>female

you got bigger problems than a modest nature

>>58859179
>Oh nooooo my pokemon will do 10% less damage! What ever will I do in this piss-easy game that can be beaten by mashing A and that you can 1-hit the vast majority of enemies you battle?
Does not matter at all for the actual game retard.

>>58859185
>what is the battle frontier/post game facilities

>>58859190
>battle facilities
Something only autists engaged with. When the average player was faced with the Battle Tower and lost because they kept getting unlucky with enemy team compositions, move procs, status procs, item procs, ability procs, etc. they realized that the game was long over and that there was nothing left to do, so they understandably put the game down, considering it complete.
And PVP, once it went online, suffers the problem of "everyone is a tryhard sweat so it's not fun unless I become one of those too, but that sounds miserable unless I'm severely autistic or intend to train so I can compete in VGC for the first place prizes."

>>58859190
You're not in the postgame battle facilities, sure as hell not with a wild-caught one

>>58859179
They offer a negligible stat buff and give one more element of game mastery.

>>58859190
Bullshit areas where the AI literally cheats that make Youtubers cream themselves because they think they're good at the game because they beat a cheating AI when they're just gaming the system using spreadsheets.

>>58859185
>Does not matter at all
why is it in the game then

>>58859190
The fun of Pokemon is the journey and building your team. The battling is fun but it's not worth battling just for the sake of battling.

>>58859281
Because it matters for competitive. I can only assume the other Anon is talking about the single-player campaign.

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>>58859185
>>Oh nooooo my pokemon will do 10% less damage! What ever will I do in this piss-easy game that can be beaten by mashing A and that you can 1-hit the vast majority of enemies you battle?
This but unironically. If I'm not completely crushing my opponents with my maximum power mons, then I'm not having fun.

>>58859190
You don't need good natures or IVs for postgame facilities. Opponent Pokemon knowledge and good decision-making skills are much more important.

The Battle Hall, a facility very prone to bullshit matchups, was beaten with the worst possible Gyarados: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1RDQpUHHdE

>>58859255
Now this is true cope. There is no evidence that the AI cheats, it's more likely you made shitty decisions that look like you got unlucky. The zoomertubers achieved something you haven't and they get all the attention, no need to be jealous.

>>58859255
>>58859312
If you have ever used save states you would know the ai doesn't cheats.

Unless you mean there is a Lanturn with Earthquake or something like that

>>58859281
Like IVs it was supposed to make your pokemon a little more unique to you, like a pet
These days the fact that you can just give them drugs to change natures and IVs makes them pointless from every perspective though

>>58859343
Unique shouldn't have been inferior or superior though

>>58859345
I dunno man my dog is fucking retarded for a dog but he's still my dog. I'm not going to toss him in the woods for it I get what I rolled.
That is more or less the intention, it just encourages eugenics in a competitive context (like real life!)

>>58859312
>no evidence that the AI cheats
Pokemon NPC trainers would use potions after you attacked them same turn, never ran out of pp, and had illegal moves and levels.
Early Pokemon Ai was notorious for cheating.

>>58859357
>let me change the goalposts and pretend we're talking about gen 1, not battle facilities
>let's pretend having inaccessible moves is a bad thing that no other rpgs do because we said so and we actually suck at pokemon
kwab

>>58859366
>change the goalposts
I'm clearly not the person you think I am, as that was my first post

>>58859357
>Pokemon NPC trainers would use potions after you attacked them same turn
I'm sure this never happened, not even in Gen 1's glitchy ass
>never ran out of pp
Not in Gen 3, you can pp stall battle frontier opponents if you want.
>and had illegal moves and levels.
Yeah this is the most common oversight

>>58859366
>>58859371
Ok ok, I get what's going on, you guys were already having a convo, I just saw "no evidence that the AI cheats" and immediately thought back to the days of Pokemon Red.

>>58859322
>>58859366
>>58859371
>illegal moves and levels
Never understood why this was a bad thing. It's very common for your opponent in RPGs to be stronger than you and have something you can't. It should be taken as a challenge to the player. Gym leaders use their own TMs inaccessible to you on their Pokemon, are they suddenly cheating?

