If no, then why is there no Stellar Plate?
>>58802158Stellar-"type" is unnatural, demonic, and an affront to the Original One.
>>58802158Stellar isn't one of the original types repurposed from the Defeated Giants and turned into a primordial piece of creation.Stellar was something Terapagos itself invented when it needed to achieve the power necessary to prevent death and extinction, hence why no Pokemon can have it as a natural type that doesn't require Terastailization, including Terapagos itself.
Arceus's base form should've been retconned to stellar its retarded that the first 'composite' type is exclusive to Terapagos when Arceus is the original type shifter. At the very least Arceus should have a tera form, same goes for Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina
>>58802207why would Arceus be dependent on something that is purely Terapagos?
>>58802158Reminder that Cynthia have absolutely nothing to do with Arceus and you are retarded if you think she does
>>58802207Arceus needing a form doesn't work on a fundamental level, it's specifically a curated fraction of the full God's power, with no intentions to give more or less beyond the baseline of that manifestation.
Stellar exists due to the Terastall phenomenon. It's not a real type, rather an invention of Terapagos
It's just weird how despite bring primordial in nature the pokemon types are represented in terra forms with modern analogs like fountains and candelabras
>>58802220They could retcon the origins of terastalization the same way they retconned megas for ORAS
>>58802223besides being Aus's human avatar on earth*
>>58802223>Cynthia have absolutely nothing to do with ArceusWell thats just a lieshe presides over the HGSS Sinjoh eventshe meets/sees Arceus in the ashnime (JN special)and is the very first arc suit wielder in Masters (and this plotline is still ongoing - the last hint was that Cynthia will be key to mending Arceus and Giratinas relationship..)
>>58802248>event they could have used any character for but chose Cynthia because he's a Sinnoh history nerd>only canon to the ashnime continuity>noncanon fanwank that has no canonical bearing on the rest of the franchise (Arceus and Giratina already mended their relationship in PLA by virtue of Arceus' Chosen humbling Giratina and helping it remember its true purpose as a guardian)
>>58802259>"nothing is canon!!">coping this hard>Arceus and Giratina already mended their relationship in PLA by virtue of Arceus' Chosen humbling Giratina and helping it remember its true purpose as a guardian.. until Volo came back again in Masters story and made Giratina "relapse"
>>58802267Again, noncanon fanwank that has no canonical bearing on the rest of the franchise.If Master SEX was canon, Pasio and the stories that take place in it would be mentioned by characters in other games. If Giratina's relapse was canon, then there would be literally no point to having the character development in PLA because it can just be undone in an instant, despite the fact Platinum was retroactively shown to be proof of Giratina's character development.
>pokemon>canonkek
>>58802286Like it or not, Pokemon does have a true canon that we know exists definitively thanks to the Teraleak, it's GameFreak's internal bible they use to determine how they should design the mainline games and worldbuild, especially as it regards the developing history of the world, callbacks to past regions, characters and events, and maintaining some sense of consistency internally.
>>58802227But all types come from the Giants. Arceus can become all types, including Stellar. This would imply that Stellar was a type at the beginning of time.there should have been a stellar giant and a stellar plate if Arceus killed him.
>>58802295>Teraleak>Internal Bible>There are 7 completely different origin myths that completely contradict eachother.
>>58802307Those are documents that aren't part of the hard confirmed bible. The mythos that IS true is that Arceus defeated Primordial Giants, and then used their power in the process of creating the universe.
>>58802300Arceus can only become Stellar if you change its Tera Type using Stellar Shards, which are byproducts of Terapagos, and then Terastalize it. It's not a type it can achieve naturally without Terastal, because it isn't one of the natural types.Thus, there is no Stellar Giant. There is no Stellar Plate. You're inventing something that does not exist because Stellar isn't a natural type.
>>58802307Play the fucking games you retarded little monkey.
>>58802317So Terapagos makes pokemon able to change into EVERY SINGLE PRIMORDIAL TYPE except for one that is beyond even God herself? Smells like bullshit.
>>58802325none of this has anything to do with the teraleak concepts that didn't make it into the game because they are noncanon.
>>58802349Stellar isn't a type above God, it's a sham type Terapagos invented during its desperate bid for survival against impossible odds.Again, it isn't a true type. No Pokemon can have it naturally, including Terapagos itself, who can't harness Stellar power without using the gimmick it invented.Without Terastal, it's just another Normal Type, and the only reason it has Terastal is because Arceus fated the Terapagos species to face a near-extinction event, and chose one specific Terapagos to awaken to previously-unknowable potential in order to survive the scenario.
>>58802356>Flame Plate: "The power of defeated giants infuses this plate."Direct confirmation that the mythos about Arceus fighting Primordial Giants, winning, and then using their power to create the universe by using their elements as the primordial blueprints of the universe is the true mythos.Read, nigga, READ.
