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What are your unpopular Pokémon opinions?
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>>58726383
the series is in the shitter since gen 6
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>>58726383
I prefer it when Pokémon games are slower and more tedious. It helps give the journey a bit more stakes when it feels like I've wasted more hours on it.

>>58726390
It pains me that this is actually an unpopular opinion these days.
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>>58726383
VGC is the best implementation of multiplayer rpg vs gameplay and more in general it's an amazing strategy game, shame that normal people scoff it because of it being attached to pokémon, and most pokémon fans scoff it too because their rather spend their evening hunting for shinies
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>>58726383
Game Freak takes too much of the blame from the fans. 80% is pure incompetence from Creatures or TPC.
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The type chart just makes no god damned sense. Really. Dark is good against ghost?! Ghosts live in the dark.

It could have been perfect if Gen 2 just added "light" type and wasn't afraid to remix the chart a little bit to give dragon a second thing it's weak too and a second thing it's resisted by.
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>>58726383
Megas are the worst thing to happen to the Pokemon franchise
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>"well at least the series is still good for le girls/porn!"

no. it isn't. it hasn't been in a long time
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>>58726714
Lopunny is still so fuckable tho
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>>58726390
>>58726401
People only hate on (not to be confused with actual criticism) older games, HGSS, BW2, Emerald especially, now as retaliation for criticism against gen 6+. They were once universally considered the best, but now that kids whose first console was a 3DS and never played a pre-gen-6 Pokemon game (because they think downloading a ROM will get them arrested) have grown up and make up a majority of the Internet we have to endlessly hear their opinions and see them get mad that long time players think the series went downhill when they first started it. I dont ever want to hear Pokemon opinions from someone born after the Nintendo DS released.
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>>58726719
i thought this was the unpopular opinions threads
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>>58726714
>unironically caring about LE MEMES AND PORN
This is why you 4chinners can't find a woman lol
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>>58726737
>unironically caring about 3dpd shit
This is why you will never be free.
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>>58726390
>3D killed pokemon
>unpopular opinion
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>>58726753
It's unpopular with anyone born after 2004
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singles is retarded and anyone basing their opinions on a pokemons strenght or lack thereof on its singles viability should be ignored
swsh were good
bdsp were good
both legends games have been shit, but za less so. pla is the worst pokemon game
the battle frontier was shit and anyone saying they miss it never played it. id be open to it coming back now, because teambuilding resources and gamefreak's skills at making challenging npc sets have come a long way, but in gens 3/4 it was just "how long can you last before a sheer cold lands"
overworld shinies were a mistake
tera was fantastic
dynamax was fine
megas were awful
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>>58726383
Megas have always been hot garbage
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>58726758
(you)
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>>58726383
in irl:
jerking off to pokelolis, pokehebes, female coded pokemon is fine because they are fictional characters.
in 4channel.org/vp before 2014:
shinnoh is a kusoge tier
in 4channel.org/vp current:
BW/BW2 are kusoge tier
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>>58726744
I'm already free to make fun of 4chin faggots thoughever
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>>58726758
Your first game was Sun/Moon
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>>58726383
Gen 2 is amazing
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>>58726804
SV*
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>>58726726
This. Kinda like FF7 is hated in retrospect (beyond its actual flaws) because fans that started with later entries grew tired of the constant comparison with their favorite game.
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>>58726714
It’s because of Gen 9 tranny worship.

