Were cross gen evos a mistake in the long run?
>>58860451>still no KANTOOOOOOO game that's just the 151 + crossgensWe are being robbed of kino
>>58860456What about regional forms and megas?
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>>58860451No Jynx evo still makes me cringe
>>58860602I'd personally put Basculegion in Not crossgen because the Unovan forms can't evolve into it and it also counts as a Hisuian form
>>58860656Should have gotten a regional form that could evolve further, and then the original Jynx would get a mega
>>58860456Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX was pretty kino doing gens 1-3 + all cross gens and megas + Lucario, of course
>>58860674shows how little that line sticks out in my mind
No, if anything they were what made new generations fun. I loved seeing all the evos and pre-evos from Gen IV after coming back into the series with Pearl and wanted more of them. Gen V is second favorite after Gen IV and they missed a great opportunity to really go crazy with cross-gen evos.>Gen V had a new set of Pokemon>Gen VI could have been Gen V's Gen II with evos out the ass>Gen VII could have been Gen III with a few more evos but mostly new Pokemon>All of the above accumulates with Gen VIII giving every past gen evos and pre-evos while not really adding new PokemonStuff like Kleavor, Ursaluna, Obstagoon, Basculegion and Clodsire should have been in Gen VI. Most of Gen I's lines should have split evos by now, not regionals, split evos. The King's Rock and Dawn Stone are still heavily underused.
>>58860474megas yes, regionals no. Unless they made some new regional forms for mons found in kanto that are outside the kanto dex proper, like houndour. An extended dex for kanto at like 250 mons would be pretty much perfect.
>>58860451If they really were to reorganize the Kanto dex to include cross-gen evolutions (like what ORAS did), then ideally Hitmontop should be between Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan as a subtle hint towards its evolution method.Otherwise, has someone done this for the entire national dex? I'd like to see which 'mons end up with each national dex number after this reorganization.
>>58860602>bottom tierSo here's the thing. Actual crossgens are cool, I have no issue with them.Regional evolutions where they are a different path entirely than the original evolution (Runerigus, Perrserker, Sneasler, Clodsire) are also acceptable. Maybe not the designs themselves, but I don't hate them by principle.But any regional evolution that leaves the classic form with nothing (Obstagoon, Cursola, Sirfetch'd, Mr. Rime, Overqwil, and arguably Basculegion since white stripe might as well be a regional form) upset me on account of what they are. If a regional gets an exclusive evolution, so should the classic, in order to balance things out. This is the SINGLE reason I agree with the "regional replacement" belief a lot of this board has, this practice is so egregious it tarnishes regional forms as a mechanic.Also,>scizor, politoed, magnezone and gliscor in c tierCringe.
>>58860456This, but also 2 lines from each preceeding gen. Maybe of the same type to make up for the lopsided type distribution. I say this so that Houndour and Murkrow are Kanto pokemon in their debut game so they obviously should be included. Slugma is kinda ass though, so you can discard it.
>>58860451>kleavorthat’s a regional evolution anon
>>58860602Mr. Rime is kinda crossgen since it's from Mime Jr. Honestly, I think as long as one base form is the same, regional variants should be considered crossgen like Alolan Raichu. Basculegion is more dubious of a choice as the only form of Basculin that can evolve into it is Gen 8, effectively a regional of the entire line like Alolan Vulpix.
>>58860451I get that Alolan forms were kind of intended to fix that, but it's crazy that there's still not a single Dark type.
>>58861086>If a regional gets an exclusive evolution, so should the classic, in order to balance things out.I agree, but the evolution shouldn't be the same as the regional, Purrserker shouldn't have been a Persian, that's fine. Making classic Linoone an Obstagoon, that won't work. Really make the two stand out instead of making an obligatory version to fill space.
>>58860451for the 493 no, don't be sillythis is what Pokemon is
>>58861235Hey so, fun fact hereThere's no such a thing as a "regional evolution"Your fanfic, fanmade terms aren't real. Even less after you can evolve Scyther into Kleavor in Z-A.
>>58861708>what about the literal shit in a stick from Hoenn 2.0 now even worse???No thanks
>>58860451>no Purrserker, a possible evolution of Meowth ("it's regional" isn't an excuse since Let's Go had regionals)>no Mr. Rime, the evolution of Mr. Mime (same reason)>no Miltank (so much of a female Tauros they even shared page in the Alola dex)>no Lugia (the master of the bird trio, and yes it's canon even in the games)
>>58861759Sinnoh cross-gen evos completed the series>>58860809they may not all be perfect, but they're valid nonetheless
>>58861787>but what about taking a pokemon and making it fatter and uglier???There are two Sinnoh evos worth existing and they are Eevees.
>>58860451Me in the fourth column; third-to-last row.
>>58861277Of course
>>58861252Mime Jr. only evolves into Galarian Mr. Mime while in Galar though which is why it's a regional evolution
>>58861777This is all schizo shit, but I would have actually included Miltank if it had the Illumise/Volbeat gimmick where Tauros and Miltank could produce eggs of each other while breeding with Ditto, but sadly it doesn't
>still acting like miltank is a female tauros when it got dexcut from svlel
>>58862243That's literally not true, schizo
>>58862373>the only time Miltank isn't with Tauros is in the region where Tauros is so different it's not even a normal type anymore
>>58862373wym she's right here
>>58860602>Necro Ape not S+>This fucking lowI swear vp is the lolcow board
>>58860451>Were cross gen evos a mistake in the long run?No. Cross-gen evos are what I look forward to most in new Pokemon games. Z-A was pretty disappointing since it didn't have any after PLA introduced several.Fingers crossed Mightyena gets one in Gen 10. One of my all-time favorite Pokemon and I've been hooked on the idea since Khu's Bloodmoon riddle.