https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb8NUVIYWs0THERE IS NO WAY ASH COULD HAVE LOST THIS. They ruled out that he can't have Revives, even though that is a common item you can buy in the store of any Pokémon game. So by that same metric, Red would have won the fight while Ash lost because Red can keep reviving his monsters. And Red as a far better strategist and actually completed the Pokedex, so he had more monsters to use. Yugitards, the clock is still ticking.This debate is NOT solved.
>>58709543The last good one was Sauron vs Arthas
>Charizard to the 0-3>Pikachu to the 0-2KEKAFUCKINGROO!!!!
Show me a single white person who cares about this shitProtip: you can't
>>58709543Ash is a jobber
I'm Hitler speaking to you from Agartha, hidden under the ice of Antarctica where the Pleadians keep their spaceships, and I care about thisThe Jews want you not to care about this
>>58709543we do not need 8 threads for this
Raped by TaiRaped by Yugihahahahaha
>>58709543HOW IS ASH JUST 10?!HOW?!!! TIME PASSES, IN EVERY, SINGLE, DAMN, EPISODE!!!!I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THIS GUY IS JUST 10 BY THE END OF THE SERIES!Someone needs to calc his real age based on the passage of time in every episode.
>>58709543>Ash gets to use Revives, despite Revives not being in the ashimeThat’s be unfair not like it matters. Yugi has literal actual Egyptian Gods (plural), cards that can deal infinite damage, has canon luck manipulation, and since DB uses the best version and Ash gets to have items that don’t exist for him Yugi also gets an auto-win card in Exodia
>>58709576Yes we do. ashfags need to learn shame
Why are Death Battle fags so autistic?
stop spamming this shit, no one cares
Please tell me they use the joke>yugi summons time wizard on Ash>he stays 10 years old
>>58709605It's shipping but for men
>>58709576If it's about making fun of Ashfags, it's the exception
>>58709543https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp4fxe75810
Revives would be useless since Yugi could straight up prevent it from working
>>58709543What did you expect from a kid who didn't even know about type advantages until 20 years later lmao
>>58709589He's technically 11 after Kukui's kid was born which implies 9 months have passed when he was in Alola
>>58709576Ash haters need validation since he lives in their heads rent free and the Likonime is a flop.
How is it bullshit? Ash is a fucking LOSER. Gary told you from the start.
If only if Yugi's opponent is Mark and this became a video of how broken each game are.
Obviously, I'm not watching that shit because I don't want to give a view to DB even with adblockers, but Pokemon in general has a much lower power ceiling with most headcanons coming from the Pokedex or "lore" for legendaries. Makes sense as they're just their equivalent of animals, their ecology, they can't all go around destroying planets of shit. And that's how I like it, I prefer lower power level stuff, when the discussion leads to people saying shit like MFTL+++ and Multiverse destroying, dimension breaking and whatnot, it makes me want to hurt people who say shit like that and the writers who wrote that stuff.
>>58709543do revives even exist in the anime? in any case it wouldn't have made any difference going up against gods
>>58709543No one cares fag
>>58709559The hosts are played by whites
Why is eceleb faggotry ok if it's from before 2010?
The most one sided fight in history and they had Ash run laps around Yugi, btfo Atem and overpower the final beam with Z-move just for it to be redirected back at him.They could have had Ash's loss be pathetic like Red but they chose to make him a monster who got contained by his own power.
>>58709543lmao cry harder ashfag, your show is trash
>Charizard jobs to Ojamas
>>58709841>Ojamaskino
>>58709543What did you expect Yugi is some sort of low tier reality warper. He could bend the rules of reality as long as it sorta complies with the games rules
>>58709768and the audience is browns
>>58709543Why do you people put so much attention into some random ass YouTube channel posting arbitrary shit that has no bearing on anything?It's nothing more than some faggots judging over which animu they prefer. Who fuckin' cares?
brown people raped me and so did yugi and tai
>>58709543>beat the gods of his series >controls them>fuses them>basically becomes a god of the series himselfvs>jobberwoah
>>58709761good pointI have not seen any afaikeven if there are, it is ultra rare then
>>58709998I guess zoomers need to have all their opinions prompted by influencers. Otherwise they don't know what to think.
>>58709543The biggest problem here is they have Yugi himself use Atem's ability when they are disconnected. They entirely forgot that Yugi himself never maintained that ability on his own, which is also why DSoD required Atem to come back for the final move. This is also on full display during their ceremonial battle where Atem uses it liberally and Yugi never uses it once.Even with that in mind, they needed to pick a canon proper. The anime has a lot of filler arcs and later anime like GX and 5Ds are incompatible with DSoD, but they seemed wont to use every and all feats despite this.They also should have tried to round this into a proper battle that confirms closer to a compromised form of rules. I get they wanted the animation storytelling, but it ended up being chaotic and arbitrary nonsense a lot of the time. The whole life points on Yugi's end makes little sense when he's the only one with that aspect. Essentially, they failed to create a proper equal environment for both players and it ends up coming off as cheap.
>>58709998Death Battle is sports for mega autists.It's insane how seriously people take these videos when all the numbers are so obviously their headcanon. That's not to say they're necessarily wrong about outcomes, it's when they start making statements like "X can lift 957 billion trillion pounds" that it takes me out the video because the original author of the character definitely never thought that.
YGO vs Digimon - who wins?
>>58710053Yugioh clears. I don't think people give enough credit to the ridiculouness YGO has in its pocket should you allow the cards to be physical beings.
>>58710053>YGO vs Digimon - who wins?Digimon has a few digimon that can solo YGO-verse
>>58710081Your favorite digimon would KNEEL to a puny squirrel princess from YGO if we include game original YGO cards unbound by the anime.
>>58710081This is what the world looks like according to popping two cards at the cost of 1 dragon, what is Digimon's response?
>>58709761Not in the ash anime.They've been seen exactly once in one of the others.
>>58710053Digimon's powerscaling is inconsistant as fuck. If you take the literal lore then Magnamon alone would fuck everything because of his "fuck you i win cuz miracles".Wargreymon himself has an insta win against "dragons". Omegamon deletes anything it's sword touches Megidramon destroys the world by existing.But if you take anime feats its less consistant. Wargreymon one shots Metalseadramon and Mugendramon but jobs to Diablomon but then solo kills zeed millie in the remake.
>>58710098>what is Digimon's response?Multiversals and server admin level powers (Jesmon GX)
>>58710116>solo killsThat wasnt solo lolAnd that Zeed was much weaker than the og one from Wonderswan.Anyway yeah, game and manga digimon are much stronger than animes
>>58710122>MultiversalsCool, YGO got shit that rebuilds time and space itself.
>>58710116>Wargreymon himself has an insta win against "dragons"Based.
