>ice type is actually good if you have 140 attack, 95 speed, 105 HP, and a free choice bandCampaignshitters, our response?
>bug type is actually good if you have 135 special attack, 105 special defense, 100 speed, and quiver danceWoah... maybe my preconceptions were wrong.... bug type IS good!
>>58703731ice is either overtuned or dogshit, and sadly theres no in-between
>>58703731Ice type is good if you have 50 speed and can tera away ice type and set up trick room
>>58703739Turns out, four generations later, it's even better if you can change your type. Imagine that.
>>58703731cloyster is none of those things and smogshit still banned it
>>58703731>mon is actually good if you give it good stats and a good abilityWAAAAAAOOOOOOWWW
>yeah rock type is actually good if you have Limber, Magma Armor, Immunity, Insomnia, Water Veil, and a ghost resist all in one
>>58703749Erm... Fanfic meta much?
>>58703749the humble shell smash:
>>58703754The thing that makes him good is tera and salt cure + protect
>fairy is actually a good type if you have 135 sp atk, 135 sp def, 135 speed
>Pokémon is good inspite of its shit type if you just makes it overpowered Only genius arguments on this board.Fairy shouldn't have resisted bug. Completely uncalled for change. The only positive meta change fairy made was being a very heavyhanded amateurish nerf to dragon and an alright buff to poison. Otherwise than that it actually just made the already strong types better and weak types weaker. You're not gonna tell me that fucking steel desperately needed to hit SE against one more thing while bug needed to resisted by one more thing and also fire totally needs to be a strong defensive type for some reason.Saying anyone believes ice is bad is a total falseflag btw.
>>58703770This. Flutter Mane is good in spite of its shit type.
Champagnechads, our resbonse?
Maybe all types fundamentally suck, but it's the stats, abilities and moves that compensate for the shittiness of the types.
>>58703770>Fairy shouldn't have resisted bug. Completely uncalled for change.I assume GF did that because of U-Turn, and failed to realize why people use U-Turn in the first place.
We could use another type shake up. >fairy no longer reists bug>water weak to ice as it fucking should be>bug resists darkAnd maybe restat a bunch of fully evolved bug types. The game has changed far too much to have weak mons be weak for the sake of being weak, especially when the same type has Pokémon like Scyther, Heracross, and Pinsir etc.Like, the early route bugs can all be optimized the same way mega beedrill was. Butterfree has a 45 attack stat? Reduce it to 15 and slap that extra 30 points into defense. when I as a kid I thought bugs were supposed to be tough because they had exoskeletons
>>58703796HOW IS THIS ALLOWED
>>58703731I feel like a lot of the reason people think of ice types as weak is just the amount of bulky ice type shitmons. The only ice type glass canons I can think of are Galar-Darmanitan and Chien-Pao and both of them got banned.
>>58703840Fairy and bug should be SE against each other for the same reason fighting and bug resist each other.Bug is too small to hurt big muscle man, but too evasive to be hit by big muscle man. So they resists each other.Bugs and fairies are both tiny, so they should be effective against each other.
>>58703767Xerneas don't have any of that n it was almost banned to AG
>>58703849Xerneas has the best boosting move in the game
>>58703796*hic*
>>58703731>140 attack, 95 speedThese are just normal good offensive stats
