8 spawns, but guess I'll just tank it and see what little to no cooking does this week.
got my bagon this morning and was so looking forward to adding him to my team and just sitting in amber canyon for two monthsthen read the announcement about the xmas event which isn't on amber canyon, and that i should probably be on GGE to improve my area bonus before the eventblaaaaahhhhhh
>>58720434the bagon
>>58719072>Pokémon in holiday attire that appear during the holiday event cannot be evolved.Oh, well that answers that. That means Wreath Spheal is either going to have some fundamental changes like a new skill or specialty, or it's just going to be a souped up Spheal that's not quite as strong as a Walrein.>>58720434All major holiday events always take place only on Greengrass so that everyone can participate (those events really only being Halloween and Christmas). Partly it's also due to the area theming only being built for the one location, though now we have the option to go to Expert at least.Ice and Steel are pretty hard types to come by, so I'm not certain if I'll actually want to go for Expert even if the dream shard bonus is further amplified there. I have a Walrein, Glaceon, and a fill-in Aggron, but nothing else; still looking for A. Vulpix mainly, and Steelix is a pipe dream. Interestingly, Ice and Steel both lean towards a cooking focus. Both types have access to Cooking Power Up and their berry farmers also have Ingredient Magnet.
>>58719072its a bit lame, in that ice and steel just don't have much going for them mon wise. Nobody owns a steelix, even more sausages from aggron cool, deli is there and I do have a great walrein I guess. or wow my magnemite can make a huge recipe.
>>58720665yeah i know the major events are gg, just a little annoyed at the timingeven if you're struggling on ice and steel, the dream shards you get from GG are absolutely pitiful compared to GGE. and you've got a little time to maybe boost what you do have up
>>58713088the thing is i want to get 10 mons to 35 for that damned water stone because i have a good eevee. i guess i'll level up some of my good not-good-mons like ditto. i'm still getting use out of them until i catch better alternatives
>>58721653Delibird isn't even Ice.Ice: Walrein, Glaceon, A. Ninetales, Abomasnow, and upcoming Cetitan.Steel: Aggron, Magnezone, Steelix, Mawile, and upcoming Togedemaru.
>>58720434Last week at GGEX against my previous weeks at Amber Canyon opened my eyes that I needed to really earn more dream shards, if I want to make good use of the predictably announced Candy Boost, but improving the area bonus is a good reason too.That said, forced Ice and Steel berries for that week is a bad decision. You might have a good Walrein since they're easy to get, but Steel types? The only berry option is Steelix and that's hard as hell to get.
>>58723570>upcoming TogedemaruIt's also highly likely to be a skill specialist, given its emphasis on its unique main skill.Right now, the only steel type skill specialist is the Magnemite line, but if Togedemaru ends up being a berry specialist that would be fine.
>>58723570Fuck , tired brain forgot its flying
>>58723583I'll bet against them making the only other Steel berry farmer another single-stager, but I wouldn't put it past them to make another ingredient type. At the very least. I can hope it's quick so that it can run BFS competently regardless of its specialty. It's going to be annoying to catch no matter what though.
Is this guy just too fucking slow to use without helping speed bonuses
>>58724691You mainly just use it if you have Dragon berries, because neutrally, it's not that great.
>>58721653Steel types feel so elusive. Ice types are basically banished.
what are the best dream shard skill mons?
>>58726343Swalot I think? I used my shiny lucario because its cool but its I think just not as productive.I use a honchkrow too but its half ingredient finding half shard finding. Did roll a jackpot in the ingredient event which was pretty sick
>>58726419I recall that when they buffed dream shard magnet earlier this year and increased the skill level cap, that the yield gap between the non-variable (Lucario) and variable (Swalot) versions shrunk considerably. Swalot still has the better shard farming performance by virtue of the main skill alone, but the devs probably realised that Swalot having better stats than Lucario wasn't a good look. Maybe in the future they'll give Lucario some special boy treatment and upgrade it's main skill to a unique one, like they have for Mr. Mime, Ditto, and Delibird.
Stomp stomp stomp
>>58725748I’m even on dragon berries this week and it’s so unimpressive. I saw bfs helping bonus and stopped looking for new ones but ehhh
>>58725748Explain this to me. Why is feraligtr with sneaky snacking stronger than no sneaky snacking
>>58728015Sneaky snacking does guarantee you don't roll ingredients, only pure berry strength. Gues its better strength wise to only have berries instead of occasional sausages and rarer skill activations.
>>58728500I'll have to try that
>>58728015This chart only compares berry pickups, meaning it ignores skill triggers and the strength of any ingredients. So according to the chart, there's ~6,000 power difference between allowing Feraligatr to pick up ingredients vs forcing it to only get berries. When you include skill activations, a non-sneaky snacking Feraligatr can probably get similar results if its main skill is leveled up. But then if you make Oran berries favored, that 6,000 gap suddenly becomes 12,000.
>>58725748Damn, I knew that Marowak was garbage but I didn't expect it to be THAT level of shit.
>>58729774I think this chart was made before the ground-type buffs, so its actual standing isn't THAT much better, but I think it's closer to Arbok at least.
>>58729774He’s my strongest guy for this week’s expert berries
Decided to take another tally including the upcoming additions, only counting final evolutions (Onix and Steelix counted separately since Onix is viably different).Gen 1: 31Gen 2: 20Gen 3: 17Gen 4: 15Gen 5: 3Gen 6: 3Gen 7: 6Gen 8: 2Gen 9: 6Here are some of the lowest type representations among these:3 - Rock, Dragon4 - Ground, Bug, Flying, FairySurprisingly, Dark is among the most populated types at 10
