Why have Pokemon regions begun representing bigger landmasses?
pure laziness
note how gen 5 still followed the original trend. gen 6 made the change. take that as you all wish.
>>58863864>90s Gamefreak would've made an entire region out of Catalonia>Now we get Portugal and Spain rolled in one
>>58863867Unova barely represents the New York City metro area outside of the bridges and Castelia & Nimbasa.If anything it leans heavily into original worldbuilding and fantasy elements with shit like the Relic Castle, Chargestone Cave, and Dragonspiral Tower.
>>58863867>the region still sucked assHuh. I guess it doesn’t matter as much as I thought.
>>58863864focusing on a tiny region requires more research and effort, most people could come up with an Italy themed region pretty fast, far fewer could come up with one entirely based on Tuscany.
>>58863867to be fair Kalos is still only northern France. Then we got Galar as a whole country and now Paldea as 2 wholeass countries
>>58863892I'm sure you could easily if you're Italian, much less if you're Japanese. It's why Japan get so many regions really, much easier to grasp the regional differences of your own country over another one, especially this foreign to them.
>>58863864because of their pinwheel design philosophy
>>58863864Japan can do multiple regions on their country because they know the intricacies of their country. They can only do one game per country for other countries since they only know stereotypes
>>58863864Because the devs didn't grow up in those countries, so the regions are just a mishmash of stereotypes and surface level traditions
>>58863864We were pretty close to it happening to Japan as well. >>58863895They were going to make Kalos the entirety of France had southern Kalos not been scrapped.
>>58863864because it's easy to market, i remember seeing the prism tower in the reveal trailer for x and y and thinking how unoriginal and lazy they were going to get, all for sake of that normie money and to pander to themregions prior felt vague and as if the pokemon lore/world was expanding, now it's just slop
>>58863955>betashitno one cares
>>58863864Because they left their comfort zone of Japan.Unova gets a pass because America has no culture to begin with so you literally can't fuck up anything at allBut for countries with actual cultures it's better to focus on the big picture and broad traditions because 1: GF as a Japanese company will find really hard to understand or adapt local cultural expressions into a game that's supposed to appeal to a massive audience 2: by focusing on more local cultures they risk messing up and misrepresenting said cultures (and we know they actually care about not being racist/culturally insensitive)3: since you are focusing on a whole country the small details that you get to represent leave more impact because the expectations are lower overall (I know a couple of Spics who found the weird pokemon centers of SV to be good representation because apparently in Spain they have some convenience stores that look like those, or something?)
>>58863895In the case of Galar, you could make the argument it truly just represents the United Kingdom, rather than just England
>>58863973>America has no cultureThat's bullshit and i'm saying it as a Eurofag. Texas and Florida are radically different than New England and Colorado
>>58863990Seems fair since Wales and Scotland is also in it.
>>58863867Gen 5 was the opposite, it turned a fucking city into a region as big as Hokkaido
>>58863904That pic conveniently ignores the fact the resort is tropical despite being at the same latitude as the permafrost area
>>58863864Because they're tired... So very tired...
>>58864105Isn't it like that due to Stark Mountain's activity?
>>58864123>volcano turn lands tropicalIceland will be happy to learn about it
>>58864131but Iceland is green. Greenland is the one that's covered in ice
>>58864105Kinda funny how the coldest parts of Sinnoh in Platinum is in the north (ignoring the moon Islands and battle zone), the top of Mt Coronet (ignoring Spear Pillar) and Twinleaf Town which is the southern most city in Sinnoh.
>>58863864>top leftYou put in NI, which isn't in any game, but left out Mann, which is the Isle of Armor.>>58864007I fucking wish Wales was represented. It gets half a route. A route that doesn't have anything to do with Wales.
>>58864134Iceland is also very icy.
