Has the fun run out?
shitronakeks lost, loligods won
>>58738501She is 27 and still fertile and desired.
>>58738501We must fix this. I'll get her pregnant
>>58738501...whats the point?
>doesnt need a random kid because is already the most popular on her own (not to mention has popular loli version of herself)Instead she'll be shown immortal like Cogita/Volo
I bet Cynthia calls herself a 'dogmon' and has a dozen eevees and riolu running around. She needs hag correction immediately
>>58738521>lucarios breedmareunf
>>58738521Glaceon is a cat
>>58738525Fox*
>>58738528that's Eevee
>>58738516>not to mention has popular loli version of herselfScary how much fanart was made from a 15 sec slideshow of little Cynthia
>>58738501>no offspring>effectively an unwanted hag by japanese standards with how old she likely is now>no longer the strongest trainer (dethroned by GODnie/UrGOD and their full level 100 team featuring four megas)>diantha yuricucks btfo by ansha existingNow that Masuda's out of the picture, they no longer have to pretend Cynthia is anything special.
>>58738578shawn-tier melty
>>58738501Yep it's over, time for her to be vored.
>>58738516>Instead she'll be shown immortal like Cogita/VoloIf there is a Legends game set in the future - it will 100% have immortal Cynthia cameoShe is perfect for that role, like Cogita was in PLA
>>58738510>She is 27Holy hag
>>58738578She had her reign over the franchise for 20 years, so it's ok to finally step down and give another woman who will never live up to her a shot.
>>58738594for pokemon fans 16+ is hag already
>>58738597They will never make another popular champion, so its just gonna be Cynthia foreverLong live the Queen
>>58738501Of the cast in DPPt, who would realistically be options for her (hell even count trainer classes if you want)
>>58738597>>58738605Cynthia is objectively 10x more popular nowadays than when DP came out. Other champions flopping also contributed to her evergreen popularity
>>58738621
>>58738621Palmeror Volkner if she wants someone younger who doesn't already have kids
Cynthia can be the cool auntie to Dianthas kid desu, thats cuteespecially if Diantha is always away doing movies
>>58738628he is stuck in DW + autistic>>58738629>Palmertoo old>Volknergay with Flint
>>58738628We don't talk about how she would be the one to fill his dark soul with light
>>58738660What about Lucian?
>>58738660Riley. They can study Aura together and explore Iron Island and shit>>58738671Lucian is so obviously gay
>>58738671>LucianProbably the "best" adult male option among the DPPT cast desu. But its more like from having 0 competition
>>58738688I forget is Lucian a bookworm like Shauntal or just well-read, cause if the latter that would at least be something he has going
The world's biggest meterosexual or he's doing something with his Gallade.
>>58738510It’s been over a decade since DPPt took place in universe. It’s over.
>Steven is gay>Leon is gay>Alder is old as dirtthat only leaves Lance..
>>58738733>>Steven is gaysays who
>>58738650Honestly wouldn't be surprised if we do see that happening down the road considering how they've been slightly pushing the idea of Cynthia and Diantha being pals.
>>58738763Wallace
>>58738774Wallace is so gay, he might be straight again.
>>58738501No offense to Diantha, but that they decided to randomly give her a child is proof that she's very unpopular and therefore a safe bet for an experiment like this that changes her character perception as a whole. At best you can see this as an attempt to try to revitalize Diantha's character, but again, giving a character a off-screen kid like this is not something you do with a popular character people give a fuck about. It's too risky for their "brand".Like, you won't be seeing something like this with Cynthia or Steven because GF won't risk getting kyoani'd by a schizo waifufag or fujo.
>>58738718Cynthia has superior Celestian genes. She's gonna age even better than Lusamine did.
>>58738782>Cynthia has superior Celestian genes. >She's gonna age even better than Lusamine did.yeahSM is set ~15-17 years or so after DDPT and she looked the same in Alola as she did in Sinnoh/Unova..
>>58738793Eh, let's not take the half the cameos there at face value.Wally still looks fucking 13.
She
>>58738796>middle-eastern
>>58738733>that only leaves Lance..Not the worst honestly. but his cock belongs to Clair.
Cynthia cameo in Gen 10.Ansha was beta testing to see how people would react to potential re-appearances of old Champions.Source: My uncle is drinking buddies with Ohmori.
