[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/vp/ - Pokémon


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: Palworld.jpg (191 KB, 1920x1080)
191 KB
191 KB JPG
>hundreds of cool, beautiful, great Pokemon design for future gens stolen by this one AI shovel-ware game.
This & fanmade fakemon design are the reason Pokemon quality stagnates and we couldn't have nice things.
>>
>>58719387
Dude, shut the fuck up.
>>
Eat dookie nigga!
>>
You know you have a point, Op. We should setup an AI to endlessly gen thousands of pokemon every minute, 24/7. That will solve the problem.
>>
>>58719387
>hundreds of cool, beautiful, great
Ehhhh....
>>
They literally didn't use AI for this game. This rumor came from a game of telephone mix-up with another game by them that was like Amogus but with using a AI generator to generate art to correctly guess the prompt you were given like "draw a gorilla" and the imposter would get the wrong prompt and try to come up with bullshit excuses. The Ai generator used was trained on assets made in house by Pocketpair. You retards would know if you didn't have attention spans the size of grains thanks to being brain raped by the algorithm of social media sites and never reading articles past the shitty clickbait titles.
>>
File: images(11).jpg (10 KB, 353x360)
10 KB
10 KB JPG
>>58719387
>Designs
The reason this is a game at all is because the gameplay MOGS every single thing pokemon has done or tried to do in the last 15 years. The game has pretty much everything ever pokemon fan has ever asked for in the context of a Pokemon game. It has all the cool shit I imagined as a kid like flying on the back of a dragon while shooting a gun and chucking pokeballs. Literal playground fantasy brought to a cool game.
The designs are pretty much dogshit, though. The only one I truly like is Munchill. Love that little guy.
>>
>>58719387
palworld is fun
>>
>>58721177
Palworld's gameplay sucks.
>>
>>58721243
Why?
What makes modern pokemon games better?
>>
>>58721257
He will never say. He doesn't know only that he is right and you are wrong, the therefore anything you say is obviously stupid.
>>
>>58721298
I'm pretty sure gen5 was the last pokemon game with a stable framerate. If gamefreak couldn't make stable games beyond sprites and pixel graphics, then they never should have moved past it.
Soaring in the sky is the last feature in any pokemon game that really made me say "wow this is REALLY cool" and even then I went back to standard fly eventually because there wasn't all that much you could do with it.
Pokemon gave up their core gameplay a long time ago for dress-up dollhouse gameplay. I want pokemon to be better than palworld. I want that a lot. It just isn't anymore.
>>
File: miltank.jpg (2 KB, 115x125)
2 KB
2 KB JPG
>>58719387
>fanartist cope
Congratulations, you're signing Creatures, Inc.'s certificate of incompetence.
>>
>>58721343
>35 million sales
>Neither Sw/Sh nor S/V achieved that number
>Incompetence
You can say that every single one of those people has bad taste in games but that won't be a good argument.
>>
>>58721177

Palsimps are the niggers of the creature collector genre.
>>
>>58721418
>Palsimp
Retard, I want pokemon to be the better game but it isn't. If anything, you're the simp for coping about shitty dress up shadows of pokemon games.
>>
>>58719387
cant for ohmori to get cut out and then Square takes it to heights we could only imagine.
>>
I like Palworld monster designs more than NuPokemon
>>
Pokemon is like having a super hot wife who doesn't like you at all and fucks with you all the time
Palworld is like having a 4/10 wife who loves you and cooks you dinner
>>
>>58719387
tendies are such whiny faggy manbabies lol
>>
>>58719387
>hundreds of cool, beautiful, great Pokemon design for future gens stolen
i think you mean from past gens
>This & fanmade fakemon design are the reason Pokemon quality stagnates and we couldn't have nice things.
a solid 90% of fakemon suck shit thoughever
>>
>>58721481
>super hot wife
Who hit the wall 6 years ago.
>>
>>58721921
That's yokai watch
YKW was hot in high school but immediately fell off and hit the wall
SMT and Dragon Quest are MILFs
>>
>>58723009
Pokémon has been unattractive since Gen8.
>>
>>58723009
Monster Rancher is the high school gf you loved dearly but died in a car accident
You'll never stop imagining a life with her
>>
Digimon is a BPD riddled trainwreck but the pussy game got you coming back
>>
You didn't hear about Medabots for years until you found her turning tricks in a back alley
>>
>nintoddler got so butthurt over people calling the Mega Lucario a Palmon he had to make an entirely new thread to bitch about it
>>
>>58723193
Link?
>>
>>58719404
rude
>>
>>58719387
It's an open world survival game. It sucks by default
>>
>>58719387
Lazy excuse. GF Concept Artists could just turn off all distractions, drawing stuff from imagination.
Only use irl objects, animals, ect. as refs - instead of looking at fictional monsters, and only use said refs after already having made some decent rough designs. Well, this is how i'd do it if i was a creature designer.
>>
>>58723209
>>58719983
>>
>>58721343
It’s not creatures who is incompetent it’s game freak
>>
File: bunicorn.jpg (70 KB, 485x214)
70 KB
70 KB JPG
>>58723255
>this is how i'd do it if i was a creature designer
But that is definitely not the Game Freak way.
>>
>>58723009
Dragon Quest is how >>58721481 described Palworld
SMT has big tits but will peg and choke you
>>
>>58721177
Eh, its okay. It was one of the more enjoyable ea survival slop ive played. But its not great.

