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Which beta Pokemon have better designs than what was released?
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>>58705786
pic unrelated
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Is this missingno?

>>58705792
I actually prefer that. I hate those monkeys.
Where'd you find that?
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>>58705786
jaranra is better than tangrowth
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waiting for the thread to start
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nearly had a gen 3 scraggy
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>>58705802
these are 2edgy4pokemon but i like them on their own
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>>58705786
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>>58705844
Hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait one second.
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I'd love for them to do the non cross-dna trade Pokemon evolutions. They already have this one designed, surely there's a golem and machamp design set somewhere.
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>>58705892
that one's fake
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>>58705786
that one for sure
>>58705789
idiot
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>>58705873
>>58705874
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>>58705885
Pic unrelated
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>>58706078
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still waiting for the thread to start
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>>58705789
Pic absolutely related. Lickilicky should’ve been a baby Lickitung.
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This one
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>>58706891
braindead take
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>>58705786
>mustache jobmon vs fat featureless blob
They're both shit and Lickitung is unsalvageable.
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Give me cute moon kitty
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>>58705885
Sexo
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>>58705892
>>58705953
Looks like an SMT demon
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>>58705791
Can work as a paradox of Cacturne
Grass/Ground so sand won’t harm it
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>>58705953
Looks like a better homage to that alien starfish movie that Mega Starmie at least
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>>58706897
mein neger
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benis XDDD
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>>58706901
Imagine thinking otherwise
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>>58705786
The 5 pokemon that almost made it to GS but were cut days before the game was compiled. The original Mr. Mime pre-evo is better than Mr. Mime. It makes sense, the way the GBC works, it could only support 256 Pokemon.

Granted we don't know what this early Mamoswine or Yanmega would have looked.
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>>58708084
If Gen 2 went for a full 256, which 5 scrapped Pokémon did you wish made it?
I would've kept
>Kotora
>Raitora
>Madame
>Tsubomitto
>Leafy or Bomshikaa
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>>58705786
This will never not make me mad
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>>58708726
Same, anon. Robbed
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When is the thread going to start?
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>>58708084
Its funny because we (technically) got 4 of these if you count Sirfetch'd, but we never got an alternate evo for Weepinbell. And IMO, they probably built GSC's encounters around the finalized versions of these Pokemon, which is why Piloswine and Yanma both kind of suck, and Bellsprout/Farfetch'd are available pretty early on, and I could see them throwing Proto-Mime Jr. in around the daycare or something to make Mr. Mime available earlier as well.

Alternate Weepinbell evo probably would've sucked just as hard as Bellossom did, but proto-Mamoswine and Proto-Yanmega could've been cool.

>>58708660
It would've had to have been 255 at most, because they needed a space for Eggs.
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>>58705802
>Where'd you find that?
It's in the Black and White source repository.
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>>58708777
Right. Make that 4 Pokémon then.
>>58708780
I think Raitora is also cute. Kotora's design screams first stage of an evolution line at debut than debut Kotora in Gen 2, then add Raitora in Gen 4 more than many single stage Gen 2 Pokémon that got Gen 4 evos.
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>>58708084
>It makes sense, the way the GBC works, it could only support 256 Pokemon.

That doesn't make any sense. If you're talking about the 255 byte limit, then Pokemon in theory couldn't have HP totals about 255.

Just because they used a byte for an index in RBY doesn't mean they had to in GSC if they wanted 300 Pokemon.
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>>58705797
>>58705802
>>58705791
Pokemon is too faggy for cool designs like this, they belong in SMT or something
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>>58708881
Plus stuff like the leftover Korean Index like almost 500. iirc the final game did, which is why Polished Crystal had to scrap existing pokemon for cross-gen evos, but I think they've already found a way to circumvent that plus even change the PC Box to be like gen 3 and no need for saving.
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>>58708787
Thanks for that.
Totally weird that they had some very far along, full three Pokemon evolution lines, only to scrap them.