>>58738810>Cynthia cameo in Gen 10.I could see itBut if not, theres still Unova remakes and that 4-region Japan game (if not cancelled)
>>58738811You can be sure that MMO thing will be a Red and Cynthia circlejerk.
>>58738798>>middle-easternHonestly ruined Iris for meI thought she was native american or blackbut she is a goat fucker??
>>58738816Leonsisters...
>>58738816>MMO thing will be a Red and Cynthia circlejerk.As it should be
>>58738501
>>58739255holy cringe and mindbroken
>>58738830>Leon
She is a strong independent woman who doesn't need to be burdened by family life
There is NO adult man in Sinnoh worthy of Cynthia..
>>58739373>There is NO adult man in Sinnoh worthy of Cynthia..trvke
>>58738621Riley
>>58738559People have been waiting to see kid Cynthia since she mentioned her pokemon journey in the original DPP
>>58738621>Of the cast in DPPt, who would realistically be options for herLooker. They're both pretty similar in their curiosity for the unknown
>>58739303>so cucked he needs tutoring from Cynthia's significantly less talented ancestorIts leonover
>>58739255This is worse than ESL
Lucas
>>58738628Mars would kill her.
>>58739303Them still shilling Leon is beyond me.
>>58738501She can always be an aunt or godmother to Ansha.
>>58738501Now she's ready to become a mother.
>>58738501eggs status?
>>58739255Pregnant women's arms/hands don't get fat unless they were all already fat lol.
>>58738501But she's always surrounded by children...
>>58740101I am genuinely convinced that Leon is someone high up there in the ladder Self-Insert/OC that now that they're in a powerful enough position went and turned him into a reality rather than a fanfic from their highschool notebooks no one but them will see. Maybe Ohmori? I don't know. I wish we'd have been able to get the character profiles of Gen 8 from the Teraleak too. That'd have enlightened up things a ton.But really, some point you just have to raise an eyebrow because of how much they've shoving him down your throat. How desperate they are at wanting you to like him. Like, hell, I honestly think that they gave him a Charizard not to shill Charizard but to shill Leon instead.It's just eerie.
>>58738510you tell 'em Cynthia
>>58740292I've always liked how personable Cynthia is. She's always hanging out and interacting with all sorts of people.She treats everyone equally and is really chill and humble despite her position.
>>58738600it's true
>>58740101not that much, he is a champion and all champions get an arc suit in Mastersex.even Alder got onedesu the biggest shilling Masters has is for ... Unova (as a region)
>>58740305>>58740292
>>58740289Fat arms are cute tho
>>58740355>... Unova (as a region)Wtf I love mastersex now
>>58740355They let Leon be the first one to beat Red and Red gets wanked to high heaven in Masters. They even advertised the thing on newspapers. It was really silly.>desu the biggest shilling Masters has is for ... Unova (as a region)True. But you can tell that's on Dena and not on TPC mandates.
>>58740538>They let Leon be the first one to beat Redhe lost at first. they made it very clear that leon only won the rematch thanks to the arceus buffand not the first lolRed lost several times in Masters
>>58740293>I am genuinely convinced that Leon is someone high up there in the ladder Self-Insert/OC that now that they're in a powerful enough position went and turned him into a reality rather than a fanfic from their highschool notebooks no one but them will seeIn that case wouldnt he be Japanese
>>58740548>leon only won the rematch thanks to the arceus buffImagine being such a fraud you need literal divine intervention to save your ass against a dude with a Pikachu
>>58740548A win's a win. And it's a very meaningful win considering the pedestal Masters puts Red on.Don't look at things just from a powerscaling sense. Look at the narrative of the story and the message it is pushing.>Red lost several times in MastersCool. Never shown on-screen nor they made a big deal out of them. Meanwhile the opposite happened with Red vs Leon.What is the message here? What is the company trying to make you see and think?They're not doing this with the intention being for people to think >>58740626 this. They're doing it with the intention being for people to think "wow, Leon sure is awesome, he managed to beat Red and be blessed by Arceus! He sure is super duper strong!".>>58740556Not really.You know your idealized self doesn't necessarily has to be literally you, right? In fact, that almost defeats the point. Tons of people self-inserts are completely different from how they are IRL. Surely you've seen countless self-inserts from your time on the internet, right?Doesn't necessarily have to be a self-insert too. Just an OC donut steel fits too.
