A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?>Thread question:Aside from battling and other major sports like Baseball and racing, what else might exist?>Previous thread:>>58785209
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>>58801360>TQI remember Dawn's Ambipom training to be a table tennis champion
>>58801384You know, Kahili is a very good isekai-reincarnation target.>Very pretty lady>Barely a real character so no one will miss the "real" one>Extremely rich so lots of resources and influence available for you>E4-tier so you have a good base to work with trainer-strength wiseAs far as Alola goes, she's a great power fantasy insert candidate.
>>58801360FootballImagine the Eyeshield21 of this world
>>58801434Also, flying is a ridiculously strong type to specialize on too. I still have nightmares of birdspam.
>>58801360Alakazam Chess. It's like regular chess but stupider. Like the rules devolve into Calvinball halfway through. Humans don't know if it's a real game or the psychics pretend to play it just to fuck with people, but it's a popular spectator sport and the mons never break kayfabe
Looking for a story where a human turns into a Pokemon and gets adopted into a Pokemon family. Something like This Wasn’t Expected or Super Mystery Dungeon
>>58801360Haven't kept up with any specific fics since my old fanfiction.net days. What are some good "serious" fics to read? By serious I just mean competently written without any gooner gimmicks like anthro pokemon.
>>58801685Well there are our writebro fics:In Mine Own, follows Kuzey as he and eventually a few others work to solve a mystery.https://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648/chapters/151934926Pokemon Crystal Light - A Pokemon Final Fantasy, follows the knight Wol as he and (his) Blastoise journey to stop a coming devastation.https://archiveofourown.org/works/63406333/chapters/162454279Prince of Po Town, follows a man named Ian who is isekai'd into a fallen Alola and his life there.https://archiveofourown.org/works/66210784/chapters/170669461A Crazed Creation, follows a schizophrenic Gible who searches for meaning.https://archiveofourown.org/works/63874153/chapters/163810924
>>58801735You missed a few anons, you meanie.
>>58802015Yeah, but those were the first that come to mind cuz they won't stfu.
>>58801735>didn't make the cutBros...
>>58802070Become slightly obnoxious, anon.
>>58801685The ones I see thrown around are Traveler and Ghost/Type/Tech Specialist. I’d say nutritionman but his stories are clearly goon-lite.
>>58801685The GOAT, aka, Game of Champions.
>>58801685Salvage
>>58801685>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10724762/1/Wild-PokemonI read this one long ago, still the first thing that comes to mind when I think of a good Pokémon fic
>>58801436Aura cultivation move aside, the people of pokeearth have forgotten ENGLISH and can no longer use the unown language for power, but not isekai-kun. Using a basic understanding of the english language it's possible to become the strongest like no one ever was.signed -t AURA BREAK
>>58802198Sorry g*jin but Kanji are the real building blocks of the universe. Everyone in pokearth already writes in shitty Unown scribbles
>>58802273Oh, show me the kanji pokemonoh wait, you can't
>>58802273That energy is just 5 lines in an asterisk/star shape, clearly not the same as the kanji
Fact: Kanji are so FUARKING strong they allowed ANY pokemon to grant ANY move quick attack priority or a life orb damage boost simply by visualizing the Kanji in their head. This was before the Unown globalization cult took over and the ancient nipponese symbols of power were lost to the ages sadly
>>58802374Kanji are too cool, and Arceus (WHO ISNT GOD) decided to make them less cool by introducing english letters
>>58802389Kanji > Braille > Engl*sh
>>58801735For the record there is an open self submit ao3 collection here for thread fics, to be easier to share. I think you can submit non ao3 fics to it through submitting a link to where its posted. So feel free to submit yourself if you want, people tend to forget this collection exists specifically to answer this question. It will not be curated beyond an author asking me to remove their work, so post whatever you want.https://archiveofourown.org/collections/vpfanfictionthread
>>58802120These anons don't know I've been reincarnated into a world full of pussies, so my cheat skill of being slightly obnoxious makes me the most powerful fanfic author.
>>58802374>ancient nipponesefilthy sakura savages wield a fraction of a copy of a dilution of the glorious xia language and think themselves gods. The character for "big" is actually originated from the superior, BIGGER mainland, which as you well know is the heart and origin of civilization. Such is the might of the fabled eastern region that even their common house petmons are regarded as "legendary" in the inferior sakura regions.
>>58802813>when your ancient civilization is so superior your common fire mutts are worshipped as Gods by the surrounding mud hut villages and the random shit you give them turns into actual Legendary beings just because
what do you guys do when you start running out of words and phrases to use and start having to repeat some? like when youve exhausted all other words and there's nothing left that makes sense or when a line sounds like ai like "It wasn't X but Y" but it actually fit/sounded good there. just leave it? or do whatever it takes not to have that?
>>58802904Run it through CHADgpt and make it give you suggestions. No different from consulting a thesaurus really
>>58802904Try to focus on something else (What else is going on in the scene? What is the actual meaning or gravity behind the action?) or just avoid it entirely with no shame. It's probably not as bad as you're imagining either way.
>>58802904>Change the perspective I'm describing the scene from to alter the language/conjugation>Hit my thesaurus>Make a word the fuck upAll viable depending on the scene.
>>58802374Shouldn’t have kneeled to pure Unovan Victini bombs.
>>58802374>Unown globalization cultWhere? The script in game is nothing like the Latin alphabet not does it match the grammar.
>>58803095Yeah, it's a big plot point in the games game that the Unown script is some ancient thing only a few people know how to read. We the players have no issue because we're extraterrestrial entities with extraplanar knowledge piloting a living child.
Do you have talking Pokemon in your story? Do you think Pokemon should be able to talk in the first place?
>>58803293Yes, in three senses. There was one character in my fic who is a Pokemon, but is capable of shapeshifting into human form, and is also capable of human speech. Additionally, all Pokemon are "speaking" when making their noises in my world, as they're all to some degree sapient beings with language and intent, but most humans need to spend time with their Pokemon before they can actually understand one another.
>>58802904Sometimes I just overuse words for the bit.
>>58803293I have talking pokemon planned for my fic. A walking talking freak meowth.
>>58803351immersion ruined. How would his aura even work?
>>58802904Occasionally using the same phrase is fine, it can even be endearing or an injoke to readers. Just avoid ai mannerisms.
>>58803351Is it a double agent for Team Rocket?
>>58803351Is he a news reporter by chance?