>>58863864Gamefreak is getting very lazy. Sumatra alone is gargantuan enough to be a region we dont need all of Indonesia as it will be poorly developed garbage
>>58863958they do this method with every new region now>Big Ben but Pokemon!>Sagrada Familia but Pokemon!and it seems the fans basically clamor to see it too
>>58863973>GF as a Japanese company will find really hard to understand or adapt local cultural expressions into a game that's supposed to appeal to a massive audienceas if the massive audience really gives a shit about how accurately they represent the source material, nu-regions are hilariously shallow in their representations anyways.Also they travel to every country they make a region for, so I don't see how hard it could possible be for them to stay in one place for a week or so and note down all the little references they can make. Slateport in Hoenn is based on a couple port towns in Kyushu, Oreburgh is based on Yubari, a coal mine city in Hokkaido. This shit is as easy as you choose to make it, don't act like expanding the scope to a whole country has allowed them to get super deep with references and mythology, because if anything the opposite has happened
>>58864257having an island be a different temperature (even if unrealistic) is at least more realistic than whatevers going on here
>>58863864id want a New England themed region on the water
>>58864320>Also they travel to every country they make a region for, so I don't see how hard it could possible be for them to stay in one place for a week or so and note down all the little references they can makeThere's a world of difference between visiting a place for a week as a tourist versus actually living there. They don't natively speak the languages or have any understanding what makes a region in a foreign country different from another region in the same country so how are they going to adapt it the same as the regions where they've actually lived their entire lives? The entire reason Unova ended up being so all over the place culturally was because Masuda got the idea for the region after visiting NYC for Diamond and Pearl's release and saw all the diverse kinds of people so he made Unova be multicultural.
>>58864386like i said, this stuff is as easy as they choose to make it. Hire a tour guide, buy a book about the region, especially for countries in Europe where damn near every town has it's own history and cultural symbols you really wouldn't have a hard time focusing in on a smaller area.The point is not that old towns in the games had deep lore and intricate history, but that they were all based on a tighter part of the real world and didn't just resort to using the most obvious landmarks for inspiration. It made for a more cohesive region that felt real as opposed to trying to stuff everything of note from an entire country into one game.I literally asked ChatGPT and it'd be pretty easy to work some of these into real towns in a hypothetical region.
>>58863867>en 5 still followed the original trend.gen 5 is a weird middle spot where it isn't really based off a place it's a mix of NYC and Shanghai and retard geography it's one of few regions I'd say is uniquely shaped instead of how every other one you could overlap onto a real place on the globe and it match
>>58864251The map of Unova is wildly off, Unova matches up with the NYC metro area.
>>58864466that's so retarded the scales are completely off what was wrong with gen 5
>>58864465Unova does overlap a real place: the eastern portion is Long Island, the central portion is Manhattan, and the western portion is New Jersey.
>>58864481that barely overlaps and looks stupid
>>58864481>the eastern portion is Long Island,where's the rest of it then?
>>58864475not trying to be a carbon geographic copy of the real world is a good thing honestly
>>58864481my god...
>>58864490maybe but it makes Unova so weird it's not American enough a region for me I want a more American region not one with fucking chinese genies as legendaries and yin yang dragons
>>58864320>as if the massive audience really gives a shit about how accurately they represent the source materialThis is one of those things that you don't notice until you mess up, sure most people won't care if the cultural representation is somewhat dull but they will 100% shit on GF if they get something wrong >Also they travel to every country they make a region for, so I don't see how hard it could possible be for them to stay in one place for a week or so and note down all the little references they can make.You are hilariously wrong.Staying in a town as a tourist for a week is a whole different experience.>don't act like expanding the scope to a whole country has allowed them to get super deep with references and mythologyI am quite literally arguing the same
>>58864481>central portion is Manhattan>southern tip is businesses and skyscrapers>middle portion is entertainment focused, musicalsdont know how i never noticed the obvious parallels to the financial district and midtown
>>58864501and the desert?
>>58864496Here's your American box legendary Pokemon
>>58864506shit a baseball playing bird would be a fun legendary fuck it baseball region would work
>>58864509Hell yeah!
>>58864505well sure, that's obviously not plastered from NYC, but they have that in there for lore reasons.I don't mind that Unova went for a hybrid approach of mixing original fantasy stuff with a real world place, they kind of repeated this in Paldea with Area Zero, I think it's a cool way to spice things up.