>>58738510
>>58742237she is immortal, has all the time
>>58740292Heheh, yeah
>>58742558W-What happens after...
>>58738501It's YUROVER!
>>58739671Volo is one of the most talented people in history. Dude grew up in an era where Pokemon where still considered dangerous monsters and not only managed to catch and train 6 high level Pokemon but also met and conspired with Giratina to take down Arceus. The sheer will and talent required to achieve this is otherwordly. Especially for someone not favored by Arceus.
>>58740626Nothing to do with the thread but she looks really cool in that fanart way better than that Mori Calliope knock off design in Mastersex.
>>58738793Umm actshually>Red and Blue are 10 year olds in their games>They are 20 in SuMo because 20th anniversary, confirmed in Teraleak>RGBY and RSE take place at the same time>GSC and DPPT take place at the same time but GSC takes place 3 years after RGBYCynthia is 27 + 7 = 34 years old in SuMo.
>>58743583No he grew up in Arceusgartha where people had full control over Pokemon without the need of moves or Pokeballs. Only after the fall of Arceusgartha and sinking of Lucarmia did humans lose the powerful connection that Celestials like Volo and Cogita have. The Diamond and Pearl Clans fear Pokemon because they are children of the Bronzong Age, rather than the ascended Heart Gold Age humans like the Celestials were.
>>58738778This. Omg I want Steven x Cynthia to happen now I want ro watch this fandom BURN. Does this mean my husbando Lance is going to be next??
>>58741340>You know your idealized self doesn't necessarily has to be literally you, right?Theres usually at least some point of connection otherwise it's just a different person entirely. Not to mention Leon just seems way too eccentric and weird looking to be anyone's self insert. Id be more likely to believe Cynthia is the dev teams self insert given shes an archetypically attractive woman with a cool sleek design and a laid back mysterious demeanor. Contrast that with Leon both looking and acting like a clown whenever he's on screen(which is the whole reason why people hate him)
>>58738628Holy sigma couple their children would be absolutely deranged
>>58742413Bloodline deluged since the time of PLA. Cynthia’s grandma is a hag and the game makes it clear that’s the side of the family all about mysticism.
>>58743658Maybe it's only the Sinnoh people who have a connection to the lake trio who are immortal?
>>58743583>but also met and conspired with Giratina to take down Arceus.Thats the thing, Volo couldn't capture and tame Giratina through traditional means so he needed to strike a deal with Giratina. Cynthia, at least in masters canon, is talented enough to catch and raise Giratina through traditional means, which implies a degree of proficiency even above Volo. Not to mention Cynthia's only in her 20s while Volo's likely as old as AZ
>>58738501She's not as bad as Shelly (yet)
>>58743678Giratina, by the time of PM, was still neutered by being defeated by Rei and Dialga+Palkia. At its true strength it's a demi-god that can't even hope to be defeated by any regular pokemon.Also Volo in PLA probably is still in his 20s-40s because why would he still hang out with Cogita after having learned pretty much everything from her? I always got the impression that she accepted him as her student out of either pity, shared ancestry or because she's a cougar but by the time Rei arrived she had no respect left for him.
>>58743709Shitfreak doesnt want to upset feminist so makes childless babes, every non underaged fem gym leader should have had children. The really old ones like Drasna not having grand kids is very bizarre as older gens wouldnt have this feminist me woman so independent mentality.
>>58743709I’m like 99% sure it’s implied he’s also way older than his looks would imply, same as Cogita
>>58743735He implied that he could live for hundreds of years, not that he's actually that old yet.
>>58739900>>58742558I've always considered Lucas to be Cynthia's only real prospect.
>>58738621I would say Riley since he's a chad and an explorer like Cynthia, but Cheryl is built for BRC.
>>58743626>>They are 20 in SuMo because 20th anniversarythat sounds like headcanon
>>58743658>Cynthia’s grandma is a hag? so is Cogitalong lived =/= eternally young looking
>>58743626holy hag
>>58743903Red and Blue are confirmed to be 20 yrs old in Alola in concept art, referring to the games 20th anniversary
>>58744037Forgot to include picrel
>>58744041You dont have to spoonfeed the retard.
