>flopped twice despite clearly being the devs favourite in both starter sets what could GF do to fix this guy so he can finally be the shillmon they desperately want him to be?
>>58787460By losing weight
>>58787465meganium is the fattest of all starter tho and yet is the most popular za starter
>>58787460>3rd fire/fighting in a row>ugly>bad>still better than the other two startersEmboar won.
>>58787469>and yet is the most popular starter of a flop trio is that supposed to be an achievement? lol
>>58787475heavily dragged down by mega feraligatr
>>58787478Too bad for you
>>58787460this again?
>>58787475Holy fuck Megagatr is an eyesore
>>58787475>Meganium and Emboar are just "it gets more thing">Feraligator gets a multilayered design>"Emboar is clearly the favorite because it appeals to my design sensibilities"LolFeraligator is the clear dev favorite
>>58787469Meganium doesn't even look fat for what it is.3254327
>>58787460>Clearly the devs favoriteIs that why Emboar’s typing was identical to the 2 previous Fire starters, but much worse off because its slower and wastes a bunch of its BST into SpA despite physical hitting much harder? Or how Serperior got Contrary while Emboar only got Reckless, even in Gen 9 where they updated hidden abilities so Empoleon could get Competitive? Or how its Mega dumped most if its BST bonus into SpD (the stat that you can use Assault Vest and another Mega), wasting BST into SpA yet again, and barely adding to the stats that actually matter, on top of not changing its type as well as also barely changing its design too?Doesn’t really sound like its GameFreak’s favorite
>>58787460Making it be on all fours like a wild Boar
>>58787460>Emboar flopped twice even with a Megakek
>>58787460>clearly being the devs favouriteIt and Samurott got fucking Reckless and Shell Armor while Serperior got Contrary Leaf Storm
>>58787531>Or how its Mega dumped most if its BST bonus into SpD (the stat that you can use Assault Vest and another MegaAssault Vest only allows attacking moves.Mega Emboar would make a decent Bulk Up + Drain Punch user
>>58787611Emboar has Rest and Drain Punch for recovery, so that’s not ideal. And that’s basically the only thing it can do over AV Emboar.
>le shillmonIs there anyone, who isn't a mouthbreather, that actually care about this?
>>58787685Yes? Having certain mons pushed inorganically is frustrating. Don't tell me you didn't feel humiliated when Korrina tried to make you take that lucario.
>>58787460Maybe make its design not dogshit?
>>58787733Lickilicky is not well designed. Not even GF cares about it.
>>58787730When I get shoved a Pokemon I don't care for, I just put it in the box
>>58787671After few Bulk Up boosts Drain Punch becomes serviceable recovery. And it only fears Toxic as its completely immune to burns
>>58787737Still looks a million times better
>>58787507>Multilayered design = giant Totodile kamen rider reference LOL!!!!Copenkekked
>>58787685Emboar nor Meganium are shillmons like retards on here actually believe
>>58787852Newsflash kiddo - starters are by default shillmon, they're always included in the key art for the games and generation.
>>58787832>>giant Totodile kamen rider referenceYou just proved their point retard
>"i-it's the dev fa-favourite">so that's why they designed it utterly ignoring the final stage as a concept and turned it into a giant base stage cosplay
>>58787852Shillmon is just a buzzword these days for any pokemon that gets screentime more than once. As if Pokemon is just going to stop showcasing their creations as soon as they're revealed to be unpopular. It's a retarded mindset, but shitposters are going post shit regardless.
>>58787852This call me when these two fickers are being plastered all over the place once ZA marketing stops, a shillmon transcends their Gen and keeps getting pushed regardless
>>58787880>starters are by default shillmon
>>58787880>starters are by default shillmonStarters were never supposed to be "shillmons." They didn't have movies based on them or anything like that. If they were popular, then they just were. The "starter shillmon" mindset that came with Greninja has been nothing but a detriment to this franchise and it'll never recover past it.
>Starter shillmon But enough about shartizard
Starters "Shillmons" in a nutshell, some are more pushed than others by a long shot
The ZA trio look like they don't belong together at all. Even the PLA trio all had the ancient japan/yokai inspirations to as a cohesive group theme. However what is even the theme of the ZA trio? All 3 seem to be doing their own thing.
>>58787943>ignorant monkey spergs harderGiven this place uses "shill" to mean "to market" and not in fact "an accomplice of a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others" or "to act as such", then yes you stupid retard cunt they ARE shillmon.; I mean, you monkeys sperg the shitters from your starting Gen get overshadowed by 'Zard, because it IS legitimately more popular than anything from your youth, so it gets marketed as such (I don't care what secondary contrarians think, a fire-breathing flying lizard is STILL as cool to the kids of today as it was to the kids in '96, '98 and '99). But by default, the starters of any particular Gen are shillmons for that Gen (and beyond) even if they will never match up against legitimately popular pokémon. Go back to being a secondary elsewhere.
>>58787954Sorry kid, just because they don't match your highly curated definition of a mis-used word doesn't mean they aren't in fact marketed out the arse for a generation or game's marketing cycle. Even if they never match the staple favourites in popularity.>>58787961Not until after their debut Generation. they get pushed equal during the thing (that pic up above with all 3 M starters from L: Z-A). It's only after the new Gen starts do they start pushing them in accordance to their popularity (Prima getting pushed, Incineroar getting love, Decidueye getting a repaint in the hopes of finding it an audience, 'Zard pushed out the arse, the also-rans getting token additions when Zard got them 2 megas, because Game Freak know Zard's design is perennial with little boys).
>>58787507>multilayered designI know people here don’t want to believe it, but it’s just a giant Totodile. The kamen rider thing is entirely coincidental.
>58788062>Pokémon are only shilled because they are popular not the other way around Then why is emboar getting a mega (the most powerful form of shilling in any franchise) when more popular fires get jack shit and others are actively set up to fail
>>58788127> the most powerful form of shilling in any franchisedo borts really think this?
>>58787961True, a starter is a shillmon if they continue to get pushed "hard" after their debut Gen and only a few fall into that category.
>>58787469>why is the dinosaur cool?