>>58710133Put buster blader and his pet dragon together vs Digimon, what are they doing when they're all Dragons and are about to take that BBC (Big Buster COCK)?
>>58710135You mean all the dragons that cannot use their abilities and are forced into defense?
>>58710137Yes, all Dragons (and things turned into dragons) are going to be TRAPPED and BETRAYED in Buster Blader's rape dungeon.
>>58709543>They ruled out that he can't have Revives, even though that is a common item you can buy in the store of any Pokémon gameThey rarely even use items in the Pokemon anime, the most common item they use are potions, and only AFTER battles, never during>So by that same metric, Red would have won the fight while Ash lost because Red can keep reviving his monstersRed is commonly only ever shown with 6 Pokemon, Pikachu, Charizard, Blastoise, Venusaur, Snorlax and Lapras, if you want to push it, you could also give him Espeon, but any other Pokemon he has is never shown, so as far as we are aware, he only has 6/7 Pokemon, meaning it would have been a harder stomp in Yugi's favor, unless they limited Yugi's deck to like the final decks he used in his series or something
>>58709740Yu-Gi-Oh is one of the few card games that lacks a resource system, making the gameplay a lot faster paced then most other card gamesYugi would have stomped Mark before he really got a chance to really get started doing anything
>>58710135Yggdrasil herself would personally get involved and remove him if we're talking the Digimon Story or Digimon Next version of her. Ignoring her, he also gets hard countered by Mother Eater or Neo.
>>58710147The final deck Yugi has still has the God Cards and Holactie.Using a revive in pokemon also wastes a turn so any revived mon would likely just cost another. If we real timed it it still isn't good for red because that means he manually has to either run up to the corpse or call it back and throw it out again then feed it the revive.Its a lot slower than just playing a card.
>>58710037GX and 5Ds are to show that Atem's ability to get any card he wants isn't actually a special power, but an ability in universe that Duelist are able to train themselves to do
>>58710158Which fails when it isn't as far as the OG manga and DSoD are concerned...you know...the canon material.
>>58710160Its almost like theres a movie for that or something...
>>58710166That movie follows the non-canon version of events. As said, the canon version is with the OG Manga and DSoD. It's fine if they want to use one over the other, but they were trying to use both, which doesn't work.
Fucked up part about powerscaling YGO is that if you go by anime-only stuff, you can find enough exploitable stuff that makes the Digimon matchup a little more doable or how Pokemon cards could have a strong shot at fighting YGO... Until you remember that PokeTCG's recent rape session from a fucking Budew locking the opponent from using some cards, something that's BABY food for YGO since in this degenerate card game, you can interact with the opponent on THEIR TURN to the point we coined a term called Turn 0, for decks that can FULLY PLAY COMBOS DURING THE OPPONENT'S FIRST TURN, and that's without mentioning handtraps.YGO has some surprise *teleports behind u* sucker punches if you powerscale them that they'd make Dragon Ball blush. Please do not let the powerscalers study the OCG-original shit Konami has been printing these past 5 years.
Actually fuck it, here's a taste of what Yugioh has in its original non-anime cards.
>>58710171>>58710151https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6wRn2XuDUM
>>58710181If you want to powerscale pokeTCG cards and match them to YGO, be aware that YGO is VERY DEGENERATE and any kind of card you can think of can instawin on the spot is immediately met with the most horrid thing about YGO as a card game: Handtraps.Ash Blossom herself just giga filters everything, if she was an actual pokemon, she'd have a Fake out that can be used more than once.
Ash should have pulled up with Tearlaments.
>>58710081Laughts in Metaphys.
>>58710193Dude, the fact that a single board wipe in Pokemon instantly ends the game means that a simple Raigeki would get the job done.
>>58710211I love this yugioh artist who does that shadowing that makes everything look plasticky and gummy. He likely did shit like Alien Shocktrooper. I hate yugioh doesn't list artists.
Yugioh's weakest card be like>Holy fucking shit a fucking OMNIVERSAL-SCALE monster that is depicted as this allmighty lord creatorBut pic related is among the strongest cards in the game's history.
>>58710251Actually this is the description of the weakest monster across all the Yu-Gi-Oh multiverse lore.
>>58710261What’s the point of this card?
>>58710160>>58710170Yu-Gi-Oh anime is it's own continuity, so its canon to itself
>>58710251I'd omniversal dick her down
>>58710264Making this absolute unit.
>>58710261>Fusion Material for one of the OG banned fusion monstersNah, calling that card weak is like calling Skull Servant weak and you do not want to call me Skull Servants weak when these fucking boners get so boneful, they get ATK points in the 5 digits. Literally Jiren-tier.
>>58709768>>58709991Many such cases.
>>58710224The issue you run into with scaling against Yugioh cards directly is that every conversation comes down to>can you run over gameceil the sea turtle kaijuAnd no I don't mean that this is the strongest yugioh card, this is card your opponent gets to play>but thats notnope its yours now your card is gone you now, you control gameciel the sea turtle kaijuthis is yugioh
lol imagine trying to fight off a ygo player with pokemon cards and he hits you with this on your first search card
>>58710265Reread what I said because I'm not going to loop with you. It's fine if they want to use that continuity, but they specifically tried to use both that one and the legit one, which do not mix. I don't get what you're failing to understand here.
>>58710363Multiple Yu-Gi-Oh games, and other shit just merges the anime and manga continuity of the original series, this is nothing new to even official Yu-Gi-Oh works
>Ash-Greninja killed atemBased desu>needed to be SWORD OF LIGHT'D to be stoppedTruly second strongest mon
>>58709543This board is so obviously underage, holy fuck. I refuse to believe any adult would seriously care about this retarded cringe garbage.>>58709617Fucking kek.
>>58710366You're just adding more nonsense to the discussion at this point. The manga and anime adaptation contradict one another and the games that use both like the mobile games do multiverse nonsense to have it both ways and to pad content. It's not indicative of anything and the characters from each continuity still remain separate even there as shown by Pegasus and his scenes referencing his own death.
>>58710053Dont digimon users run one monster only?Both have multiversal insane shit, but ygo is the only one that gives the duelist power when their monsters are gone in the form of traps.Hell Atem wasnt even beneath running directburn loops like beserkersoul or "cowardly" mill strategies so long as it involved battle at somepoint.Modern ygo at the point where they can make all their plays on your first turn, before they even had a turn
>>58710377Does it fucking matter? Yugi would have won regardless of the continuity
Who can beat him?
