Most of these Poison specialists could pass as Dark-type users. What's Poison's distinct identity supposed to be?
>>58751563Easy, poison type has more tranny trainers than dark does.
Nothing really screams Dark about these characters except maybe Corbeau, and even then he's very slimy so being Poison fits>Ninja trickery but not underhanded techniques>Rock and Pop musicians>Whatever the fuck Plumeria isIf you look at actual Dark type trainers, they LACK identity significantly more than Poison. Karen and Nanu don't really feel like they particularly represent the "Evil" type. Giacomo is a bit random since Team Star really doesn't have a coherent theme due to them all being outcasts. The best examples are Sidney, Grimsley and Piers who are much seedier individuals and better represent Dark than any of the Poison trainers you listed do
>>58751563Toxic personalities
>>58751583Melli and Klara are just Toxic persons, so they fit perfectly.
>>58751583>Nanuwho the fuck is nanu
>>58753318Nanu your business
>>58751563You're an idiot.
>>58753318One of the best SM characters
>>58751583Plumeria is a street thug and rock and pop doesn't exactly scream poison. Roxie is punkish so she could pass and Klara fits her type because of her personality as opposed to concept.
>>58751563Poison is about underhanded tacticsDark is just evil
>>58751563Evil type before an actual evil type was created.
>>58753338Roxie, Ryuki and Piers show hard music doesn't really need to abide by any identity, it's the personality behind the music that gives it sound. Roxie's is explosive like Koffing, Ryuki's is passionate like dragons and Piers is a dark, gritty alley thug. Klara's personality could only leave her a Poison type though, girl was crafted during peak menhera craze when Riamu Yumemi was revealed and Needy Streamer Overdose began development
>>58753340ah yes underhanded tactics such as>poisoning the foe>...poisoning the foe
>>58753391I know it is meaningless now that every pokemon has the same moveset but Poison types used to be all about longevity and inflicting negative status.
>>58753425That's mainly from Game Freak downplaying the effects of Status to begin with. Nowadays having a status at all is kind of useful due to being unable to be afflicted with possibly more debilitating status>Poison is easily the worst status in the game, it should've been merged with Toxic decades ago>Burn chip damage literally doesn't matter, it's only significant because of the Attack drop outside of Guts>Paralysis is still very good outside of Guts>Sleep is still VERY good>Freeze is a worse sleep due to the rarer proc and unthawing being random instead of a set turn variablePoison can only inflict like 3 (4 counting Toxic) of these status and if you Poison someone normally, you've effectively lost the ability to ACTUALLY cripple your opponent
>>58753461I don't really care about competitive viability but status like Confusion and Poison were clearly designed to be used on the Player, not by them.
>>58753496Confusion isn't half bad either but it mainly stems from the fact it's one of the statuses that can overlap with the main status. If you could multi-status people like Sleep/Paralysis or Toxic/Burn then I think discussion would be completely different regarding status altogether
>>58753387uuuhhhhhh.... SEEEEXXX???!!!!!!!
>>58751563Miriam should have been a poison specialist
>>58753620Is she not? Her ace is Toxapex
>>58751563I could see the argument for koga/janine but they're poison because dark didn't exist in gen 1
>>58751563>KogaDark didn’t exist yet, and poison seems like something a ninja would use. His gym is the only one to effectively use the poison walking damage gimmick with all the ninja tricks like ninja transformations/ disguises and a hidden wall maze.>JanineKoga 2.0 since she’s the original give the old character a child in the sequel baby>RoxieUnova didn’t have a poison user in the first go around, and they need someone to use the venipede line as an ace. Also wanted to show off the new gym song gimmick in a fun way.>PlumeriaWalking salazzle expy but more tame with team skull grunts being her salandit. Exists because they needed a poison specialist. The plant she’s named after/ has her hair colored after is popular with tourists/ landscapers, so it’s advertised all over Hawaii. It also has poisonous sap, which is one of those fun facts that gets regularly brought up about it.>KlaraToxic personality I guess. She’s the first one who’s just a bad person. They also needed her to share g-slowpokes typing with Avery. In game, she picked the type because it was unpopular/ nobody was specializing in poison types, so she thought it’d be easy to scoop the poison gym leader spot. Her name in Japanese is sophora, which is another poisonous plant. Weirdly, means that she and Sophocles share a name origin.Koga and Janine by extension had a gimmick, but it seems like poison specialists are kind of leftovers from then until maybe Corbeau
>>58753757It's weird that they didn't fix this with Janine, then. They had the perfect opportunity there.
>>58753988there was an opportunity but they wanted her to take after/follow in the footsteps of her father
>>58751563Poison was the original Evil Type before the actual Evil Type came into being.
>>58754018Poison mons in Kanto have no evil dex entried
>>58751563Dark seems more crime related>KarenGeneric woman>SydneyA punk/ yakuza>Cyrus I guess lmaoHe’s baddy bad so give him bad pokemon>GrimsleyRich heir/ gambler>Lysandre I guess lmaoHe’s baddy bad so give him bad pokemon>NanuCorrupt cop>Grimsley 2Now broke gambler. Homeless American man living on a Hawaiian beach so he doesn’t freeze to death in the winter. Marshall probably gave him a one way ticket there after he went broke and started asking the other elite four members for cash.>Piers/ MarnieLeader of the poor people/ football hooligans/ punk rockers. Basically every low class British stereotype>GiacomoEveryone in team star is a delinquent kid
>>58751563Its distinct identity was taking poison damage when you walked and having a screen effect and noise play. Now it has nothing.
>>58753979Didn't really explain how these characters reflect their type, just why they do.
>>58753387I don't know what any of that japslop means
>>58751563But Dark type specialists are all shady to some degree. The closest to that there is Klara, who is a toxic bitch. Poison is for ninjas and gang like people.
>>58753387>>58753461>>58753496>>58753521i have HB fatigue
