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Why does she wear them as plates?
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>>58795659
Masuda couldn’t decide lol
>attacked them at birth
>created a giant so strong she couldn’t kill it, needing to sex humans
>made DiaPer from the giant which was the earth
So he just made it ambiguous and said the myths were fake anyway, and humans were the real monsters.
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I'm not understanding the reference
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where did this autistic "arceus looks like cynthia" thing even come from
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>>58795725
>gen 4 gods human female avatar looks like gen 4 female champion
makes sense

Especially with the Volo (Cynthias possible ancestor) x Arceus connection
Plus Cynthia met/interacted with Arceus several times, in games and ashnime
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>>58795731
isn't Cogita just Arecus?
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>>58795772
Nah, she was gods agent, tasked with something
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>>58795793
>in the teraleak it was mentioned that Arceus created Dialga and Palkia to fuck up the land of Sinnoh, since people couldn’t get along or some shit
We don’t have the notes of PLA to my knowledge, so my headcanon is that this was what made the land barren and cold, causing the Celestica to leave.
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Please, do no lewd the gods.
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>>58795698
Masuda had nothing you do with those schizo fairy takes it was just one guy dicking around with expendable Pokémon, but they were so shit Masuada rightfully rejected them.
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>>58795852
She does it for free
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We have a large number of versions of the mythos from Teraleak. None of them are truly canon because they are not part of the game. Furthermore, some versions contradict each other on certain points, or are replaced by very different ones.
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>>58795725
>"arceus looks like cynthia"
There were fan theories ever since the HGSS event that Cynthia is just the human avatar of Arceus meant to guide the player character and tpc just played into it with Volo's arceus cosplay and Cynthia's Arc suit in pokemon masterSEX
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>>58795659
Because she is a cruel, heartless, Braille hating bitch.
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>>58796101
Cynthia isn't the only one with an Arceus costume on Masters EX.

As for Volo, he's following a recent trend.
>Irida's outfit is based on Palkia's.
>Adaman's outfit is based on Dialga's.
>Sordward and Shielbert's are based on Zacian and Zamazenta.
>Sada and Turo share the same themes as Koraidon and Miraidon.
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>>58795659
well they shouldn't have tried to kill her
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>>58796246
>Cynthia isn't the only one with an Arceus costume on Masters EX.
but she was the first one
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>>58796036
Octillery, nooooo! What is you doingg there? you're not that type of pokemon!!!
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>>58796265
Which doesn't fundamentally change anything
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>>58796246
>>Irida's outfit is based on Palkia's.
>>Adaman's outfit is based on Dialga's
Outside of being pink and blue I fail to see how. Id anyone was inspired by Palkia its ironically Mars who has her hair styled like Palkia's "helmet"
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Arceus will never be a woman.
>Muh teraleak
Not canon and never will
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>>58796303
They don't have to give every character weird hairstyles.

For example, on Adaman, you can see shapes reminiscent of the diamond on Dialga's breastplate. The lower part of Irida's outfit splits in two, recalling Palkia's wings. It features pearls and very rounded patterns and forms, including bracelets reminiscent of the Water type, whereas Adaman has more cubic shapes and a kind of jewel with a diamond around his neck.
Their names literally refer to being iridescent, the characteristic of a pearl, while the other refers to the "adamantine" aspect, explicitly referencing the diamond, in keeping with the etymology of Dialga and Palkia, which also refer to the pearl and the diamond.
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>>58796336
Yes, they abandoned that version, and for good reason.
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>>58796101
This isn't the first time Masters EX has taken liberties with the outfits to make them resemble a Pokémon
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>>58795725
It's more that Volo has arceus hair, and female volo is just cynthia/cogita, so basically when I drew the image OP used (which I suspect got fed into a slop machine for >>58795687 joke's on them my art is dogshit so you're just degrading your slop machine retard) I just took aspects of Volo and Cynthia with the hair being a bit more wavy and flowing to one side to sort of taper into Arceus' weird mane-fin thing.

