"My name is Cyrus. I hate a lot of things, and I don't particularly like anything. What I have is not a dream, because I will make it a reality. I'm going to restart the universe and become god"
>>58756801>I hate a lot of things, and I don't particularly like anything.being a god sounds like an absolute slog for you then buddy.
>>58756801cyrus didn't say this
>>58756801Cynthias boytoy and 'fix him' project
>>58756801Strong candidate for worst villain in a mainline game.
>>58756818maxie archie lysandre rose existalso the gen 2 TR retardsCyrus was autism kino
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>>58756818Imagine having such a braindead opinion and then post it. Cyrus is great and literally weaponized autism embodied.
>>58756818He at least had the most threatening presence, for what it's worth.
>>58756818Not even bottom 3
>>58756801Why do people like him again?
>>58757456They were children when they played his games
>>58757456Autistic resonance, imposing, not a fraud, almost won in Platinum
>>58756801Cyrus the GOAT
>>58756858Yes, I already said worst. No need to convince me again.
>>58756801Cyrus was Trump all along
>>58757456I like how he's actually absurdly young compared to his design.
27 years old btw
>>58756818Rose exists, unfortunately.
>>58756818>kalostranny cant go one thread without sperging about kinnohGo back to your ZA threads
>>58757479Cyrus is really just Rowan but evil
>>58756811It worked for Hashem
>>58756801This is the intro to his CW show
>>58757456Straightforward plan, no dumb filler like grunts stealing what is so obviously a dragonite skull.
>>58756818At first glance this seems correct but the thing is Pokemon villains are SO bad that when you actually analyze them critically Cyrus is actually relatively pretty good. I mean who is his completion? Maxie and Archie are brain dead. Lysandre is as well and Rose is somehow even worse than all of them. At the very worst he is middle of the road.
>>58759670>Maxie and Archie are brain deadso is cyrus
>>58759830Elaborate
>>58759830yes but compared to maxie and archie he was less brain dead. You see, if cyrus had won he would have been able to basically just create a new universe and keep it in balance. There was not necessarily a key thing that he was forgetting in his plan. He knew the risks and took them anyways because he evil. Whereas Archie and Maxie were retarded and could not conceive of of the obvious ecological disasters that their respective plans would cause. The differences is that Cyrus seemed to understand the consequences and Archie and Maxie did not even though they were obvious. That is why he is better.
Sinnoh babies get triggered way too easily.
>>58759830Cyrus’ plan actually makes sense for his goal, though. There’s no scene he regrets what he does, you simply stop him from accomplishing what he wanted (and in platinum you abandon him to a realm that is, in effect, what he wanted, in an act of poetic justice). Maxie and Archer, meanwhile, are dumbfounded when their plan turns out exactly how it obviously would.
>>58760330>Make criticism>”You’re wrong for reasons XYZ”>Triggered much?This has always been a braindead way to behave. Stand on what was said or otherwise admit you have no argument. We’re not even discussing objective matters here, but if you can’t substantiate your opinion when opposing points are brought up then there clearly there was little basis for it to begin with
>>58759945>You see, if cyrus had won he would have been able to basically just create a new universe and keep it in balancewhat balance? He basically just wants to kill everyone except himself. His plan is just an even more retarded version of Lysandre's.>>58760506>Cyrus’ plan actually makes sense for his goal,so do archie and maxie's
>>58760515>>”You’re wrong for reasons XYZ”never happened btw
>>58760858I do not understand what is so hard to understand about this. Archie and Maxie are self righteous and think their cause will benefit the world. However they are brain dead retarded by not being able to see the environmental disasters behind their plans. Cyrus is under no illusion that he is really helping anyone. He just wants to play God. There is nothing inherently contradictory or dumb about that, just evilAs for Lysandre he is strange. He doesn't want to create a new world like Cyrus does he just wants to destroy non-beautiful shit whatever that means and he thinks that he is somehow morally correct in this. And it doesn't seem like he considered the aftermath of the ultimate weapon at all.