>>58802241Nice headcanon retard, praise her all you want, she still wouldn't want anything to do with you
>>58802364>Sham TypeIts a pretty good type. No weaknesses and nothing resists it is pretty good. I'd say stellar is even superior to Arceus' purely offensive "Legend Plate' typing.This little turtle is out here making new, better types better than the primordial giants and God. Wild.
>>58802248>>she presides over the HGSS Sinjoh event>she meets/sees Arceus in the ashnime (JN special)>and is the very first arc suit wielder in Masters (and this plotline is still ongoing - the last hint was that Cynthia will be key to mending Arceus and Giratinas relationship..)GODthia
>>58802356Except the teraleak concepts that got regurgitated for the games dumbfuck.>the original one breathed alone before the universe came -Arceus emerged from its Egg to begin creation>the power of defeated giants infuses this Plate/the powers of Plates are shared between all Pokémon - Arceus fought and defeated gigantic personifications of the Elements>two beings of Time and Space set free from the Original One - Arceus creates Dialga and Palkia to regulate the universeThe "non-canon" shit is the bullshit spewed by hoennnig secondaries SEETHING regicuck was JUST a third-rate trio master, subservient and irrelevant to the greater mysteries of the pokémon universe and screaming anything that doesn't match their sissy bitch headcanon is wrong..I will say, as an oldfag who'd participated in the lore discussions regarding Arceus et al when /vp/ first opened, teraleak was one big fat confirmation of everything we'd collectively decided as a board. Fuck off back to discord with the rest of your zoomer peers, we don't need you here.
>>58802394>no weaknesses and resistsUntrue. Not only does Stellar Tera Blast do super effective damage to Terastalized Pokemon (including Stellar Teras), therefore meaning Stellar itself DOES have a weakness, Stellar is just an overlay type, because again, it's not a real type.A Stellar Charizard will still be doubly weak to Rocks, because Stellar didn't get rid of any type interactions, it just overlayed itself over Charizard's Fire/Flying and gave it the ability to do extra damage once per type (or always in a place with high Tera Energy Density, like Raid Dens).Terapagos is the very same way. Even in Stellar form, it takes super effective damage from Fighting moves.
>All the unnecessary praising ITTKek, Cynthia isn't going to fuck you you know
>>58802371Don't forget the note in teraleak that stressed the giants weren't pokémon. Only way for everything to happen per the Plates AND adhere to teraleak is if the giants were embodiments of the elements that give pokémon their Type powers.
>>58802248>she presides over the HGSS Sinjoh event>she meets/sees Arceus in the ashnime (JN special)>and is the very first arc suit wielder in Masters (and this plotline is still ongoing - the last hint was that Cynthia will be key to mending Arceus and Giratinas relationship..)she wonshaun lost
>>58802416>The "non-canon" shit is the bullshit spewed by hoennnig secondaries SEETHING regicuck was JUST a third-rate trio master, subservient and irrelevant to the greater mysteries of the pokémon universe and screaming anything that doesn't match their sissy bitch headcanon is wrong..Jesus christ anon, how much can one shitposter make you seethe? Is the Regifag in the room with us right now?>I will say, as an oldfagStopped reading there, appeal to authority on fucking 4chan, genuine mental illness. Seek help anon. You might be getting alzheimers.
>we'd collectively decided as a boardTerminally online ahh 40 year old thinks he the president of /vp/.
>>58802416
>>58802277>>58802259>D-Doesn't count!Cope and seethe.
>>58802416boomerfag post
>>58802416Why not just namefag if you're so important and are the wise elder of the pokemon community? How else will we know who participated in the infallible ecumenical council of /vp/ throughout the ages?
>>58802484>ahhKnee-bending ass for brains faggot.
>>58802601If Master SEX was canon, surely you'd think Korrina in LZA would have mentioned that her journey as Mega Evolution Successor led her to Pasio, where she encountered many powerful Mega Evolutions and grasped a better understanding of how trainers and Pokemon come together to highlight the positives of the phenomenon. It would have been the perfect plug for it, because it'd been 5 years offscreen taking up the mantle and becoming seasoned enough in understanding Mega Evolution to recognize Primal Reversion.
>>58802624Unc you can't hurt my feelings, its the internet. Go tell the whole parliment of /vp/ oldhead mr. President. I'm shaking in my heavy-duty boots.
>>58802601based
>>58802672Ignore the autist and let him seethe, eventually he will realize his headcanons are just that, headcanons and he will move on, hopefully
>>58802416>We'd collectively decided as a boardThis motherfucker can't be real.
>>58802416RENT FREEENTFREE
>>58802416Who are smilay adn birthlee? who are daabu, saan, and gordon?who is tex?