>>58710416I can beat him off haha
Never watched these “death battle” videos before>20 minutes of 2 commentators talking about the characters + product placement>6 minutes of death battle>4 more mins of the commentators dragging out the videono thanks
>>58709543>Yugi has a multiversal creator god at his beck and call >all Ash has is a universal lion, he never owned Arceus(and even then, Arceus is a fraud) It was obvious the whole time
Did Ash actually catch Solgaleo? I haven't watched the anime in forever, because otherwise what was preventing him from summoning Arceus or some other busted legend
Ash is retired and dead
Remember ash lost against a snivy level 1
Ash is trash, it should be a better and more popular protagonist from other series this is a shame for yugi
Ash jobbed with a 4x type advantage, refuses powerups and jobbed on the series anniversary he aint winning against a duelist not afraid to play cheap.
>>58710443He didn’t catch it, but he befriended Nebby and the anime counts it as one of his Pokemon like the Larvitar he carried around at the end of Johto.
>>58709543Putting aside the unrestrained niggardly autism of caring about powerscaling, reminder that Death Battle thinks that Rainbow Dash (small blue horse) could beat Starscream (giant robot that turns into an F-15 Eagle).
>>58709543Ahahaha ashkek never had a chance>Journey ashPfhhaha disgusting
GET FUCKEDPOKEFAGS
>>58710053The Milleniummons and Jesmon GX hard carry digimon. It'd all depend on if Yugioh has anything that can match casual timeline alteration/deletion.I think Visas lore had him reset the world, Same with the duel terminal ultrabosses, but that'd only be 1 universe/timeline. Lower tier stuff like Omnimon X can handle a single world reset. I can't think of any multiversal threats for yugioh off the top of my head.
>>58710372This. >lmao lol some guys wrote a fanfic where your guy gets killed lmao are you mad yetNigga who the fuck is autistic enough to care?
>>58709768>aryans finesse shitskins once again
i would care of the pokemon anime were cool or ash was cool but it's not pkmn is dora the explorer tier
>>58710688if the pokemon anime*
"Let's make the underdog win so more people talk about it online for free publicity" the show.
How was this ever a debate anyway? Did anyone actually argue about this? YGO vs Pokemon is like nuclear bomb vs coughing baby (and the nuclear bomb can be built around hard-countering coughing babies in particularly).
>>58710867>How was this ever a debate anyway? Did anyone actually argue about this?There were plenty of threads about this matchup before it got announced and the strongest argument Ashfags had was that he was physically strong.
Ash is faggot
>>58710840Ash lost in this episode.
>>58709543That's nice and all OP, however, MIND CRUSH
>>58709621Idc about death battle or the anime but I saw the date was in late 2016 and I felt my mood physically drop goddamn
>>58710875Well from what I recall Tai did chimp out and start beating the shit out of Red in the pokémon vs digimon one for some reason
>>58709543TrAsh is a career loser and jobber. Him winning would have been bullshit. Keep crying, self-inserters. Liko would have won, btw.
>>58710116Every other digimon's description is like "this digimon is an invincible fighter", "it bears the ultimate offensive power" or "it stands above all other digimon" chuuni shit even when they're champion levelThey actually feel like they're written by children even more than pokedex descriptions
Yugi>Has an ancient pharaoh inside his mind who also happens to be a master strategist (which includes luck and blatantly cheating tbf)>Has an entire deck containing monsters and literal actual fucking gods from egypt>Including a god whose who thing is automatically winning a fight aftet gathering all his limbs (requires luck why Yugi just fucking manipulates)>Has monsters that can reflect damage and create an infinite damaging attack>Most characters in the series are straight up trying to kill each other over a card game, so he has experiance with actual dangerAsh>Didn’t know about the type chart until over the last quarter of his career>Gets half of his badges by doing some other task that doesn’t require fighting>Has monsters too but only one is close to being godlike is a giant metal lion who is more like a strong alien>Rest of monsters under his control are B superhero tier at best, some aren’t even at their strongest stage>Besides maybe a few times over 20 years, no one tries killing each other, including the actual criminals>In fact one of the biggest threats to Ash’s journey was a hand gun
Qrd on what happened and why is this trend shitting up the board?
The only part of this I enjoyed was the little GB sprite render of pikachu vs dark magician
>>58710608>MilleniummonDesign to be a jobber final boss tier Digimon, and always loses despite how strong that series tries to pretend it is
>>58710999Ashfags went into hiding after the ptsd meltdown and this rallied them
>assuming I care about Ash lmao
>>58710948Unlike here where it was seen as an official match, Red thought Tai's Agumon was a wild Pokemon and challenged them to a battle, with Tai just seeing it as a random stranger attacking them for no reasonOpponent wise Yugi would have made more sense with Red, as they both would follow a similar line of thought when it comes to battle, while there would be no excuse not to have Ash fight back when Tai throws hands, but Ash has more Pokemon options, so he made more sense to battle Yugi, despite lacking the use of items like Red should be able to use
>>58710098Omnimon X destroying then remaking a multiverse with one attack.
>>58711042everyone loses, anonincluding the strongest YGO villains/monstersWonderswan Mille only lost to plot and subconcsious self-sabotage
>>58711051it was a universe
>>58711055According to Digimon Crosswars, the "digital world" refers to the entire multiverse, and the human world is just one of those universes.
>>58709543This is the first Dead Battle since Homelander vs Obniman where both fandoms want the same guy to win!
>>58710999/co/fags think Headcanon Battle is more relevant than it is and it needs 50 threads on /vp/.
>>58710608> I can't think of any multiversal threats for yugioh off the top of my head.>>58710211
When did Solgaleo light up a universe? I know Ultra Necrozma did the opposite and drained all the suns in the Ultra Recon Squad's universe but Solgaleo is not presented as Ultra Necrozma's equal.
Pokemon as a verse, just isn't that strong when compared to the other "monster catching/summoning" series. The only series it has a leg up against is Monster Hunter, and that's only by virtue of MH explictly taking great pains in making its world as grounded as possible while still being "anime" Unless MH Stories is hiding some secret cosmic bullshit I don't know about
Enough about this mid matchup, show me Pokémon fights you want to see>Cell vs Zygarde>Krookodile vs Killer Croc>Mewtwo and his army of the cloned kantomons vs Magneto and the Brotherhood of Mutants>Arceus vs YHVH (SMT)>Scizor vs Spider-Man>PMD!Dusknoir vs Magolor
this is ass, yugi can't use atem destiny manipulation powers and can't control god or horakhty, and horakhty just wins it anyway without magic cylinder, and incineroar is on pair with greninja and charizard when it comes to his aces from 2020+ era
>>58711116>The only fight here any mon stands a chance is Krookodile vs Killer Croc
>>58711135Bullet Punch after SD > Spider-Mist
>>58711135Hey i did say fights i didn't say they have to be accurate
>>58710251I'll say this for Pokemon, at least its legendaries are viable in a competive sense. Or at last some of them are
Ash is pretty weak even for a protag.Yami has true Gary Stu powers so no shit he wins whatever the video presents it as (like I'm watching it LOL)
Hey! They undersold Black Luster Soldier while they oversold Celtic Guardian!