I made that image because a friend asked me to btw.
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>>58796402
I also have this
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>>58796410
Genuinely hate this bitch.
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>>58796429
Only in your fanfiction
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>>58795725
Cynthia fanwanking.
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>>58795659
Arceus is male because he is a God, not a Goddess.
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>>58796869
Technically, it is neither male nor female
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>>58796869
Pokémon isn't made by a people influenced by an Abrahamic religion, where men wanted to subjugate the women because they're cunts (2,000 years, we're still fucking monkeys acting the maggot, kek). Thus doesn't (and will never) follow (You)r Abrahamic mindset. Go make your own moncap game with a manly man god, if you can't accept that.
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>>58796869
god is a girl
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>>58796887
No such thing in Pokémon.
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>>58796895
I said that because it doesn't need to be gendered. It's not a species that lives in nature and follows the life cycle (being born, living, feeding by killing, reproducing to genetically evolve its species over generations and perpetuate it, then dying to be replaced). Therefore, the concept of gender and reproduction doesn't really matter for this kind of immortal entity, which is a personification of nature or the laws of the Universe.
Sexual reproduction has a specific biological function that doesn't make sense for certain Pokémon such as Arceus, Zygarde, Giratina, Dialga, Rayquaza, etc.

It's the embodiment of beginnings, and it creates things and Pokémon all by itself from nothing. It didn't need to encounter an Arceus of the opposite gender to create things.
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>>58796889
>devs backwards and dumb enough to have a “female” as the main god figure are degenerates who pervert a franchise that’s supposed to be a wholesome summer adventure of catching battle pets into a cesspool of the most disgusting stories of beastiality, rape, and worse.
And in one fell swoop every Abrahamic extremity is justified holy shit, the next Crusades should target Japan.
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>>58796963
>NOOO YOUR MADE UP FAIRY TALES ARE NOT MY MADE UP FAIRY TALES
Your lowercase g god is no more real than Arceus.
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>>58796402
I don't think >>58795687 is ai.
It looks like it was drawn with the binary pen tool, which I've never seen ai do, but it also adds elements like the collar
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>>58795722
Just read the Flame plate.
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>>58796362
Arceus is still treated as a bigger deal than other legendaries given it has yet to receive a sync pair
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>>58795659
Reminder that Cynthia got a Giratina in Masters and not Arceus. Cynthia is the devil, not god
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>>58796429
>not Dialga and Palkia
They hate Arceus too theyre just too scared of daddy pulling out the belt to do anything
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>>58797020
My God (capital G) isn't a perverted deformed llama whore. I have more respect for poos praying to uncooked hamburger than whatever the shithole produced the myths that caused inspired Lame Freak's porn fic myths
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>>58796429
Based Regiboomer
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>>58796265
It was her, Steven, and Lance
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>>58797369
Someone doesn't know their own lore lmao. Remind me which lowercase g god raped a woman and forced her to conceive his half-breed bastard and did all sorts of other heinous shit?
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>>58795659
Whimsy of the gods is beyond human understanding.
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>>58797412
she was the first one from those 3
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>>58797614
>Remind me which lowercase g god raped a woman and forced her to conceive his half-breed bastard and did all sorts of other heinous shit?
Zeus?
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>>58795659
>>58797369
I wonder why the same anon keeps considering outdated versions as factual, when they're not canonical at all.

Anyway, OP is just the same clown who spams his fanfiction on Regis threads; I shouldn't be surprised that he can't do anything but post the same old topics.
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>>58797352
Yeah, because no trainer bar protagonists (and only specific ones canonically) ever meet or use Arceus in battle and as Masters took the direction of NOT adding protag characters to the game cannot in fact give Arceus to canonically unworthy trainers, regardless if some find themselves bestowed with Her favour. The "lesser" legends, the ones befriended or allowed themselves to be caught by other characters are fair game. But God only appeared in front of Lucas and after he proved his worth to Her, She sent him an Azure Flute to his past self, to allow him to meet Her again in modern times. Do you even play the games the spin off wank's built around?
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>>58796410
where is the one where Palkia chastises here for doing what she did in human form?
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>>58797883
>I wonder why the same anon keeps considering outdated versions as factual, when they're not canonical at all.
Why does it matter if its not 1/1 canon? The concepts are still being recycled which is pretty evident with the legends games now trying to tie the lore of all previous games together
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>>58798412
This rule doesn't apply to all abandoned content. We'll never see Arceus become human to do that. Nothing in the Legends games refers to that.
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>>58797883
Whats not factual? The Plates are made of dead Giants and Arceus wears their corpses for power. That is undeniable from just the in game content.
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>>58798551
I didn't deny that Arceus destroyed giants to transform them into plates. That's in the game; this is a fact that justifies the existence of the 18 plates imbued with the essence of each type.

