I-is that an Iron Tail? From a P-Pikachu??? AIIEEEEEEE!!!!
>>587991424th Metagross Pikachu has knocked out btw
>>58799142Metagross in the anime are just weak to steel type moves
>>58799142>dodges the Z-move>umm actually the attack can change direction because... it just can?Lol lmao
Isn't this the same Metagross that fought Primal Kyogre and tanked a Blast Burn from Alain's Charizard X?
>>58799179Pikachu is stronger than both of them.
>>58799189No it didn’t. There wasn’t even a Tyranitar in this match.
>>58799206i got the leagues wrong
>>58799179Ash completely eclipsed Alain in powerscaling in JN. Pikachu beat Leon’s Charizard, who OHKO’d Alain’s Megazard.
It at least has the honor of being the only Pokemon to not get knocked out by 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt (only because it partially dodged it though).Leon's Charizard never got hit by it because G-Max Wildfire is equal to it in power and they clashed.
>>58799142The Ashime was a mistake
>>58799233The stark contrast in how they treated Steven's loss with Cynthia and Leon's losses is hilarious dude really is a 3rd rate champion
>>58799257It was weird that they had Ash fight Steven in the first place. The guy barely interacted with Ash at all across the entire anime run.
>>58799344My guess is someone on the writing team was a Cynthiafag who really hated Iris
>>58799257>>58799344>>58799354It's very obvious why they made Steven 3rd place and why they made him fight Ash: Steven's popular.Do you also think Cynthia being 2nd was a coincidence?Do you also think Lance fighting Diantha and then losing so they could have Diantha lose to Leon was a coincidence? No. Lance had already lost to Leon, doing that again would be pointless. They picked Diantha for a reason: Because no fucking one gives a shit about Diantha.Do you think Alan got fed to Leon as a coincidence? No, it served a double purpose: Charizardino wank hypebait by teasing G-Max vs Mega Charizardinos and secondly so that if Leon beats Alan that means Ash is stronger than Alan since he beat Leon so shut the fuck up already and stop being mad about the Kalos League.Steven and Cynthia are popular, arguably the most popular female and male Champions respectively. They are not gonna get fodderized by Leon and risk a shitstorm. Losing to Ash brings in no shame because he's the MC so he must win, specially so shitneys Ash whose plot armor is unending and loses 50IQ when in front of him. Like, just look how they massacred Cynthia's Garchomp moveset and had her do retarded shit like putting out Stealth Rock when Ash only had 2 Pokemon left and both of them resisted the sneaky stones.The M8 is an absolute mess and disaster writing-wise, we all know the anime staff is fucking retarded, but even them are not THAT retarded and are capable of coming up with brackets for maximum marketing, maximum damage control, maximum avoidance of butthurt from the fanbase.It's too bad they never apply this sort of effort to the things that truly matter. Only the surface level shit. Peak soulessness.
How many times as a Non-Mega beaten a Mega Pokemon in the anime outside of Pikachu vs Mega Lucario and Mega Metagross?
>>58799398has a*
>>58799398Off the top of my head>Hawlucha vs Mega Absol>Incineroar vs Mega Aggron>Scizor vs Mega Kangaskhan>Dragonite vs Mega Lucario>Dragapult vs Mega Lucario>Charizard vs Mega Charizard XProbably more (haven't watched horizons yet) but these are the ones I remember
>>58799398Off the top of my head, and not counting Ash Greninja...Ash's Hawlucha vs Astrid's Mega Absol, no gimmicksAsh's Pikachu beating Misty's Gyarados, via Z-MoveGuzma's Scizor vs Ilima's Mega Kangaskhan, no gimmicksLeon's Charizard vs Alain's Charizard, also no gimmicks
>>58799398Hawlucha beat Absol on the League.Kukui's Incineroar beat this Rocket dude Aggron.Guzma beat Mega Mom in the League.Sirfetch beat Drasna's Mega Altaria.Charizardino beating Alan's CharizardG-Max Charizardino beat Diantha's Gardevoir.Dragapult flamethrowered Mega Lucario after it got parahaxed.Crocalor beat Mega LucarioLucius Arboliva beat Mega Lucario and Mega DragoniteThe rat's beaten Korrina Lucario, Misty Gyarados and Steven's Metagross.I think those are all.