Like the snail/hermit crab dude they just went actually nevermind ANOTHER set of frogs.
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>>58708881
>Just because they used a byte for an index in RBY doesn't mean they had to in GSC if they wanted 300 Pokemon.
whether they HAD TO or not isn't really relevant, because they did.
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It's disappointing that Pokemon has never used its multiple instances of time and multiverse travel as an excuse to bring back some of the beta Pokemon. Pokemon like Madame, Tsubomitto or beta Porygon 2 would have been way better Paradox Pokemon than "Pokemon but robot" that we ended up getting.
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>>58709102
Yes I'm aware that it'll never happen now but it's still a little sad.
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>>58708891
>have a competently designed shell weapon themed three stage water line
>put fucking samurott in the game instead
god BW is such a rushed mess. We were fucking robbed.
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How does /vp/ feel about god pokemon?
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>>58708084
I am pissed about Tsubomitto
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>>58709099
I wanna see the non-trade evolutions for Pokemon like Machamp, Karrablast etc.

Agreed that it would be better than robots and caveman jigglypuff.
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>>58708084
I still want an alternate evo for the sprout line but after that mega evo and this guy I’m not so sure
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>>58705791
bring it back as its gigantamax form
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>>58709151
Uhm... I hate to break it to you but it was replaced with Sesmitoad. Samurott was already finished. There were THREE shell-wielding lines in the game at the time.
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>>58708084
Tsubomitto my beloved, I played through Kanto Expansion Pak recently primarily to play with it and the cut Pinsir evo, the ditto evo being usable and not miserable to use was also fun
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>>58706891
lickilicky as baby lickitung and both gurutung and rolitung as dual evos (making the lickiline a counterpart to the slowpoke line) would have been ideal
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>>58706905
personally I really like lickitung's design
but I love weirdmons and I especially love "second-stage" seeming mons. whether or not they're actually second-stage.
lickitung and scyther are two examples of mons like that.
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>>58710808
topkec...
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>>58705791
>>58707698
I’ve seen this design a few times, and I’m only now realizing it’s a quadruped and not an upper-body shot with the legs cut off
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>>58710710
>the shit design was already finished
because the game was rushed, yeah.
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>>58706897
This could easily be an alt female evo.
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I assume it became Spheal after getting scrapped for 2 gens. They look very similar.

Kotorra still looks better, even though I do like Spheal.
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>>58706300
You honestly prefer the Simisear we got?
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>>58705786
Kingdra's was the biggest offender
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>>58711368
I forgot about this one. Absolutely insane.
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>>58710704
this blood-thirsty fluffball deserved to live dammit
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He's better than Teddiursa.
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>>58711248
I see this often but I dunno, Spheal originally had no evos and was a meme mon meant to knock over the cut bowling pin penguin meme mon
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>>58712686
I wonder if he's cut because he's too similar to Sneasel
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>>58714167
That pin Pokemon is a baby delibird btw

It makes me wonder if the Gen 3 polar bear is a cut ursaring evo, it would've been the only cross gen evo if it was
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>>58706897
this, Sirfetch'd is fucking shit like the other ebin mememons
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>>58711368
>>58714248
I love this guy so much man. The current kingdra we could can literally just be a female evo
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>>58705797
>no bug steel past paradox metagross
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>>58714167
That's fucking hilarious. What a waste.

Reminds me of this.
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This looks so much better, they completely ruined it.
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>>58714247
I like it, but I wish Galarian Farfetch’d was a Farfetch’d evolution and Sirfetch’d was the third stage
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>>58710805
Yes, this. We live in the worst fucking timeline
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>>58714430
Bart Simpson lookin ass
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>>58710805
>this design that makes zero sense as a prevo being a prevo would be ideal
No, you’re just retarded.
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>>58714167
if hoenn was gonna add a bunch of shitmon pairs meant for double i'd rather they were these sorts of fun ideas rather than bland shit like volbeat and illumise
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>>58708726
>drastically lower tangela's special defense because it evolves now
>remove evolution at late stage in development
>do not readjust tangela's stats