>>58803352Meowth may seem the WEAKEST, but they're actually THE STRONGEST since they cultivate the rare and powerful Gold Aura that only a scant few species can tap into.
>>58803360Perhaps he's even here, on da scene?
>>58803293Pokemon can convey simple concepts to humans who have learned to understand them, and can speak perfectly to each other.
>>58803351A walking talking freaking meowth.
>>58803482he's short and he don't move too fastbut he's faster than I(he's my walkie talkie cat)last night on the show we saw himblastin off in the sky
What pizza chains exist in your fics?>Little Falinks
>>588035892 Champs Pizza
>>58803589Freddy Fivebear's Pizzeria. Their mascots are Ursarang, Beartic, Bewear, Urshifu, and Pangoro. arr arr ar ar ar
Could I learn Charm if I had aura?
>>58803575holy basado
>>58803589
>>58803353>ai mannerismsWhat's sad is that's the style of the human material it was trained on. Me and my fellow em-dash fags will not live down the ai allegations but I will never give it up.
How much do you care about the natures of your MC's mons?
>>58803936You mean like the game mechanics? Not at all. I even drop false hints for game natures even though they're not a thing just because it's fun to mislead people.
alright I'm fucking done with this shit I'm going to upload muh fic
>>58803936Only for their personalities, couldn't care less for the stats boosts and lows
ok here's my first fanfic everhttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/14536746/1/Vermilion-PD
>>58803936I might use it for personality but that's pretty broad and limited there too.Not a fan of game mechanics beyond ideas. It feels very limiting on what you can do.
So, guys, we know curse changes it's effect depending if the user is ghost typed or not.What if there were more cases like that (not tied to typing in specific)Like, what if swords dance for either steel or rock types meant either changing their metal bits to be more spiky(steel) or in case of rock types, basically putting stealth rock rocks that looks like blades while dancing on their body to launch with physicall attacks.
>>58803936Wrote two paragraphs before I realized you'd typed "mons" and not "moms."
>>58804398"Gotta catch 'em all, PokeMILFs!
I don't care how cheesy it is, making an "Unown language-unknown language" pun is too tempting to pass up.
>>58804448>un own language >they steal language
>>58804041Cheers anon, I'll save this for later reading
>Finally read IMO chp 9.IMOanon, I wish you a HORRIBLE evening. (but not that horrible.)>>58802058Course we won't stfu, where do you think we are?
>>58801360What do you do when you only have an outline of what happens for your next section but a solid idea of how to actually write the section after? Do you just block out/bullet point events for the middle bit and carry on writing afterwards or do you just bash out the bare minimum with a plan to fix it later so you at least have a constant prose for reading through afterwards?
>>58804430Was making a pregnancy kink monster taming game parody once. Made a few different designs based on different series, but never got past drawing the pregnant monster girls.
>>58804041Also put this on my read later list. Busy with holidays
>>58804733Excited to read your thoughts!
>>58805174>a fart coming out of an assWhy did they yokai watch-ify diglet?
>Ending two scenes in one chapter that give the MC goosebumpsNot sure if a third’s possible but I will try.
>>58803936Any story that takes natures/IVs/EVs seriously gets dropped desu
>>58805343I wish there were more fics that didn't take themselves seriously
>>58805401HOLY FUAAARRKK
So what's that fic?Either direction works.
>>58804880AI
>>58804880bullet points you fill out later. Write sections under certain character names for perspective and then put them together after
>>58805939traveler
>>58802813What's the equivalent to 4000 years of martial arts?
>>58804594>>58804988based hope you like it
>>588065092 hours of hyper training
>>58806509An ultra wormhole dimension where time flows faster so you can use it like the hyperbolic time chamber.
How the fuck are Hard Enough and New Normal still updating. Both are sitting at about 1.6 million words each with constant updates. This is the kind of upload ethic I'd expect from a chinese webnovel that's being paid per chapter, and it screams "winging it" to me just as loudly.
>>58806752patreonbucks are that good
>>58806752God I wish I had a whimsical slopfic that's just a sandbox of my bs ideas and also a money printer. I applaud them.
ffanfiction.net seems to have a lot of bots asking me to email them about working together on my next story. and some guy was like hi my name is anthony and nothing else and he had some one paragraph fanfic about big bird
>>58806791Bots and autists are simply facts of life.
>>58806791Based anthony
>>58806793>>58806801https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14310206/1/A-Gift-from-a-Feathered-Friend
>>58806804oh wait it has another chapter
If I write a gag character who's a trap will I get labeled as transphobic?
>>58806819On spacebattles probably yeah. I don't know about RR/SV/QQ tho, and FF/Ao3 doesn't matter.
>>58806819I've seen traps mentioned a lot on QQ, sometimes the stray attention-seeking tranny projects himself onto a girly dude and gets mad but you can just ignore that as the mods only care if there's an annoying off-topic blow-up about it and the majority of readers will not give a fuck.
>>58806819Define gag.Hideyoshi? Astolfo? Hideri?It depends on how you write him. Is it comedy relief that life shits on him all the time? Is he the mood maker? Is he lighthearted and retarded at first glance but actually very competent? Or is he a transvestite stereotype where he actually traps people?It really really varies here.Fact of the matter though, the people who'll want to call you so, will do so no matter what you really do so it's not worth dwelling on.
>>58806819No
>>58806819Yes
>>58806819Maybe
>>58806819Avoid actually using the term trap and you'll probably be fine.
>>58806791I'm guessing they try to get you to download some kind of screen sharing program or just some virus and hack you
How chad is your protagonist?
>>58807671Took the entire first arc to win his first real Pokemon battle, his crush's nickname for him is "coward", his starter Pokemon derives amusement from his embarrassment like a bratty kid brother, is physically the weakest of the entire hero cast, has been borderline SA'd/actually murdered by a grown woman, and squealed like a little girl when aforementioned crush touched his thigh.I don't like to boast, but he's pretty based.
>>58807671She's all this but in a good and positive way.
>>58807671My MC is rude, lazy, greedy, lecherous, self-centered, a gambling addict, a big eater, unethical, childish and an idiot. Not a SI, by the way
>>58807671He’s a champion who decided not to do his job due to overwork
>>58807732Impossible.