>>58859322
As somebody who has actually done one better and did some testing with the Gen 4 local Multis using save backups (and has seen somebody play the Pokemon Stadium games using save states to test exactly this), and has some understanding of how RNG works in Pokemon battles (from said same person I watched), I can give some specifics here. RNG is determined before the battle even starts, it generates a list of RNG values and just goes through them in order, both you and the opponent pulling them from the same pool (a deck would be a solid analogy). In local Multis specifically it seems like the RNG is determined before you even start the streak, as reloading the saves on both games will give you not only the same RNG in battles, but the same teams exactly in order. Regardless, the AI seems to choose the best move taking into account both your current state (what Pokemon you have and their current HP is) as well as what the RNG seed is in order to determine if using a certain move will work enough or not. This can seem like cheating from the outside, but it's less rigging and more looking at how the deck is stacked and picking relatively optimally, if that makes sense. This isn't accounting for things like programmed error, programming errors, game specific oddities, or different weights on how it values certain actions, like the Gen 5-7 I think refusal to switch out to True Ant or Gen 6's similar brain problems when it comes to FEAR strats.

>>58859379
Two words
Barrier Dragonite
It's not helpful, but it is illegal

>>58859322
The fact you need to use Save States at all means yes, it does cheat.

>>58859379
Pokemon never did that shit on purpose, there was never a special boss pokemon Giovanni had you couldn't ever catch or anything like that

If they do that it's fairly with things you can't get YET, like Misty's Starmie, you can't get one unless you trade.
Illegal and cheating would be Misty's Starmie having Flamethrower

>>58859382
I didn't know the AI took into account the RNG, yeah that seems a bit unfair but that's definitely something that only happens in Gen 4 and not Gen 3

If you ever used save states in both gens you can tell Gen 4 battles are indeed "fixed" the moment they start like you said (ie that pokeball is always going to fail, that move is always going to miss)

But Gen 3 does not follow that rule, the rng is still moving even mid battle, you can save state, wait a bit before attacking and you will evade that 90 accuracy move eventually or catch the legendary with a pokeball

>>58859387
Nah I just like using save states

>>58859390
Again, I don't see why that's a bad thing. Maybe a Pokemon could have impossible levels like Lance's Dragonites or multiple egg moves. Who the fuck cares, you should be smarter than the AI to deal with it.

Maybe it's the PVP aspect where you're expecting your human opponent to play fair?

>>58859190
If you're doing battle facilities you're going to catch/breed a new team and EV train them properly, not use the same team you used for the main story. So looking for the correct nature will just be part of that process.

>>58859654
Not really, you can still use the main story team if you didn't overlevel them and they have good natures and more importantly are good pokemon like swampert

>>58859179
Can't you just...catch another one?
For legendaries, it kinda sucks but that's why Synchronize exists (unless you play Ruby/Sapphire, or the mon you want is a roamer).
Also someone mentionned the post game facilities. If you want to go all the way up there, you can put some extra little effort in just...catching another one. Poké Balls are cheap. Some people EV train their mons for these, which is more painful than just going for another nature.

My docile Bulbasaur is cute and my brave Gyarados is tough, I don't have to defend shit.

>>58859190
something no one aiming to win would be using golem in?

>>58859312
>Game literally creates teams based on what is needed to kill your Pokemon at higher tiers
>"No evidence that the AI cheats"
The only thing that disproves it in any way is the interim boss fights which have premade teams. Everything else is rng based on what you have
If you have a team that gets nuked with ice types, expect to get throttled by ice mons or attacks.
Try to spread out your weaknesses, and they will bring moves that hit your weaknesses or do high damage.
Planning on bringing bulky tanks? They have toxic and OHKO hax for that too.
There's literally only so much "skill issue" one can have until you realize that the best solution to deal with it is to bring a varied team, and then that only just obfuscates the blatant cheating the AI does.

>>58860353
>nooo ice types :(
>noooo toxic ;_;
this is just the game throwing pregenerated pokemon sets at you, yet people have legitimately gotten streaks in the hundreds and thousands
unironically git gud

why does this all matter? everyone knows the best facility in any postgame is the battle factory c:
random pokemon time baybee

>>58860331
Cool so do natures magically vanish if I train up a Salamence instead?

>>58860408
compared to if you're wasting that time on golem? yeah they might as well

>>58859185
I had an annihilate with zero attack ivs and a neutral nature and even in the sv story I was like why the fuck is it so weak

>>58860415
Woah so if I use Sassy Salamence it won’t get outsped by other Salamence?

>>58859179
It's a bit of flavor, even if they make some Pokémon suboptimal.
IVs are indefensible though, honestly I wouldn't bother "fixing" them and would just do away with them. They got rid of Hidden Power so what's the excuse for keeping them?