>>58799142I greatly enjoy seeing Pikachu be a shonen protagonist instead of a game accurate waste of a party slot.Pikachu taking on a mega pseudo without a shred of fear and winning? Fuck yeah! That's our guy
>Steven couldn't beat Pikachu>Leon couldn't beat Pikachu>Cynthia did but only through Destiny BondWhat a guy
>>58799173The new games have Pokemon hitting attacks they would’ve missed “so you wouldn’t feel bad”
>>58799507>>58799524The power of shit writing, asspulls and plot armor.It sucks since Pikachu having big wins used to be hype as fuck but everything past XY is utterly souless since you know it's all rooted on damage control.
>>58799142Why was the anime so obsessed with fucking Iron Tail of all moves
>PIKACHU, MAKE THE BATTLE COMPLETELY PREDICTABLE BY USING IRON TAIL!The anime is infested with cliches like this and the bigger Pokemon always losing.
>>58799542It's the physical close-range option.Quick Attack was mobility.Thunderbolt is the special long-range option.Electroweb is the utility one.
>>58799563what was up with Electroball?
>>58799524>Cynthia outplayed plotchuTHE STRONGEST
>>58799398Neomona's Pawmot got a win on Roy's Mega Lucario but iirc it was in Tera so that probably doesn't count.
>>58799651Does terastalize actually raise powerlevels in the anime unlike the games
>>58799690The anime is treating it basically as a not-Mega general power boost that makes the mon going Mega stronger as a whole. It's always saved-up for the tail-end of the battle like a super form and the character is finally "going serious" now.
>>587991533rd. He jobbed to anabels
>>58799142I guess Ash must have shoved a light ball up his bottom
>>58799524>Cynthia knew Pikachu was the biggest threat and would add garchomp to its list of pseudos ko'd unless she took it out
>>58799719How the meme rat KO'ed Gastrodon was fucking bullshit.They did my boy so dirty during the M8.
>>58799727Cope lmao. Pikachu was tired of carrying a bunch of shitmons on it's back and was ready to let loose. In kalos it took down two fucking pseudos and hurt Charizard more than Greninja did
>>58799738>Ash self-inserterOpinion discarded.
>>58799651I thought it was different? I thought it lost to Mega Lucario but beat regular Lucario later in a double battle, then best Tera Croc.
>>58799142+6 252+ Atk Light Ball Pikachu Iron Tail vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Metagross-Mega: 195-230 (64.7 - 76.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>>58799774Just went back to check and you're right, my bad lol. Misremembered the episode pretty badly
>>58799643>Needed destiny bond crutch to win
>>58799179Pikachu could oneshot Primal Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza simultaneously at this point. A puny metagross is nothing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nweqk3VIqYU&pp=ygUNTGVvbiB2cyBhbGFpbg%3D%3DMan Alain's Zard sucks huh?
>>58799257Steven is tied in the anime to Diantha (a champion so unpopular they shat on her with a Leon Rillaboom sweep and didnt even show her in ZA) and Alain (the bane of all Ashfags). Steven got the best treatment they could give him without ensnaring the rage of Ashfags with XYZ PTSD.
>>58799727the pokemon anime at this point is everything being done dirty. i feel like some animator has it out for some pokemon on any given day of the week, even pikachu when he gets humiliated by a grapploct
Let it never be said that Charizard is the biggest shillmon of all time, not with Pikachu around.I just think back to when getting a love tap by Zekrom practically shorted Pikachu out, leaving it unable to use electric attacks, only for Pikachu to straight up overpower Tapu Koko's Z-move two regions later.