>>58802473>"n-no, YOU mad" said the child throwing a wobbly about "non-canon"development materials which ultimately were proved canonicalUh-huh.>>58802546Yeah kid, we, the non-discord, non-retarded element of /vp/. Don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out. Bye!>>58802620Because I wasn't raised by the internet to need constant validation thus don't see the point in namefagging in a thread that does not require a name to post under. It's an age thing, you wouldn't understand because all you know is a world with the internet.>>58802781Were you here in 2010 when we talked about this shit? I'll admit, not everyone back then cared (most were there because we were allowed to post port) but in the treads where loretists hung out, what Teraleak revealed WAS what had been accepted as most correct (eg Arceus WAS God and the universe was shaped to favour humans and pokémon working together in concert. That they even had Arceus say as much in-game in L: A along with confirming it as God of the pokéverse was the cherry on top). But again, if you were on habo penguin at the time, of course you wouldn't know what we discussed back then, in amongst the porn, ERP and erotic fiction threads.
>>58802810Yeah, you babbies really do seem to let random faceless twats on the internet trigger you so badly. Almost as if what I say hits too near the knuckle for comfort and your gen NEEDS to vent some emotions to handle it.
>>58802158Terapagos warps reality based on the desires of it/people close to it. At some point it made the terastal phenomenon and the stellar type, but it had no reason to make a stellar plate
>>58802867Arceus should smash terapagos into the stellar plate then
>>58802829>Local prostate exam patient lists off his decades internet accolades on a Bosnian Squirrel Trapping ForumSurreal that lolcows like you still exist.
>>58802829>Don't you remember this lore thread from 16 years ago!?What in the goddamn hell are you saying nigga?
>>58802829>we>I>we>I'll>Loretists>we
>>58802829You live here or something?
>>58802158I hadn't even noticed this thread. But it's becoming an obsession; as soon as one is closed, another one is created. Besides that, Stellar isn't a type in the strictest sense. It doesn't have any type affinity and isn't naturally worn.Stellar seems to be a kind of composite of all existing types, due to the crown with all the symbols, and the fact that it can have STAB on any type. It's also primarily a counter to Terastal itself. Symbolically, Legends Plate is somewhat similar because it can adopt any type with it, even if it's not exactly the same.
>>58802829We've got a real e-celeb here gatekeeping fucking pokemon lore to his personal preference, wild.
>>58802867normally legendary pokemon have themes to their power but Terapagos does it all.- Time Travel- Dimension shifting- All-Elemental- New Element creation- Meteor summoning
>>58803186Never expected to see fesh pince posting outside of /v/
>>58802158Stellar Terapagos > legend plate arceus
>>58802364>it's a sham type Terapagos invented during its desperate bid for survival against impossible odds.That implies Terapagos possesses the power to overrule Arceus' will if it can just reject its fate by creating a new type
>>58803711>I hadn't even noticed this thread. But it's becoming an obsession; as soon as one is closed, another one is created.Honestly the schizo headcanon threads are easily the most interesting threads here(not saying much given half the board is grown men circle jerking to children and the other half is children circle jerking over billion dollar corporations)
>>58804905But it isn't really an overruling, it's an allowance from Arceus, just like how Arceus allowed Cyrus to be seemingly inches away from remaking the universe in his image, because Arceus needed the DP Protagonist to prove their worth so they could later be pulled back in time to resolve the incidents at Hisui, allowing Hisui to become Sinnoh so the protagonist can be born and go on to thwart Cyrus, thereby proving their worth to be pulled back in time to resolve the incidents at Hisui, etc. etc. etc.
It is just accepted now that Aus looked identical to Cynthia, right?
>>58805079>It is just accepted now that Aus looked identical to Cynthia, right?Duhto Cynthia/Cogita (who looks like an older GILFy Cynthia)
>>58805079>AusWho? I don't think OCs are canon anon
>>58805079Always has been
>>58802158just like fairy, they'll add it in 2 gens later
Stellar is not a real type though, you will never see a Stellar Type Pokemon in any future game unless they give Terapagos a new form
>>58805211Is the legend plate not basically the stellar plate?
>>58804931>allowanceTerapagos doesn't need Arceus' permission to make a new type, timeline, dimension. He does it of his own free will!
>>58805303More like stellar is the legend plate with both offensive and defensive buffs
>>58805079>It is just accepted now that Aus looked identical to Cynthia, right?yup
>>58804767>700 BSTHe wishes
>>58806573Hes way better in VGC
>B-but Cynthia is a goddess guiseYou fags know she still wouldn't want to have sex with you even if you praise her right?
>>58802158Stellar type is not canon like everything since XY
>>58807358homo poster...
>>58807404>N-no you must be into exactly what i am into otherwise you are gayEver heard of people having different taste, retard?
>>58802207Same energy
>>58807745>toot
>>58807745looks like beta Arceus