I'm talking about Arceus transforming into a woman to give birth. That's completely invalidated and will never be reused. Arceus can factually create divine Pokémon all by itself, without anyone's help. He created things from nothing, in the void, when neither the universe and its structure, nor matter existed.
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>>58798584
I mean Arceus is shown to be the source of ALL eggs in pokemon from the Sinjoh cutscene when Cynthia explains that what you saw was how all Egg just pop into existence.
Whos to say its not the same for Humans? Humans probably have some weird shinto origin story in the pokemon world rather than a darwinian evolutionary one IRL.
Some of those leaks explain they were made from palkia, others because Arceus fucked a human male that existed in the void, whos to know which one is right? The world may never know, so we ponder....
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>>58798671
However, this is metaphorical and symbolic because it's said that Arceus hatched from an egg and is the origin of everything that exists. Therefore, everything that has existed, everything that exists, and everything that will exist are indirect creations stemming from what it directly created (the Universe, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, time, space, the Spirit Trio, the soul, the matter). All living beings are composed of matter and a soul, which are the result of Arceus's creations.

Eggs inherit the traits of the parents, and there are males and females. When we say they appear magically, it's just a sanitized version for children, since they won't be talking about sexual relations in their games. Humans don't lay eggs.

Darwinian evolution is even confirmed many times in Pokémon through Mew, Fossil Pokémon, Paradoxes Pokémon, Regional forms, and so on. All are manifestations of the evolutionary process of species in their natural environment over a certain period of time.

In Teraleak, Palkia also possessed powers related to the sun, heat, light, and daylight in some versions. But this is irrelevant, just like the part about her connection to humans—it's dead.

There are no humans in the void; it's illogical and impossible because matter and the universe don't exist. Humans aren't divine entities existing outside of time, space, matter, and the soul. Regarding the part of the myth you mentioned, the world is already created by Arceus and the giant(s). It's only after the world is created that we hear about humans and Arceus in female form. This version is therefore completely contrary to the official canon and cannot exist.
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>>58798756
Cynthia literally says "we are the first people to ever see how a pokemon egg comes to be." Thats not metaphorical or symbolic. Its literal and we see it. All eggs come from Arceus making them appear. There is even official art for this.

Also evolution happens to pokemon, but not humans. Unless you want to say that pokemon and humans have a common ancestor as there are no other "animals" for humans to evolve from.
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>>58798671
>The absolute god Aus gave birth to the giant, who shared its raging power, in order to create the ultimate world.
>The giant had the power to destroy, consume, and purify everything.
>Through the power of the giant, all walls were broken down and the world expanded.

>There was one man.
>One day, in the land where the man lived, there was a wounded woman lying on the ground.

I quote Teraleak, the world has already been created.
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>>58798763
You're making sweeping generalizations and lacking nuance.

There's a significant difference between Arceus, a divine entity that exists beyond the very concepts of time, space, matter, and soul. Arceus is immortal and not subject to the cycle of life, creating things on its own, from nothing.
And biological beings, which have large populations and are explicitly male or female, are subject to the cycle of life: being born, fighting to survive, feeding on other living species, reproducing to perpetuate and evolve the species, and dying to be replaced or to nourish another species.This does not apply to Arceus.

Humans are also subject to the same cycle of life and evolution. We simply don't know how this connection is made in the Pokémon universe because animals don't exist. This means there's no inherent hereditary link to animal species like primates in the real world.
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>>58798763
>Arceus creates divine entities from nothing, embodying natural concepts.
>Random Pokémon must find a genetically compatible partner of the opposite sex in order to produce offspring that inherit the traits and genes of both parents.

It's not the same thing. The only common element is the egg; the rest is unrelated. It's simply the symbolism of the egg that brings life.
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>>58798796
so admit either 1 of 2 things.

1. Humans and Pokemon have a common ancestor for both to evolve
2. Humans just appears in the world in a shinto-esque way alongside pokemon that are seperately subject to evolution.

Number 2 is the obvious answer as there are no hominids, monkey, or any non-pokemon in the canon.
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While both humans and Pokemon come from the same source, they're still different if we go by what the devs have said but I'm they're different in the way yokais are different. As for Pokemon eggs, they're cradles that Pokemon make for their offspring which appear to cause spontaneous growth.
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>>58797369
>My God (capital G)
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>>58798934
We can't be certain of anything because, unfortunately, this point is never clearly addressed in the games. But I would suggest three hypotheses:

1- Humans and Pokémon share a common ancestor, preferably in more humanoid lineages or among the monkey-like Pokémon.

