Well??Are there or are there NOT multiple of an individual legendary in the game canon? ARE there multiple Rayquaza, or is it just widely believe there's just one, when in reality there are multiple??I need ANSWERS
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>>58846020Well, well. Look at the city slicker pulling up in his fancy Hyperspace Cyclizar.
>>58846305i hatched this cyclizar in kitakami...
>>58846309Well, pardon us, Mr. BRAVELY loafers.
>>58846000The Mega Dimension is actually a alternate universe where the ultimate weapon succeeded
>>58846313I bought these shoes off a team skull grunt!
>>58846000There is only one true legendary with possible others of the same species that aren't as powerful or divine.
>>58846386Well, la-dee-da, Mr. Galerie de la Lune haircut.
Some methods of obtaining Mythical/Legendary Pokémon shouldn't be taken seriously as canon, due to them being a result of wanting to have a way of letting players obtain them in a game without them having to think of an actual meaningfully proper way to integrate them for every one of them, or just as a result of regular gameplay. In canon there are multiple of some of them and for some of them there is only one.That's putting it very briefly. It's a very messy and complex subject. As which ways to obtain them count and which Pokémon are one individual or not is heavily debatable.
>>58846000>What, you think there're other Rayquaza flying around out there?
The legendary bird trio are the best examples of legendaries that are numerous.>you can see a second Articuno flying in Kanto after catching one in Gen 1>you can still see that second Articuno in FRLG when they had the opportunity to retcon it as an oversight>the legendary bird trio can be found in DPP despite them also being in HGSS, which takes place at the same time as DPP>the legendary bird trio can be encountered and captured an indefinite amount of times in LGPE>SwSh features the debut of regional variants of the legendary bird trioBy the time you get to SV, the boxart legendaries are literally just Cyclizar's ancient ancestors / distant descendants.
>>58846559>the legendary bird trio can be found in DPP despite them also being in HGSS, which takes place at the same time as DPPI would not take that as proof of them being different from the ones you encounter in gen 1. Oak is supposed to still be in Kanto/Johto for his radio shows and researching in Pallet Town yet he's also in Eterna City to check on your National Dex progress. We know the birds in Platinum migrated from Kanto and there's no reason to think that either the Sinnoh or Johto protagonist catching them would prevent the other from also catching them.>the legendary bird trio can be encountered and captured an indefinite amount of times in LGPESo can Mewtwo. But we're not going to assume that Mewtwo broke out of its lab and then Fuji went ahead and made even more who all decided to crash at Cerulean Cave?For the record I don't think the birds are one of a kind.
>>58846000You just simply pick one. I'm not sure if even Gamefreak knows.
>>58846660Wait, you can catch multiple Mewtwo in the Let's Go games?I didn't know that!
>>58846000The Hoenn trio you catch in plza is from hyperspace, not the "real" world.>>58846440Most of those methods are paralell world-like things anyways.>>58846660>So can Mewtwo.How? Everywhere it says only one.
>>58846000SV's DLC kind of implies there are multiple.
>>58846559>you can see a second Articuno flying in Kanto after catching one in Gen 1isn't this more them not thinking to update that with something else
>>58846559>the legendary bird trio can be found in DPP despite them also being in HGSS, which takes place at the same time as DPPSo does Jasmine, do you think it's because there are two Jasmine?
>>58846699>>58846707I'm retarded and confused Mewtwo respawning in Cerulean Cave for the Master Ball you can sometimes find there
>>58846709Yes, but pokemon fans have a hard time understanding what a video game is.
>>58846000Considering the dlc takes place in a dream dimension created by darkrai I assume all the pokemon located there are dream creations. Magical world of pokemon and all means they're probably no different from "real" pokemon, but instead of hatching from an egg or whatever they were spawned into existence because darkrai got injected with mega energy.I'd wonder about what that means for the mega pokemon, but most of the time korrina was like "oh, mega ____ is a ____ type" which would mean she's encountered that mega in the real world before.
>>58846437I had this hair cut in Galar
>>58846810Well, thanks for not believing in good grooming, Mr. Combo Breaker.
>>58846854Don't you lecture me with that 30 pokedollar haircut.
>>58846862We'll see, you blueberry bozo!
remember arceus can make more.in hg/ss arceus event you can get Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina from eggs.Also in hg/ss there is multiple Enteis since one of the battle frontier members Darach has one.
Every game ever you can just assume the MC canonically was lazy as fuck and only beelined the main story quests.
