Why is it not acceptable to call Pokémon by their Japanese names?
>>58754071Lizardon is an ugly shitmon Getting favoritism doesn't make it less of an ugly shitmon as well
>>58754071Lizardon sounds retarded
>>58754071>Why is [headcanon]?
>>58754071Sounds very gay.
>>58754071Lizardon is iconic and makes latinx seethe
>>58754071Cause no one knows the names. Also a lot of them sound fucking retarded. I'm not gonna call Moltres "Fire", and I will laugh at you if you do.
>Lizardon>Fushigibana>Kamex
>>58754071Charizard is an objectively far superior name to Lizardon, for starters
>>58754107I think Glurak (German) is cooler
Gourton >>>>> LechonkStrinder >>>>> Toxtricitytheres a few other jp names i personally prefer because i think they sound cool but these ones i prefer just because i fucking hate their english names
>>58754170For me it's Sazandora
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>>58754106I went all 28 years of my life not know that was Venusaur's Japanese name until I saw this post, yet I knew Lizardon and Kamex
>>58754106>LIZARDON (lizard + don aka tooth)>KAMEX (like Kamek but with an X cus he's XTREME)>.......... fujibananaThank you bulbasaurfags for getting the names localized.
>>58754071Who the fuck wants to learn the names of over a thousand fictional creatures in a different language to appease some shitass weeaboo who pretends to be Japanese?
>>58754071You will never be japanese
>>58754094>Freezeruno>Thunderdos>Firetres
>>58754071I only knowFushigidaneFushisouFushigibanaHitokageLizardoLizardonZenigameKamile (is a man name!)Kamexand the Eevee
>>58754181the english names for this line are great though, incorporating german numbers that both count their heads and reference the fact that they were originally designed after panzers
>>58754284>shits in your path and max airstreams your house
>>58754284>>58754312Forgot pic but you already guessed it
>>58754071You can do it, but don’t be surprised when you talk about how you’re tired of seeing Isitsubute in every game and no one knows what you’re talking about. Only reason people here know and accept human Japanese names is because of waifufags and anime watchers.
>>58754071Do you call a cat a neko in everyday English conversation?
>>58754289It's just Freezer, Thunder and Fire.
>>58754071i love blacky
>>58754387>blacky>evil typeWhat did GF mean by this?
>>58754170You learned nothing from that other thread it seems. Shame.
I just want to know why they haven't localized more names. Spanish for example. Why do they get stuck with english names?
>>58754426Too expensive, please understand.
>>58754426Marketing reasons.Digimon in Latin America, for example, was a translation from the original Japanese without censorship. However, Bandai of USA told the dub people to please keep the same Digimon and character names as the ones used in English, so that products can be exported with little issue and merchandise is not a hassle.
>>58754071cuz then I'd have to memorize another 1000 names
>>58754071>Japanese name for Charizard is just two English words.If Lizardon was its English name weebs would think Charizard was better.
>>58754312Apparently also pretends revenge fantasies like a little bitch
>>58754354Do you not?
>>58754554It was an internet joke about Gyarados anon. You'll be okay just breathe.
I want to be the bestthere ever was.To beat all the rest, yeah, that's my cause.Marumine, Digda, Nidoran, Mankey,Fushigibana, Koratta, Onidrill, Poppo,Azumao, Thunders, Kairyu, Ghos,Ponyta, Showers, Nyorobon, Butterfree
>>58754575You talk like a child.
>>58754542But I do think Charizard is better and that's its English name?
>>58754592Have to keep it simple for you.
Blacky!
>>58754071Because Pokemon doesn't have the issue of being schizo with names like Digimon. They localize the name and stick with it. As such, the only excuse for using their Japanese name on an English forum is being a weeb. YWNBAJ
Handsome >>>>>>> LookerAnd don't @me, I'm muting this chat.