>>58711198>I proudly don't watch the anime of either Sasuga /vp/
Not going to watch it because lol, but comparing two series with drastically different rules doesn’t make much sense anyway.Duel Monsters is a turn-based card game even in the Yu-Gi-Oh anime universe, but in the Pokemon anime universe the characters aren’t bound by the same rules as the games. Ash could just immediately have Pikachu go Thunderbolt Yugi because he isn’t restricted by turn order or resources.
>>58711251Long story short. Yugi has magic that can protect him from that, and if characters really wanted to not use the cards they can, but they to be magically powerful enough to do so, which Yugi is
>>58710251The strongest mosnter in Yugioh history is literally just a bunch of cockroaches hiding under your furniture.
>>58711284Not so fast bugs
>Gave ASH nearly all of his Pokemon instead of just six>Gave him a legendary out of pity>Give him the point in experience>He still fucking lostWell, at least he turned to stone and didn't get Red vs Tai treatment.
>highest possible attack stat in Pokemon is Mega Mewtwo X with 526>Pic related has more than 3 times that while being nothing special
>>58711297>*CHAIN LINK 3*>>58711309Its worse than you think, between the two Yugi was more downplayed. His arsenal wasn't even scratched compared to ash. When Ash is already bringing out Solgaleo against Slifer alone you know he lost, and they just flat out omitted Slifer's 2nd mouth, which should have just oneshot Gigantimax Gengar when it was sent out.I don't think people realize just how fucking stomped Ash really was.
>>58711355shocked there was no mirror force, spellbinding circle, timeus, etc....
> All this time Atem could kill Leviathan , Zorc and Diabound with Magic Cylinder but he choose not too.You can see garbage writing from here.> But Traps and spell cards does not affect D-Numeron Dragon scales higher than Egyptian cards and it is not immune from traps. The immunity of traps and spell cards are exclusive to Egyptian card unless you can show me Zorc and Leviathan cards that says " Unaffected by traps and spells".
>>58711309Yugi boy went easy on that faggot
>>58711396Numeron dragon is from zexal.It becomes very difficult to link DM to any anime past 5DS.you have to go into mobile game scaling to do it, and the result would still probably be a stronger yugi
>>58711406So ? He scales way higher than Zorc and Leviathan so if traps works on him means it also supposed to work on Zorc and Leviathan unless their cards says no. Atem could not use traps on them because he wasn't dueling them, it was an actual fight and card game mechanic won't work there. Not to mention 10 million bolt did not turn people to statue .that Yvetal's Oblivion winds.
>>58711309>Yugi didn't use Polimerization to summon Dark Paladin >Buster Blader, Gandora, Valkyrion, Magician Of Chaos and Black Luster Soldier were undersold >Kuriboh didn't miltiply >No Timaeus >No Mahat >No Exodia >No Dark Hole >No Mirror Force >No Thousand Knifes, Difution Wave Motion, Magical Dimention or Magic Hats >Still a curbstomp in Yugi's favor
>>58709756actually every pokemon is MFTL+++ because golem can dodge solar beam in pokemon go
They insist Pokemon cosmology is smaller than Yugioh despite original Yugioh never mention anything about multiple parallel YGO universe and only had various dimensions while Pokemon anime introduce multiple pokemon universe with 6 different alternate Ash and various dimension outside of Sinnoh Legendary. You know that Deathbattle will never respect Ash and pokemon because it handle by losers with no respect for Pokemon to begin with and downplays it regardless their feat and lores.
>>58709756Arceus is considered among five strongest video game characters despite all the SMT and Digimon game. Pokemon scales way higher but most powerscaler downplays it because their favorite franchise aren't as popular than Pokemon. You can see from DB insistence that Pokemon cosmology being smaller despite the anime and game already pr shown pokemon cosmology to be at the same level as DC and Marvel.
>laser exists in franchise>every character is now FTLthis is my favorite FTL character, whats yours
>>58711466>so?Kazuki Takahashi did not write Zexal and purpsoefully distanced it from his own work in an interview about it.
>>58711482> You know that Deathbattle will never respect AshLike no sane person ever should
>>58711380We didn’t even see any fusion monsters, even the Duelist Kingdom ones like Gaia the Dragon Champion
>>58711501>Arceus is considered among five strongest video game charactersAmong which characters? Considered by who? This means literally nothing. Morbius is considered a top five known movies alongside Madame Web by Sony Pictures. Surely everyone is just downplaying it.Arceus was hurt by one Thunderbolt from Pikachu after his 10000-year recovery slumber without the Electric Plate. No bullshit super moves, the same Thunderbolt that couldn't touch Giratina from the same movie trilogy got the better of god. An auditorium of Pokemon using non-stab Tbolt including Linoones and Nosepass also beat god within an inch of its life. Pokemon power scaling is incredibly inconsistent because there is none.
Arceus ain't winning anything as multiversal gods are just normal occurrence in ygo.
>>58710086you're telling me YGO had kemono fur bait monsters this entire time? Are YGO fans more degenerate then Pokemon fans?
>>58711504by far my least favorite part of that channel. You can literally count frames and time the exact speed of the laser or lightning to see it's clearly not moving that fast and is some cartoon laser that's slower than real ones. It's a transparent attempt to make big numbers for shock value.There's lots of other fun stuff to calc without making shit up, like how duelists can cause gales of wind by drawing cards.
>>58711615>multiversal godsYa no . Yugioh barely has anything to do with multiverse, the only series that ever mention multiverse was Arc-V but turns out it was a single YGO verse spilt into four.
>>58711659Yes. Here’s your playmat bro
>>58711659It's a TCG of course it's more degenerate
>>58709595Yugi never had Exodia at the same time as the god cards.
>>58711659How do you feel about Corruption fetishes cause god damn we got a lot of that
>>58711504They completely ignore aim dodging is also a thing>I didn't stand in front of the gun before he shot itguess I'm also hyper-sonic speed IRL
>>58711659Rella is my favorite
>>58711721I think DB's channel is finally dying off because people realize how stupid this shit is.
>>58711728Wow, people are very slow to realize that.
>>58711717I'm in the wg/inflation fetish community, I know you guys have a candy house card that force feeds monsters if they meet a certain attacking power requirement until they're obese and explode
>>58711309Ash really needed all the help he could get. This battle is essentially a child and his pets fighting multiple gods at once.
>>58711659>>58711725Always nice to see people see the light
>>58711690Each card-archetype is its own universe anon.