>>58807671Wol would be a chad if he didn't doubt himself as much as he does. He is as of now the greatest knight in the kingdom, possibly the strongest pokemon trainer on the continent, a hero prophesied to save the world, and a princess is after his dick. Garland was the real 'chad', personality wise and better than Wol in every way, until their final battle where Wol finally beat him to set their win record to 1 v 100+.Tobio could be a a chad if he wanted to be, but he doesn't wanna be.
>>58807755Why impossible?If chads can be good then so can gigastacies.
>>58807671stone cold truecel10000 foidmons slainhave you ever wondered why the starter pokemon all have slanted gender ratios? wonder no longer
>>58807671I don't think so. He is a 'tweaker' to say the least. Has uncontrollable (sometimes violent) outbursts, doesn't know where he is half the time and has numerous delusions/hallucinations swimming about in his reality-avoiding mind at all times.He loses most fights, grows to have a terrible temperament, a horrifying amount of envy and becomes excellent at pretending.
>>58807671>IanDefinitely not a Chad. Although I think overcoming suffering leads to Chad-dom. So he will be a gigachad by the time it’s done.
>>58807742He’s just like me.
>>58807742Gintoki in Pokémon sounds based and kino
More important question, how chad is your villain?
>>58808513So chad it almost integer overflows into peak femininity
>>58808513>villain>In Pokémon No such thing, they're all dindu noffings that only need to say "Yeah, sorry..." to get picked by legendaries
>>58808530yeah but he's talking about fanfic, and in fanfic we can have villains who kill people and DON'T say sorry afterwards.
>>58808532That would imply ESCALATION
>>58808532Yup its based
>>58808539Only a single rape? He won't qualify for something big like Zygarde, but maybe he'll get a Manaphy or Cresselia. So long as he says sorry of course.
>>58808525I ironically do have a femboy villain.
>>58808513Gonna assume multiverse-conquering warlord is the Chaddest of Chads.
>>58808513I already told you.
>>58801685Bit late, but I'll shill my shit.PMD. Lonely asshole absol learns to be slightly less lonely and slightly less of an asshole.https://archiveofourown.org/works/49048243/chapters/123742576There is also a sequel that has lesbian fish.
>>58808532>literally the theme of the fic is redemption and how anybody can be redeemed>the main villain will be given the chance to redeem himself for attempting to destroy the universe>his face when asked to say sorry
Returning to these threads after being away from /vp/ for a long time, and why do they read like some shonen slop general on /a/ now?
>>58808852poor nutrition and shattered cultivation
>>58808852because the majority of fics these days read like an isekai pseudo-shonen.
>>58808852>whyPokéfuckers went to nutriman's discord
>>58809077Nah I'm still here
>>58808852It’s either SI/Isekai/Shounen slop or lewd stuff that gets engagement. So extra props to the writers who write for the art of it, not the engagement.
>>58808852Post the name of a pokemon fic that's active and interesting, and actually about pokemon and not just porn/love drama using 'pokemon' as a template for some reason
>>58809230Pokémon is weird, it is a great setting where you can do almost anything but but at the same way too limited and, I don't know, safe and clean?
>>58809275true, it's one of the few series where you can romance a 10 year old and fans will be okay with it
>>58809275How can you do survival fic if pokemon are naturally intelligent, altruistic (debatable), and literally fucking everywhere?You don't need a Wilson if a palm tree can understand and communicate with you.
>>58809287People have been doing "what if Pokemon was dangerous" fics forever. Legends Arceus is pretty close to a canon one.
>>58809287Shadow aura that spreads like a plague through pokemon and can only be resisted/cured through bonding with humanity's weak null aura.This gives you feral bloodthirsty pokemon AND justifies humanity's existence. ez
>>58809293Yes, the physical danger is there but part of survival stories is the loneliness and what that does to a person.
>>58809287Just send MC to a Orre-like place where there are no wild Pokemon
>>58809287Send the human to a mystery dungeon wilderness where Pokémom are racist, hostile and discriminatory against them (but a few secretly fall for the BHC anyway).
>>58809275That doesn't stop anyone to write their grimdark SI power fantasy
Is Sabrina popular in harem and romance stuff? I only know about Hard Enough
FF1anon!!I SUMMON YOU!>(I hope it's readable.)>The hat is never mentioned in the story. and I added it as I found it amusing>This second pose was never worded in text and is my addition.
>>58810277I think if FFfag sees this, they're gonna have a heart attack.
>>58801360>Lara Laramie in 2025Nostalgia hits hard, like a horse's kick.
how do you feel when fics uses the Japanese names of the official characters?
>>58801360I remember wanting to write several fanfics but then real lofe happened and I forgot about it. I can't even remember in which folder I placed all my idea docs.
>>58810443I'm fine if it's something like Misty Kasumi or Brock Takeshi. If it's not, it's pretentious.God help me if you only use jap names for Pokemon, I'm not going to look up what an 'Iwark' or a 'Korobohshi' is.
>>58810443I don't like stuff with anime characters in general but if you're calling Ash Satoshi it's over for you.
>>58810443Feels overwrought, it'd only be funny for a brief gag or something, anything more is grognard shit.I did use a location's Japanese name once in a flashback to show it was taking place in the distant past.
>>58810509I mean, wouldn't that work as Satoshi being his real name and Ash his artistic name or whatever is called?
>>58810509I have the tism and it irks me a bit when characters have English names when they live in locations based on Japan like Kanto or Sinnoh
>>58810376He mustn’t die yet, he hasn’t read the Feraligatr fight
>>58810575Then I'm afraid we have incompatible tisms.
>>58810277Anon, please, don't cursive THAT hard...I feel like I magically became a zoomer. Are you a doctor IRL or something?
>>58810443If you’re writing in English for an English-speaking audience, just use the localized names.
>>58810443I like it when semi-realistic elements are used, such as cultural or linguistic differences.This is something that was lost with the dubbing of Pokemon BW Anime. Ash(Satoshi) is a Japanese boy in America, for the first time in a very distant land. Many characters used Japanglish in their vocabulary; the written language was different and Ash sometimes didn't read it correctly. Likewise, the use of honorifics was misused or deliberately ignored to represent that cultural barrier.Even children's literature like Harry Potter plays with this by using foreign characters like Victor and Fleur.
>>58810594
>>58810655YOU ROTTEN SON OF A wait a minute, I'm already gay!
>>58810663WHERE YA GOIN! Don't you ignore me! This is a perfectly good moment to turn your life straight!!