I imagine aesthetics are returning to form come Gen 10, Z-A has plenty of actually cute characters.
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>>58726821
Oh it certainly shows
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It's honestly a mediocre game series and the early gens aren't that great either.
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Margo is the hottest Pokegirl.
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>>58726383
I find it unfair that the quality of most gens is determined by their third versions, considering these were already working under a pre-established base and are barely QoL updates + DLC over the duo versions. Gen 3 is carried as a whole by Emerald, Gen 4 as a whole if it had to be carried by DP it would be embarrassing, HGSS are at least very competently well made. BW and BW2 while really good we're really lackluster in the spinoff department, which was by far the richest during Gen 4.
Everything that came after those gens can barely stand on its two feet.
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>>58726383
Lysandre did nothing wrong
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>>58726861
Why did you leave twitter
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>>58726890
It became X, more of a Y fan
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>>58726835
Funny how both FF and Pokemon died with two soulless hallways, FF13 and SwSh respectively
FF7 and Gen 5 will always be kino.
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>>58726861
No it's not. Earlier gens (1-5) are good RPGs, and i'll died on that hill.
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>>58726383
I think BDSP was a great game and the graphics were reminiscent of the original games.
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Pokemon was never good
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>>58727137
suck my dick
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Jacking off to children and animals isn't a personality trait. You're not oppressed by society either.
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3D is what killed the series. The core gameplay was designed around a two-dimensional plane and the gaps that imagination fills in. Contemporaries like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest that made the jump vastly increased the scale to compensate, something that Pokemon never did. Dungeons/caves were never that large in Pokemon for example but you could obfuscate scale in 2D because of the limited screen real estate you can see at any given time and so exploring what are actually pretty simple and small maps when pulled back, felt like more involved experiences. The games look and feel awful because they're still designing the games like they're being played on a Gameboy with exaggerated scale. Sword & Shield would probably be a great region had it been 2D.
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Unova dex is good.
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>>58726726
not our fault newfags weren't around for the peak of the series. if they're happy eating slop then let them. that said it's always fun reading their comments on YouTube when they finally try and prefer the older stuff
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>>58726383
Children are hot and it's okay to jack off to them
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>>58726726
I’ve never seen this, I’ve only ever seen rightful praise for the older games
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>>58726383
>$3600 for a New 3DS with a shitty skin
>$1300 for a DS Lite with a shitty skin
>$1300 for a GBC with a decent-ish skin
The GBC maybe I get cuz it looks new in box and is way older than the other 2, but goddamn
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>>58726383
Third versions are better than DLCs
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>>58726383
Pokemon isn't a mere franchise, it's a religion.
Future generation will consider Pokemon mightier than Catholic church
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>>58727998
That's Nintendo as a whole tho
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>>58726755
It's outright comical.
When pokemon was 2D we couldn't wait for it to finally jump into 3D. Now that the series has been 3D for years, we want the series to return to 2D.
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>>58726758
>swsh were good
opinion discarded
that's not unpopular opinion, it's just having brain tumors
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>>58726755
My sister was born in 07 still considers anything after BW not worth playing even when I bought her US
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>>58727131
I feel people have a very skewed perception of what a "good" RPG actually is no other turn based RPG provides the mechanical depth of the average pokemon game and the DS era had some of the best map design of any RPG of its kind as well I'd unironically consider platinum and BW as being some of the greatest JRPGs ever made when you take all that into account
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>>58726753
XY and beyond still would have been trash if they were 2D with sprites. When Masuda was run out of directing for being "too mean" (i.e. expecting the lazy devs to do their fucking job) and for actually caring about the customers' opinions, this franchise was doomed to go to shit either way. Sugimori is a hack who doesn't get nearly enough criticism for ruining the franchise.
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>>58727131
1 and 2 are outright bad RPGs and 3-5 are mediocre. The standards are just lower for Pokemon so mediocrity looks like a godsend.
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FUECOCO IS THE BEST
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>>58728146
The real redpill that nostalgiafags don't want to swallow is, if they ever went back to 2D, they would suck at that too. Their 2D graphics already were never the best around back then, and now it's been 12 years of them making exclusively 3D games and presumably losing whatever institutional know-how they once had for 2D sprites. A modern 2D Pokemon game from GF would look and play like one of those cheap Kemco RPGs at best.
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Spin-offs died when smartphones become a thing. Someone should go back in time and assassinate Steve Jobs.
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>>58728668
1 and 2 were really good for game boy games in the time they came out.
the other options on game boy at the time were mostly like tetris, other puzzle games that were shit, shitty space shooters, platformers, garbage ports, and stuff that was just dogshit.
and it was an interesting concept even if it wasn't on game boy and it started it all. so there's no way you can call it bad unless you're a fuckin retard.
which is why it became a world wide phenomenon, but you weren't born until 15 years later so you couldn't possibly know.
then 3 ruined the tone of the games but had a lot of mechanical depth, so it was good for the time it came out, but some bad decisions and not really that impressive anymore, especially the graphics.
4 was actually a joke that ran like shit so they did a terrible job until platinum. that's when it became pretty mediocre in comparison to other games.
5 was actually pretty good for the time it came out, but the in-game animations were animated like shit. they had to make tons so that's reasonable. still made bad decisions and wasn't overly impressive.
and then gens 6-9 were extremely dogshit for the time they came out.
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I like SV and the DLC. Blueberry featuring double battles is amazing for me, and I just want more doubles
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Singles is godawful and should have never been the default playstyle since the earliest NES JRPGs had parties of at least 3
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Most Pokémon are pretty much sentient and can consent. You're a morally repugnant person if you wouldn't take their feelings seriously.
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>>58726383
Games focus WAY too much on humans.
Pokemon themsleves need more focus gameplay wise.
How is there no minigames you play with your mons to rise EV/IV while camping?

