>Adira and Tierno are confirmed half siblings from different mother's.Where were you when divorces were confirmed canon in Pokémon? This franchise we grew up with is no longer comfy
Even the anime has referenced infidelity with that episode where they thought Norman was cheating on his wife with Nurse Joy
>>58722936The dub removed that funnily enough
>>58722917Who's to say Tierno's mom isn't dead.That still leaves his dad a deadbeat for abandoning him either way though I guess.
>>58722917most games has you living with your single mom so why do you act surprised
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>>58722975Everyone has a dad anon, even if they aren't around.
>>58722936Fuji’s wife left him in the anime after he became obsessed with cloning their dead daughter.
>>58722917Divorce doesn't have to be the reason their father remarried, anon. People die.
>>58722917Brocks parents
>>58723172Well, there's also the fact that Lida is from a different region. She was born and raised in Hoenn.
>>58722917might not be divorce. could just be an open marriage or cheating. Or even polygamy.
>>58723233>from hoenn>connected to water/ice types>juan is a womenizer, uses water types but his gym is full of snow and women
>>58723233How does that change anything? Do divorced people suddenly hate their country and go to another country to find a new partner?
>>58722917Anyone have a screenshot of her actually confirming this?
>>58723257You know Juan is localization only right? He's called Adam in japanese
>>58723233>>58723257Kinography
>>58723341Wait actually Adam would be a-da-mu but he's called a-da-n which is the spanish version of Adam ("Adán") so maybe he really is paldean in universe huh
>spanish womanizer who fucked a korean chick in France, left her with their kid and moved to Japan to have a daughter who would eventually move to France to follow her famous half-brother steps
>>58722971because a lot of the parents in pokemon are implied to be dead.SOMEthing happened to the generation immediately before the protags that led to a LOT of deaths.Damn near everybody is an orphan, raised by their grandparent(s), or single parented.You've got like what, Birch and Norman and Joseph Stone? Peony with Penny and Peonia. Nemona's parents are apparently rotomphone board members.The only ones we see are all VIPs. I've seen some people speculate in a major war. Surge specifically mentions one after all.My best guess if that's true, is it happened as a result of the rapid technological advancement after humans began to study pokemon instead of fear them. According to Drayden, pokeballs weren't a widespread thing when he was a child, and given Kurt's age, I'm willing to bet he's an expert on Apricorn balls not because he specializes in revived techniques but he was a craftsman of that time who learned it firsthand.Meaning PLZA tech level and pokemon-integration-level is likely less than 100 years ago.And since that time, they've invented space travel, point-to-point teleportation technology, time travel, dimensional travel, revivification of entities eons dead, rediscovered lifeforce to energy conversion to break thermodynamics, hard-light projections, cloning and extreme genetic engineering, the creation of life from digital code, however the fuck TMs work presumably some kind of brain upload the same way EXP share works, and anti-gravity.Oh and some people have started developing psychic powers, occult curses, and superhuman strength.Not to mention there's been major instability events like criminal invasion of major corporations, multiple instances of ideological terrorists awakening ancient myths, and an alien invasion.Meanwhile some towns still barely have electricity.It all seems very destabilizing.
>>58723257>>58723369...Huh
>>58723412er pla tech level. Hisui was basically less than 100 years ago.
>>58723412God i want a pokemon themed citybuilder.
>>58723412>SOMEthing happened to the generation immediately before the protags that led to a LOT of deaths.Keep your youtube theories out of this, retard
>>58723441>finally get a new road down>ALERT ALERT Cataclysm Immanent>CAN YOU TERRORIST FUCKS STOP DIGGING UP NEW ELDER GODS TO AWAKEN FOR FIVE GODDAMN MINUTES. I'M STARTING TO FEEL SORRY FOR THE THINGS, JUST LET CTHULHU SLEEP.
>>58723455>Keep your youtube theories out of this, retardSurge explicitly says he fought in a war and nearly died if it wasn't for his pokemon.If there was a war, and it killed people, and now there's a bunch of missing adults, it's not hard to put two and two together to say they died in the war.
>>58722975>car culture even in fucking Alolagrim
>>58723459The world war, retard, remember Pokemon used to be just our world with (some) pokemon. Why do you think they no longer reference that or Surge being "american"?
>>58722917Crowbar.Give me the fuckin' crowbar.
