Why is one game considered great and the other one considered shit?
both are garbage with lack of content, no idea how they made it, even smaller games have more stuff to doPLA; shitty empty overworld, no dlc trainer battles, only few destructible stuff PZA; battling is garbage, your pokemon moves randomly, react time is random, destructible stuff is a fucking joke, zero in game content
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>>58765084>no dlc trainer battlesYour Daybreak update?
>>58765070PLA>Game is a tech demo>Setting is goodZA >the story is worse than SV>the new characters sucks ass>the game has no content, the dlc is just padding for the sake of it instead of a new locale>the new Korrina's redesign suck ass
>the new characters sucks assExcept one....
>>58765070left> gave the new starters regional replacements and gave the native starters jack shit. >gave goodra a shitty diaper and gardenia a beard >no pvpRight >gave the new and native starters mega, the most coveted and respected form of shilling in Pokemon forever marking them as icons >has PvP That’s why
>>58765070Left was first and despite its flaws, tried to do something new. Right is just more of the same and didn't do enough to build on what PLA created.
>>58765070one is a pokemon game in a cool setting and a unique direction, the other is trying too hard to be a shitty knockoff xenoblade
honestly, za is first game that gave me pokemon fatigue, battle system is beyond trash, I have 107 hours put into it including dlc and I don't feel like I want play this game anymore anytime soon, battle system plus grind are awful, it's a total garbage, half of the time pokemon don't attack or they can't hit the item or opponent because of bush or bench
Takes place in Sinnoh, a good regionTakes place in Kalos, a shit regionIt's not that hard to figure out
>>58765070PLAss by all means should've been the better game, they had plenty of rich concepts and high potential to work with basing it in old Sinnoh; but since Shart Freak are incompetent and also just hate Sinnoh, they created one of the most horrific humiliation rituals in the series' history. ZA despite being slop can still be fun if you don't take it seriously thanks to the new Megas and characters.
>>58765070ZA loves to aggressively waste your time and it's apparent in the DLC. Tons of text, tons of cutscenes for everything (making a donut, fucking GOING INTO A HOLE, retarded special scans), quests where you have no idea what you're walking into until you spend a donut and you get shitty cosmetics as a reward.It's just so weird because ZA is grindy, which I'm fine with, but it's grindy in a way that it doesn't want you to grind. Everything is so tedious and out of the way, it makes no sense.
>>58765070plass and zass are both feces
>>58765084fpbp /thread
>>58765106I want to put her under new management...
>>58765070>Kinnoh is SOVL>Kaloss is soullessShrimple as
>>58765070Arceus has a novel premise as a distant prequel and the innovation of catching pokemon in real time was not only better executed but paves a path forward for future installments. ZA is worse at being a sequel than BW2 and not only were real time battles horribly half assed but realistically won't ever return again unless gamefreak has the balls to pull a square Enix and get rid of turn based altogether, which I imagine will be a far more divisive change than real time catching
>>58765070Legends Arceus is a half baked game but everything that is there is good. It leaves you optimistic to see the Legends series give it another go that's more realized.And then they decided to throw it all away and get even lazier
>>58765413Best way to put it is>arceus took a step forward and a step back>ZA took a step sideways and then several steps back
Honestly ZA is only considered shit because it is profitable for reaction videos to push it as such. the overall level of quality hasn't changed. ZA is a very streamlined experience because it wants to put you into as many pokemon battles as possible. After Arceus downplayed the battles to a foot note, ZA feeds you battle after battle until you choke. Unfortunately its still a pokemon game, so if you don't embrace it, there isn't anything stopping you from power leveling a pokemon to 80 and rolling the entire campaign and most of the post game.
>>58765466I honestly have no idea what game the most deranged Z-A haters are playing because the only complaints I've seen from them are textures and water. Everything else is either subjective as hell or just hatred of the franchise in general.