Cynthia has turned into Slipstream. this is Slipstream. Slipstream is a robot who is an evil Decepticon. he is from Transformers: Construct-Bots app. he is an OC. he was Cynthia once. he can transform into a truck.
>>58744111IS THIS FROM THE TERALEAK WTF!!
Japan doesn't like hag charactersCynthia will be single forever and keep her marketable
>>58744117This is not from a teraleak. it is from Transformers: Construct-Bots app. What do you think that Cynthia turned into Slipstream?
>>58744128>Cynthia will be singleso is Dianthahaving a kid =/= having a husband
>>58744159Diantha is so unpopular that the idea of her having a kid doesn't affect her already unpopular status unlike Cynthia who'd cause a shitstorm
>>58744159Having a child out of wedlock would tank Diantha's rep even further in japan
>>58739255LMAO!
>>58738816BASEDhttps://files.catbox.moe/9wwn5y.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jzqr48.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/selw2j.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/699tfs.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/sjpru5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/xp3bc1.png
>>58744168what rep lol
>>58744208Nice.
>>58743645I mean, for example, Shadow the Hedgehog. I'm sure you can tell his basic design was "Sonic but even cooler and edgier", right? Still, for some people, Shadow is fucking lame because of how "tryhard" it is. This is the same idea here. Sort of.Everyone's self-insert is different and what they may think is cool or not is different. My self-insert may be the coolest thing ever while I think your self-insert is the lamest shit ever despite you thinking it is the coolest shit ever.You have to yet again look at the message and narrative they're trying to tell you.Does Leon look like an absolute clown to anyone with the most minor fashion sensibilities? Duh. But he's styled as a Sports King. Emphasis on King. That tells you something on how they want you to perceive him, right? He has a Charizardino, the strongest most popular Pokemon ever. He's got a super duper cool pose everyone imitates because it's just that cool. The entire Region kisses the ground he steps on. He's the entire game goal and beginning and end of. His one only real flaw is "he has no sense of direction" which is a typical harmless non-flaw for when you want to make a character seem less perfect except not really and if anything it just adds to the character "quirkiness" so in reality it's a positive character trait. I'm sure you've seen or heard of this sorta thing on mary sues and fanfiction OCs and the like, right?Leon is a perfect as it can be. And the game makes sure to hammer you with that point as much as possible as much as it can.I cannot in good conscience call Cynthia someone's self-insert just because she's got an attractive character design. In that case there's be dozen other characters you could call one too. Leon gives me that impression because of his make and his handled ever seen. It's not just about looks, and like I said, everyone's idealized self and possible self-insert/OC is different from that of the guy next to them.
>>58740548Thats not his point. He's still the only one they allowed to beat Red in any capacity. To reiterate his point (because you didn't understand), they are shilling Leon.
>>58744216Literally no one likes Leon. Women like characters like N or Volo while men prefer Cynthia or the little girls like Lilie.
>>58740556>I am genuinely convinced that Leon is someone high up there in the ladder Self-Insert/OCThats obvious, you do realize Leon is meant to represent the player (us) right? >starts journey at 10>some prodigy kid wearing a hat who wins on their first try>uses a CHARIZARD (their starter)
>>58744224I dislike Leon as much as the guy next to me, but saying he's unpopular is plain disingenuous.Even as Raihan's addon that still puts him on the top percentile of popularity of characters in this franchise and as a solo act he's still pretty middle of the road. I've seen lots of Leon yumejos who commission art of him along their self-inserts.There's actually a lot of people who genuinely love the act the game is tried to sold them about him. Because he's a big brother figure, because he's a responsible adult who doesn't let kids get in danger, people who actually like the entire region sucking his dick because he's just that strong, etc.
>>58744224Leon is not Cynthia popular, but he's pretty popular in his own right for a champion. They wouldn't keep making alts of him if he wasn't.
>>58738816>Strongest of the Str-ACK!!You were sayin'?
>>58744240
>>58744240B-But Cynthia is part of Arc-us' chosen people!
>>58744250>Cynthia is a jewcringe.
