>he calls event legendaries "mythicals">he calls starters "first partners">he calls pseudo-legendaries "powerhouses"
>>58823724>he calls the elite 4 "the final gauntlet">he calls gym leaders "boss battles">he calls the dlcs "additional content"
>>58823724>calls your mom and HM slave
>>58823739*an Fuck my stupid fucking chud life forever
>>58823724>he calls event legendaries "mythicals"people have been calling them that since forever. The other 2 are retarded though and just reeks of GameFreak being scared to use fanon terms and bootlickers slopping up their shit terms because they treat GameFreak like literal gods
>>58823898Yeah, they've been using that since at least Gen 2.
>>58823898everyine I know calls all legendaries and mythicals just legendaries
>>58823898>The other 2 are retarded though and just reeks of GameFreak being scared to use fanon termsNah. "Starter" was the previous official term, I think it was being used into the early 2010s. Shiny was originally a fan term. Eeveelution was a fan term. It's about brand management and having the brand be consistent across each language. Interestingly, they threw English fans a bone when they canonized "shiny", since every other region used a version of "different colour", only the English name has this relic from the TCG "shining" terminology. In Japan, pseudos are called the 600 club, so "Powerhouse" is a simple way to describe them. "First Partner" allows for them to distinguish between baby's first Pokemon and other "Partner" starters, like they did in ZA. I also think it's meant to emphasize them being *partners* rather than something disposable, like a starter home or a starter job, something you're meant to grow out of. They're your first pet, not a pair of training wheels. But the English phrasing is obviously clunky and that makes it a hard sell when "starter" is so engrained.
>>58823724>he calls event legendaries "mythicals"This one is correct.>he calls starters "first partners"WHAT is the Pokemon Company thinking?
>>58823898Surprisingly, the official use of "Mythical" only started with the XY Diance event. So it's not like TPC is against adopting fan terms. >https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Terminology_of_Legendary_and_Mythical_Pok%C3%A9mon#In_the_core_series_games
>>58823724One of these 3 is not like the others.
>>58823898>GameFreak being scared to use fanon termsI wonder if anons here are old enough to remember that "shiny" was a term created by fans. When I first saw the term officially used in the gen 4 anime episode descriptions and then the gen 5 games, it was so fucking hype for child me. Felt like a "we won" moment
>>58824169Mythical was used in Japan from day fucking one to describe Mew, Celebi and others of the archetype. Burgers being retarded and TPCi fixing it about 18 years after the fact doesn't actually discredit the usage prior. It just highlights HOW fucking retarded burgers understood their kids to be.
>>58824173They're not, that's why they're too young to remember when "starter" was officially used for over a decade.
>>58824176>thing, Japan.Japan also changed their official term for shiny around the same time. This was a global effort to shore up some branding and standardize these terms. This was the era when shiny distributions became more frequent, and mythical distributions became more globally accessible.
>>58824173Anons here fail to understand WHY the franchise adopted "shiny" but not "starter". "Shiny" described the rare/alternative coloured/differently coloured/special coloured creatures in a concise way due to the sparkle effect and jingle that accompanied them. They got rid of several multi-word terms because "shiny" aptly described the things in one. As mentioned, "starter" in relation to things to own or take care of generally has a negative connotation, due to being seen as a stepping stone to other better things to own or take care of (again, starter job, starter pack, starter home - all implying you'll go for bigger or better things, or will need more materials in the case of starter packs of anything) and when it comes to creatures handed out to begin journeys in Pokémon games, that are developed specifically to appeal to children to potentially use all game, "starter" is a pretty poor word choice, but ultimately sums up the fanbase's general mindset. because it's a means to an end instead of the beginning of a friendship (which is the whole ethos and mentality presented with humans and pokémon in-universe).
>>58824189Yeah, but they didn't need to change Mythical. The whole issue here is EOP sperg manchildren reeing because they changed "event legendary" to "Mythical" while ignoring the still handed out event legends and continue to do so to this day ALONGSIDE Mythical offerings.It's almost as if they felt they NEEDED to clarify when something was an "event legend" and when something was a "Mythical encounter" in JSL or worse regions, that couldn't into native development language.
>>58824194Also, "starter" only makes sense in the context of them being "first partners", which is why the distinction makes practical sense. The games have given us additional starters well after the start of the game. The practice has been common since XY, which coincides with the change in terminology, but it goes back to Yellow. The gift Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle aren't starters. In Emerald, you get one as a reward for dex completion. In Colo, you snag the mid-stage evolution. In ZA, you're asked to pick a "partner Pokemon" because the playable character is an adult and isn't setting out on their journey. The distinction is useful and it better describes those Pokemon.The problem with "first partner Pokemon" is that it's just too damn long and unwieldy. People have a hard enough time with change, especially when it's framed as "language policing". Just explaining it comes off as know-it-all snob shit. Language doesn't evolve for precision, it evolves for ease of use, and people are going to keep using the 2 syllable term until the end of time.