>>58799827The Grapploct is so funny considering how wanked the meme rat is on shitneys otherwise.The oddest thing is that there's no reason why it kept losing to it, and twice at that, because the thing neither Ash nor the rat could counter was... the octopus grabbing the rat while the rat and Ash for some reason forget Thunderbolt exists.
>>58799801It jobbed to a Lugia like 8 episodes later
>>58799388>if Leon beats Alan that means Ash is stronger than Alan since he beat Leon so shut the fuck up alreadyDoes that mean Misty and Ritchie are stronger than Leon?
>>58799778a 2HKO after belly drum is not crazy
>>58799827I can't believe they had Blastoise get scared by and lose to Lycanroc....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWHX67TFQSg
>>58799909There is absolutely no logic or continuity in the anime. This has been the case for the better part of almost 3 decades. Every villain just asspulls absolutely retarded shit that works because the plot demands it does (Paul, Guzma, Cyrus). All so Meme Mouse can Clean House and humiliate them/turn them into the Heel. Its just how it is. With the shit they've done with Pikachu, it should just vaporize anything it touches. The only reason it still gets pummeled is for drama or to let something else have the limelight (Infernape)This shit is just Anime Wrasslin'. Thats what its always been, moreso than other Shonen. >>58799984 is the equivalent of some random no-name 350lb wrestler walking out and getting """"brutalized"""" by CM Punk.
>>58799636Gen V shilling. It was redundant with Thunderbolt.
>>58799918Was that supposed to be a gotcha moment? it's a lugia, retard. It has plenty lore armor in front of it.
>>58799388What about Iris? Why didn't she have a fateful Champion match with Ash?
Kanto League Bellsprout would tank that.
>>58799388>Like, just look how they massacred Cynthia's Garchomp movesetGround moves are just really bad for fight choreography with Lucario, do you wanna watch Lucario jump over Earthquake 5 times?
>>58799388>Steven's popularSo they humiliated him with Iron Tail Pikachu? lolLance or Iris vs Ash would've at least meant something since they know each other. Diantha and Steven also met each other during XYZ, and they're both Mega Champions. Much more respectable matchup.
>>58800311His argument is that Steven was spared being beaten by Leon so that Champion power level fags can copeOf course this entire discussion is retarded because the show is written for little kids so the guy written to be number 1 is going to be the strongest without ambiguity
>>58799813https://youtu.be/Kmn9F3bFj4g?si=uEryuaDH70NqNyho
>>58799233This looks like shit
PIKACHU RUN
>>58800311Everything you cried about was addressed in the post you quoted. Did you just stop reading at the first sentence or what?You are seriously illiterate, anon.>>58800246>Why didn't she have a fateful Champion match with Ash?She already had it.Don't you remember how Dracovish one-shot her Dragonite on its literally first battle ever and second on-screen appearance ever?
>>58800030>>58799909>>58799984The problem is that anime always doubles down on the "bigger they are the harder they fall"/"small but mighty" tropes to the point they're cliches almost every battle outcome is entirely predictable.Gastrodon was bigger so it lost.Blastoise was bigger so it lost.Metagross was bigger so it lost.Unfortunately this is the anime so certain Pokemon get the exact opposite of respect and dignity like the 9/11 that was Diantha vs. Leon.
>>58799388Reason for blatant Cynthia pandering was twofold.They were hyping BDSP and PLA but also sadly it was sendoff for Cynthia's VA that was struggling with illness and just few months later died.>>58799533Personally I preferred early Pokemon series where Ash and Pikachu was winning by quick thinking and some unconventional tactics. XY onwards really fucked Ash's iconic battle style and M8 completely ruined it by just letting him spam all the gimmicks.Ash is Young Joseph Joestar, not Goku.
they were too scared to bring back GODbias because he would've swept
>>58801058>jobbed to Cynthia offscreenOhnonononono tobiasbros....
>>58801228>he believes the english localisation made out of spite LMAO
>>58799142Worf Effect
