>>58717544
WHY IS IT NOT DRAGON STEEL OMGGGG FUCK GF. This looks cool though

compfag-kun....

>>58717544
>Is actually slower than its other two forms
WAT?!

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More like LAMEchomp
>mfw people will pay for this

>>58717576
>Me when I can't read

>>58717544
>loses ground stab
>141 SPA

grim

>>58717544
Holy Meh

>zero creative ideas for a mega
>you can't NOT make a mega, afterall, it's a shillmon
>just increase whichever attacking stat is worse
brilliant

>>58717544
>special attacker
>loses important ground type stab and gets nothing in return
>no boosting options for special attack
>only offensive stabs are shitty piss dick dragon pulse and dropping a draco then switching out which dragapult does better
wow they really gave garchomp TWO unplayable dogshit megas huh
meanwhile fucking salamence

utter dogshit
why does it have cancerous growths on its head
why does it have random spikes
(this also applies to base garchomp)
if you like dogshit like base garchomp you'll probably like this

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>Needs to hold Item to Mega
>loses ground-type stab
>Pure Dragon
>Nothing burger design

>>58717544
one of the best looking PLZA megas desu
not ruined or turned into eyeball/toilet is already a W

>>58717731
>Base 151 speed approaches

>>58717744
>if you like dogshit like base garchomp
base Chomp is a super popular pokemon, so yeah most people like it.

>>58717603
Oh, excuse me anon, I went genuinely retarded there.

>>58717754
I mean, in a world dominate by fairies, will the speed save it?

>>58717801
You have a button that says kill Dragapult. That sounds like a great item.

>>58717731
Don't bring Salamence into this.

>>58717544
goofytards our response???

>>58717754
what does it outrun (that dragapult doesn't also outrun) that makes using your mega on such an absolute dogshit pokemon worth it? pult is already 142 so it has to be something between 142 and 150

At least Pokefags won't bleed their panties over the 4X weakness to Ice that Humiliation Ritual Garchomp Z won't have, right?

>>58717856
Well, Pult for one.

>>58717622
>>58717731

Losing Ground-Stab does suck, but not being murked by any ice type attack is kind of nice even if its defenses still aren't too good.
That said, it and the rest of the ZA megas will look mid as long as the abilities aren't revealed.

>>58717850
you know what else says "kill dragapult"? nearly any pokemon with a super effective move and 80 speed or higher. also doesn't take your mega slot.

>>58717856
Mega starters. Fuck Delphox

I think people are forgetting that it's absolutely getting a better movespool and an absurd ability to actually use these stats. The fact that it still has 130 atk and access to sword dance is very privileged.

>>58717929
pult is faster than phox though

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I'm not wasting a megaslot on Garchomp z. Fucking lmao.

>>58717544
looks like a design made by Palworld

>>58717941
it HAS a good special movepool. dragon stab, earth power, fire blast. what more do you even need?
the problem is that said movepool WILL NOT help it because it's literally helpless against fairies due to no secondary stab. it can't just power through with its other neutral stab like regular garchomp does because it doesn't have one any more.

>>58717544
Flygonfags won

>>58717998
Its a long shot but after looking at the other Z megas these things are designed to be GOOD, not shit. So there must be a catch here for chomp to be losing iconic grounds stab. The catch being that being pure dragon loses 4x ice weakness. Its ability will probably be something like steelworker (for another type) so that it gains some offensive presence back that way. Im near confident this will be the case

It’s a win because Darkrai and Heatran’s are genuinely terrible

"more spikes"/same, but edgier IS a good mega design, always has been
it definitely beats whatever PLZA did

>>58717544
>old mega was jay leno
>new mega is cletus
Why can't they leave her jaw alone?

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wtf happened to his chin

>Chomp got Nasty Plot

>>58718246
i-it's aerodynamic...