>>58754071Because it makes you sound like this
>>58754585Catch 'em, catch 'em, gotta catch 'em all,Pokemon!I'll search across the land,look far and wide.Release from my handthe power that's inside.Morphon, Nyoromo, Nidorino, GolduckFushigisou, Betobeta, Utsubot, FireNidoking, Monjera, Casey, PurinKingler, Sihorn, Pixy, Pukurin
>>58754071The same reason why you dont say the japanese names of animals. Also, for the sake of clear communication.
what Japanese names would have fit in English? For instance, Goriander is Rillaboom in Japanese and its portmanteau of Gorilla and Coriander. Theres also Calamanero (Malamar) which is calamari plus nero (squid and black in italian)
>>58754071Miscommunication.It's better to call them by their localized names when you're in the appropriate location.
>>58755031There are already plenty of Pokemon that share the same name in both Japanese and English. Caterpie, Butterfree, Pikachu, Gyarados, Gengar, Unown,Togepi, Zangoose, Lucario, Rotom, Musharna, Zoroark, Floette, Mimikyu, most legendaries and mythicals just to name a few off the top of my head.
>>58755064Also it make you sounds pretentious, just like that Mystery Dungeon Doujinshi scanlation (and it ain't hentai).
>>58754684>Showers>Thunders>Booster>Eifie>BrackyIt took until gen 4 for Eeveelutions to get Japanese names that would not look dumb in English
>>58754653>heehee I was merely pretendingwhen has this ever worked?
>>58755074Okay but like, asides from those ones I mean.
>>58754183>>58754684>>58755085
>>58754071Recently I've begun thinking that human characters in Pokemon having their names changed to "western" ones in translation feels like a pretty outdated/questionable localization practice these days, but I don't have a problem with the actual Pokemon's names being changed. Like other anons have said, they're species names so it's no different than animals being called different things in different languages, and the species names differing in other languages is something that's even canon in the game text I think, so whatever.I think the reason it feels more annoying to go out of your way to call every mon by its Japanese name on an English site is that the Japanese names of the human characters are probably a bit better known, but with 1000+ Pokemon sometimes it's legitimately not clear what the fuck is being referred to if you just throw out a bunch of random Japanese mon names with no context. And I say this even as someone who's interested in the original Japanese game text and comparing it to the translations.
>>58756193not to mention that something like 95% of the localized pokemon names are actually GOOD unlike anything else in pokemon.
>>58754084As an EU localisation fag, I think a lot of English pokemon names sound like shit as well.Relaxo > SnorlaxSo I can understand why OP might prefer using the original names instead of the localised burger names.Also Arseus > Arkeus
>>58754149Agreed, some of the German names are cooler than the English ones.Some of the French ones as well.Certain English names are just utter garbage, such as Blastoise (based on tortoise, pronounced tor-tiss, so Blas-tiss?)..
>>58756252>Relaxo > Snorlaxyou fags are so tasteless it hurts. That sounds like an off-brand la-z-boy.
>>58754354Cats arent inherently Japanese creatures though.
>>58754585Hello Kids!Have you also caught a lot of Pokémon?I challenge you who got a hundred and fifty-one Pokémon,as well as you who haven't yet,(Can you say Pokémon?) I challenge you!How's your mouth rolling today!Pikachu, Dragonite, Slowbro, Pidgeotto,Psyduck, Rattata, Zubat, Rapidash,Jolteon, Tentacool,Seel, Cubone, Exeggcute, Marowak,Bulbasaur!