>>58744252Chosen People means Hyperboreans (Sinnohans such as Cynthia)
>>58744252>>Cynthia is a jewIts all starting to make sense
>>58744216>He's still the only one they allowed to beat Red in any capacity.the pic in the post you are quoting literally disproves that loland needing arceus buff to beat "base" Red is not very impressive for someone supposed to be getting shilledOn top of that his arc suit wasnt that good, gameplay-wise. Like average
this is cynthia with diantha and ansha
>>58744294Jesus, anon. You're really really dense.You got the thing explained twice and you still didn't get it.You really need to wash your powerscaling brainrotted brain.
>>58744240No one knows who that is. Literally who about to get dumped on by gen 10.Cynthia and Red will always be the strongest NPCs unless they make a new champion and flat out say he/she is the strongest trainer in the world, with 0 ambiguity.
>>58744240>Spin-off with unique mechanicsLiterally doesn't count.
>>58744299You should follow your own advice. You clearly dont play Masters if you think Leon is a priority shill target there nowadays. He doesnt even make top 5 shilling.
>>58744041>>58743903>20That doesn't even make sense, when according to the leaks the time between Gen 4 and 5 was 10 years in itself, meaning just in that time alone Red and Blue would have been 26 when they showed up in B2W2 (3 years between Kanto/Hoenn and Johto/Sinnoh, 10 years between Sinnoh and Unova 1, 2 years between Unova 1 and Unova 2/Kalos + them being 11 back in Kanto), with everything we know, they would be 28 at the least by Alola
>>58744294Can you list the trainers that have beat Red in masters? I'll start you off: Leon. Take your time writing the rest, ill wait.
>>58744309>That doesn't even make sense, when according to the leaks the time between Gen 4 and 5 was 10 years in itself, meaning just in that time alone Red and Blue would have been 26 when they showed up in B2W2 (3 years between Kanto/Hoenn and Johto/Sinnoh, 10 years between Sinnoh and Unova 1, 2 years between Unova 1 and Unova 2/Kalos + them being 11 back in Kanto), with everything we know, they would be 28 at the least by AlolaYeah that why I got confused. It should be more than 10 years between gen 1 and gen 7
>>58738501Made for Lucario bulb.
>>58744306>You clearly dont play Masters if you think Leon is a priority shill target there nowadays. He doesnt even make top 5 shilling.#1 shilling in Masters is Unova lol#2 is Red for anniversariesAfter that its some combo of Cynthia, Steven, N, Marnie, Blue etc. And some of those just had shitty freebie units.Lillie used to be there, but then they kinda slowed with her.And only after that probably Leon.
>>58744240she may be the strongest, but she's still a retard that signs random shit without reading
>>58744306>You clearly dont play MastersBeen playing it for far longer than you, I bet.>if you think Leon is a priority shill target there nowadays. He doesnt even make top 5 shilling.You CONTINUE to keep missing the point.You seriously are dense, anon-kun.
>>58744353I'd hope no one is that retarded, surely he's just being disingenuous.
>>58744683>You CONTINUE to keep missing the point.You dont have any point, you just keep arguing for no reason. And samefagging >>58744683
>>58744309In the words of Masuda>don’t think too hard about it just roll with it bro lol
>>58739255I'm glad she focused on her career.
>>58745131I keep forgetting shes an archeologist. Having a family as having a career as a woman should not be incompatible though, but I guess japanese people are specially weird about it
>>58738621Lucian
>>58738578Best post on vp rn
>>58744310Did you intentionally forget when Lillie beat him or are you just stupid?
>>58746329probably gay too
>>58745001Do you agree with Masuda anons?
>>58744240new strongest blonde
>>58738663He'll fill her dark hole instead
>>58747916thats not a blonde + a literal who
>>58748001Yikes Cynthia lost to a literal who
>>58744240>space shared between two peoplelollmao even
>>58748001>thats not a blonde>I never played the games
>>58740292Bruh. You are right
>>58738501But she already has a ton of them
>>58744208Red has an adult design in SM, you people should use it instead of shotashit
>>58738510>japanese woman over 25It's over
>>58744297>my sonIf this was accurate it would be 'my wife's son'
>>58738501She is lesbian.
>>58738501Cynthia won't get any "fun" with anyone any soon because GF is aware of her popularity, and all the people simping for her. They know that if she ever got a canon mate (male or female), a lot of people is going to have a meltdown if they cant project on them, just like in idol culture. Thats the reason Diantha got allowed a daughter. No one cared about her.