>>58760894>Archie and Maxie are self righteous and think their cause will benefit the world. However they are brain dead retarded by not being able to see the environmental disasters behind their plansThey had no way of predicting that Groudon and Kyogre would be uncontrollable with the orbs.>Cyrus is under no illusion that he is really helping anyoneYes he is. His whole motivation is that he's a retard who thinks the world isn't peaceful so he's helping it by getting rid of everyone else.>And it doesn't seem like he considered the aftermath of the ultimate weapon at allExcept he did.
>cyrus is a good character because I grew up with the game he exists in and I inserted fanfics about himah the same schizos as the cynthia crowd I see
>>58756818Ragebait reeeee
But could Cyrus defeat Sasuke?
>>58756818This.He's basically just Lysandre but without the benefit of all the extra development Lysandre got in Z-A.Only reason retards pretend otherwise is because he exists in gen 4 and gen 4 is le heckin peak of the series that did nothing wrong because I played it as a child.
>>58760920>gen 4 is le heckin peak of the series that did nothing wrongThis
>>58760900>They had no way of predicting that Groudon and Kyogre would be uncontrollable with the orbs.That doesn't play into it at all. Even if the orbs worked they would have straight up irreversibly destroyed numerous ecosystem killed many pokemon>Yes he is. His whole motivation is that he's a retard who thinks the world isn't peaceful so he's helping it by getting rid of everyone else.It comes from a place of resentment not some kind of justice. But even if you are granted that point, it doesn't actually matter because if he had succeeded he still would have been able to achieve his goal without any nasty side affects he didn't consider which is more than you can say for the others.>Except he did.I am pretty sure that creating an apocalyptic wasteland was not his intention. That is the exact opposite of the beauty he was going for. his entire ideology is so contrived and half-baked. At least with Cyrus it is pretty simple. Incel wanting to play god.>>58760905i actually think Cyrus is also a bad character, what I am trying to say is that for a pokemon character, specially, a franchise with some of the worst written characters in popular games, Cyrus is relatively better than the absolute piles of shit many of the other villains are. He is C to B- among the slate of pokemon villains, As a character by himself is still F.
>>58760920Lysandre has always had more background than other villains. His and AZ's family being central to history in XY and ZA. Like does Arcrus ever explain how the "Galaxy Expedition" devolved into the Team Galactic cult?
>>58760858>so do archie and maxie'sHow so? You haven’t explained your position. >>58760862Others have explained their position, such as >>58760506
>>58759931>>58761038sup sagie
I like Cyrus. He’s just a guy who became so mindbroken from being outcasted and also potentially abused that he became a villain. And his goals were extremely ambitious, and like a true villain they only truly benefited him. Nowadays if Gen 4 came out there would be some truth to his ways, like how the pokemon world is corrupt in some way and he’s right in a way. Back in 2006/2008 Cynthia and her grandmother rightfully called him foolish and crazy, but he still makes sense to feel that way.
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>>58761101>itoddler filenameYou’re not fooling anyone, sagie.
I was replaying Platinum recently and got to the part where you fight Cyrus in the Celestic ruins, and when he argued with the elder about whether there was anything wrong with the world or not I couldn’t help but side with him somewhat.There absolutely is things wrong with the world, you can’t just turn a blind eye and say everything’s perfectly fine.>>58756801>What I have is not a dream, because I will make it a reality.This line goes so hard
>>58760920>He's basically just LysandreI started appreciating Lysandre on a second XY playthrough, unlike you secondaries that needed Z-A to give him the most generic villain development of all.>I have...REGRETS now....Z-A doesn't even add anything to the character, you should have known everything from what XY states. Just proving you don't have the reading comprehension to criticize Cyrus or Lysandre.
>>58761105I don’t use this website enough to know what it is that you’re getting at
>>58761157He's just a sharteen pretending to be yawnfag just ignore it.
>>58756801The best villain
>>58757494>narcissist >lies to his followers>actively works towards destroying the worldYou arent wrong
