How do we fix Flareon?
>>58695974play the TCG or Pocket
technician + swap special defense and speed
>>58695974Wonder Guard
>>58695974Isn't he the best fire Pokemon in Legends Z-A right now? >Fire monotype>hits like a fucking truck>XS size barely takes hits>XS version doesn't take an AoE penalty for the general Ranked competitive movesetWhat is there to fix?
Fur Coat!
Speed boostfixes everything
>>58695974What's there to fix?Guts facade/flare blitz is already fantastic at obliterating things slower than it.
>>58696044>things slower than it.that's the problemit's really slow for a wallbreaker
>>58696065>it's really slow for a wallbreakerI mean for balance sake it had to take a hit somewhere. Imagine even a +20 in speed in Z-A.
>>58696044also worth mentioning that both of these moves involve making it kill itselfit's weak to stealth rock (a problem in singles) and weak to one of the most common spread moves in doubles, rock slideit really shouldn't have to die even faster just to make the most of its 130 attack>>58696128>I mean for balance sake it had to take a hit somewhereits physical bulk is already terrible, it doesn't need to be shackled with poor speed too
>>58696158>its physical bulk is already terribleNo with an XS size>it doesn't need to be shackled with poor speed tooA fast move set in Ranked fixes this. Low cooldown loops to keep it darting through the enemy. Use the attacks to move.
Swap HP and special attack to make a special tank that can punch special walls. Giving it speed is dumb because we don't need a worse Arcanine who is a worse Entei who is a worse Darmanitan. A wish passing fire type special tank that can safely burn physical attackers would be cool.Alternatively, fur coat fits it perfectly. It has the same base defense as both other fur coat users Furfrou and alolan Persian, and has the same base HP as the Persian and less than Furfrou. A mixed wall support fire type is neat, specially when it can still lay the smack down if it needs to.>>58696128>>58696341If we're talking about ZA, it doesn't need any changes. Flareon has massive special bulk to take on mewtwo and resists Xerneas stab faeries moves and can one shot either of them after a swords dance with +flareblitz, but it still has weaknesses in its HP and def stats
Great. Another month long eevee thread to filter
>>58696847Do you even like the hobby?
>>58696847It’s not like this shithole has any threads worth anything. I’d rather an entire board of nothing but Eevee filler than the current crap
Gibe partner moves BUT only one at a time
>>58695974
>>58696341>it being ok in one sidegame with completely different mechanics justifies being a shitmon in the entire rest of the 29 year old series
The only Pokemon that isn't unsalvagable are Ledian and Delibird because the Church of r/Pokemon said so.
>>58695974uhh fur coat?makes it quite tankyi also think all eeveelutions should get a +20 stat buff to one of their two stats at 65, so +20 to his HP too, and eevee should learn extreme speed and swords dance
It's pretty good in the ZA format. But then again the only Fire type that sucks in this game is Pyroar lol
>58698138>inane off topic ESL reddit babble
>>58696044Why would you ever use Flareon over any other fully evolved Guts user?The other Guts users can run Flame Orb or be burned, which is the best status for Guts since Guts ignore the attack drop. Most also have STAB on Facade or have STAB to hit Rock types too.
>>58698308>The other Guts users can run Flame Orb or be burned, which is the best status for Guts since Guts ignore the attack dropit also does only 1/16 health per turn, compared to toxic's exponentially increasing damage
>>58696915Doesn't mean you should turn random threads into fanart spam with no discussioneven if I prefer fanart threads over anything else /vp/ has to offer
>>58696847What's wrong with having a cute Pokémon in the catalog?
>>58695974Sacred Fire couldn't even fix Entei so probably nothing
>>58698773Nothing is, as long as it isn't a thread Chappyfag and Jeetschizo would like to shit up.
>>58695974How about we fix you first OP? Really dude? There is nothing to fix. Flareon is good and loved just the way it is.
>>58699607Weird how a lot of slow 'mons become great when Speed becomes less important like in ZA. Almost like Speed being as vital as it is in the mainline games is fucked up.