>>58810443I actually supplanted a canon game character into my fic, but since it doesn't take place in the mainline game universe I used his Japanese name so that it wouldn't be so obvious he is a canon character. He is the only canon character who I've used in the fic, so I consider it more of an easter egg for true god tier autists. He is just a minor side character in the story and a relatively obscure one in the games too. Though he probably does show up in the anime and manga at least once. It started as 'I need a name for this side character, lets look up inspiration' before going 'I will just steal the whole character and use his Japanese name so nobody will notice'.Also>>58810277
>>58810757You don't mind that some proportions are wrong?
>>58810655I'm getting black and blacker failing to read what's said after google. I can read the last line though.
>>58810924> "I just looked up on Gogle 'zoomer age' and apparently I classify as a zoomer."
>>58810443I use Japanese names AND honorifics too!But I keep the Pokemon names and attacks and cities and pretty much everything else in English!
It's excruciating waiting nine more days to update.
>>58810799As an artist myself I refuse to learn anatomy and proportions because I'm lazy and don't care about that kind of thing. It took me a moment to understand what the text was saying and what scene was being quoted but then I realized it and went 'kino'. I just had gotten off work and was in the parking lot when I saw it and am too exhausted from driving for half the day yesterday to properly express my appreciation.
reading your thread guys and its kinda comfy, much better than current oc thread
>>58811081>much better than current oc threadQRD?
>>58811102we just die out, last year or two it was much more lively there, now its kinda your nieche ig
>>58811111The fucked up by running out the archive anon for the sake of that one schizo with the OP mary sue loli.They deserve to rot.
>>58811116you, anon, got a familiar butthurt coming outta ur post
>>58810443Don't like that because it's confusing, but I especially hate people who call Blue Green or Green Blue, including the weebshits on this board. Just call them the way people are used to.
>>58811111>>58811116>Stupid thread drama kills a once comfy threadUnfortunate. I like to think we have a nice group of writebros and threadfics and it’s all pretty drama free since no one takes themselves too seriously.>>58811081Do you have any hypothetical adventures for your OC, anon? Assuming you have one.
>>58811159hoo boy. i do have a skeleton for large plot that includes time travel 4d chess and fujoshi girl as best girl there. i tried myself at writting, but im too short on words and unexperienced. and retardedalso there was this one fic i actually did my best, but the program i was using to write in died and killed a very good fight scene. damn it was a good one, i even impressed myself with how i pulled it off. it was a gym leader 2v2 fight where gym leader makes an unexpected combo move, like, you expect one obvious strategy, but instead he turned the tables with switching his pokemons targets and moves. that was fun one
>>58811206>but the program i was using to write in died and killed a very good fight sceneAbsolute pain, anon. I lost like 50 pages of an old fic (was too shy to post at that point kept writing it for some reason) and after re-writing one page I knew I wouldn't be able to match what my mind had believed the first draft to be. Didn't write for two months after that until I somehow found a way to open the file with a different program and I got a weird version of it but was able to recover the part of the story. Not sure I would've continued if I hadn't found it.>tried myself at writingBest way to practice is to write (many would say "read" as well). I got my first bits of writing experience doing short smut stories that, looking back are awful, but I learned a lot and it helped me become the obnoxious writefag I am today.
>>58811255i actually want to start a manga so i fancy myself with drawing panels time to time... also theres certain ppl on the internet i want to morally destroy by better writting. sometimes if i feel like it i can write a good greentext like this >>>/co/151984345
>>58811277Greentexts are good practice when you're first starting out as it gives you a quick way to get the meat and potatoes of a story/scene. They can start to become a crutch if you're not careful since it'll essentially "conclude" the story in your mind. Most greentexts I've written didn't end up turning into anything, oddly enough. When you flesh out a story you'll find neat little discoveries of things that (usually) make it better. Greentexts eventually become like TV dinners. They're quick, easy, and satisfying enough but not match for the real thing.>also theres certain ppl on the internet i want to morally destroy by better writtingWhatever motivates you, but holding grudges and getting specific about them often starts stupid, unnecessary drama. I find writing for myself and to make those sweet view counts go up is fulfilling enough but I'm an autist so whatever.
>>58811133I'm naming them Green 'Blue' Oak and Blue 'Leaf' Green in my fic to maximize my reader's confusion and anger.
>>58811206Being retarded is the first step of not being retarded. Give it another shot. Or don't, I'm not your mom.
New Prince of Po Town chapter, this time involving actual civilization for once! Ended up having to split this chapter up because someone very important deserves their own chapter.https://archiveofourown.org/works/66210784/chapters/201892406
>>58811534But does it contain Feraligatr? Or three scenes of Ian getting cucked into suicide?
>>58811591No Feraligatr T_T
WRITE!
>>58812159I think I'd rather pad out my worldbuilding docs and read other people's stories instead.Just recently finished detailing how megastones and keystones form, what makes them distinct yet still connected, and how megastones gain their specific affinities. Eta on any of this ever being included in a published chapter: NaN
>>58812208It was more a bump than anything. And anything fleshes out your world is a part of a writing process, so joke’s on you, you did exactly as was said.
>>58811081Glad to hear our little corner of /vp/ sparks joy. I'm only in this thread so I don't know what or how the rest of the board is doing.
>Casually reread a part I've written and already proofread.>See three typo's instantly.Is my brain subconsciously ragebaiying me?
>>58812409When you recently write something, your brain knows what the line is supposed to be. Once time has been applied you can proofread more thoroughly. Which is why FF1anon’s proofreading thing is a fucking godsend.
You will watch your 5K+ word update buried underneath stories on FFN that have less than 1,000 words per chapter that won’t be updating one month from now and you WILL be happy.
>>58812491Better start pumping out those 1k word pokenet reaction interludes to keep yourself up there.
What's the funniest/dumbest comment you've ever had? IF you get comments thst is.
>>58812522“Is Ash gonna be involved in this dark, gritty fanfic?” Or something of that nature.
Read that FGO streamer fic on QQ, they just finished Orleans. The Pokemon part is very distracting to say the least. Without it, it's just normal part 1 FGO which didn't get good until Camelot. I appreciate the alternative-ish route they were going for though.I feel a little bit of pity for actual streamers now because the chat in story is just an onslaught of the same unfunny joke repeated over and over. At least when I watch a stream irl, I can turn the chat off and it's not constantly in my face.Septem is next and I just know the Nero wank or bash is going to be insufferable. I don't hate Nero, I just think most fics don't know how to write her and they don't let her be serious. I think it's best if she dies in a ditch before the singularity's start before the writer embarrasses themselves and her.
