what's the verdict?
>>58874323>FranceGay.
>>58874323Lame and tediousGreat ass-shots though
>>58874323Not good, but not ungodly terrible like most of the Switch era.And just like the other Kalos games, it'll be rushed and unfinished to make way for the anniversary generation. But at least we got Eternal Flower Floette legitimately.
>>58874323Best Pokémon game on the Switch
>>58874778Pls say sike
It's shit.
>>58875055spbp
>>58874772why are talking in the future, retard? The game is out and over for months now.
>>58874323forgettable
Literally the first game in the franchise i dropped. I did beat the main story and gotten Zygarde yes but i literally dropped it in the first dimension in the DLC. Whoever made it so that the DLC is mostly timed garbage deserves to be shot
>>58874778This is true, but that isn't saying very much.
Base game good, DLC bad.
>>58875077I'm guessing he was trying to speak in future perfect tense
>>58874323mediocre
>>58874323If you played it, you are pathetic>b-but I pirated, I didn't payed for itMoney is the issue, it's your time.$70 can be literally nothing for someone. But the hours spent playing it will always be a waste
I like arceus will I like this?
>>58874323It was okay, although not as good as Legends Arceus. The DLC was fucking atrocious, though.
Why so many people trash the dlc? Is it really worse than the base game?
>>58875920Pirate here. I paid $0 for the complete game. The ZA DLC isn't even worth pirating.
>>58875920It is insanely tedious and repetitive and involves way too much randomness.
>>58875812No>>58875384He's right, I regret wasting 27 hours like that.
>>58875812depends what you enjoyed from Arceus.The Large regions? The focus on capturing everything? Then no. The city is tiny and copy pasted and catching is an after thought since the wild areas are somehow even tinier.
>>58874323Shit for subhumans
I love Urbain and Corbeau
Series is back on track for the first time since XY and SM moved to 3D. SwSh, Arceus and SV feel like weird growing pains now. I hope they commit to the realtime gameplay since Champions will be turn-based.
>>58875920Way worse, because it's all RNG. Some Pokemon simply won't appear unless you cycle days a few dozen times trying to force it.
>>58876073Catching feels like shit because there is barely anything you can do to increase the odds aside from just using a better pokeball.
>>58874323it's shit. would have been fine as a $20 side project but it's embarrassing that they consider this a branch of the series at all, fucking pathetic as anything modern gf makes
>>58874323>what's the verdict?I want to fuck Taunie's lack of brains out so bad.
It's kino.
>>58874323Taunie sex 8/10
>>58875920Bar none. ZA may be my favorite Game Freak Pokémon game on Switch, but the gameplay loop of the DLC is absolutely unacceptable. The distortion RNG is painful if you're going after a specific Pokémon without editing one in, and that's even after including mods that disable the timer and alleviate the donut grind.The entire postgame and DLC is a slog outside of boss battles. Mega Dimension should've been part of the base game or completely different content if it meant no padding as a poor excuse to justify its $60 base game + $30 DLC + $10 Switch 2 performance patch + $20 Online PVP Mega Stones price tag.
>>58876398I probably have around the same but we all know how boosted that is from AFK memes before the DLC
Ranked ladder is honestly really fun. I used my mono Rock team to grind out to A rank the past few days and there thankfully wasn't too many legendaries. It being the most consistent way of getting caps and apriballs is also a good incentive to actually play online which SV sorely missed.