Pure evil.
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>>58714167
Interesting that Seball has that lump on its forehead. Almost makes me think it was going to be a Seel pre-evo.
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>>58705850
They're the basis for final designs (except the missingno guy), they were toned down to be more Pokemon-y. Whoever the artist was did a very different Electrike as well, and you can see the beta Electrike sprite is like a halfway point between the final design and the edgy design.
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>>58715713
never noticed that because i've never used tangela but fuck that's evil
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>>58709099
I feel like they kind of cant at this point, since we know all these mons exist. They would need drastic redesigns, especially in today's mon design philosophy, and would probably be way shittier
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>>58715827
it's the same treatment Seadra got to demote it to NFE, but Seadra's evo didn't get cut like Tangela's
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>>58711368
Just Seadra with arms and whiskers. Kingdra feels more like a proper evo, same with beta Scizor vs final Scizor
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>>58715457
I liked this design. Simple, but it's a cool concept.
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>>58707698
It has Sand Veil...
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>>58705786
Here is my favorite Beta Pokemon. Same as yours but better. Plus it knows rollout!
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>>58714368
current Remoraid evolving into beta Octillery would’ve been fucking PEAK

it’s not FAIR
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>>58714475
lake lickilicky
shrink it's body down by like 80%
shrink it's head down by only 50%
it's a babymon
you're very aggressive. are you autistic by chance?
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>>58719755
>take [pokemon]
>change everything about it
>it's as if it's a different pokemon
ok, i believe you
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>>58721071
>this design would work better as a prevo. You just have to change its proportions a little, see?
>HURR DURR CHANGING EVERYTHING ABOUT IT YET U SAY IT SAME DESIGN????
doofus lol
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>>58714475
>less developed looking tongue
>less developed limbs
>less developed tail
>more simplistic curved pattern on belly
>bib pattern
>curl on its head, common in cartoon depictions of babies
Anon, almost everything about it screams “baby”
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Works for me.
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>>58722158
What the fuck, I assumed you changed something about it, because this works really well.

Hes got a bib, all the details are softer. His tail, tongu, mouth, limbs are all softer and less detailed.


How the fuck was this design approved.
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>>58722295
>I assumed you changed something about it,
He did you retard
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>>58722305
only a tiny bit
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>>58722116
>less developed looking tongue
>less developed limbs
>less developed tail
They look “less developed” because its body got bigger relative to those things you absolute dumbfuck

>betatard doesn’t know what a cravat is
>betatard doesn’t know what styled hair looks like
checks out
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>>58722316
>I only completely fucked up the proportions but it makes my fanfic work I swear :)
kys
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>>58722327
stop baiting for (You)'s, it's not funny any more.
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>>58711234
>>58714278
What is your damage
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>>58717417
kingdra took everything unique about seadra and sanded it all down until it was just a basic cartoon seahorse. the beta form was a proper evo that actually looks the typing
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>>58722621
it should have the cannon mouth at least
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>>58722322
>>58722327
Absolutely shit taste, you buffoon. Quit using buzzwords and get back to chubbychasing.
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>>58719174
Paradoxmon are limited to Protosynthesis or Quark Drive.
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>>58722621
You’re retarded
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>>58708726
Genuinely Tangrowth is such absolute dogshit why didn't they use this.
All other posters are wrong this is absolutely the worst one that got cut.
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>>58724415
i enjoy tangrowth
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>>58724439
Well fuck you!
We were robbed of the cute original design getting the professor treatment in Poketopia....
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>>58705789
fpbp
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Which Sneasel is the best Sneasel?
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>>58705786
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>>58725560
The very design on the left is the cutest, but also most generic. I think we ended up with the best design of the bunch.
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>>58724415
I mean they already canned the beta tangela and tangrowth matches tangela. At best youd just hope for some kind of convergent evo
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>>58722158
actually looks really cute now
need fanart of babytung, lickitung, gurutung, and rolitung hanging out together
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>>58722532
baby scyther? never seen this. was it from a new leak?
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>>58727270
beta scyther from publicly released gen 1 beta material
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>>58726913
Considering Tangrowth is an ancient form, you could still just introduce it like a regular evo.
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>>58722322
>styled hair
Anon, you're fooling yourself
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>hurrr why isn't snorlax the baby form?
>having stubbier limbs, less visible hair, and shorter ears is associated with babies
>I am very smart btw
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People who don't like Lickilicky never watched the Darkrai movie
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>>58729242
Who are you quoting?
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>>58727287
man that fella looks like he'd have a hell of a time just walking...
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>>58724439
cute!
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"Rizagan"
Unused Sableye evo
Found in Diamond & Pearl scratchpads
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>>58731301
we dodged a bullet
wish we dodged some more considering most gen 4 cross-gen evos
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>>58731342
True but even if it did happen it wouldn't look anything like this because it didn't even make it into the beta
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>>58731342
most crossgens are good tho



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