>>58801360I know this doesn't matter because fics are a written medium, but does your MC have any visual detail that makes them stand out from others? Like an accessory they always wear or a unique hairstyle
>>58812208I got so many bullshit worldbuilding details for stuff that I have to remind myself to not pointlessly cram into the story. Sometimes its way better to leave that stuff unmentioned directly and to just have it be implied. One of the great successes of the first Harry Potter book was how you get a tiny sliver of the wider wizarding world with Diagon Alley (which my dumb ass never understood was a pun until literally this exact moment). It doesn't explain anything beyond what is immediately nescessary, but there are details and lines that imply so much more is going on in the world that your mind sticks there and wonders about them. That wonder, the lingering curiosity that keeps readers hooked, is what hidden world building is great for. Just you knowing these details without explaining them informs your writing in a way that readers will unknowingly pick up on.
>>58812491Buried? Hah. The mountain of trash simply sits upon my shoulders as I stand unphased. My work is a treasure. Those lucky and determined enough to find it are all I need.
>>58812783I don't think Harry Potter is the best example considering how trash its worldbuilding actually is if you squint your eyes even a little bit. We don't know the details because they don't exist, and if JKR tried to expand on them even slightly it would all come apart at the seams.
>>58812686Wol has wild and messy hair that gets mentioned sometimes, meant to invoke the absolute mane on the FF1 sprite. The actual color of his hair (and all the characters actually) is left unmentioned because each remake and reboot of FF1 decides to arbitrarily change characters hair colors. Generic Warrior has red, brown, or white depending on the version, and Sarah has been blonde, green, or pink.
>>58812793Thats why I mentioned the first book specifically, when it was all simple implications that hadn't been built upon yet. Its the application of what little world building there is that is good rather than the world building itself. It makes the reader feel like they've just entered a vast world that they know little about just like the protagonist.
>>58812522>>58812812FF1anon, I love you, but I'm sorry. When you called/thought some parts of the schizo section German I had to laugh. There were only three short lines of German in that entire shitshow.(It was funny, not dumb.)
what are some schemes to earn money in Pokemon world? I'm going to have my MC catch a Shuckle so he can sell its juice
>>58813050You don't need money, just catch a few foodmons, a couple plant types and a water type and you'll be a self sustaining garden that can hobo around the world without paying for food or lodging
>>58813074it seem you don't get it, my MC wants money because he loves money
How do you like your love interests?
>>58813612Usually I like a tragic one involving a breakup and then the MC gets with the endgame love interest.
>>58813612childhood friends, even if they always lose
>>58813612Rival. Whoever wins tops.
>>58813308>Meowth replaced by Persian in his fantasiesIt's Da Boss all over again.
>>58813612Breedable.
>>58813612Non existent or a pokemon.
>>58813612With their own development independent of the other half of the romance.
>>58814224Based
>>58803293Orden Aire's Slowbro can talk. And i'm always under the assumption that all legendary Pokémon can talk. They either just choose not to because 9 times out of ten they don't find humans worth talking to or they're the equivalent to a new born baby in age like terrapagos.
>>58807671Orden Aire wins and he losses some, sometimes he takes it in stride. Other times he throw himself off a cliff of rage.>>58808513I haven't introduced her yet. And it will be a long time before i do. For now all i'll say about her is that can and will cheat to get her way.
>>58813612Hopefully as not a prop. Sometimes you see love interests become less relevant or interesting once they fuck the MC or whatever, and that’s dull as fuck. Anyway I like reverse corruption.
>Spice and Fox got added to the threadfic collectionI'll have to check it out. PoPT's muse has me by the balls right now (I'm still like not even halfway through reading PokeNormal) and I wanna check out Crazed Creation after that. But I'll pop in and check it out when I can, anon.
>Sick all day>Can't get my head clear enough to write OR readsave meeee
Vermilion PD is pretty cool.
>>58814742Crossover episode with PokeNormal when?
>>58814679I really like how human the characters are in Spicy Fox
>>58815126So I bet I’ll like it then.
>>58814730What's the matter, are your days numbered?(Seriously, hope it gets better man.)
>>58814742thanks bro I was waiting to see if someone would read it
>finally get around to playing ZA and DLC>ZA's DLC entire plot relies on the power of NUTRITIONHoopa needs to eat donuts to use its powers, and at the end of the DLC it needs to eat a super powerful donut made with hyperspace berries and mega energyAlways validated. Always on top.Foxfucker patreonfags, I know at least one of you paypiggy cucks are in here. You need to tell that faggot to make his MC put megastone shavings in his pokemon's diets NOW. How can he be nutritionmaxing if he's not dosing mega stones? WEAK.
>>58814745is that by another anon from these threads?
>>58814679I recommend reading FF1anon's Biomon Championship Tournament before CC. It's a one-shot, a quick peek into a bloody dreary life of Ryukuro.
>>58815602Isn't that what Mega Fug did? He macrodosed on mega meteors
>>58815602I had a chuckle when I first seen it, but it's Hoopa that is getting the NUTRITION, not the trainer's pokemon, so it's not the same thing.
>>58816096It was heavily implied at least, given the possibility of unreliable storytellers since all that shit happened off screen. But now we have hard on screen evidence that mega nutrition is a way.
How NUTRITIOUS would skipping the middleman and eating Yveltal or Xerneas flesh be? They're the ones that make the Mega juice.
>>58816115Like how, simultaneously in theory and reality, eating uranium ore and drinking oil gives you more than enough calories to last a lifetime.
>>58816122Gotta work your way up to it. Can't just hand a baby a protein drink and inject them with 500mg of silverback gorilla testosterone
>>58815645Yes, with the MC being basically a Pokémon world version of a paranormal detective. Also the guy’s office is in Celadon which was the main idea behind a “crossover.” From the first paragraph I read on Vermillion PD it seemed like it had a very different tone than PokeNornal though.>>58815544It can take a while for us to get around to things. Some of us are balls deep in writing, reading stuff, or actual IRL stuff. FFN can also be a frustrating site to start off when it comes to reader engagement at the start (or in general desu).>>58815726CC seems like such an off the wall premise I’m sure I was gonna ask where the inspiration came from. I’ll have to look into it.
>>58815602I don't think donut calories count as good nutrition though
>>58816165Right, right. Next you'll tell us Soda Pop isn't actually a healthier choice than Fresh Water or a literal healing Potion.