>>58717754
>gets 1 shot by scarf dragapult

>>58717544
>pure dragon
FOR
WHAT
FUCKING
PURPOSE
Aggron losing its rock type upon mega evolution further solidified its intended purpose of being even stronger defensively (since rock type is a defensive liability in general)
But a nominally offensive mon losing STAB on its strongest consistent move (earthquake) is just fucking baffling
And the stat spread is another thing. Sure, mixed (mega) garchomp was always a thing, but what special dragon moves does it even fucking get to warrant a specially biased spread? Dragon Pulse? Come the FUCK on
And if I wanted a really fast dragon type I'd use the already existing one that not only can hold an item but has ghost STAB as well

>>58717544
DORYOKU
MIRAI
A BEAUTIFUL STAR

THEY GAVE GARCHOMP NASTY PLOT
I REPEAT
THEY GAVE IT NASTY PLOT

>>58718328
reinvented the wheel award

>>58718291
Garchomp is getting Nasty Plot
Earth/Dragon 151 speed Mega Chomp with nasty plot would be too evil to unleash upon the world
Pure dragon Mega Chomp might still be too strong with nasty plot. And that attack stat is still useable too

Garchomp: Please Gamefreak just give me Dragon Dance.
Gamefreak: Best I can do is a new mega with 151 speed and Nasty Plot.

1164 - Garchomp-2 #130 (Stage: 3)
======
Base Stats: 108.130.85.141.85.151 (BST: 700)
EV Yield: 0.3.0.0.0.0
Gender Ratio: 127
Catch Rate: 45
Abilities: Sand Force (1) | Sand Force (2) | Sand Force (H)
Type: Dragon
EXP Group: Slow
Egg Group: Monster / Dragon
Height: 01.90m, Weight: 099.0kg, Color: Blue
Classifications: Mega Evolution
Alpha Move: Poison Jab
Level Up Moves:
- [EVO] Crunch {51}
- [01] Tackle {10}
- [01] Sand Tomb {10}
- [12] Dragon Breath {15}
- [18] Bulldoze {21}
- [25] Bite {28}
- [30] Slash {33}
- [36] Dragon Claw {39}
- [42] Dig {45}
- [54] Take Down {57}
- [60] Dragon Rush {63}
TM Learn:
- [TM002] Dragon Claw
- [TM010] Brick Break
- [TM012] Rock Slide
- [TM014] Fire Fang
- [TM017] Protect
- [TM019] Power Gem
- [TM021] Thunder Fang
- [TM022] Aerial Ace
- [TM025] Crunch
- [TM027] Swift
- [TM028] Dig
- [TM030] Swords Dance
- [TM033] Body Slam
- [TM035] Endure
- [TM036] Rock Tomb
- [TM037] Stealth Rock
- [TM038] Fire Blast
- [TM044] Hyper Beam
- [TM052] Earth Power
- [TM054] Draco Meteor
- [TM055] Giga Impact
- [TM058] Iron Head
- [TM061] Shadow Claw
- [TM062] Flamethrower
- [TM065] Stone Edge
- [TM069] Earthquake
- [TM073] Surf
- [TM075] Dragon Pulse
- [TM076] Liquidation
- [TM077] Poison Jab
- [TM078] Bulldoze
- [TM083] Nasty Plot
- [TM085] Substitute
- [TM087] Iron Tail
- [TM088] Spikes
- [TM093] Outrage
- [TM109] Facade
- [TM122] False Swipe
- [TM135] Dual Chop
- [TM136] Scorching Sands
- [TM143] Scale Shot
- [TM145] Razor Wind
- [TM150] Vacuum Wave

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>>58718278

>give it nasty plot for literally no reason other than retarded faggot shilling
>it will still suck because pure dragon is the worst type possible these days
lol

>>58718415
Yeah that's why OU is filled with dragon types

>>58718336
>Earth/Dragon 151 speed Mega Chomp with nasty plot would be too evil to unleash upon the world
Found the newfag who hasn't been around to see the shit they introduce in mainline games and their DLCs

mixed with 151 (!) speed
has both Swords Dance and Nasty Plot
even with mono-Dragon thats pretty good.