>>58711827What God? What the heck those Egyptian card ever did to be called God? Does they has any role in YGO universe origin and stability? What is the lore that supposed to make them God? What feats that they accomplished that so much better than regular pokemon that supposed to make them God? Truth is, the only reason they are refer as God on Yugioh series because ancient Egyptian called them God . They haven't done a thing different than regular monster to be classify as God.
>>58711911>What the heck those Egyptian card ever did to be called God?They smite people who piss them off like Odion.
>>58710053The biggest issue is effect monsters rarely having lore attached so we don't know just how powerful things like Archnemeses and Regenesis are meant to be. >>58710081None of them can solo Holactie and probably a handful of other monsters would put up a strong fight. >>58710608There was a whole yugioh anime series about parallel universes.
>>58711972>AnonymousOh you mean something regular pokemon can do? Something regular monster can do?
>>58711983>There was a whole yugioh anime series about parallel universesThere isn't.Arc-V is the only one come close but turned out it was just a single verse split into four different versions based on summoning methods. Since nobody from Original series showed up means Konami probably doesn't have the rights for them.
>>58711999Strictly speaking it's only a lightning bolt but it's given a distinction from something like summoned skull zapping you. Summoning the monsters to reality happened many times but it's one of the rare instances of a monster just outright striking you down for offending it with no outside magic helping it manifest, meaning it can just smite people from egyptian heaven whenever it wants. That being said they're definitely lowercase g kind of gods where their scope is very limited. Holactie is the capital G kind.
>>58711911The answer is yes, but the niche nostalgia anime about card games doesn't flesh things out as much as 1200+ episodes of pokemon with like 60 games.
Pokemon is a weak franchise
>>58712151It's notIt's just the top tiers are so much above most of the cast like. If you put a weavile in naruto verse for example it would kill most of the first part characters that aren't kages because it would be so much faster than them and hits above their weight class. It also resists psychic abilities so you'd have to be the best genjutsu user in the world in that part just slow it down.
>>58711911What do legendaries besides arceus do to ever be called gods? They are just particularly strong cats or dogs. Dialga and Palkia jobbed and got enslaved by an autistic man like Cyrus
>>58711999Regular monsters in DM need a sorceror/duelist supplying it Ka to exist. GX aliens are fueled by cosmic forces of light and darkness. 5DS demons possess people and leech off the souls of human sacrifices, and homicidal robots are constructed by the will of sub-atomic particles called Ener-D.Ra smote Odion by itself. Not from a Millenium Item, not from possession, not from an illusion. Ra saw Odion playing a counterfeit card outside of a Shadow Game and decided to erase his neurons. Ra can act and observe by his own influence without a physical medium, and Horakty is stronger than that.Pokemon can't dodge without being told to.
>>58710037Also, if you've watched season 0, it also throws Yugi and Atem's characters out the window.
>>58711755which card?
>>58710958>TrAsh is a career loser and jobber. Him winning would have been bullshit. Keep crying, self-inserters. Liko would have won, btw.Liko would have lost twice as hard. Don't get ahead of yourself waifufag.
>>58712233I have never referred any Pokémon as God, its irrelevant and I only see them as fictional monsters and judge their strength based on their lore and feats. Unlike lazy YGO fags who thinks Egyptian card beats everything on Pokémon because they are called "God" by ancient Egyptian people in the series even though they never a single thing that classify them as God . In actuality, they are just regular monster that serves a human pharaoh, not gods.
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>>58712315>source: my prolapsed anus
>>58711198The charm of Yugi is that he's already pretty much at the top, and you are seeing how he can pull off a victory, even when his opponents are pretty awful peopleYugi's best friend, Joey, is the actual underdog character, as he starts that series pretty shit at dueling, but works his way up into being a respected duelist by the end of the series, he gets the hero's journey, just he's not the protagonist, but he's still one of Yugi's number 1 ride or diesJoey's development got to a point where he actually almost defeats the main antagonist of the Battle City arc
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>>58712387Fun fact: Joey vs Marik was seen as the biggest plot ex machina across all anime until Ash vs Leon where nobody even could justify Leon's defeat.By the way, since most of the stadium was on Leon's side and were bongs what should have followed Ash victory should have been the biggest bong brawl in anime.
>>58712254Not to mention that all the gods drove the people who tried turning them into cards so insane they killed themselves. All from them looking at images of the stone tablet the gods were depicted on. The only reason Pegasus could make them into cards was because he had the millennium eye.
>>58712405Joey vs Marik worked, because Marik wasn't taking Joey seriously, so he was playing with his food the whole duel, to cause Joey as much suffering as possible, it just backfired on Marik, because it lead to Joey almost beating himAsh had a lot of plot armor during the Pokemon World Tournament, and he realistically shouldn't have even gotten passed Steven, he barely beat Cynthia, and even with as many things that went his way during the Leon battle (being allowed 3 gimmicks, made into 4 later, Leon's Cinderace who had taken no damage going down in one hit, so they could end the battle on Pikachu vs Charizard without Leon having an extra Pokemon so he'd win by default) Ash still barely defeated Leon, Pikachu passed the fuck out after everything was said and done
>>58712405The final battle should have been Ash x Cynthia, or at least Steven. Ash x Lance would have made more sense plotwise because they actually went on adventures together. Leon just doesn't feel like a powerful champion, and he uses a very subpar Pokémon as his ace that plays a minor part in the team of another champ.It did not help that Pikachu had type advantage and speed advantage against Leon's Charizard.
>>58712315>because they are called "God" by ancient Egyptian people in the series even though they never (did) a single thing that classify them as Godlol
>>58712254>Ra can act and observe by his own influence without a physical mediumThat's basically what regular monster does! After all, I wasn't talking about duel monster when I meant regular monster, I mean all the physical monsters such as King Kong or Kraken. >Pokemon can't dodge without being told to.Oh we supposed to ignore all the time Ash's Pokémon dodge attack without Ash being near them because you say so. The very fact that Ra can not manifest in physical world without Ka from human makes him pathetic and lower than human.
>>58711501>Arceus is considered among five strongest video game charactersIt wouldn't be in the Top 10, not for Vidya and not for Anime. You'd be surprised to find out the God of the Pokeverse is actually weak shit compared to a lot of truly bullshit characters. Go to power level wikis and you'll only see a fraction of the autism contained in pages, and the comments and threads are somehow worse. Not saying Arceus is "weak," but there will always be writers that try to one up bullshit that exists and want to continue pushing things further and further.
Both of them still job to Bobobo.
>>58709543HAHAHA POKEMON DAGS DESERVE THIS. FUCK YOUR FRANCHISE.
>>58713516I find it very concerning how much Yugifags value this youtube video.