>>58846441>>58846708>>58846731>>58847501What is this, some sort of legendary Pokémon bargain basement sale?>I'd wonder about what that means for the mega pokemonYes, naturally it's a Mega Evolution bargain sale.
>>58847501>Also in hg/ss there is multiple Enteis since one of the battle frontier members Darach has one.I mean Entei's pokedex entry explicitly confirms there can be more than one with the whole Enteis being born whenever a volcano erupts
>>58847547I mainly meant if the mega stones existed before darkrai made the dream dimension. Korrina mentions a couple of them before you battle them, but also shows surprise over others.Like she mentions mega staraptor is part fighting type meaning she's fought it before hyperspace lumiose came into existence, but others could have in fact been spawned into existence thanks to someone just dreaming that a mega crabominable exists.
>>58847594https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGBDkxeHBQQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xflI5gkF8Ns
It only makes sense from a lore perspective for there to only be one of box legends like Fug, Zekrom, Solgaleo etc. The only reason you can get more of them is because this is a video game and it would be shit design if you could only obtain a Kyogre via transferring it from Gen 3/6.It's the same reason the player character can capture 500+ Pokemon, stuff them in a PC, and never have to care for them ever, or why time will rewind if the player ever loses a story battle, or why certain Pokemon straight up don't exist in your version unless you trade for them, or........
>>58846000At this point there kinda has to be to some extent. >The original in RSE>Alternate timeline in ORAS>The Rayquaza in HGSS>The Rayquaza in Ultra Space, which is rather vague as to whether it's an alternate dimension entirely or another planet since the location's distance is measured in Light Years>The Rayquaza in Dynamax Adventures which is just a large Max Lair in Galar>The Rayquaza in Ramanas Park>The Rayquaza in PaldeaAnd now this fucker
>>58847786And that's without taking into account alternate continuities, like the ashnime, which objectively has more than one.The one seen in the Deoxys movie doesn't appear to be the same entity as the one in the Mega Evolution specials, but they're DEFINITELY different to the Shiny one that appears in the Hoopa movie. And that's discounting the one-off appearences is makes in series like DP, multiple in SM for some reason and of course the NEW Shiny fug that appears in the new one.
Only Mythicals are unique
>>58847820Even that seems a bit iffy desu. Mew was confirmed to be a species with multiple instances at one point in history, Celebi can Time Travel and hypothetically have multiple instances. Phione is considered a Mythical (for some reason) and 3 of them show up in PLA (plus it can be bred), there's more than one Meltan and in-lore, multiple are required to create a Melmetal, etc.
>>58846000any lore related thing past gen 5 is not canon
>>58847530Except "canonically" the MC does every task put forward in the game for players to tackle, regardless if the player just "beelined the main story quests" like (You) did.
>>58847964And even then, even if most of them didn't, Red - the Golden boy of the series and everyone's favorite Gary Stu most likely did which begs the question of why Mewtwo exists in HGSS, Let's Go, XY and PLA if only one is supposed to exist.
>>58847964Do you have any actual proof of that? The fact that the swords of justice are running around in B2W2 would pretty clearly contradict that.
>>58846000>game: There's only one Rayquaza>some obese unovabort choking on buffalo wings covered in nutella and deep fried in palm oil: Are there or are there NOT multiple Rayquaza??? I NEED ANSWERS
Every MC eventually releases the legendaries they catch out of respect.
>>58846000He just gave you the answer you retard
>>58846731>I'd wonder about what that means for the mega pokemon, but most of the time korrina was like "oh, mega ____ is a ____ type" which would mean she's encountered that mega in the real world beforeI’d assume that, much like how all the new mega stones started popping up as of ZA, the mega had always existed, it’s just that within hyperspace is the first time (you) encounter them. They’re new to the player, but not actually new in-universe nor formed by hyperspace
>>58847501>remember arceus can make more.Doesn't mean it did.>>58847786All these discussions assume its within one universe.
>>58847970> Red - the Golden boy of the series and everyone's favorite Gary Stucope, ashfag>begs the question of why Mewtwo exists in HGSS, Let's Go, XY and PLA if only one is supposed to exist.Because he didn't catch Mewtwo.
>>58848433>Mentioning Ash out of nowhereIt's not exactly obscure knowledge that people wank the hell out of Red, far more than any other protag. Plus considering that he's caught Mewtwo in at least two separate continuities, Red catching Mewtwo isn't exactly out of the question.
the hoopa quest in za makes it fairly clear that legendaries/mythicals are functionally infinite since even if theres only one in your dimension, you can just yoink another dimensions one
>>58848804>It's not exactly obscure knowledge that people wank the hell out of Red, far more than any other protag. Thanks for proving me right>Red catching Mewtwo isn't exactly out of the question.There's no source proving that he did so you can't say he did.There IS evidence he didn't.