>>58765466ZA had so little faith in people enjoying the battle system that you can lose the penultimate battle in the story and still progress...
>>58765466>ZA feeds you battle after battle until you choke.>Unfortunately its still a pokemon game, so if you don't embrace it, there isn't anything stopping you from power leveling a pokemon to 80 and rolling the entire campaign and most of the post game.If a game makes battling the core focus but puts places no effort into actually balancing it to offer a meaningful challenge then it has nothing to offer, unlike other pokemon games which can be braindead easy but offer other forms of engagement
>>58765536It has offer the same as PLA. Shiny alpha hunting. But in ZA you can actually use your mons in PvP too.
>People are finally waking up to plass being the worst pokemon game ever madethe world is healing
PLA is a great Pokemon game.PLZA is a disappointing Pokemon game (with some cool Megas)
>>58765550>>PeopleThe majority of veepee posters barely qualify as "people"
>>58765554> PLA is a great Pokemon game.lmao you need to actively hate pokemon to enjoy PLASS
>>58765598What kinda mental illness do you have to have to make falseflag posts like this?
>>58765532Honestly I think that was deliberate. I think they wanted to make that battle unwinnable and somebody chickened out at the last second. which is why we have the halfassed taunie steals floette anyway scene. ZA has a ton of faith in its battle system, probably too much. Sidequests usually reward you with TMs or Battle items, Most of the research rewards are Iconic TMs, Grinding the Infinite Royal rewards you with A rematch fight with any of the Signature teams you faced over the course of the story. The only other item the game gives you is clothes. And few customization unlocks are not particularly telegraphed. >>58765536Oh, it has a meaningful challenge. but it gives casual fans an easy way out. You can always overlevel and trivialize fights. but that's no different then any other pokemon game. It doesn't compromise the powerfantasy. If you want a challenge just use pokemon that are under or equal to the level of the plot. The EXP candy means you can rebuild a perfect team for the scenario and get the exact experience you want.
>>58765598Since your not going to play either I don't see a point of the discussion. but Arceus is decent. The plot is a bit predictable, the framerate kinda sucks, limited inventory and crafting systems are beyond dogshit. But running around, sneaking up and catching pokemon. dodging wild pokemon attacks, its all fun. In some ways combat is a lot harder then ZA, because if you get stuck into a battle against multiple pokemon, you have no choice but to take hits until your turn rolls around. In ZA you can at least fight back groups with wide area moves.
>>58765070because fuck Kalos
ZA is a compromise. It's an ok game, but doesn't really do anything standout because it's too busy trying to "correct the problems" that PLA didn't have instead of building upon the strengths that were already there. It's a service game that'll be moved on from and forgotten and really has no point to existing since it's not really doing anything better than either PLA or the mainline games (other than character writing, which sure it can have but is still worse at than just about every other j/RPG out there).Its legacy will unironically be memes and porn when it only ever gets brought up to make fun of the toilet or Emma's ass
>Dude watch bidoof use tackle 40 times>Throw cocaine bags at pokemon as "boss fights">Memberberries cast of characterPLA is garbage
>>58765070Both are fucking shit. I'd rather be raped a million times than play either one.
It still has the same problem of everything being aggressive regardless of your pokemon's levels. Tell me why a level 2 bunnelby is attacking me when I have a level 100 Salamence on the field. It's not as bad in ZA since most of lumiose is safe outside of the wild zones, but the city is so fucking boring that it doesn't matter. Then in PLA where the world (while empty) is at least okay to look at and explore, I can't because beautifly keep blasting me.>other games have aggressive low level enemiesNot all of them, or you're not likely to go back to those low level zones, unlike in Pokemon. And the difference is that fucking Link can just swing his sword while running around, not have to stop and order pikachu to use thunderbolt and take 5 seconds to do it every single time. You don't even get a way to heal your character when you take damage.
>>58765953slut
>>58765953I'd rather be decapitated and castrated than play this trash!