>>58713532Thats clearly shaunberg you can practically smell the prolapse
>>58713460They're bros.>>58713532Look this shit is autistic as fuck but the reason for that is Yugioh largely wasn't taken seriously when it came to powerscale slop while Pokemon was overvalued. People are laughing at Pokemon for being Fraudchecked.Though I'd argue the appeal of pokemon was never to be DBZ in the first place so really who the fuck cares?
>>58709543You completely missed the part where it said revives don't act like they do in the anime than they do in the games. I don't think the anime every showed anyone using a revive and they just jump right back up to full fighting form. The duel monsters do fucking insane things in their flavor text, way more insane than the lightly insane pokedex feats (and I still hate how people regard the pokedex entries as real feats when they've never been demonstrated in game, tcg, anime, etc)
>>58709543First Kalos, now this. Holy fuckin kek at Ashfags taking non-stop losses
>>58709543kids wb all ready did this with their old saturday morning promos
>>58709717then less than 3 months total passed over the rest of the series
>>58710981let's look at yugioh flavour text now
>>58710338i sacrifice it to el barto
GIWTWM
>>58709543Ash loses to generic fucking trainers. Yugi is literally unbeatable at any game he sets his mind on because of his Millennium Puzzle.It was never close. Ash sends out his shitty Pikachu and 5 other Pokemon, then Yugi sends out 40 or so monsters, many of which would be 600+ BST legendaries in Pokemon. One Blue-Eyes White Dragon is mascot legendary tier.
>>58713922This. Ash canonically would only have 6 pokemon anyways. This is game and anime rules. A duel deck can have dozens of monsters. With all of the bullshit cards there are, you could probably find ways to infinitely revive monsters, and instantly clear the opponents field of monsters, even though I barely know jack about yugioh
>>58713922"World Champion" Ash still jobs to fucking Misty, it's clear his actual power is completely unreliable.
>loses to a level 5 snivy>loses to alain>loses to misty>loses to season 1 yugi>loses to season 1 royAsh's century of humiliation
>>58714049you forgot Viola's level 10 Surskit mogging the hell out of him, in the supposed HYPE season no less.
>>58712387Joey actually beat Yugi at the end of Battle City too.
>>58710338for a card game where you have to squint and decipher walls of unformatted text, you'd think this anon could type a sentence I can actually fucking understand
>>58709543IT ALLCOMESDOWNTO THE HEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRT
>>58714049>>loses to season 1 yugithis was clearly post millennium world yugi as he had horakthy also yugi scales to multiversal, an infinite multiverse even, losing to him ain't so bad, even goku couldn't beat him
>>58714445your impressive boss monster you spent turns building just got sacrificed to summon a turtle.
>>58714184Offscreen mind you, so a lot of people like to debate if he actually won, or if Yugi beat him, but still deemed Joey worthy of being gifted back his Red Eyes, since the whole point was Joey wanted to become a "true duelist" before he felt like he deserved Red Eyes back from Yugi
what is the pokemon equivalent to this
>>58715653Considering that's a Spell Card.Old school Professor Oak lets you dump your hand and draw 7. You can run 4. Most people didn't.
>>58715653This reminds me that full-powered Arceus jobbed to a meteor the same size as it, all plates in tow. Nib wipes Pokemon, all things are right in the world
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>>58709543Z-Moves can't even be protected in the game lore. If they were used in the YGO verse, the oh-so-common clause that traps can't be activated while the move is being used would surely be there. There's a reason trap cards have fallen out of favor over the years.
>>58711501Arceus is folded by Popeye, is sent to the land mine dimension by Bobobo, is no-diff'd by Nanashi, is assraped by Elder God Demonbane, and is chokeslammed by Unicron. I'm pretty sure there's like four things in Gurren Lagann that take it, and I have my doubts Arceus could take Castlevania Dracula. I think there's a couple JoJo characters that can mess with it bad. I'm ASSUMING the 1000 hands thing means there's a thousand Arceus avatars out there, and some nexus of its existence all in there to even be in this conversation. A single Arceus avatar, I have some serious suspicions that three guys around a corner with shotguns can kill it, and it's probably a coin flip on if an actual T.Rex can take it. Arceus is small potatoes, anon.
>>58711504>Guy dodges a laser, which is anomalous for the other feats in the setting>Fails to dodge a slap from the woman he's hitting on>Random women are now FTL>Random women gets grabbed by some thug>Thugs are now FTL+>Guy dodges thug punch, so he's FTL++, but he was slapped by a mere FTL woman five minutes ago, meaning his power is increasing exponentially, at all times
>>58710193>ash blossom in pokemon>she's just got an exclusive move that lets her sacrifice herself to make a pokemon flinch, ignoring flinch immunitiesget this bitch in VGC stat
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>>58711251Cheating in a game against Yugi is a very, very, very stupid idea.
>>58713727Most yu-gi-oh cards I've seen have some really barebones descriptions, to the point I don't even remember any of them
Yugi is the king of games and summons Gods, he isn't going to lose to a pokemon trainer.
>>58715813Jerry MOGS Ash, BY A LOT!
>Yugi summons his best card>ash pulls out his Master Ball and catches it>wins
>>58715740>weaker than black luster soldier and BEWDcool story bro
>>58715843Balls can't catch non-pokemon
>>58715843Yugi blocked the ball!"Dont be a thief!"
>>58715850Yeah, in the Pokemon universe. They're clearly in a bizarro situation where reality is warped to be able to fight each other. Yugi isn't playing turn based, not sacrificing cards to summon stuff like Slifer, Ash is using multiple pokemon at once, using mega, gigantamax, z-move, Yugi is using his millennium powers to take away Gengar's gigantamax form, etc.So, Ash should be able to use a Master Ball on an opponent that isn't a pokemon in this case. Same way Yugi can randomly draw 4 cards for no reason and use bullshit like his "heart of the cards" hax to summon Holactie
>>58715843I don't see a Snag machine.
>>58715831I always keep a Celtic Guardian in my deck. He is my favorite.
>>58715831>celtic guardian gets lightning scaling
>>58715900They are going off of the anime canons for both, and we see Gods summoned without sacrifices (such as Obelisk by Kaiba in Dark Side of Dimensions.)Even if we granted a Master Ball could catch a Duel Monster, that presumes the Ash even has one which he has never had.
>>58713702If every episode was a new day, which could as well be, that would be impossible.
Solgaleo would NOT be able to withstand Horacti's magic
>>58709543A very great episode of Death Battle, I was very entertained. Very high effort, well animated and seems to represent both series well. Too bad that Pokémon lost again, but the reasoning they gave after fight sounded quite reasonable to me. Of course with a matchup as complex as this it's understandable they weren't able to cover some things. Despite Ash and his Pokémon losing the fight they still put a good effort and the fight still felt close when I watched until near the end.