Speaking of Camping- It should have become staple since gen8.
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>>58727534
Yet best way to enjoy Pokemon now is Cobblemon that is 3d and openworld.
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>>58728803
>minecraft graphics
nah I'm never playing anything like that
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Putting pokemon in the PC turns off their awareness basically killing them for how much time until you take them out.
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>>58728682
Agreed BDSP was a 2D entry in all but name overseen by the same man who gave us the best of the 2D era and it was still a wet turd now imagine Masuda trying to make another game while tard wrangling the current staff of GF
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>>58728705
Final Fantasy Legend/SaGa and Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest were on the gameboy
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>>58728146
>we
just retards
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>>58728092
Yeah surely tendies are the most fanatical compared to other console fags. however, inside Nintendo itself, Pokemon visibly is the most zealous one compared to other nintendo titles.
>segregates itself from other nintendo titles (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc.) consider themselves the elite.
>sees other nintendo title franchises as inferior to Pokemon
>Infighting between Nintendo fans, and Pokemon fans are the most aggressive one (especially when it comes to games, which Pokemon fans start retaliate by bringing merchs; which other titles are weak on).
Pokemon TCG scalper, OP's pic are the proofs.
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>>58726705
Ghosts types merely adopted the dark.

Dark types, however, are born in it. Molded by it.
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>>58728705
>5 was actually pretty good for the time it came out,
No it wasn't.
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Kalos 3rd title: Pokemon Z should happened
Sinnoh remake would be better if it is on 3DS instead of Switch
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>>58729178
Explain why
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>>58726383
ZA is pretty dang good
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>>58729185
Why would I when you won't explain how it's good?
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>>58729187
So you can win the argument once and for all
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>>58729189
Why would I write an argument when you won't write one?
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>>58728803
The best way to enjoy pokemon is, and had always been, RBY+Stadium with your friends/siblings
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>>58729154
>Pokemon visibly is the most zealous one compared to other nintendo titles
BOTW/TOTK drones are legit worse than the Game Freak bootlickers at this point. You can't state any unflattering facts about their Ubislop garbage without them screeching at you that you're "ERIC SNOY OOTSNOY CUBESNOY" and a bunch of other schizobabble. At least GF's cocksuckers can still write sentences that you don't have to be as mentally ill as they are to be able to parse.
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>the pacing between the first two kalos gyms is how the pacing between every gym should be
>the grand underground didn't fix sinnoh's distribution problem, just shoved random options in a side area
>speaking of, the encounter tables do more harm for sinnoh than the abysmal speed problems
>bottle caps existing doesn't make IVs any less stupid of a gameplay mechanic
>EVs need to be properly explained in-game for how influential they are on a pokemon's stats, the closest we ever got to this was super training
>SWSH actually looks graphically okay in most places that aren't the wild area
>SV only needs partial level scaling (i.e. if you "skip" a major battle it should be stronger when you come back to it, but areas stronger than you shouldn't scale down)
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David is not as bad as his haters here made him out to be. He’s just a dense fuck.
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>>58729173
I appreciate the badman, but this is just weird reasoning.