>>58756193I think a big reason Pokemon refuses to adopt industry standards, and the reason we don't have official subs for the Japanese anime are the localized names. "Charizard" started out as just being this great localized name for the species, but its become a brand into itself. The machine is too powerful to course correct. Introducing two different names for these million-dollar characters would just create confusion. Having two names in one market makes it harder to search on Amazon, harder for SEO. Even for the adult fans, it can create an emotional split. I had that experience when I imported BW, I loved "Kibago" and "Mijumaru", but it took me a while to warm to their localized names. "Axew" merch just didn't hit the same at first.Pokemon is hyper focused on brand image and maintaining that image. It doesn't take place on Earth, Kanto isn't Japan, it's just "this world" or "the world of Pokemon". A lot of anime, especially during this third/fourth wave of international otaku, lean in to their Japanese roots, even if the stories don't take place in Japan. Characters having Japanese names used to be a problem to be solved, but now it's part of their branding. Pokemon is a different beast. It's inherently globalized, and draws on lots of different real world cultures, but never explicitly so. Having the human cast keep their Japanese names could be confusing, and it would rob international audiences of names that communicate who they are, much like "Hitokage" would. If the series returns to Japan, then it might give them an opportunity to experiment with a more Japanese-flavoured international branding, but it would still be different between markets. What plays well to American weebs might not play so well to Chinese fans. GF is attune to avoiding cultural sensitivities, and they already saw some blowback from Chinese fans over the Ruins. Korea could pose a similar issue, a lot of Japanese brands imported to Korea cut overtly Japanese content or themes
>>58754684*Bracky
>>58756295>If the series returns to Japan, then it might give them an opportunity to experiment with a more Japanese-flavoured international branding, but it would still be different between markets.Hisui and Kitakami?
>>58756319Both were supplementary, not the main pillars for the brand. They introduced a small number of Pokemon, nearly all of which were part of existing families. The cast of characters from Hisui were never meant to headline the anime, and most of them could be marketed the same way regional forms are marketed. Kieran and Carmine were exchange students, and the second half their story takes place in Unova.There's a difference between side content that indulges in Japanese culture and aesthetics, versus having that be the brand for 2-3 years. Having it shape the anime, the card game, the thematic inspiration for your starters, legends, and merchandise-drivers. Although you're correct in a sense, I do think those games show a desire from GF to return to a Japanese setting. It's just taking a backseat to all these other plans and projects. If Gen 10 is meant to be aspirational ("the sky is the limit"/"sail to the edge of the earth"), perhaps we'll see Gen 11 build on those advances and apply them to the series' roots and foundation. Kind of like how ZA zooms in on a single city rather than trying to one-up SV with a bigger open world.
>>58756193Pokemon is one of the few IP thats world canonically has multiple real world languages in it. Basically every other IP has only the "main" language, has multiple languages but "translates for the audience", or the extra languages are fictional.
I'm okay with calling the monster by their JP names, Chinese and Vietnamese names on the other hand...
>>58754421There was nothing to learn.
>>58754183Everyone’s favorite eeveelution by the numbers btw.
French>German=English>Japanese
chef's kiss
>>58756802Pokemon does translate for the audience unless you want to argue that the people in Paldea, Kalos and Unova all speak Japanese to each other.
>>58757097>Pokemon does translate for the audienceIt does but the other languages are there and can be... read there's no voice acting. But still, it doesnt just go>yeah these guys are speaking French and these guys are speaking Spanish but we translated everything to English for you :)
>>58756959>Vietnameselol i didnt know there were other asian names outside nip, gook and chink
>>58756258>Some of the French ones as wellall gen1 and 2 french names are the best fuck off
>>58756265You are mistaking "Japanese" with "feminine"
>>58757097Unova and Paldea canonically speak the same language.
>>58757262charmeleonbros...are we incels?
>>58754106its fushigidane, retard
>>58757999>he doesn't know
>>58757740and the Orre region too
>>58755085fuck youShowers is an awesome name. I do like Vaporeon too.
>>58758057listen here jibacoil
>In a world where all the Pokemon had their Japanese names in the west>"Oh I have a box with 10 Thunders">"The bird or the eeveelution?"
>>58758255>The Eiebuilution, stupid! Pokemon names aren't pluralized!
>>58758255If you like showers so much maybe you should take one.
>>58754071bc most of there names are stupid
If the name sounds cooler in original Japanese, I use it.
Half of the Kanto names are literally generic RPG enemy namesSeveral of them are just stupid and confusing in English (the fact that there's one Pokemon called Thunders and another called Thunder for instance).
>>58756193The new Inazuma Eleven game allows you to pick between the old hyperlocalized-for-little-timmy burger names and the original Japanese names all the older animefags are familiar with.Pokemon should really consider the same.