>>58816164>It can take a while for us to get around to things. Some of us are balls deep in writing, reading stuff, or actual IRL stuff. FFN can also be a frustrating site to start off when it comes to reader engagement at the start (or in general desu).I get it, i was thinking it seemed like it would be hard to get anyone to read a fan fiction in general because there are tons of them
Still can't believe Diantha is canon used goods
I like it when the MC is strong, but everyone else they're competing against also is, and if the MC slips up or gets complacent even once, they will be overtaken, so they use this as their motivation to get stronger, which makes everyone else motivated to keep getting stronger to catch up to them.It's no fun when the MC is so ridiculously ahead of everyone there's no chance for anyone no matter who to catch up. It's even worse when the story tries to make us pretend they're actually competition but in reality they're just jobbers to wank the MC as da stwongest.At least that is what I believe.
>>58816217The DP and XY anime did something similar iirc
>>58816217I can accept da best and strongest as an mc if the story isn’t meant to focus on that.
>>58808532I-Impossible!
>>58808539Huh, this actually made me wonder.Canon doesn't of course, but do fanfics talk about Pokémon genitals?
>>58816571how new are you?
>>58816571in smut? all the time
>>58813612Not endlessly embarrassed by the idea of love, for one
Flustered Saberfag are we fucking back dude?Waiting and hoping paid off?
>>58816164>CC seems like such an off the wall premise I’m sure I was gonna ask where the inspiration came from.I think FF!anon and I had coincidentally come up with the ideas of our respective fics independant of eachother and I don't think either really influenced the other (although FF1anon did read some other anons way back then talking about my fic and maybe(?) took some inspiration? But he had already written Biomon by then so personally doubt it.)CC and Biomon have a few similarities; dragon protagonists with voices in their heads, a generally violent tone and horrific body horror. But they are ultimately quite different.Biomon is a very well written one-shot of a miserable world told from the perspective of an incredibly bloody Pokemon tournament. It doesn't waste time, never let's go of the expertly crafted atmosphere and manages to feel complete in spite of its snapshot nature, (I personally consider it as a work of art the best of what I've read of him. Though I've yet to read PokeNormal and the Strongest.)CC is quite simply a stream of thoughts which at itmes are simply unreadable, eventually there will be many perspectives of characters (outside of Vahnzimmig but also from the 'relevancy' of the plot). Sometimes time is wasted on pointless internal discussions, the tone can change from 'comfy' to pretty violent and tends to go on and on. (This is my very first fic so don't get your hopes up.)I do consider that reading Biomon before CC is actually a pretty good segue into my schizofic. They're not the same, but got similar points.And not to overload you, but do give Crystal Light some love too. (When you find the time that is, which unfortunately comes in scarce supply.)
Would Pokemon champion teams be widely recognized? If I have a champion attempting to vacation in another region while disguising themselves, would they need to use a different team? Would a disguised Red’s Pikachu be instantly recognizable? Would his Charizard be recognizable?
>>58816970I'll have to check out Biomon, and yeah, I was definitely going to get to Crystal Light. I think it's the fic that's most "up my alley" so to speak (more conventional trainer/battle focused fic). A lot of my free leisure time is dedicated to PoPT, especially since I'm in a period with little to no writer's block. I think that'll change with me for the chapter after the one I'm currently working on.
>>58816987I'm sure regional champions have their own merchandise and paraphernalia of them and their pokemon, just like Canari has her room full of shit featuring her
>>58817078>be a champion>want to take a vacation from your paperwork or whatever>go to another region>get swamped by paparazzi and retards who want to see your super powerful pokemonFUCK
>>58817139just reduce your aura input so people can't sense you
>>58817139Just violently murder them and slam them against the pavement and have your Pokémon slowly maul them as would be well within your legal rights when visiting another region as the military leader of your nation, given any legal action towards you could ESCALATE into a global conflict.
>>58817139>>58817152>Not flaring your aura so that only people near your level or stronger can approach youWeak faggot
>Tfw so much misdirection the readers won't catch the obvious hints I'm leavingAnyone who re-reads my garbage this time next year will fucking lose it.
>>58817411>Assuming they will reread your shitfic.
>>58816987By the nature of pokemon being species, unless its a unique mon in some way its doubtful that anybody would think twice about it unless they run into a super fan of theirs. I mean, if a guy has a Pikachu and Charizard on his team he's more likely to be considered inspired by it. Kind of like how a lot of rookie heroes in My Hero Academia base their supersonas on heroes from previous generations.
>>58817484I also imagine minute details of the mon’s physical appearance like a scar or discoloring would be difficult to pick up in a pitched battle recording, so you could say “really, I think my Charizard is more orange” or something.
>>58817411Man fuck this >>58817414 guyI'll reread your shitfic anon.
>>58817484I wonder if some Pokemon end up with inferiority complexes, specially so if they're battle Pokemon.Like, imagine being a Gible who wants to become the strongest and knowing no matter what you'll never be able to reach Cynthia's Garchomp peak.Or worse, being a Pichu or Pikachu. Even the anime makes a point to say that Ash's Pikachu is an absolute and total abnormality, and don't give me that crap about how "any Pokemon can be strong under anime logic" because each and one time such a thing happens a similar comment is made, so imagine being a rat inspired by Red's Pikachu and figuring out that you'll never reach such heights simply because you weren't a genetic freak. Inspiration becoming resentment and envy.In that regard, I always wonder what Alder's current Volcarona feels like considering that, in a way, it is a "replacement" to Alder's original Volcarona. Pikachu getting jealous of Riolu episode in shitneys is fucking retarded because of how off character it is but thinking about it I feel like such a thing could be quite common among people's teams. Knowing you're not the "ace", knowing you will never have a bond as close with your trainer just because you weren't their starter, or starters getting jealous of their other team members.Team dynamics are a really underexplored topic imo.
>>58816959I'm pretty curious to see where it's all going, neat to see Azrael involved. Not really certain what they're aiming for with the incompleteness and Olga's deal.Sorry it took me so long to reply I've been dying of the flu all day and been slipping in and out of consciousness.>>58817411It's entirely too much fun reading reviews seeing who's caught onto what so far.