Bugs resist ground because they life in the ground. Using that same logic ghost should resist dark.
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SwSh has the best dlc content out of all the Switch Pokemon games, now including ZA's dlc
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>>58726390
since gen 5 or 7, gen 6 was the last decent gen.
Old gens ended with HGSS btw.
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>>58726383
Considering the sales,
saying anything bad about the franchise might as well be unpopular opinion
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>>58729249
inferior experience to GBA games + GC games
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>>58726383
Mega Evolution was a mistake. GF should've added more cross-gen evolutions instead.
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>>58726696
How? The only thing Creature can be blames for is models of the Pokémon. Every other issue with th games is from a game freak being lazy and hating their fans for liking the “wrong” pokemon
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>>58726383
>Dark and Fairy should never have been types
>Sinnoh’s dex is amongst the worst
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Here's a fun one: Pokemon games aren't reviewbombed, this is all natural reactions considering that other Switch2 games have come with issues, yet it's never THIS bad.
Pokemon fans need to learn that covering their ears and screaming LA LALALALA is not a good counter argument.
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>>58730693
>>58730693
Meta critic user reviews are unreliable bullshit because you do not actually need to have bought the game to leave a review.
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>>58730693
Yup yup
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>>58726406
Believe it or not faggot, you can shiny hunt and put those mons on your team.
You aren't attending regionals, internats, or worlds anyway so the fear of even being in a situation where foul play even matters shouldn't cross your mind. Ideal 0 speed mons are either shiny locked or can be bred, wouldn't use shinies of those.
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Singles is much better than doubles. I actually like Smogon and don't pay any attention to VGC.
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>>58727127
Hallway shit started with FF10, to be fair.
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>>58730693
Palworld and Switch-era Pokemon both suck shit and trying to find superiority there is laughable.
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>>58730428
The GC games suck though
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>>58726383
Kalos was just as if not more woke than Paldea.
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Ethnic pokegirls are hotter than the Japanese or white ones.
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Mainline should steal from the Orre games and make doubles the default battle format.
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No one cares what you jerk off to. Stop telling everyone, you sad fucking perv.
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You should tell everyone what arouses you. It's the best way to manifest more of it in the world.
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God nothing gets be hard like a stable economy, honest pay for a fair work week, and affordable housing.
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>>58731328
Such a cold take.
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>>58726383
Is sealed worth it? Looks overpriced desu
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>>58726383
Hoopa is a legendary pokemon created solely to provide a valid reason for excusing several loose ends in something related to the franchise.

>>58730441
>game freak being lazy
TPC not giving them time (yes, GF were incompetent when they had enough time to produce a game)
>hating their fans for liking the “wrong” pokemon
That's TPC being butthurt as usual

>>58731381
Why are you posting facts in an opinion thread?
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>>58732382
What about this is unpopular?
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>>58726383
shiny hunting was at it's best when it was niche, time-consuming, and inaccessible
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>>58726383
1) Legendaries should be NPC-only, bosses, gym-leader teams and enemy trainer Pokémon only.
2) Less is more. Gimmicks need to go.
3) Every Pokémon should have a defined niche. And avoid gimmicks like the plague.
4) Not every Pokémon should have a signature move or a signature ability.
5) Some Pokémon after generation 5 should be removed or standardised to remove some of their gimmicks.
6) You don't need a story about saving the world.
7) References are weak. Pokémon should be trendsetters, not trend followers.
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>>58726708
>>58730431
true, most of them look shite too but most people (and half of /vp/) excuse it because they get to see their heckin best boi get a new design.
They don't even need to market the new dexes anymore, they just pick a few shillmons and then show us recycled favorites and 95% of the fans lap it up.
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>>58726383
SV is one of the best mainline games.
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I actually enjoy playing pokemon
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>>58733433
You sickfuck, seek help
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i do not want a gen 5 remake. haven't since ORAS, although BDSP(and all the switch titles for that matter) has of course only exacerbated this for me.

not only will it be a steaming pile of shit as to be expected by now, but it will make the discourse surrounding anything unova somehow more unbearable than it already is, likely by multiple factors.
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>>58726383
Pokémon RGBY was the single WORST (original IP) game in Game Freak's early catalogue and I'll forever be mad that it usurped games that actually deserved sequels like Pulseman, Bushi Seiryuuden, or Drill Dozer.
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>>58734254
>i do not want a gen 5 remake
pretty cold take, only other thing you could've said to make it colder was that you want it in an octopath style
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>>58726726
>They were once universally considered the best
The opposite is true. I hated gen 3 on release and like it now. BW sold like shit because it's insipid and derivative. I hate people trying to rewrite history. Praise for gen 5 only started when gen 6 came out and everyone hate it for being 3D. If Pokemon stayed 2D nobody would give a fuck about BW.
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>>58726383
I like Pokemon, all of it.
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>>58735441
Bruh
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>>58735430
I loved BW since the moment it came out.
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>>58735393
Most of this thread is full of cold takes.



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