>>58848822>there's a dimension out there that has no legendary Pokémon because another dimension took it all from themThat'd make for a spin-off.
>>58848832Whatever makes you feel better about being an argumentative autist that hates discussion, champ. I don't wanna hurt your fragile rigid world view so I won't argue with you any further. Lemme tuck you in with the weighted blankie in your favorite race car bed while I'm at it :)
>>58848835>post-apocalyptic hoenn where kyogre and groudon's fighting destroyed the region because rayquaza was taken for some kid from another dimensions living dexits too kino a concept for gf, i fear
>>58848848>I don't wanna hurt your fragile rigid world viewSays the guy who thinks Red is this super popular shilled Gary Stu.
>>58848433>if you don't like redwank constantly shoved down your throat it must be because you want red'sannoyingcousinwank shoved down your throat>>58848804Red never uses a Mewtwo as an NPC so it's a pretty easy interpretation to say they retconned Red catching Mewtwo in HGSS for pokedex completion reasons, and Ethan/Lyra catching Mewtwo isn't that important, so it's pretty easy to say them catching Mewtwo isn't canon and it was caught by Team Flare and either escaped and sat in a cave until Serena/Calem caught it (XY version of XY's events) or went forgotten until Paxton/Harmony caught it 5 years later (Z-A version of XY's events)LGPE notoriously makes no sense in the grand scheme of things it's better for your sanity to just assume it's non-canon
>>58848884No, if you think Red is wanked at all you must be an ashfag because they're the ones who installed that ridiculous notion in the first place.>they retconned Red catching Mewtwo something has to happen first to be retconned.
>>58848916>No, if you think Red is wanked at all you must be an ashfag because they're the ones who installed that ridiculous notion in the first place.Anon I play mastersex where there's been like one anni ever with no signs of redwank and even there one of the anniversary events was included the featured character battling red>something has to happen first to be retconned.You mean like how you couldn't catch Mewtwo in gsc?
>>58849007>Anon I play mastersex where there's been like one anni ever with no signs of redwank and even there one of the anniversary events was included the featured character battling redWhoa, something. Something from the same game that had Red as weaker than Ash.You're right, Red clearly is as exploited as Mario and Link now, what was I thinking?>You mean like how you couldn't catch Mewtwo in gsc?Which is never said to be because Red caught it. You can't even enter Cerulean Cave in GSC. Seems you're the one wanking Red here.
>>58849097>powerscaling nonsenseWhat does that have to do with the price of tea in China?>Which is never said to be because Red caught it. You can't even enter Cerulean Cave in GSCThere's a pretty decent implication there, if it really was just that Cerulean Cave was gone why wouldn't Mewtwo just go to some other part of the region?
>>58849120>powerscaling nonsenseYou literally introduced that to the thread.>There's a pretty decent implication there,Not really.
>>58849129>You literally introduced that to the thread.Where? I said Red being constantly shilled was annoying, a good portion of that shilling is about how he's le strongest trainer ever, yes, but I'd say being annoyed with that shilling is more anti-powerscaling than pro-powerscaling.>Not really.Ok, then why is Mewtwo not present in the wild in GSC?
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>>58848884>it's better for your sanity to just assume it's non-canonBecause accepting it's an alternative universe from the prime universe where the events of Gen 1 didn't happen QUITE as told by RG is too much for you autistic shitheads, huh?
>>58849497That's basically just a more complicated way of saying it's non-canon unless they make another let's go game.
>>58849146>Where?>>58847970>Ok, then why is Mewtwo not present in the wild in GSC?Because they didn't have it appear in.
>>58849638That's not me dumbass I literally disagreed with his point about Red catching Mewtwo>Mewtwo doesn't appear in the wild because the developers didn't program an encounter inNice fucking lore explanation
>>58849648>Nice fucking lore explanationYou asked why its not there. That's the answer.We weren't given a lore explanation.I know you're used to the pokemon fanbase where poketubers write the lore but for sane people when something its not explained, its just not explained. We don't even need a lore explanation because we don't even go to where Mewtwo is supposed to be anyways.
>>58849692I'm familiar with games where there are actual major lore inconsistencies, Mewtwo not being in GSC for no reason because someone on /vp/ who can't follow a conversation said the most logical explanation isn't possible with no contradictory evidence is not one of them.