>>58698795You just HAD to open your mouth
>>58699626I honestly hope real-time battles are here to stay, with additions/improvements down the line.
>>58695974I don't know shit but Speed Boost?
>>58699626You mean they balanced pokemon with high stats in other areas by giving them low speed so you can either compensate for it or they won’t be good? Wild. Next you’re gonna tell me slacking and mewtwo are held back by their abilities while shedinja over performs for its statline due to its ability.
Hmm, I wonder why none of that mattered when overinflated Speed made it too easy to work around the supposedly balanced stats that were less important than Speed in the mainline games. It's even more suspicious that the useless attempt to defend mainline trash involves namedropping 'mons that have too many counterplays.
sensual touch will fix her
Extreme Speed and a Fire-type version of Pixilate replacing Guts. Boom, fixed.
why not that ability that burns on contact
>>58700115Would be outclassed by Vaporeon
>>58700269Herpes?
Whoops, it has a Chappy now!
>>58700238A safer physical Fire move with more BP than Temper Flare would help a lot
>>58695974A offensive mon has to be either fast or tanky, and Flareon can't be tanky because Flare Blitz is its strongest move so speed it is, but it also has bad speed so we're getting nowhere.
>>58701215How do we fix your illiteracy?
>>58695974Fire/Normal typing for the kamikaze badly poisoned Facade and a niche in doubles vs flutter maneGive it a stat rework where its SpA is 65, SpD 95 and Speed 110
>>58695974Everyone talks about how good an XS one is in Ranked but I never see them anywhere. What move set puts it above other fire Pokemon?
>>58696011>Get a Shiny Eevee>It's a "hasty" nature
Red-hot touch(ability)Burns from this pokemon are severe(Burns from this user deal the same damage as Toxic and reduce physical damage to 3/4)
>>58695974>XS Flareon so you don't get hit>XS Umbreon so you don't get hit AND you can dual screen defendIt's so much better.
>>58710202it needs the speed more + it resists fairy and is immune to ghost anyways + stop being a crybaby about muh speed, there's plenty of speed control methods out there for the 99% of people out there whose favorite mon isn't regieleki
>>58695974Take it to the vet. It would probably be a lot easier than doing it yourself.
>>58695974Give Extreme Speed to Eevee. Give Fur Coat to Flareon as the 3rd Ability.
Flareon got even better after getting trail blaze in ZA. that speed boost helps so damn much.
>>58695974By making Flareon real so I can hugs that floof on these cold winter nights.
>>58695974>Put it to sleep>Numb the area>Snip snipMount Silver oysters, anyone?
>>58695974Give Drought
>>58701215
Why hasn't Eevee gotten extremespeed after 25 years?
>>58695974She is perfect as is
>>58722995Flareon had Trailblaze for years, you fucking 'tard. Flame Charge is what it got recently.
>>58734836And on release, trailblaze wasn't available. Only after the DLC drop did Flareon get it again.
>>58734855>after getting trailblaze in ZAnigger you are actually retarded. it has it in SV
>>58734861And it LOST ACCESS TO IT IN ZA and only reacquired it.
>>58734865How long did you cry when you couldn’t use a useless move in a game where speed doesn’t matter?
>>58734871Speed is shit, speed BOOSTS are goated.
>>58734865Legends movesets aren’t real you retarded faggot. You see any Gardevoirs with Ice Beam lately?
>>58734874New level of cope has been unlocked, boys
>>58734875What does this have to do with the current conversation? We're talking about ZA.
>>58695974introduce an unevolving stone so you can change your mind and get a sylveon instead
>>58695974give Sizzly Slide
>>58697792>>58697784>>58735021Power creep is so bad nowadays you could give each Eeveeloution their respective move from LGPE and they probably wouldn't be too broken
Flareon's so shit that I didn't even realize it was 5-10 points shy of being equal to a starter Pokemon. It was deliberately set up to fail with that over inflated Special Defense.
Don't care. Luv me Flareon.