Flying pals in particular. They should all move a lot faster and fly more like airplanes instead of hovering.

I need to give it another shot with a friend group.
Survival games are always better with a small group.
>>
>>58723522
My cousin runs a server for our household and yes, it's very nice. Much easier to collect resources when your shit farms while you sleep. Flying pals are a little bit better than initial release and if you're willing to apply some patience to breeding, then the movement speed abilities can stack and you can add stamina.
Game's still in early access but apparently they're doing full 1.0 Q1 2026. I see what we have now as basically gen1 palworld. Hopefully it gets better because there's a lot that could improve. Also since the updates are free, you can just come and go whether something interesting happens or not.
>>
Is this game still totally unbalanced, where it essentially forces you to switch to using monsters that just passively buff the player and focus on your own weapons and gear, around level 40? I really did not like that it felt like the game was naturally gravitating away from monster battling and the pals essentially just turned into farmhands and support while you went on a solo adventure. Defeats the purpose of what made this game different from games like Ark.
>>
>>58723648
I hope it gravitates more into monster taming and friendship besides the whole raid battles and alpha catches.
I guess we will have to see when 1.0 drops next year.
>>
>>58723498
True. DQ is super overrated. Verification is not required.
>>
>>58719387
I love palworld monster design but I absolutely HATE the stupid guns. Guns completely overshadow the monsters and turn what should be a collecting game into a mediocre shooting game.
>>
Remember Temtem
>>
>>58725172
What about megaten
>>
>>58719387
The reason they stagnate!???? LMAO you cant be fr. And we're still waiting for you whiny nigglets to prove ai use in any capacity.
>>
>>58725358
I do and loved it. Much better than most of the switch games. Wish itd update and sell more merch.
>>
>>58721377
>35 million sales
>Neither Sw/Sh nor S/V achieved that number
Well gee whizz anon, I wonder how something that is on multiple fucking platforms INCLUDING PC is able to sell so much compared to a product locked to one console you cockgargling faggot, shut the fuck up.
>>
>>58726133
But but
Themthem tho
>>
File: images(41).jpg (11 KB, 306x306)
11 KB
11 KB JPG
>>58726137
Oh wow now I think modern pokemon games are ackshually good!
>>
>>58719387
Devs intentionally sabotaging their designs are not other people's fault GF bootlicker
>>
>>58726637
Why are you frogposters always so fucking retarded any time you are shown a single counterargument?
>>
File: 4f7jtgkn1cg41-4166053326.jpg (291 KB, 1896x2668)
291 KB
291 KB JPG
>>58725365
The aesthetics of those monsters match with the tone and aesthetics of modern firearms and sometimes incorporate them.
Palworld just has a random /k/fag on the dev team who can't control himself.
>>
>>58726137
Are you trying to frame reaching a wider audience as a bad thing?
>>
Report, hide and forget.
>>
pfhfhfa nice try poketurd, that's gf design philosophy pokemon designs has been garbage since gen 1,it got worse in gen 4, they make more ugly designs now because they are forgetable, so they can use the old popular desings , most of merch are old pokemon
>>
I really like the not-mewtwo with twin tails from this game, she's cute.
>>
>>58726756
I've seen this criticism a lot but i don't really know how they would fix that issue it seems like morality issue more than a game design issue also if im correct the designer for the guns are a rookie with a little experience
>>
>>58723209
he come to town
>>
>>58726677
Why do modern pokemon games still suck?
>>
>>58727834
Because GF knows they don't need to try, and the games at this point are just a vehicle for merch sales.
>>
>>58719387
Why is this still here.
>>
File: 1725873284855.png (23 KB, 1920x1280)
23 KB
23 KB PNG
>>58719387
If Palworld doesn't exist, sentret & furret would get their ice regional variant in the future and furret would evolve into chillet.
Everyone would be happier if chillet actually belongs to Pokemon
>>
>>58727956
Because is a fun thread?
>>
>>58729199
so, they can't come up with their own idea of ice furret? that sounds really incompetent

Chillet can stay
>>
>>58726756
the best of Palworld gun autism is actually its' trigger discipline
>>
File: 1764328305752222.png (379 KB, 2012x1897)
379 KB
379 KB PNG
If anything, all Palworld did was prove that the best approach is just to put all bets on furbait designs, just as Palworld did, i truly believe people calling Z Lucario a Palworld design stems from the curvy way they designed it (thigh highs furbait mega) and not from the tacky bits added.
>>
>>58730593
wouldn't it also help that it's also a different genre instead of the average turn-based monster tamer

is there a chance they can actually turn this game into a good concept though?
>>
File: 1762896103601405.png (34 KB, 1222x1796)
34 KB
34 KB PNG
>>58730601
Pokemon's gameplay was never the issue, the problem with Pokemon's gameplay-related issues stem from the general Safe Game Design process that infected 100% of everything within Nintendo. Some romhacks prove you can make battles more engaging (just do what clover does and allow the enemies pull off switches) and fun. But when the overall Pokemon experience is just exploring big voids of nothing but grass, have stories that are dumb as fuck, have minimal amounts of interactions with other characters and then on top of that, have games come out as incredibly fucking buggy pieces of shit without a single ounce of polish AND on top of that shitcake, you also account the fucking ugly graphics and it's no wonder why Palworld took off.

