How the fuck is this even fair? In Gen 1 OU it's basically impossible to take down, you're a fuckin loser if you've ever used Starmie even a single time, AIDS for life
>>58789716starmie is probably the first ever pokemon whose popularity was entirely due to how good it was in comp and nothing else. After gen 1 it got nerfed to the ground and was forgotten until the mega fixed it 29 years latter
the humble exeggutor
>>58789736Explosion has to crit to take Starmie down and since it's faster the 98% of Gen 1 it can just Recover
>>58789716>Chansey Thunderbolt vs. Starmie: 144-170 (44.5 - 52.6%) -- 22.6% chance to 2HKO>Starmie Hydro Pump vs. Chansey: 125-147 (17.7 - 20.9%) -- possible 5HKO
>>58789747Simply spam Mega Drain
>>58789762Anyone that can learn Mega Drain will get Blizzard'd out the fuckin wazoo
>>58789731nigga starmie has been one of my favourites since forever and i disn't even start with kanto
>>58789716I used Starmie for the entire Emerald Frontier and it's been my bro for life
>>58789731It was consistently one of the best Pokemon in the game all the way until Gen 7, what the fuck are you talking about
>>58789716Zapdos with Thunder
>>58789731Starmie was an OU staple until Greninja invalidated it.
>>58789784Nobody is talking about you
>>58790070you said Starmie's popularity was "entirely" based on how good it was in comp, so that Anon disproved what you said
I miss when pokémon felt like pokémon bros>Starmie is no longer OU>Gengar is no longer OU>Snorlax is no longer OU>fucking Skarmory is no longer OU>Jirachi, Metagross are no longer OU>Motherfucking Blissey is no longer OU>motherfucking Garchomp is no longer OU>holy motherfucking Tyranitar is no longer OUThese pokémon defined the meta for decades. It's true that it's been years since I stopped playing, but holy shit.
>>58789762>40 power move against Starmie's gargantuan SpecialNo nigga, you gotta blow it up or have Tauros blast it. Gen I-III meta isn't about hitting the SE button
>>58789731Starmie was only kicked out of OU after Greninja dropped into the tier. In Gen 6 OU it's currently ranked at the top of C+ tier, only 1 spot below Gengar, putting it above Alakazam, Mega-Swampert, Mega-Latios, Breloom, Celebi, and Jirachi. It probably would've been ranked higher if not for Defog making it kinda redundant.
>>58791121Heatran fell out of OU earlier this gen. ScRotom-W is gone too. It's true what they say: Landorus-T is next.
>>58790094I said nothing, anon, this board is not made of one person.Also, stop being so fucking autistic. At least try to stay on a functional level to not be an embarrassment
>>58789762>Mega drainBitch, please. This is the same generation where Blizzard has 90% accuracy and a 30% freeze chance
>>5879120930% freeze is only on the Japanese version. The International release, which is what Smogon uses, nerfed it to 10%.
>>58791121>>58791178if they had just banned tera and kicked out most of the paradoxies this wouldn't be happening
>>58789731Meta can kickstart a lot of mons in terms of being fan favorites, couple that with Starmie's design and you got an iconic PokemonNow they have doubled down with the Mega in both meta and design and it suddenly became a fan favorite again
>>58791218Banning Tera would've saved the Matchup Moth, yes, but the paradox Pokemon helped keep it in check. Booster Iron Valiant was a solid check to it since you'd outspeed no matter what and could Encore it.
>>58791121On the other hand Pokemon like Dragonite saw a comeback and even Articuno saw the light of day
>>58791221volcarona was fine for 4 gens, it'll be fine in gen 9 even if only one or two new mons can fight it. Plenty of old ones can. They even banned gliscor. LMAO.
>>58791231Tera Gliscor was actually an issue, though, because Gliscor could deal an obnoxious amount of damage if you guessed its set wrong. There was no universal answer to all of its sets and the punishment for guessing wrong was too severe.
>>58791216Oh really? Dang guess I just got lucky then, I don’t play Gen 1 much but I recall inflicting freeze more than once with blizzard.
>>58791242To be fair, the 30% chance to OHKO on Blizzard was simply too overpowered. The only way to unfreeze in Gen 1 was to get hit by a Fire attack so whatever you froze was out for good.