>>58709543DB is surface level tourist slop. I can appreciate that they actually got his goal right, seeing that most poketubers dont, I noticed that they keep falling into the tourist trap of OS and XY(both are mid-ok). they did mention every gen at least once they keep making the same twitter normie level refences. I was very disappointed in there knowledge of the anime.
https://youtu.be/8XVufQ2wAFA?si=UckL1GE6pJSqMsV6first 40 seconds made me laugh, and think of you
>>58709543the battle was fun if you're not a turboautist that projects himself onto ash
>>58715900Ash doesn't have a master ball
>>58715813Based Jerry
>>58715843Is that fake?
>>58709543Ya seethe?
>>58710400>Dont digimon users run one monster only?Some installments are just focused on Digimon doing stuff without humans getting involved. There's a few characters in the series who get two partners. And then there's Xros Wars where humans are hired on by Digimon armies as strategists and buff bots
>>58711380>Pokémon trainer brings out Mega Zygarde>Yugi activates The Living Arrow to fuse Mega Zygarde with the Claw of Hermos into a giant hammer which is picked up by Buster Blader, giving it the ability to attack all monsters on the field for giga-Piercing or something>Pokémon trainer objects saying Buster Blader is already burned and Intimidated and the field is filled with walls who won't be KOd>Yugi smirks and says that since Zygarde is a colony organism there are now thousands of Dragons in the Graveyard, cue Buster Blade gaining 5 bajillion ATK>GO, WIPE OUT HIS MONSTERS *AND* HIS LIFEPOINTS! ZENITH HAMMER ANNIHILATION!
>>58715850Counterpoint: monsters in YGO are portions of the soul which can be extracted and sealed into tablets for others to use (or you can merge with them to become a sapient Duel Spirit).Pokéballs work on Yamask + Cofagrigus, and stranger objects have been used by ancient civilisations (e.g. the giant Alakazam + Gengar)
Imagine if Ash didn't stop his journey after Galar and gained access to tera and just tera Solgaleo into electric resistance of something then just slapped Yugi
>>58710400If we look at the Digimon RPGs, Digimon Tamers can run about 9 Digimon in a party at their max (using 3 at a time in fact)Having that many Digimon isn't common mind you, most get 1, or rarely 2, but the RPG character are just built different
(THIS IS WHAT /PADT/ ACTUALLY BELIEVES)
>>58717042I imagined it and Ash still loses so I'm not sure why you asked us to imagine it.
I love how YGO isn't really bound by any rules, it's just driven by what the artists think is cool, and they're right
>>58717173Ash self inserters coping and trying to find anyway to say he could have won this battleIn reality, Yugi could have started the battle off with Holactie, and just instantly won
>>58712315Rules are a bit different between versions but>Higher stats + cost than normal cards; cannot be cheesed out or they'll disappear after 1 turn>Enormous in size, accompanied by weather changes + terrifying music>Have their own unique element (DIVINE) and species (Divine Beast)>When they fight it counts as an attack and a spell at the same time>Cannot be controlled except by "destined" people, to the point where you can go insane or get struck dead by lightning just by trying to draw a picture of them>Immune to passive effects from non-Gods (including items, field/weather, and stuff like Mold Breaker and Wonder Guard), as well as to effects which would kill them instantly without dealing damage>Any other effect, condition or penalty placed on a God ends after 1 turn>Must be defeated by dealing damage sufficient to OHKO, cannot be worn down through multiple attacks>Their immunity has a special clause just to shut down people who loophole their way into destroying indestructible monsters by forcing their opponent to expend them as fuel for something>Slifer has a continuous entry hazard which simultaneously inflicts heavy debuffs and enough damage to OHKO many monsters>Ra has a form that's immune to attack and can inflict unblockable damage to the opponent's soul>Obelisk can grant itself literally infinite attack power>If you get all three out and fuse them together, you automatically win the Duel
>>58712270>Also, if you've watched season 0, it also throws Yugi and Atem's characters out the window."Season 0" comprises the first chapters of the manga and is absolutely canon by all means, both to the manga (which the anime was based on) and DSoD. The reason Kaiba isn't an evil cheater (in the anime and manga) is because Yugi mind-raped him.
>>58710037You are retarded. Death Battle usually tries to show a character at their peak, so they mush in whatever gay powerscaling moment they feel like it's the best. It's not implying that the battle takes place after DSoD and it's not religiously adhering to the source material either (like how Ash has every Pokémon he owns available for battle). It's also clear that the Death Battle guys don't know shit about Yu-Gi-Oh, like when they said that level 10 monsters are the most powerful while level 9 are mid or some shit.>The anime has a lot of filler arcs and later anime like GX and 5Ds are incompatible with DSoDI don't get your endless mubming about this. Yeah they are both different continuities, so what? Manga + DSoD and Anime (ad infinitum) aren't connected, but both are very similar because the anime was based on the manga. Should Death Battle have merged them together? No one cares because the differences didn't affect the outcome.
>>58711659>Are YGO fans more degenerate then Pokemon fans?Nowhere near that. Ygo has a lot of degenerate cards, but there is no comparing to the shit you see mon autists do
>>58710152That's the thing lil niggy, the card you needed the creator of the digiverse or whatever to help defeat is a run of the mill monster.
>>58710211>Mfw I thought this was a long necked winged dragon at Frist>It's actually a gigantic humanoid tree guy with a dragon arm
>>58711501>>58711602>>58713447>>58715769Ive seen this argument before and yes arceus clears most other fictional universes. Even extremely powerful one like smt, digimon, marvel and DC. Take N.E.O for instance the most powerful character in digimons history. After he has won and combined with the universe he feels bad about it and undoes his evil actions. This multiversal character with power over time, space, gravity, etc is a slave to his EMOTIONS. Most written fiction gives all powerful characters some internal weakness, some rule they must follow, some thing they dont control. Arceus is a true depiction of a creator god with the lake trio. It did just create time space and everything in-between for stuff to exist it created the ability for things to want to do thing and to know and feel.
>>58712610>That's basically what regular monster does! After all, I wasn't talking about duel monster when I meant regular monster, I mean all the physical monsters such as King Kong or Kraken.
>>58718619>It's also clear that the Death Battle guys don't know shit about Yu-Gi-Oh, like when they said that level 10 monsters are the most powerful while level 9 are mid or some shit.Can't really blame them for believing this given the big OP powerful cards in the original Yugioh anime (one of if not the most popluar one) has the God Cards (level 10 monsters) as some of the strongest cards out there outside of "Holactie the Creator of Light" who is level 12, Makes me wonder how much there minds would be blown if they ever did anything with the later Yugioh series where Lv12 monsters, Rank 12 (or higher), or Link-5 or 6 are seen as some of the strongest monster around.