But then again, Pokemon games still sell so clearly it doesn't matter.
>>
>muh painting walls
>muh ultrakill
Less than 4 days until update still no news.
It's over.
>>
>>58730327
I will always praise a game that remembers trigger safety. You don't want to shot something by accident.
>>
>>58730720
it comes out December 17 so wait a bit anon
>>
>>58721177
The designs got better.
Tarantiss is peak
>>
>>58730593
Temtem is another thing that hit the nail in the coffin that monster design matters a lot, not just the gameplay. If monster aren't attractive or interesting enough, the shit won't sell. Too boring to be a merchandise.
>>
>>58730593
You look gapeable
>>
>>58731572
>its comes out on the Saturn Jupiter conjuction during Saturnalia and on the Winter Solstice
How very occult
>>
>>58731890
Keep the Flopie Gaping for /vm/, this board is not ready for that.
>>
>>58719387

No offense OP but keep in mind Nintendo is the same company that let PETA murder the Pokémon and laugh about it so…
>>
I don't like how out of all the weapons and environments in palworld look like stock assets.
>>
>>58719387
No, GF is just scummy enough to blame their own fans as an excuse for producing trash. Then again, the fans deserve it for still buying it anyway.
>>
>>58721177
it's a shitty boring survival crafter.
>>
>>58733680
it's not for everyone but its way better than the average survival crafter
>>
File: 00.png (258 KB, 640x590)
258 KB
258 KB PNG
Just because fanartists did it first doesn't mean it shouldn't be included, Amaura and Aurorus are ripped off mons from a fanartist too.
>>
>another paltroon thread
>>
>>58733636
Not anymore. They have made weapons from other games now, like the Meowmere or the Nail Gun.
>>
>>58734300
pokemon is filled with them just like smash bros so this isn't really a major insult
>>
>>58719387
>just accuse anything you don't like of being AI
I see we've gotten to the buzzword stage already.
>>
>>58726991
>morality issue
It's an aesthetic issue. If you want to add guns to your fantasy world then don't fucking add shit from our world. Make something new.
>>
>>58734418
i means it's not that easy most guns take heavy inspiration for preexisting guns that exist already that's why all cod guns or battlefield guns take the gun combination approach but i can't say the same for cyberpunk it seems they have a huge designer team for that which i don't think is fair to compare to palworld's designer's team
>>
>>58734484
You don't know what you're talking about. Making a fantasy gun is as easy as photobashing houshold objects onto a pre-existing gun and you don't need a team of designers to do it.
>>
>>58734491
i mean the only games that i've seen that made interesting guns were metro exodus, borderlands and (even though i hate it) destiny and a few so on but those were for the space or apocalyptic genre which is easy to make unique guns out of since most are banged up preexisting guns or guns that look like they came straight out of a 3d printer

could be possible but they would have to redo all the remodeling for that also i don't think the designer was that good at the time, reminder they had to make that switch to new unity engine which could also play a part why the guns look basic
>>
>>58734555
Again, you don't know what you're talking about.
>>
>>58734562
how so? you didn't even explain anything besides saying "you don't know anything" can you at least show some examples of so-called fantasy guns that don't look like they would be hell to model and code? so i can understand what you mean since I'm not some professional 3d modeler but i have some knowledge of it
>>
>>58734577
>how so
Because here you are talking about coding and modeling simple shapes as if it's some herculean task. That and your examples for games with cool guns were fucking Metro and Borderlands.
>>
File: 1761823257254242.gif (1.25 MB, 400x400)
1.25 MB
1.25 MB GIF
>>58719387
>>
>>58734590
i mean it kind of is not everyone is born with the gift at being good at blender or the time/investment but i also doubt a single course of blender or any other modeling application would change you into some amateur modeler also i doubt the guns would look good at all

>That and your examples for games with cool guns were fucking Metro and Borderlands

i can list more but i don't think they are relevant anymore, i just chose the most prominent relevant ones with guns that aren't real i mean i could bring halo up but some of those guns are super inspired
>>
Game Freak would've went out of their way to make Broncherry shit.
>>
>>58734241
Proof?
>>
File: 1763593577898.png (209 KB, 525x764)
209 KB
209 KB PNG
>>58723193
It's everywhere.
Also reminder that these same kind of people are the one who screamed over Nintendo to shut Palworld down and started the hellhole of Palworld lawsuit
>>
This game while fun leaks memory like a screen door on a submarine, I have to manually close it out after about 2 hours because the FPS dips to 75% of initial.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.