play the game and formulate your own opinion, perhaps
>>58874323It's ok filler in waiting for the next gen but the dlc fucking ruins it7/10 before dlc, 4/10 after dlc>>58875920It's absolute shit, padded rng cut postgame trash content and as buggy as SV on launch day. Fucking infuriating to play, if the artificial playtime rng fuckfest does not rage you out, the technical problems will. Every double/new mega battle is just a rage inducing button smasher of bugs and interrupted inputs/actions and the hyperspaces are just a stress inducing rush that also barely works, 0 playtesting at all.>catch pokemon undetected but there's no cover anywhere because the pokemon placement is just randomized>mega animations in double battles interrupt and cancel your button inputs and make you waste "turns", hope you enjoy this happening 3 times per each fucking double battle and dying due to your pokemon not being able to launch an attack three times in a fucking row while getting tagteamed by the npc attacks that get executed no problem>hope you like similar problems in the mega battles taht are also varying levels of buggy like pathfinding being a shitshow and pokemon getting stuck everywhere>Oh and also because so much is happening on the screen, even worse button input lag and outright ignoringI fucking love loosing a rogue mega battle because I have been tapping the button for 10+ seconds straight while the game tries to keep up with what is happening on screen and I black out because of it. They just slapped a "keep progress and try again" option because they know how bad it works, so there goes any strategy or trying, just repeatedly die again until you kill the boss while the game stutters and tries to function, no thought head empty
>>58876248you forgot about the rng needed to get the rng item to get the rng donut to enter the rng holes, and even if you get all of them right the rng in the rng hole liek pokemon placement rng, hyperspace task rng, hyperspace specific map rng and obstacle rng can still screw you over so you need to do all that rng all over again
Mixed bag, like every Pokemon game. The battle system is surprisingly well thought out and a really cool evolution for the franchise, but the game is a step back in pretty much every other area. The bigger focus on battling made it so that the catching mechanics are severely downgraded to the point where I wonder why they felt like they had to include the Arceus-style mechanics if they only include like half and remove several of them. Ends up feeling much more underbaked than it ever was in Arceus.Setting the game entirely within Lumiose didn't have to be a problem if they made the city highly detailed and varied, but it is a big bland city where everything looks the same and there is barely anything to do. Nothing but samey looking cardboard facades.That being said, I do think everything the Legends series has been doing so far is the direction the main series should go in. If they can just combine the good parts of both Arceus and Z-A we'd have easily the best games in the series, but I hate how GameFreak's monkey paw means that whenever they do good in one regard, they have to fuck up some other part.
>>58876989What makes you think the battle system is well thought out? In my experience, you just hit with whatever move will do the most damage and then spam everything else while waiting for the cooldown to finish. It's just Xenoblade, but with even less depth.
>>58875920I hacked in 999 hyperspace berries and froze the timer with cheats to make the experience bearable
>>58877015Npc trainers barely offer any challenge except for when you reach 5 star holograms or when you do that restaurant gauntlet thing. Protect is probably one of the most important moves in the game, so parrying attacks is mildly fun. You can dodge attacks with pivots moves and stuff like dig, bounce, or fly can dodge things completely too. You can time stuff so you can hit 3 moves while dodging what the opponent does. There’s some semblance of depth but it’s barebones
>>58874323Watching this franchise degrade Gen by Gen with people still buying it after Gen 7 legitimately surprises me. I do not know what can possibly stop this franchise from succeeding. It looks like it doesn’t matter how lazy they allow themselves to be, you will continue to buy as Gamefreak continues to test to waters with how much they can remove from a game and still make money.Now battles are removed, the entire region is a single city, and still half of the game is locked behind DLC. This should be a joke but it’s actually where we are.
>>58874323Its trash
>>58877015I meant stuff like translating the moves to work in three-dimensional space. Stuff like Fire Spin actually has use now because of the repeated AOE damage, weaker attacks that hit faster vs moves that have a slow wind-up matter. Moves getting you close to the opponent vs ranged attacks. Being able to dodge moves completely or using detect/protect to block. If you try engaging with it it becomes a lot more interesting than the turn-based system of just mashing the super-effective moves. The only real issue I have is the fact it takes a long while before your Pokemon actually start learning interesting moves, early game is very mashy like you describe. Once you get to Lv30 or so things get a lot better.
>>58875384Yeah you should have used that time to learn English.
>>58877155I wouldn't say they're hard, but I had mons dying all throughout my main playthrough just due to how speed is in this game, and I'd also say the level curve actually keeps everything you fight around the same as what you use(at least, it did in my experience). Again, still not hard by any stretch of the imagination, but I steamrolled NPCs a little less hard than your average pokemon game.
>>58875920/vp/ will call any Pokemon game shit but this one was legitimately the only one I couldn’t bring myself to finish.
>>58877366This DLC is the second mainline Pokemon game I couldn't bear to finish, after Sword & Shield.
>>58874323Padded out dogshit that'll never be worth replaying. Do not buy it, do not buy the DLC, and do not waste time interacting with the faggots who say otherwise.