>>58722917It's not divorce, it's polygalmy
>>58723369This would be so fucking funny.
>>58723100Deserved. In the time he spent trying to "revive" her, they could have raised another one or two.
>>58723172>people dieThat makes his dad look like an even bigger piece of shit
>>58722917>tierno grew up to be a fat retard because he was raised by a single momMany such cases
>>58723554Did you truly love your daughter if you're willing to move on so easily and not hunt down a mythical Pokemon and get funded by the mob to create a super strong Pokemon all in order to revive her?
>>58722975Cope
>>58723554>>58723595Going from the Birth of Mewtwo into the rest of the movie with Ash is the biggest whiplash of any of the movies
>>58722917Lida has been failed by her parents and Tierno and is now property of Philippe.
>>58723563Ah yes because widowers aren't allowed to fall in love again
>>58723662SnK fans will tell you that even if you only loved each other and never got in a relationship you aren't allowed to fall in love again if one of you dies.
>>58723412Lt. Surge existing shows that there are both militaries and wars in the pokeverse. The uncomfortable truth might be that many of the adults were killed in the great pokewar.
>>58723678One could even go so far as to theorize that after the war violence was codified into nonlethal pokemon battles as a direct result of the loss of life from the war. This would explain why there are no more militaries and instead it has been replaced with a system of gym leaders and the elite four being responsible for responding to crisises.
>>58723678That was early lore that has long since been retconned. Surge was introduced in a time where the Pokemon world was just an alternate version of the real world.Now it's its own thing, and Surge is no longer called the Lightning American, just the Lightning Lieutenant
>>58723456You know it's funny, despite all the elder god awakening, the closest we have to a proper cult is Zinnia with the Draconids, and the Diamond and Pearl Clans, who are somehow all good guys.
>>58723675SnK had the MC being half brothers with a main antagonist precisely because his father remarried tho
>>58723662No you retard because it implies he just abandoned his son after his wife died
>>58723675Is this referring to how they had a meltdown after Eren got cucked?
>>58723712if my son was Tierno i'd abandon his fat ass too
>>58723687>This would explain why there are no more militaries and instead it has been replaced with a system of gym leaders and the elite four being responsible for responding to crisisesBut they aren't responsible for it. Both local and international police exists. Any other strong trainer just intervene because they themselves want to help and there doesn't seem to be a law against vigilantism.
>>58723341>You know Juan is localization only rightYes and? This name was chosen for a reason.
>>58723606For Takeshi Shudo, it was Tuesday. Of course, this is the man who ended up having a similar obsession with Lugia.
>>58722971The anime confirmed towards the end that Ash's parents are still together
>>58722917Who's Adidas?
>>58723951I don't know if this makes his dad even more shit than the version Shudo wrote. His son gets placed in the final bracket of every league tournament, reaches the finals of the Kalos league, wins the Alola league, and becomes the world champion. Yet not once does this guy go to support his son or call him. What was his reaction when he heard his wife got kidnapped by "Entei" or his son got wrapped up in multiple cataclysmic events? There's no way this useless sack of shit has more work than Oak who runs a lab with hundreds of Pokemon, appears on radio and public speakings yet is still there for Ash.
>>58723951This is alternate universe Ash
>>58722971Your parents are together in all Pokemon games, we just never see our character's father in any game besides HoennRed actually comments about a show his father would likely enjoy in the Kanto titles
>>58724012>>58724032Ash is based on Red and Red's father was originally going to be the Silph Co. employee that gifts Lapras (this was changed later for unknown reasons). So, if TPC still remembers this fact and ignored Shudo's lore, we can assume Ash's father is a key developer at Silph Co.
>>58724063You said yourself that this was changed from the game we actually got so Red's dad doesn't work for Silph (as far as we know). Regardless they've tried their best to distance Ash and Red from each other ever since Red's design change in gen 3.
>>58724091More like, ever since inception. Red never wore blue jackets, had red shoes and tended to wear his cap backwards more than just occasionally. Also, Ash has a tan, those marks on his cheeks and notably spikier hair, despite the similar haircut.
>>58722917I prefer to think divorces aren't canon to Pokemon and instead this is just polyamory
>>58723486The player's mother is the catalyst for the complete eradication of traditional Alolan culture
>>58722991and why do you think dads aren't around? Because they're unfaithful whores who sleep around with anything with a pussy
>>58722917There was already that Shuppet side quest where it detected a man's imminent divorce and saved his marriage.