>>58864506that would be fucking sick actually
>>58864545having royalty in the USA region is such a fucking retarded ass thing
>>58864591I mean you used to have that
>>58864591I mean you have tech oligarchs now and a self proclaimed king, so it makes sense
>>58863864Globalization of the franchise. They want to cover as much as possible.
>>58865512They'll get a Ceaser soon.
>>58863973Aggressively jewish post.
>>58864496How would you design an American region that feels American without it looking like you are mocking American culture and it's people?
>>58865506No, Mexico did. From the start, the USA was about getting away from English crown.
>>58866391same way they did kalos, galar, alola, and paldaea. Americans aren't some kind of different species
>>58864505The area with the destroyed buildings is Ground Zero
>>58866396America legit has no culture outside memes and stereotypes.I can't even come up with a general idea for a region without making it sound like a Shitpost.I guess a cowboy themed region would work?
>>58866526Post side-view of nose.
>>58866533I guess being obsessed with Jews counts as culture but I have no idea how to implement that in a Pokemon game...
>>58866538I did not mention jews in my post.
Hawaiian culture is American culture so Alola already delivered on the American culture quota for Pokemon
>>58866391>>58866526This is the kind of shit you'd only say if you've never bothered to look at what America is like, I'm guessing you live in some coastal state and believe nothing interesting in the middle of the country besides diabetes and college football so I took it upon myself to make some concepts.I chose South Dakota since you probably think there's nothing there but grass and people waiting to die. Some animals you could represent would be the Prarie Dog, the Pronghorn Antelope, Townsend’s big-eared bat, the Eastern spotted skunk, Snowy Owls, and the 13-lined ground squirrel, to name a few.Routewise we can have some big praries, the glacial lakes, a bison meadow (maybe where Bouffant charge at you and you need to be stealthy), and some lakefront routes based on SD's over 120 glacial lakes.Townwise they'll be smaller sure, a prarie farm town like Turffield, a rail junction town, a town on the lakefront, maybe an oil rig town that's past its prime, and a colder city up in the Black Hills, maybe even the league is built into these hills like Mouth Rushmore.I agree that you could build a region off a much smaller piece of a European country and have lots of material (even Northern France seems like too big of a net for Kalos) but acting like America only offers "America" as a theme and that's it reeks of someone who hasn't bothered to learn about the country. Get outside and see the world anon, there's a lot to enjoy outside of your city.
>>58864251>I fucking wish Wales was represented. It gets half a route. A route that doesn't have anything to do with Wales.what route would that be
>>58864496Is the Ying Yang theme something intended for the Gen5 legendaries or just a fandom label?Because the whole Truth vs Ideals dichotomy kinda fits for an American region (mainly because the conflict revolves around the people rather than natural forces)Or at least that's what I think, is not like the other legendaries are tailor made for the countries of each region, Xerneas and Yveltal don't scream "french" to me
>>58866613i feel like it's pretty obviously they were leaning into the yinyang, particularly with each version having the opposite colored legendary
>>58864251You can stretch Sirfetch'd to being Welsh representation since the leek is one of our national symbols. There's also loads of King Arthur references scattered about, like Zacian and Zamazenta taking heavily from Arthurian mythology. But yeah, I was disappointed that the Isle of Armor wasn't set in Wales.
>>58866538frlg did this with the hypno story
>>58867666How so?
>>58863864It's just the simple fact that in Gen 1 through 4 they were making regions based on their home country, which they have intrinsic knowledge of and thus are much more familiar with the differences between Japanese prefectures. So it's easy for them to see different regions. When making a region from a foreign country, they are much less familiar, and thus are more likely to generalize the culture to what is most appealing to them. If for example, Pokemon was made by a British team, they would have a much clearer picture on the differences between England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, so they might be able to make multiple regions within the UK reflecting these differences. And conversely they would have a much more difficult time doing this for Japan, so we likely would only get one or two more generic Japan-inspired regions from that.
>>58863973>America has no culturewhy do Americans keep posting this? No nigger claiming you don't have any culture because it's so ingrained into your every day life that you don't even realize it's American culture doesn't make you any less of a mystery meat obese consumer