>>58824205>It's almost as if they felt they NEEDED to clarify when something was an "event legend" and when something was a "Mythical encounter"Yes, the same way they do with starters. It's no coincidence that the mythicals had a whole year of promotion and merch in 2016, right after the term was shored up. They didn't go full Disney Princess and brand it "Pokemon Mythicals", but the term was heavily used in promotional material. All those scratch off mystery gift cards said "Claim a Mythical ______". They used the event to train customers. To reaffirm "these are the extra special ones, the rare ones, the ones you need to have FOMO for"
>>58824230Like you had with event legendaries? Grow up 'tard. In case you missed it since TPC took localisation off the retarded, they've made a point to re-affirm EVERYTHING Japan knew as innate and correct for the retarded masses worldwide, due to the NoA filter being applied to the rest the world. This includes applying the correct terminology onto specific "FOMO" creatures tied to toy shops in burgerville, movies in Japan and game shops in Europe. You're old and they donj;t care for olds unless you ALSO have kids and are bothered introducing them to kiddy crack like you're still jonesing for the high you got 15 years ago.
>>58824243Why are you so upset?"Starter" was still being used after TPCi took full control over localization. "Shiny" was made official despite it being inaccurate and out-of-step with every other language. This isn't about affirming Japan, the brand struck a balance between being globally consistent while also considering unique needs or challenges of each market. That's why this whole issue of "first partner" exists, it's a global term that English fans see as out-of-step.I don't even get what you're mad about.
>>58824251I'm not upset, the official terminology changing doesn't actually bother me (I use both interchangeably). But there are clearly haggard ancient fuckers who ARE upset their word usage got binned for a more unified term to the OG language. They're not using it any more and 5 whole generations of kids have grown up under their handling of the property. Throwing "shiny" back in my face also ignores the point of why they adopted shiny but not starter (a term misapplied from the get-go as pokémon were calways called "partners" in Japan, so "first partner" made sense). It describes the thing better than the official term at the time. Starter doesn't describe the first pokéon you choose at the start of a game adequaetly. Hence the shift in how they want the thing to be seen by kids. Spergs on the internet are irrelevant, in case you missed it, language standards have cratered because of smartphones Dont get me wrong, back in the day txtspk was a thing but that's because typing 1412 characters resulted in 2 messages and twice the cost being sent at once, so you learned brevity. No excuse for it now, full ophone keyboards yet everyone tyoes like a mong.
>>58823724>he calls event legendaries "mythicals"Yes>he calls starters "first partners"NoMaybe if it's about specific ones like Eevee for LGPE, that's not a fucking starter>he calls pseudo-legendaries "powerhouses"No
>>58824268I'm also actively talking about why first partner is a good term and how the only problem is that people are resistant to adopting it. We agree dude. Language has always trended toward ease of use, path of least resistance. Current trends are driven by phones, but you can find similar trends that started with the printing press, the novel, SMS, usenet, newspaper headlines or tv chyrons. Precision doesn't mean shit without persuasion, and I just don't think we're winning this one.
I always use official terms but I make an exception for these three:Base Stats instead of Species StrengthsIndividual Values instead of Individual StrengthsEffort Values instead of Base PointsBecause for those three the official terms aren't properly describing what they're for, especially that last one.I have mixed feelings on Mythical and Legendary being separate. I both like it in some ways and dislike it in other ways. It's strange. Legendary Pokémon also get Events and some Mythical Pokémon are obtainable directly in a game without needing an Event. Since they appear to want to keep Legendary and Mythical being separate, I hope they give both a separate vibe and value.
>>58824316EVs are called "Stat Points". When have they been called "Base Points"?
instead of "starter" and instead of "first partner", why not just call them partners? "Who's your favorite partner pokemon?", "Partner Pokemon Battle Royale", "Please go to my table and pick a partner pokemon".Idk if I like it or not
>>58824321For some things there appears to be multiple official terms. It's strange. Base Points is what Bulbapedia says the official term for Effort Values is, Efforts Values have also officially been called Base Stats. It's a mess with some of these official terms.https://www.pokemon.com/uk/play-pokemon/about/video-game-glossaryI really get the feeling they wish we didn't know Base Stats, Effort Values and Individual Values even existed or something like that as they feel quite weird about those three.
jotchua never said any of this though????
>>58824366>https://www.pokemon.com/uk/play-pokemon/about/video-game-glossaryThey use "Stat Points" in last year's VGC interstellar. I believe it's also in official footage of Champions. Fair to say "Base Points" is on the way out. >I really get the feeling they wish we didn't know Base Stats, Effort Values and Individual Values even existed or something like that as they feel quite weird about those three.They've never been shy about IVs or base stats. The issue is striking a balance between "Pokemon as special friends" and "Pokemon as a competitive game". The brand places more emphasis on them being unique creatures, that's something present in every piece of Pokemon media, and it has to reconcile that with the hard numbers and stats. That's why they've always contextualized mechanics with items like ability patches, bottle caps, TMs being educational software.
>>58824382>They use "Stat Points" in last year's VGC interstellarInterstitials*
>>58824268> Starter doesn't describe the first pokéon you choose at the start of a game adequaetly. Are you retarded? It precisely describes that, that’s why fans independently came up with the term.thats why even who matters at TPC still uses starter, like all rational humans do. The shift is soley Game freak being petty faggots and hating fans. Funny thing is they could have just gone with “partner” and more people would have been willing to swallow it since it’s short easy to say and has precedent with the partner Pokémon from lgpe, but game freak just had to be greedy and add the “first” bullshit not only making it clunky and retarded
>>58824490The English term "Partner" has been common in Japanese Pokemon media since the early anime. That's how Ash described Pikachu. Starter was also officially used, in English. It was never a fan term. It's just an official term that got retired