2- Humans appeared this way and did not evolve, but that would be very strange because they have the characteristics of biological beings.

3- Only the evolutionary lineage of the real-world human being exists. That is to say, the earliest Homo sapiens species, those resembling apes, have always considered human. I don't think earlier versions of humans didn't exist, especially when Sada dresses as a cavewoman.
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>>58799086
dress and culture can be whatever, but all we see are humans, no homids, apes, or real world animals for humans to evolve from.

The Shinto origin of humanity makes the most sense. Humans aren't pokemon and pokemon aren't humans. That is clear as day in the games, anime, and supplementary materials.
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>>58798506
>We'll never see Arceus become human to do that.
We now know that canonically the "body" that Arceus uses.isnt the actual entity and pokemon have been known to take on the guise of humans like Zoroark and Ditto so its not outside the.realm of possibility for arceus to incarnate itself into a human form in a future game, especially if they want to give it a more active role in the story without having to animate its pokemon model.
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>>58799171
As I said, an exceptional lineage that essentially represents humanity cannot be ruled out. We wouldn't be talking about animals because they don't exist, but about very primitive humans. By that, I mean that the ape species wouldn't exist; the closest thing to them would be "the first humans," however savage they may have been.

I don't think humans have always been the same. They are biological beings who are also subject to the cycle of life, like Pokémon. The fact that we have diverse skin colors implies Darwinian evolution. Pokémon and humans are indeed two distinct things, although in the past the line between the two seemed somewhat blurred.
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>>58799236
Arceus's body is the real entity. However, it's a physical body that adapts to the laws of the universe it created. We know it existed when space, time, matter, and the soul didn't exist, and this has been known since DP.
You must be referring to APL, where he says he gives a part of himself, but he was referring to the Legends Plate, which doesn't contain the essence of the elemental giants, but rather his own, defined by the essence of all creation (which is literally his power).

Zoroark creates illusions; he doesn't actually transform into a human. Only Ditto seems able to do that in the games because he appears to be able to mimic the DNA of all living beings, although it's unstable and temporary. Why create a new model, a human form from scratch, when you already have the Arceus model and quite a few animations for him? He will always remain passive; having him intervene eliminates all tension because he can resolve everything on his own.
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>>58796303
Are you retarded?
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Does this thread seriously have someone pissed off that Arceus isn’t a good enough representation of God? That’s fucking hilarious, most reddit thing I’ve see this year.
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>>58799525
A lot of people prior to Arceus getting slowly explained throughout the years just headcanon'd it as being very similar to christian god.
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>>58797614
You'll have to be more specific than that or we'll be here all night.
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Made for BRC ( Big Regi Cock )
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>>58799660
What people tend to forget is that before being divine figures, Arceus and its creations are beings that embody scientific concepts that underpin and constitute the laws of our Universe. Therefore, they have nothing to do with the mythological gods of the real world, regardless of religion. It's a more modern and scientific vision.

Arceus is the Alpha Pokémon, which means its theme is: beginnings. Teraleak's etymology:
>"archi" (beginning) (Greek: arche)" + "Zeus".
>[Both "archi" (ἀρχι-) and "arche" (ἀρχή) have notions of "beginning" and "sovereignty/rule/authority".]
It refers to the beginning, and also because Zeus is a kind of god of gods (in the same way that Arceus is superior to Giratina, Dialga, Palkia, Rayquaza, Groudon...).

In fact, Arceus is a personification of the Big Bang. It is the beginning of the Universe, when space began to expand and time began to flow. The Big Bang is the origin of everything that exists; Arceus is the creator of all things. Arceus created Dialga and Palkia, who are respectively the personifications of time and space. It is from their appearance that the universe takes shape; time begins to flow, and space expands in all directions. Together, they allow matter to exist, which in turn distorts the fabric of reality, generating gravity. As for Giratina, it is what counterbalances Dialga and Palkia; it distorts time and space and is linked to antimatter. The Distortion World, a kind of mirror world balanced with what Dialga and Palkia created on a dimensional level, is essential. It's as if, for order to exist, disorder must also exist.
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>>58797614
>he considers Typhlosion a God
Okay T Diddy.
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>>58800034
>she thinks slander written to frame Typhlosion for Sinnohians raping children and animals is real
go back and kys
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>>58799347
so you admit humans and pokemon have a common ancestor. Cool.



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