>>58817785That's why I try to have each mon on a team actively interact with each of the others and form their own unique relationship. The overleveled trade mon lords over everybody else on the team, trainer included, except for the support mon who is always backing them up in battle. The support mon is slightly traumatized from the super effective attack from the mon that fought them during the capture battle, and said mon starts to feel really guilty about it. The wild brawler mon and the slow and steady tank mon start to develop a kinship and learn from each other since they both fight on the front lines together. There's an endless amount of stuff like that to explore.
>>58817805We all knew it was gonna continue, the killer was the how and the utter lack of communication and uncertainty until now.The game pretty much said "this is a glorified post-game, don't think too hard about it" and with the current set-up basically being someone creating a fanfic for infinite adventures™, going back to reset whenever ESO does happen is very well still on the menu. Hopekeks shouldn't get too cocky but my gut tells me that after this ends the memories of everyone will remain this time.Personally, I went all in on BBcoin. Beast BB aka BBB or Nyarly BB (True) would be hilarious.
>>58817805Brother the thread is slow enough that you could've replied a week later and it would've been fine.>>58817813I'm just happy that muh Olga gets to actually hang out with us.
>>58817649Any decent re-read of PoPT will be fun after arc 6. That’s where most of the foreshadowed Easter eggs are mostly figured out besides the ultimate villains>>58817805Commenter guessed my twist within five minutes of me posting the first chapter heavily hinting at it and I was a little butthurt. But Thunder’s dope AF and is basically the only one following the hints
>>58817809Which fic is yours?
>>58816164>Yes, with the MC being basically a Pokémon world version of a paranormal detective. Also the guy’s office is in Celadon which was the main idea behind a “crossover.” That sounds like crossover would be cool honestly. I need to read that.
>>58817785>Even the anime makes a point to say that Ash's Pikachu is an absolute and total abnormality,Yeah but to be fair that only really happened after getting the shit kicked multiple times
>>58817785>you'll never reach such heights simply because you weren't a genetic freakThen just collect bottle caps and hyper train your mons so they can be genetic freaks too
>>58817905(this is going to be kind of long and split into multiple posts but I want to respond to the idea of a crossover)so far I read the first three chapters of PokeNormal, it's a fun and interesting world and I'm going to keep reading it. the thing about a crossover (since an anon mentioned it, not like it was planned or anything or that the author of PokeNormal would agree, but just thinking about if something like that theoretically happened) is the timelines don't really line up. In Vermilion PD I tried to make the world adhere to the gen 1 games, including Pokemon Yellow (Officer Jenny exists) and tried to make it like it was taking place in that world as much as I could, but a little bigger than just the literal exact maps and layouts from the games when necessary (warehouse district in Vermilion, roads existing, etc, which you wouldn't see in the game. but more like being in that world so there's a bit more than just what you see on the maps in the 8-bit game boy game. instead of just "what you see in RBY is strictly what you get in the story." so they don't walk for a minute and they're all the way across Vermilion as I describe literally the exact map from the game and there's more to explore. so it's less like describing the game and more like being in it.)and also taking place during the events of gen 1 like Red is on his Pokemon journey at the same time and the events in the story are things that could possibly be happening off screen/in the background in this world during that same time.
>>58818224 (2/4)that's why the kid from Pallet Town is obviously implied to be Red and he makes little cameos/walks by/etc. things that could have been happening but invisible in the game if that makes sense, like there was more going on that wasn't shown in the game. although Red (and even Blue and other characters) could possibly have larger roles in the story later on, I would make it things that might happen that don't affect the trajectory of the game, thinking about what happens when a player is actually playing a gen 1 game. so it wouldn't change the overall plot of the game, but scenes that could have possibly happened and not been shown or whatever. so if Red interacts with Rookie and Jenny in a bigger way later on, it feels more like something that could have plausibly happened and just not have been focused on as part of the main storyline or effecting/changing the overall plot/events, as if the game wasn't showing everything. basically the world of Pokemon gen 1 games but bigger and having more of it.that's why there were kind of subtle decisions like Pokemon's genders never being revealed, just trying to hammer it in more that the story is trying to follow the rules of that game more because Pokemon genders didn't exist yet (besides nidoran.)
>>58818226 (3/4)there are a few other subtle hints to support that idea like Poke Balls not having a red light come out like the anime or anything like that. just to get it closer to the feeling of being in the world of specifically the gen 1 games, not the anime (even though Yellow does take things from the anime) or the game series in general, without making it so obvious and blatantly saying "This takes place in the world of Pokemon gen 1 games btw" in the story. If Yellow is included he should have Pikachu as a starter, but the Pikachu he does have hangs out beside him like Yellow, and he has a Wartortle by the time he reached Vermilion which implies he chose Squirtle as a starter so he doesn't have to get one from Officer Jenny. so kind of like combining some of the logic of the gen 1 games together.so in PokeNormal from what I read so far, although it does take place in Kanto like Vermilion PD, a lot of later stuff is mentioned like Poochyena, Komala, Alolan Raticate, Rotom phones, etc. I'm definitely not saying that's a bad thing, just if there were a crossover it would really break the rules I've been trying to follow for the world, especially with Poochyena being a main character.It would definitely be interesting though with Jenny and Rookie who act like more serious characters linking with Tobio who is more goofy, and the police officers + detective roles fit together, it sounds like a fun dynamic/interaction. since PokeNormal does deal with paranormal and stuff like that, maybe Tobio could be sent back in time or something if I had to try to force it. but still, him being from a world that has more than RBY just existing kind of also breaks the "Mostly only everything in RBY" exists rule because in that world none of the later stuff even exists at all or is thought of as a possibility yet.
>>58818228 (4/4)plus I should probably flesh out the world and characters more in additional parts rather than a cross over after just one part or too early on. so even if something like that did happen, it would probably fit best after all of the events of the game are completed and more like a non-canon+bonus/post-game situation after the entire story is complete, so it wouldn't be something that would happen any time soon. but it is a fun idea and I'm glad I know about PokeNormal now and started reading it.and sorry this explanation was like an entire chapter of a fic
>>58813612Ideally on ma dick
>>58818079Dunsparce
>>58817363Bro thinks he's got Conquerors Aura.