Gotta see ability though

>>58718445
Only 5.

>>58718445
the anon said pure dragon

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>>58718365
>no special moves that can touch fairies
wow it sure would be a shame if there was a pokemon that completely nullified mega garchomp without even requiring investment in special defense, that could ALSO mega evolve for a different ability when cucking garchomp isn't necessary

>>58718466
>pokemon have counters
Wow, I can just switch in Heatran on literally any fairy that would hope to stop Garchomp.

>>58718495
>durr i can just switch my setup sweeper out! lol, gottem!
and now it can't set up a second time. good going, genius.

>>58718513
Not every Pokemon can deal with every threat, dumbass.

People that think any of the Z megas will be bad are coping real hard. Theres no way they won't get busyed abilities that make their stat spread make sense

>>58718558
lol
how's that garchomp cock taste?

>>58717544
>dies to cleffa

>>58718569
Every fairy but Clefable is going to get nuked by Iron Head on the switch, even uninvested.

>>58718560
oh yeah, i'm sure golisopod isn't just going to be shitty mega scizor, and meowstic isn't just going to be shitty [any other psychic mega and many non-megas]
scovillain will also be the first playable SFMA mega, and golurk getting a few points in defenses will somehow make it good

>>58718585
>4 Atk Garchomp-Mega Iron Head vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Primarina: 93-110 (28.9 - 34.2%) -- 2.6% chance to 3HKO
i'm quaking in my assault vest right now.

>>58718588
>scovillain will also be the first playable SFMA mega
...You sure?

>>58718560
That they all have that fuck-ass 151 speed says everything.

>>58718466
>Pokemon can be beaten by other Pokemon

Wow anon, shocking revelation

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I think Sword Dance + Scale Shot could be quite interesting. Mega Z can be unpredictable.

>>58718616
0 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Primarina: 186-220 (57.9 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>>58718650
eh, that seems really bad. scale shot is mostly pointless when you already have 151 speed since you can't run loaded dice to make it actually do consistent damage.

>>58718246
garchomp's chin always looked like this though

>>58718656
>dragon/ground/poison moveset
>gets cucked by balloon tinkaton
good one chucklenuts.

>>58718670
It's to ensure that no Choice Scarf Dragapult, etc., outspeeds you. It would be for finishing off or something like that, not for primary damage.

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Stat comparison

>>58718708
at that point you're running two dragon stabs AND swords dance, giving you room for only one coverage move to hit both fairies and steels with. doesn't sound even remotely good.

>>58717731
It gets nasty plot now

>>58718700
lmao

any datamine on who is Mega Z Chomps trainer in the DLC?
or its just a wild poke?

>>58717544
>Mixed attacker even though it already had every physical moves it needed
>Lost the better typing
Into the trash it goes

>>58718466
Flamethrower

>>58718560
HOLY COPE

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>>58717544
This is cooler than its original Mega but that is a low bar. Original Chomp still clears

>>58718747
+2 Flamethrower is doing 60 to a physdef Clefable.

>>58718832
and if it's unaware clef then you're just fucked
+2 252 SpA Garchomp-Mega Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Unaware Clefable: 113-134 (28.6 - 34%) -- 1.3% chance to 3HKO

Still has swords dance
Still has scale shot
Now outspeeds nearly the entire game
Now fire blast kills every steel without investment

>>58718733
>any datamine on who is Mega Z Chomps trainer in the DLC?
^

>>58718956
>go clefable

>>58718956
why the fuck would you run scale shot without loaded dice
80% of the time it will either miss, hit twice, or hit three times
all of these are very bad outcomes

>>58718956
>Jigglypuff uses Disarming Voice!

>>58718956
Scale Shot is pointless without Loaded Dice.