>>58722917>Where were you when divorces were confirmed canon in Pokémon?I was in 2023 when I played Detective Pikachu Returns.
>>58724205It's the Japanese trope of the housekeeping mother and the father who works hard to provide for the family, but rarely gets to return home.The Pokémon series has kept it consistent with every mainline entry where the main character starts at home living with only their mother, and you can see it in other Japanese works like the Mega Man Battle Network series.
>>58722917>Adirabrown
>>58724358>you can see it in other Japanese works like the Mega Man Battle Network series.Yeah, but Lan's dad at least attempts to mantain a relationship with both his wife and son.Hell, his studies allowed him to save a digital version of his second child who died when he was a baby (Hub, anyone?)He is, so far, the best gaming dad. The greatest is Lee Everett.
>>58724372>He is, so far, the best gaming dad.What about Akira? When his daughter cried, he responded by killing God.
>>58724145Eh. Their designs are close enough during gen 1. And the Kanto anime took a lot more liberties with game character designs than later series, not just with Ash/Red (Erika, Bill, Sabrina). Tajiri also referred to both the game and anime protag as Satoshi in an interview during the gen 1 era.
>>58724447The point is they were decidedly different from the start, not just since Gen3. Red is also implied to be the opposite of Green/Blue/Gary, who is impatient and selfish. Ash was never too selfish but he was pretty inconsiderate early on and kept being impatient for the rest of the show.In contrast, Jimmy is pretty much just Gold/Ethan.
>>58723459>>58723515It's been 30 years. Safe to say that such factors no longer apply.
>>58724607>The point is they were decidedly different from the start, not just since Gen3Yeah but I feel like the design changes Nishida did for Red, Brock and Misty was to make their designs more appealing for the anime rather than just to make sure Ash does not get confused for the game protagonist. Personality doesn’t really seem to matter when it comes to Red pre gen 6 in anime and manga when you compare special, zensho, Origins, and the Clefairy manga.
>>58724976>changes Nishida did for Red, Brock and Misty was to make their designs more appealing for the animeWhat?
>>58724205Who do you think pays rent and buys food for the family? It's not the stay at home mom.
>>58723459It was Operation Desert Storm retard, Pokémon was written in the 90s, is contemporary, and war exists at all times. There was no "great war/purge" where all the fathers in the world were sent to die. There is no big hidden narrative reason why healing Pokémon is free. Pokémon is not post-apocalyptic. Thousands of Japanese children did not die from listening to Lavender Town's music.The dad is usually not present because Pokémon is fundamentally meant to be a coming-of-age story and the presence of a father as anything other than someone to be overcome is a narrative distraction.Fucking brainrotted fans
Their dad
>>58723369I didnt buy the DLC. Is fatty actually famous now?
>>58725578The base game has an npc that says he's hitting it big in Unova.
>>58723412It's more likely a lot of the fathers in the Pokemon universe are akin to Japanese businwssmen, i.e. they're busy overworking themselves to death, drinking, etc. Seems to be the case with Ash's dad who's confirmed to exist but just isn't around.
>>58724350>I was in 2023 when I played Detective Pikachu ReturnsMy condolences…
>>58725450what the fuck is that from
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>>58727037https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Goone
>>58727237>Tierno and Lida's father is a gooner
>>58727237Holy fucking shit
>>58727233Kanto characters>Will>Janine>SilverJohto characters>Bill>Lance>Brendan/May (as the protagonist)>NormanHoenn characters>Kabu>Lida>Not Glacia
>>58722971>single momNever the case. The protagonist's father is simply in the salaryman grind of being at work 24/7, which is very standard for Japanese families, which is expected from Pokemon, a Japanese franchise.
>>58727233Like I said, she's probably from Lilycove because it's the only place you can find Staryu in Hoenn.
>>58722917Nigga SV had literal child neglect and parent death, what the fuck are you talking about??
>>58725243>Thousands of Japanese children did not die from listening to Lavender Town's music.where the fuck is that from?>The dad is usually not present because Pokémon is fundamentally meant to be a coming-of-age story and the presence of a father as anything other than someone to be overcome is a narrative distraction.it's not just the protags dad. And again, a lot of kids are EXPLICTLY orphans.
>>58729021Juan....