>>58877396What's padded about it? It only took me 40 hours to beat the game, and I did all the side quests as they popped up.
>>58874323Absolutely terrible. A new low for the series.
>>58877427The repetitive night time sections, where you one-shot helpless trainers in order to unlock the next boss and repeat the process after that fight.
>>58877439It's definitely not padded in the main game, I could see being annoyed about having to do it in the post game for the infinite thing, but I found it fun to try and knock out as many as you can while doing the cards for better money multipliers.
>>58877444I didn't, because those kinds of battles were extremely shallow and sometimes the stealth mechanics would just completely break when you're 1 frame from hitting someone. The DLC is even worse.
>>58877458Yeah, but like, you could say this about fighting trainers in every pokemon game ever released? I get if you don't like how the game plays but I don't see how fighting a handful of trainers a few times between the ranked fights is padding.
Pokemon games as a whole are the definition of an INTRUSIVE story. It does nothing but waste your time having to mash trough endless dialogue boxes of inane boring talk with inane boring characters to keep you upto speed with in an inane boring story you dont give two shits about.
>>58877467>Yeah, but like, you could say this about fighting trainers in every pokemon game ever released?You could, but you'd be wrong. Trainers are obstacles in a regular Pokemon game. In ZA, they are the objective. It would be like if the gym leader of a town refused your challenge unless you fought everyone between him and the previous gym.ZA went all-in on a half-baked battle system, at the cost of everything else.
>>5887432310/10 base game, 4/10 DLC - which is surprising, because DLC for Gen 8 and 9 saved the base games.
>>58877475>You could, but you'd be wrong. I really don't see how. You're either forced to fight a lot of trainers you one shot in the older games because they're in the way, or willingly choose to fight them in SV to get the reward associated with clearing enough in an area. The battle system of this game makes everything faster, so trainer battles don't really waste your time too much, but again I don't see how it's any different here or there. It's not padding to have to fight some random trainers while trying to make more money while doing so(something you need a lot of to buy mega stones anyways).
>>58877496Because fighting trainers isn't the goal in the old games. They are something that can oftentimes be rewarded and/or punish bad timing. Fighting random nobodies IS the gameplay of ZA, there is nothing else to do at night.
>>58877528>oftentimes be rewardedOftentimes be avoided
>>58877528Fighting trainers IS the goal of pokemon, what the fuck are you talking about? Especially in ZA since the narrative is about finding the strongest mega evolution user to stop the incoming crisis, but in the old games you're fighting trainers to become the champion too.
>>58877165>Now battles are removed,???You aight, schizo?
>>58877534Fighting random nobodies is not the goal, it's an obstacle.
>>58877558You must hate every single pokemon game except for SV then, I guess.
>>58877562Nah
they recently patched berry purchase so you can now buy in bulks, awful games, no idea where the time was spend during the 2024 break year, if they won't get second dlc or fix more stuff then this game is 5/10 at best, worth playing, but awfully annoying to progress
>>58877581also who the fuck come up with this 3 minutes day and night bullshit, just make the night optional, or stop interrupting the gameplay, I had to reset for alpha goomy spawn because this shit game casually removed it from me by turning night time into day before I beat the alpha
>>58876688This is the first (official) Pokémon game I would really call hard, but only because the battle system is messy and janky, and the game is buggy.
>>58877581>no idea where the time was spend during the 2024 break yearWe know the delay wasn't for ZA development, it was content complete for ages. It was one of a few titles held back for the Switch 2 launch, but it also helped Pokemon's cadence issues. We won't see the fruits from that delay until Gen 10.
I seriously wonder if the people who say ZA is a good game ever played other games on switch besides pokemon
>>58874323Ugly Characters and they ruined Emma and Korrina.
>>58877915Nintendo consoles are for pokemon. PC is for other games.
>>58878014pls, Mario is the actual innovative series of Nintendo.
>>58878017lol
>>58878020Okay it's Zelda too.
>>58874323got it for 40 usd. it was fineworse than pla but better than xy at the very least. the ease of shiny hunting also make it better than shit like swsh
>>58878020Mario is literally the mascot of Nintendo though
>>58877943>kalospedo crying over a character no longer looking like a childyeah sound about right