>>58718986
>>58719018
That anon doesn't actually play and has never used scale shot.

>>58717544
OW
THE
EDGE

>>58717544
Gigan looking motherfugga

>>58718709
Jesus, I didn't even notice the defense drop

Why do they want special garchomp so bad

>>58719559
the irony of it is that the only real use for chomp Z is going to be as a physical attacker anyway since special sets are hard walled by fairies

>>58717917
Who needs ground anymore. Mega golurk looks rad to fill my ground type

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>>58719571
How many special moves does garchomp even have outside of draco meteor? Fire blast and earth power(non-STAB, lmao)?

What kind of ability would justify chomp kneecapping itself like this?

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>>58717544
>chainsawman garchomp is real
ITS PEAK

>>58717731
It has Nasty Plot

>>58719599
power gem and surf. oh, and now vaccuum wave in ZA for some reason.

>>58719606
Yeah it looks like they were going with this idea. Do we have animations for this yet?

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>>58717731
You leave my baby out of this!

>>58717731
It becames SUPPORTER
You never used Tankchomp?

>>58719599
Now it can use flamethrower instead.

>>58717544
The design is shit, that’s for sure

>>58717544
Aside from the dildo arms I genuinely don't see any difference

Is Garchomp Z not obtainable rn? Nobody has shown any evidence or footage of it in-game

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Garchomp Z beats the Weather Trio

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It’s not bad, but this fake image I got baited with is honestly better.

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>>58718700
>Fairyfaggot still mindbroken by CorviKnight
Funny

>>58720418
It's event locked anon. Like non-transfer Diancie and mewtwo.

>>58720524
That shits all over the Mega Z we got, I just knew that was going to be the case

>>58720538
I was figuring, but is there concrete proof of this?

>>58718832
+2 252 SpA Garchomp Power Gem vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Clefable-Mega: 342-404 (86.8 - 102.5%) -- 18.8% chance to OHK

Garchomp is supreme

>>58720544
https://x.com/Kaphotics/status/1998657937871638807

>>58720571
GDI then, I was so looking forward to adding Chomp Z to my team as soon as the DLC released

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>>58717544
Why he floating?
https://x.com/UniteVids/status/1998673698442654033

>>58720793
because he's going to have levitate
that's why he's not a ground type anymore
idiot

>>58720793
Looks prety good.
So does any NPC trainer use it or not?

>>58720799
>have levitate
Would that be good for it?

>>58717544
The speed tier is so fucking retarded.

>>58720524
It’s better than what we got, but how did you fall for that height? It was debunked as soon as it was posted.

>>58720871
Gotta go fast.

>>58717544
>Typing: Pure Dragon
????????
What the fuck why???

>>58720884
Lose the 4x ice weakness

>>58718724
Does it?

>>58720888
Yes

>all these anons claiming scale shot is mad without loaded dice
Did you niggers skip gen 8? Scale shot Garchomp was excellent in SS OU

>>58718415
Watch as they give it fairy scrappy

>>58718415
I don't know. They're trying fucking everything this time.

So basically how you play it is gonna be nasty plot once while tanking a hit (it’s not getting ohko’d without a double weakness) then sweep

>>58720918
Riveting gameplay.

>>58720866
Probably not since you don’t mega on switch in
It wouldn’t even troll misty terrain since misty terrain relies on the target being affected by it not the attacker

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Nice pose

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>>58720937
canon now

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KINO

>>58721775
Its basically a cooler/edgier/faster base Chomp
simple, but I like it enough

>>58720918
It can definitely get ohko'd by a super effective move

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Its a sawshark, which I gotta say I was not expecting but actually a cool way to incorporate features into the design. The spikes make sense in this instance. I like it a lot over the base mega for sure. Much like the other za megas we can't confirm anything until abilities are out but given that this is also event locked, itll probably be good when we get back to the actual turn based combat

what ability would this thing even have to still be good?
it has the speed, so any form of damage would still make this guy really good.
I want to say sand force or something, but then why would he lose ground typing?