>>58817848Crystal Light
>>58818230PokeNormal anon here, sounds pretty cool and honestly shares a lot of philosophy I have with PN in general. I started PN as an exploration of how the essence of Gen 1 and its weird and mysterious world has been lost in the current generation of games. The things that are ignored because they don't make sense in the modern pokemon setting, like the shrine in the Celadon apartments that was removed in the US and later remakes. Or how ghost pokemon used to be unknown without a Silph Scope, how Erika was theorized to be a ghost type trainer based on her original sprite have a lot of spiritual theming that was removed. And it includes old pieces of the fandom that were once huge and are now little more than trivia like the PokeGods. So your exploration of the era that PN is calling back too does hold plenty of merit for a crossover.Tell you what. If you want you have full permission to include Tobio as a kid in your fic sometime. He was a childish street punk unaffiliated with Team Rocket and a bit more clever than the average delinquent. He didn't have Poochyena until later in his adult life (gen 3 pokemon hadn't been 'discovered' in Kanto by then in my timeline) so he is running around without pokemon. Just keep the age vague, don't put him in jail for an extended period of time, and I'll give you free reign to do whatever you want with him. Don't be afraid about making mistakes, just go with whatever your gut tells you and It'll be cool to read. Of course don't feel obligated to, but if you ever feel like it you've got a blank check on the idea.
>>58818609wow based, awesome ideas and very well thought-out/intriguing attention to detail with the shrine and everything else. a crossover could actually fit in perfectly then. thanks a lot man for the info and blessing on it. I'll definitely have to have something like that at some point. already starting to think of some ideas actually.
evil always looms
>>58818976Rotom buttplug
>>58819005would you buy a Rotom fleshlight that had feelings and could think?
>>58818976Why can't they just leave Rotom alone?
>>58819131free labor
Is it worth skimming women’s romance novels to learn how to write romance? Or am I insane for thinking I should do so?
>>58819271then you'll write it like a woman but if that's what you're going for then I guess it could help
>>58819271As someone who used to write them, a wider knowledge base is always good to draw from but keep in mind it shouldn't be your sole blueprint, it's only one of many ways to write romance.
>>58819271Are you saying battle shonen superficial romance knowledge isn't enough?
>>58819322All that’s gonna teach you is to flash forward past the entire romance to the part where they’re married with children in the finale.
>>58819271Read villainess isekai slop, you will find everything there>Grooming >Used goods>Toxic romance >Rape>Violent men that for some fucking reason are seen as "they care about me" while insulting the girl
>>58819334Modern shonen don't even do that anymore, see MHA
>>58819384Honestly in nearly all cases they should do even less than that. Shounen romance always feels tacked on and fans ship the characters without it anyway
>Vermilion PD got a 'review'.>"Your storytelling is super visual and engaging, and I could totally imagine it as a comic. I'm a commission artist and would love the chance to work on a comic adaptation if that's something you’d ever be interested in.">The account was created like two days ago.Lmao, how does that make you FEEL VPDanon?
>>58819286>>58819292So what are men’s romance novels like? Do they even exist?
>>58819608Those are just called novels.
>>58819608Men's romance is when they get a cheat power or they're secretly the STRONGEST after being labeled the WEAKEST and the woman (or an entire harem) fawns over the man and shuts the fuck up when not spoken to
>>58819342>Grooming>Toxic romance>Violent men that for some fucking reason are seen as "they care about me" while insulting the girlSilver SI written by a woman confirmed?
>>58819980Who’s Silver’s toxic romance with? My money’s on Leaf or Lyra
>>58819980As someone who has read villainess isekai slop I can tell you that SI-LVER is basically a Duke of the North™ but as a MC instead of the love interest
>>58820008Janine
>>58819595I feel like that's probably a bot because it's pretty vague and mentions commission plus a new account kek
>>58820060Don't worry when I find the time I'll post a review and try to give you my thoughts, just work gets in the way of thinking and articulating my thoughts well.Just know, I loved the atmosphere, the tension mixed with the competency of Rookie and Jenny. Seriously an interesting and cool look at law enforcement in Pokémon.
>>58820078hell yeah thanks a lot! don't worry about writing a review if you're busy, I appreciate just that post a lot. but obviously if you want to post a review and say more I'd love to hear more about what you think. it actually makes me pretty happy just hearing you liked it and makes it feel like it was worth the time spent on it. but of course I am definitely interested in hearing people's thoughts on it but no pressure. and seriously thanks again just for taking the time to even read it.
>>58820023>Toxic romance>Poison type trainerI really shouldn’t chuckle at that but I will anyways.
>>58818569>crossover with a game I've never playedThat's a wall to climb but I'll put it on the list just for actually giving your Pokemon personalities and relationships.
>>58820218I've written it more as 'Fantasy Pokemon' than anything. Not being a fan of Final Fantasy also means you get to enjoy the 'snape kills dumbledore' level of well known plot twists without already knowing what they are.
>>58820313That's good to hearI actually do know about the situation with Garland, thanks to a Nethack variant that has an FFI zone
Now that I think about it, I haven't been in here long enough to know or see if it was asked beforehand, FF1 is Crystal Light going to use anything from Stranger of Paradise?
>>58820333Lufenians said they forgot all the bad shit they did and said sorry, then they were picked by Arceus to be the guardians of the world because evil people don't exist in Pokémon
>>58820333I haven't played Stranger of Paradise, and don't want to spoil it for myself, and wasn't around for memes when it was released. So no, not intentionally. It would be funny as hell if somebody said "I'm here to kill Mewtwo" but it would absolutely destroy any tension in the story.
So when should a human get involved in a fight? Not official battles of course but real ones against grunts and such
>>58820446When it looks like regular theft? Probably no.Their pokemon being stolen? I wouldn't consider them good trainers if the answer was anything but yes.Person themselves being threatened, either directly or indirectly via the world being destroyed? They'd be a fool or a coward to not to at least try throwing their weight around.
>>58820446Never. The franchise is called Pokemon, not Kung Fu Action Humans.
Oh no no no no
>>58820446When they feel like. Man feel the craving for battle just like pokemon do.
>>58820493>Kung Fu Action Human immediately shoved to the background by a Pokemon battleI accept your concessionMy serious opinion on this is that I don't mind if your trainer can throw down a little but if you want them to be the cooleriest and toughest you gotta turn them into a Pokemon.
>>58820493What if a single team plasma grunt had carried a gun
>>58820540Didn't Ghetsis have some gadget to stop people from using pokéballs?
>>58820540What if a single team plasma Pokemon had carried a gun?
>>58820923What if a single team plasma Honedge transplanted its crystal into and became a gun?Would Unova recognize it as a new species or continue to mispecies it as a Honedge?Would the Gunshoot be able to breed or is its womb barren?
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