>>58718786>Arceus is a true depiction of a creator god with the lake trioNo it's not lol. It loses every fight it's been shown in. It doesn't matter if it's technically a hand of a larger being, it's still only the hand and it's still a loser. Technically every TES character is only a fragment of the Dreamer but nobody in their right mind would say Nazeem from the Cloud District is as powerful as the Dreamer itself.
>>58718786>jobs to a 10 year old kidEven ZeedMilleniummon, which is the actual Digimon that power scalers wank off, has a bullshit level of win conditions and in his original canon, he wants to be Ryu's Digimon. The only way to beat him in a fight (since he can reset the entire Digimon multiverse, shove other Digimon into universes he creates and either destroy those pocket universes or keep them stuck their forever, amongst his overly long Wiki page) is to fuse him with Ryu's Digimon, which effectively just gives him what he wants anyways. Arceus doesn't really prevent itself from being caught in the same way.
>>58719566Woops, meant Ryo. But here, have this for reference.https://omniversal-battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/ZeedMillenniummon
>>58718786>Ive seen this argument before and yes arceus clears most other fictional universes. Even extremely powerful one like smt, digimon, marvel and DC.
>>58715900>He doesn't draw 4 every turnErmmm, bro?
Reminder, Ash solos 99.9% of Yugioh because he defeated Atem in the Yugi fight.
>>58710053It's hard for me to say for digimon, since I like them, but don't know shit about them.However, yugioh alone has:Gods of time (Timelords)Terminators that wiped out humanity (Meklords)Beings literally as big as entire universes (Metaphys)Beings who can casually timeloop (Veda Kelarcanum)Dio Brando (Arcana Force)Invading forces of the indians that hate women, complete with Death Star (Kashtira)A literal Dyson Sphere (Number 9: Dyson Sphere)and that's ignoring the litany of literal gods, one of which instantly wins the game if it so much as touches the fieldIt's a tough match to beat the extended yugioh universe
>>58715752I'm still mad
>Horakthy scales larger than Arceus>This will never not be the case because we'll never see Horakthy do anything again because Konami is afraid of her card>Meanwhile Arceus jobs to just about anything every time it shows uplol
>>58712459if I recall correctly, wasn't Marik actually freaking out by the end of the match internally, because Joey would've won had he not turned the whole thing into an actual torture game?
>>58720143A pity w to keep Ash fans from killing themselves
>>58720283The only way Arceus can even come close to her is via jerking off the theoretical power of True Arceus, since the ones we see in game are just avatarsHorakthy is an instant win card, so there really isn't much they can do with her, not helped that her requirement makes it unnecessarily difficult to even call her out, since the 3 God cards need 3 tributes to even summon to the field, so its better to just use them, but the problem there is the God cards are nerfed in the actual TCG compared to their manga/anime counterparts, making them not worth even using in the real game
Why didn't he just use Mirror Force?
>>58721766He wanted Ash to feel like he stood a chance
>>58721766Death Battle never lets characters do things that would instantly win the battle, since the fights are meant to be entertainment based on their research on who would win, and it wouldn't be very fun to see someone instantly win
>>58709543I agree, Black Luster Soldier should have cleared Ash's team alone before any of the egiptian gods had anything to do.
Is mega lucario an ace of ash?
>>58720285Yes. The fact that the game was a shadow game and Joey had no expertise and little knowledge about the dark arts on top of him being a mere mortal is what saved Marik.
>>58720285>>58722269That combined with technically already losing against Yugi when he was mind controlling the Slifer guy earlier on really made Marik too pathetic for a main villain.
>>58722255>That's Gandora who kills constelations and Black Luster Soldier who has the power of a chaos energy big bang >Both got one shot by a dog that's barely able to destroy a building
>>58722345yeah dogs > hologram shit
>>58720143True and based. Atem got outskilled and overpowered by Ash.
>>58722505They are summoned physically using Egyptian sorcery here.
>>58722345that's the same lucario who beat cynthias garchomp
>>58722543If Ash did try attacking Yugi without using his monsters to do it, Penalty Game would activate for violating the terms of the Duelhttps://youtu.be/Nk-pYoEd9ew?t=1m32s
>>58723482I don't think going for a killshot in a death battle is violating any rules
>>58709543wtf was Ash gonna do vs Horakhty? That shit was over right then and there. Ash doesn't have Arceus, Tobias does.
>>58723642>Ash doesn't have Arceusarceus wouldn't have even won
Pokemon is just not on the power scale of Yugioh. It's a bad matchup.
I doubt changing the rules for the fight would change the outcome, and I get why they did it the way they did, but still yugi in this fight could:>summon monsters without tributes>summon multiple monsters at once>summon more monsters than he had zones>activate spells reactively>activate traps immediately after setting them>draw as many cards as he wants whenever he wants
>>58723793I don't think the creators really knew much about ygo, or felt it would be bad pacing.
>>58723793Back then it was cheating, nowadays that's just first-turn gameplay.
>>58723534Talk to the hand
>>58709559/ThreadMy fat retarded mutt coworker loves death battle and he's only half white
>>58723152Same Lucario that needed to mega evolve to beat base form Garchomp, and only barely won
>>58723793You make a good point, but honestly, the odds were stacked against Ash either way. The only way I can think of for the battle to have an actual sort of similar feel was if both Ash and Yugi took turns to attack and such, which would work for Yu-Gi-Oh and the Pokémon games, but not for the ashnime. The Death Battle guys seemed like they didn't know much about Yu-Gi-Oh, so they probably realized the battlefield wasn't even at all and went for a more "battle of the monsters" sort of deal.
>>58724238with help from sir fetch'd
>>58723793That would have required them to basically write an entire duel to get the same end result, and then Ash would only have 6 pokemon, and it would make Solgaleo's inclusion a bit more dubious. I think that is also just well outside of the scope of what the animation is meant to be.
>>58722255I'm glad I only the Magic Cylinder reversal at the end of the premiere. I'm assuming Gandora didn't do anything and just got 1-shot by a jackal because I don't see a scorched earth around him.Gandora, one of the monsters Yugi used in the ceremonial duel against the Pharaoh and against Yami Bakura in the Millenium World to help Atem pass on to the world of the dead got killed by a jackal. Very cool.
>>58723534Shadow Games force a set of rules. For the early parts of Yugioh, if you try to cheat or go for a kill and it goes against the rules, you get fucked over and usually have to suffer an awful punishment for going against the game. Yugi/Yami can force a shadow game where both sides need to use their monsters. That means Ash can't do shit personally.
>>58725040>Shadow Games force a set of rulesexcept they weren't playing a shadow game, so not really a relevant point is it?
