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>-10 Attack
>+49 Special Attack
>+61 Speed
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>>58719583
Industry Plant stats
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>>58719583
Shillmon privilege
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>>58719583
LMFAO they are so desperate to make thins shillmon good
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>>58719583
so is she gonna be OU or something?
Or thats not enough?
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>>58719611
Stats-wise, its definitely enough. Now we need to see if the ability will drop it to BL and launch it to Ubers (like Adaptability).
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>>58719583
PLEASE PLEASE WE'RE BEGGING YOU USE AURA SPHERE STOP USING CLOSE COMBAT
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>>58719583
Edgefaggots lost
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>>58719583
So all that shit about it focusing on defenses from the site was a lie?
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>>58719583
Still jobs to real time Earthquake AoE
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>>58719583
No Game Freak, I'm still not using this furfag monstrosity, I don't care how overpowered you fucking make it
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>>58719583
Z mega evolutions are supposed to be stronger but also run out faster than normal mega evolutions.
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>>58719752
that won't matter in Champions (the real game) which won't have a timer for megas. So you just have a industry plants with busted stats
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>>58719772
competitive fags need to be seriously killed on sight.
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>>58719583
>151 Speed
Just like... j-just like....... JUST LIKE THE AMOUNT OF POKEMON IN-
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>>58719792
Kek
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>>58719792
Every Z Mega have 151 speed...
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>>58719752
Not stronger, faster
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>>58719792
lmao
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>>58719621
The same people that wonder why we used shadow ball on a pokemon with 150 special atk.
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what the fuck is with the term "industry plant" suddenly showing up everywhere since last thursday
did the usual spambots/NPCs receive new programming
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>>58720019
I think it's zoomerspeak for "artificial popularity"
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>>58720168
>zoomerspeak
get with the times unc, ts alphaspeak
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>>58720171
Didn't ask, zoomer.
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>>58719583
Did the same with Garchomp Z
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>>58720171
>alpha
I will address these arseholes as what they are, gen A(rseholes), alpha my arse
I also do not recongise this greek alphabet bullshit, we simply wrap around back to Gen A, done..
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>>58719611
Mega Lucario was ubers in the 2 generations it was usable
Now imagine that but with even more minmaxed stats

Also if someone could kindly post that image comparing Mega Lucario to several generation 5 OU/ubers mons combined (with drawings) to explain just how busted it was, then that'd be nice
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>>58721005
>Mega Lucario was ubers in the 2 generations it was usable
that was back in gen 6-7, before the current powercreep
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>>58719583
It just invalidates the other one completely
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>>58721018
did i stutter?
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>>58720019
Discourse across all social media is driven by like 2 autists
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>>58721023
ok, so - how good would Mega Lucario be in CURRENT gen?
and how good will Mega Z be? (assuming it keeps Adaptability)
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>>58721032
I think Z is getting Mega LauncherIt would explains why they show Clawitzer and Dragalge in Z's reveal trailer
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>>58721032
>normal mega
probably OU because of powercreep, possibly banned to ubers, may or may not have a niche in there or just sit in the unofficial UUbers format (think ubers but anything above the usual tiers' usage thresholds is banned, regardless of original tier) where it'd probably do pretty well
>mega Z
horrible bioweapon banned to ubers, and it'll actually have a purpose there
i'm saying horrible bioweapon because, as that funny image you've probably seen recently states, would likely need niche counters that are either mostly/entirely useless in any other situation, or require spending way too much teambuilding resources to deal with them to the point where it opens multiple glaring holes for other threats to exploit

That does raise the (possibly rhetorical) question of what kind of theoretical counters would need to be brought into OU to somehow justify not banning Lucario-Mega-Z
Remember, it has 151 base speed (tied with Pheromosa and has more than Dragapult, Mega Alakazam, Deoxys normal and attack forms, Calyrex-Shadow, Zacian, Zamazenta, both Mewtwo megas, Mega Delphox, and a bunch of mons it had a type advantage against anyways) as well as good special Fighting, Steel, Dragon, Psychic, Dark, and Ghost coverage
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>>58719583
Link to the sheet please? Google sucks ass now I can't find it for the love of god
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>>58721170
This
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>>58719792
>>58719807
wait wtf it was intentional???
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>>58720171
>>58720985
Personally I refer to the gen after zoomers as the brainrotters. I hope others will pick up this term.
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>>58721032
The only reference point we have is Natdex, which is a higher power level than real metas, and Mega Lucario is still banned to Ubers there.
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>>58719583
>>>Meanwhile staraptor

>+20 atk
>+30 def / sp.def
>+10 sp.atk ?????????????????
>+10 speed

even pyroar got a better stat spread with it's flat 20/20/20/20/20

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>>58721173
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/186cXkyHVlvOSEoWOkpzpcTMkkUoE5j9sBO7R25HEKZg
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>>58721410
it'll probably get a defensive ability. Might even retain intimidate.
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>>58721415
That's probably hawlucha's niche since it gets better moves and actually looks bulky design wise. I have no clue what they were thinking with staraptor
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>>58721424
hawlucha's probably getting good as gold
although it is strange they made two fighting/flying megas with similar stat spreads. I'm sure whatever their abilities do end up being no matter our speculation, they'll be different based on that alone. Unless they just aren't, whatever. Who knows.
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>>58719583
Man by gen 12 we will be looking at 182 base speed and think "meh it's ok"
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when and how do we get lucarionite z
google and its results couldn't be more useless or irrelevant
please spoonfeed me



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