>>58721843
its obviously wont be anything sand related
will be dragon/flying related

>>58720799
Yeah because no ground type has ever floated before retard

>>58717544
I like the design it's pretty tame but i did expect more from a Z mega like absol and lucario, I feel like you can tell which artist is more experienced with pokemon designs and which isn't, staraptor's isn't bad but its overly designed while absol feels just right

>>58721843
It'll probably get Levitate.

>dorsal fin doesn't have a scar
This really is the female mega like people were expecting.

>>58722177
made for blonde girl Champions

>>58717544
wow they actually managed to design something even tackier looking than the first mega

>>58720937
The pose is kind of necessary because it's otherwise just garchomp with more shit on it

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>>58717544
>garchomp against any dragon type

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>>58720799
Uh

>>58720937
>>58720991
Still Mach Speed ? Even after mega evolution? Not hyper sonic ? Game-freak needs to hire better writers for dex entry. No wonder other franchise laugh at us.

>>58722891
Anon hypersonic still falls under mach speed

>>58720937
I really don't like the mega dex entries, they feel lazy.

>>58720793
She is a beautiful ballerina

>>58719599
You can still use Earth Power even without STAB to hit Mega Diance and Tapu Koko

>>58717544
I feel like this thing is gonna have 4MSS. There's always something that doesn't give a fuck about his coverage unless he has very specific moves. No Poison jab and Clef doesn't give a fuck. No ground move and Heatran doesn't give a fuck. No fire move and then Skarm/Covinight/Ferrothorn dont give a fuck

>make special Garchomp
>loses Earth Power STAB
>it's fucking frail
it's like they designed it solely to kill Dragapult and then instantly eat shit the next turn

>>58717544
>chainsaw shark
>not dragon/steel or dragon/dark
This game has some of the worst selection of type combinations since Gen 5

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>>58722249
>>58719606
>the chainsaw devil is the devil most feared by devils
>garchomp is the dragon most feared by dragons

>>58723552
>>it's fucking frail
Are you fucking retarded

>>garchomp is the dragon most feared by dragons
Dragon who is a dragon killer?
Kino

>>58723613
I liked her better when she was a dog.

>>58723637
That’s War no Pochita

>>58723613
>>58723631
>dragon most feared by dragons
Thematically that would be baxcalibur but its such an ugly PoS that I wouldnt mind GarCHAD taking its place

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>>58723638
I know.

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>>58723638
>>58723646
You also just know.

>>58723646
I need to catch up on this shit fr

>>58723652
How far behind are you? That was over 100 chapters ago.

>>58723646
>>58723649
one might be aware...

>>58717576
Are you actually retarded??

>>58723660
I dont remember desu

>>58724030
Might as well restart, then. It's a quick read.

>>58717544
It's viability depends on ability and what moves Garchomp will get in Champions and later gens. A fast, frail mixed attacker with one, pretty mediocre STAB is not really justifying all the fuckening that player must go through to use this thing.

>>58717544
Does Draco Meteor even one shot Great Tusk?

>>58724189
252 SpA Garchomp Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Great Tusk: 373-441 (85.9 - 101.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

>>58724212
Mega Garchomp survives an ice spinner back right? >>58720918 said it won't get ohkod

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>>58724255
Yup. Anon might have forgotten to remove the ground typing.

I think it will be OU even with an avg ability
Ubers if a busted ability

>>58724941
I’m personally hoping for Tough Claws

>>58724054
Give contrary

>>58718284
Scarf pult does ohko it, but is it useful for anything else?

>>58717544
>mfw he gets a Scrappy variant for fairies as an ability

>>58724945
Tough Claws would be unironically great, because it could slip in some uninvested physical coverage.

>>58724945
Gamefreak dumping 61 points into special attack then giving it tough claws is disappointingly believable