Moveset aside, does it just come down to flareon having to use toxic orb vs flame orb for guts?
>>58736558That & its low speed/phys defense
Give it extreme speed and sucker punch.It needs prio moves because terrible speed.
>chappy again bumps at page 10Please self immolate u freak
>Just learned that Flareon can't even learn Ember in YellowI THOUGHT YOU GUYS WERE JUST OVERREACTING
>>58695974Take him to the vet, then put a cone around his neck.
>>58747676>YellowWho cares? Works in Red
>>58747829No tradebacks
>>58695974>elemental power>distribution: eevee/ ditto/ kecleon/ regigigas/ arceus>80 bp / 5-8 pp / the user highest offensive stat>type: any type eevee can evolve, but can't be the same type the user is unless said mon is normal / changes according to the food you give your mon (fuck if i'd force flareon to waste its item slot)>effect: gains stab if the user is part of the evolutionary line of eeveeboltbeam for jolteon and glaceon, flareon can hit ground and dragon for SE
>>58696002>>58696581>>58698181>>58715578Good to see enough people know the obvious answer. Even Fluffy would be interesting enough if taking EQ and Rock Slide sounds too overbearing.
She's ok now :)
>>58695974Give it Play Rough.
>>58695998>spinoff game
>>58745802Leave her alone.
>>58751886Leave threads that aren't supposed to be image spam alone.
>>58749044No one is ever going to convince me that Flareon isn't the cannon eeveelution until we get a nomarl eevee evolution
>>58754840Jolteon and Flareon were the first Eeveelutions after all, designed by the same designer as Eevee
>>58696847he was right
So jeetspammer is the one who's actually responsible for the flood of Eevee threads, right?
>>58697792You are an idiot. Lgpiss has the most littlekiddish uncreative moves ever.
>>58695974FLARE BLITZLAREBLUTZ
>>58760541Jeetspammer is the one who's keeping them up due to his insistence that anyone against threads being full of off-topic images is just trying to fuel their Indian agenda
>>58754840Now that you mention it, yeah it kinda is just a red Eevee with added fur and a different tail
>>58765329>hair doodle on its head>fluffier tail, without a designBasically.
>>58695974>swap its hp and special attack>give it intimidate>make it a fire/dark type with parting shot, knock off, and u-turn
>oh no xaarrs oops I mean fellow fans I thought I was supposed to pretend muh chappy was the one bumping and exposing my samefaggin' jeetcord's ethnicity and agenda which will always be confirmed by the way I keep trying to cover them up and are always consistent unlike my ever-changing story which I only ever hide behind because I can't even pretend there was any hype when it was all just my ESL "discussion" with myself I was trying so hard to pretend I was laughing when I was sobbing helplessly because the REAL /vp/ wouldn't believe my lies and samefaggin'>xaarr stop taking care of fluffy little pets it's so rayciss that a single fluffball is more valuable than the lives of every single jeet it's so rayciss to bump threads unless you follow additional requirements from samefagggin' jeetcord groomaars which I can't even pretend are real requirements anymore so I just whine about bumping>remember xaarrs when a samefagggin' jeet wants to cover something up you just know it's the truth and whenever a samefagggin' jeet wants to make a claim you just know it's the opposite of the truth>remember xaarrs the poor oppressed op wanted the thread to die early so i can have more room for my shitty ads and even shittier porn it's very rayciss to notice that I don't actually give a shit about "derailing" which is another word a samefagggin' jeet will never understand and will just try to imitate or "spam" which is another word a samefagggin' jeet will never understand and will just try to imitate or "dumping" which is another word a samefagggin' jeet will never understand and will just try to imitate>please saar stop noticing that what i'm actually crying about is bumping which is why I try to pretend "muh chappy" is the one bumping these threads during my shartyjeet raids which are actual spam>aieeeee the thread got bumped again xaarrs why is the real /vp/ fed up enough to do the opposite of what the usual samefagggin' jeetcord groomaar wants save me chappy-sahib