>>58750195no fuck you YOUR lesbian
>>58750391I would watch this spin-off gaiden
>>58739255English Third Language?
>>58750763English is a lame language anyways
>>58738501Cynthia can't have kids because xhe's trans
>>58738501Red, Blue, Lance, Steven, Wallace, Iris, Leon and Geeta also didn't get any kids as far as I know. Kukui is married but I don't think he has any kids yet.Diantha and Alder seems to be the only exceptions, last case being a little weird because I recall there was a scene in the anime where Alder tries to hit on Cynthia
>>58738501Never.
>>58738501What do you guys think of the trope of the conveniently attractive woman that is as unsuccessful in her love life as the average male?
>>58753503>unsuccessful in her love life? she has orgies in Undella with all the hottest Unova women...as for love - she is married to the job and her passions and her Lucario
>>58753520I was speaking about the trope itself, not if Cynthia has an active love life or not
>>58752318uhh I mean in the anime Kukui literally has a baby
>>58754715I don't watch the anime
Cynthia dodged a bullet
>>58753503Did you mean conventionally? As with most tropes, it's all in the execution. It can work, but it's an easy one to do wrong.
>>58753503They do it well with Cynthia
>>58753520>she has orgies in Undella with all the hottest Unova women.../vp/cucks dont even get to watch
>>58754919they're clearly fantasizing about it though
>>58738501Alder's still dtf
>>58738733Alder is a grandpa so what does he care about sex anymore?
>>58755526in the ashnime he did
>>58755566And got rejected by Cynthia.
>>58757340Well Cynthia isn't rich, so I cant blame her for being a jew
Cynthia mogs the entirety of kalos, much less diantha
>>58744208Artist name?
They have some real schizos that hate Cynthia
>>58744240I can't believe Cynthia got mogged ber her...
>>58753520It's true
>>58757395Only girls allowed. You get your balls kicked and kicked out if you are male and in the mansion during the party.
>>58757415perfect for cuck Steven
>>58754919>>58754923because these are lesbian orgies and there are no girls on /vp/
>>58757395Perfect. Please post more like these!>pixiv without caption
Is this the only current Cynthia/Shirona focused thread?
>>58757395nice
>>58738628incels wet dream
>>58744208red self inserters are pathetic
>>58757356Kalos even tried to make its own Cynthia and this clown is the best they could come up with
>>58744208damn, I would even self-insert as R*d for this...
>>58757385Just wait for her next appearance, she'll reclaim her spot.
>>58757385>>58757356
>>58757385Cynthia is still hotter tho
>>58758675and strongerand a champion instead of a literal whoand blonde
>>58758687>faggot detectednice try, Cynthia is 100x hotter
Need a Pokegoddess thread soon
>>58758701make one
>>58744208The world needs more RedxCynthia porn
>>58738510Teraleak says she was 28 in DPPt, which takes place at the same time as GSC/HGSS. So that was 1999, and she’d be 48 as of ZA (3 years after SM, which is 17 years after GS). It’s time to accept that it’s over, anon.
>>58759307She's immortal like Cogita/Volo.
>>58759307Wally appears in Sun Moon and is still visibly the same size and age as he was in his previous appearance in ORAS and RSE. I'll grant you that he could have aged a few years and still just look young, but not many. RSE takes place at the same time as FR/LG. Red is a preteen at this time. Yet, we see him and Blue as young adults in Sun and Moon.Time progression and characters' ages are inconsistent and not chronologically possible in this series. Cynthia can still be 28 while other characters age 10+ years around her. With all that having been said, if they reintroduced Cynthia as a 50+yo hag with graying hair and wrinkles, I think I'd still love her.
>>58759307You say it like if people wouldn't become ravenous beasts if Cynthia appeared in Gen 10 game going "ara ara you wouldn't want a 50 years old woman like me would you" while still looking as youthful as Lusamine and wearing something summery since it's some meme islands again.
>>58759342>gamefreak made up an entire clan of special snowflake hyperboreans just so they could justify keeping Cynthia young foreverBased?
>>58758701>>58758714>>>58758777 trips
>>58759342Are Volo and Cogita ergo sum still around in present day? I didnt play PLA
>>58738501what could have been
>>58760711Volo is, yeahPLZA teased it
