>>58880274
>2 examples
You lost

>>58880274
surely those two being rated as less powerful in later generations is purely because of the split exclusively, yes sir.

>58880274
>bitching about Sneasel when Weavile exists
>bitching about Misdreavus and Mismagius exists
Not even deserving of a (you), because you are full of shit and an attention whore, who made this thread several times in the past already. You don't even care about any of this.
Kill yourself faggot

>muh metagame
opinion discarded

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>>58880274
>the split was ba-

>>58880274
>>58880299
Comparing the same pokemon between the metagames of 2 different generations is ridiculous at best and down right disingenuous at worst. Like woah I can't believe speedboost blaziken went from ubers to uubl in only 1 generation it must be that she was nerfed and not that she was powercrept

>>58880299
>posts different pokemon
how do weavile and mismagius make sneasel and misdreavus better? you lost and got raped, sagefag

>>58880355
How does Sneasel hit harder in Gen 3 than in Gen 4?

>>58880274
>compfagging
kwab

>>58880274
Man, why are you obsessed with the split? Of all things you can choose to make your life revolve around you chose this, why?

>>58880355
because you can evolve your sneasel and misdreavus? nobody will use weaker version when stronger is available

>>58880398
glad you agree the split made sneasel and misdreavus worse

>>58880412
Your first stage pokemon were never going to be good in multi-player bro

>>58880398
This. Thank you split for making Porygon2 awesome.

>>58880412
See >>58880376

>>58880274
>MUH NU SHITMONS IN A FANFICTION METAGAME
the top mons in gen 3 and gen 4 are very similar. tyranitar. suicune. dugtrio. etc. nothing really changed other than stealth rocks and i hate this seethe over the shuffling of rankings of nobody cares shitmons that were never used in the first place.
>oh but scrimblo can't use shadow ball anymore
you never did that in the first place.

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Why are people replying to one of the most well known baits in this board?
Just reply with "muh fanfic meta" and sage it.
OP doesn't care, so neither should you.

>>58880299
>>58880297
How do I use those Pokemon in gen 3?

>>58880412
>split made sneasel and misdreavus worse
How is it the fault of the split?
It's Garchomp's fault.

>>58880578
Garchomp is only broken in the first place because of the split

>>58880566
The split wasn't in gen 3 dumbass

>>58880602
Exactly. So how can I use Weavile and Mismagius in gen 3 so I can compare and see how the split made them better?

>>58880606
You don't play the games so don't worry about it.

>>58880299
Now post their megas, Chien-Pao and Flutter Mane

>>58880628
>doubling down on not playing the games
I'd call you a compfag but you don't compete either lmao

Just another thread for the lazy Shirty-compromised moderators to ignore.

*yawn*

>>58880651
You should try copying me by playing the games next.

>>58880656
But you don’t play the games, so how would that be copying you?

I'll humor you, OP. Name the myriad of other mons who got shanked by the split

>>58880666
>repeats "you don't play the games back to me 40 times"
>how am I copying you though
zoomers lmao

>>58880670
I'll humor you, anon. Name the myriad of mons who got benefitted by the split

>>58880620
again, how can I use these pokemon pre-split?

>>58880423
Porygon Z was introduced in the same generation. Along with Rhyperior, Electavire, Magmortar, Roserade, and a handful of other cross-gen evos that were implemented in the same gen the split was to account for it.

>>58880606
Get a romhack

>>58880720
Reminder that "competitive" pokemon is the fanfic meta and is unsupported by GF. Gamefreak cares about the single-player experience more than shitty online play where all the teams are exactly the same.

>>58880734
Everyone is using Pachirisu?

>>58880734
Reminder that "single-player" pokemon is the campaignshitter tutorial and is unsupported by GF. Gamefreak cares about the multi-player experience more than shitty offline play where all you need is a single overleveled starter.

>>58880740
>more parroting
kwab

>>58880676
>Hitmonchan
>Crawdaunt
>Sharpedo
>Gyarados
>Tyranitar
>Feraligatr
>Salamance
>Medicham
>Gengar
>Azumarril
>Absol
>Flareon
>Kingler
>Sneasel (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Mismagius (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Electabuzz (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Magmar (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Rhydon (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Rosellia (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>magneton (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Lickitung (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Tangela (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>eevee (Through two new evolutions built around the split)
>porygon (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Togetic (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Aipom (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Yanma (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Murkrow (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Gligar (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Piloswine (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Kirlia (Through a new evolution with stats and moves geared towards physical combat)
>Nosepass (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Dusclops (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>SNorunt (Through a new evolution with stats and moves geared towards special combat)

>>58880749
>he's an eceleb schizo too

>>58880740
The game was not created with competitive play in mind. The link cable was in fact made to trade pokemon. The franchise is built not on michael vick dogfighting, but on bug collecting. The tagline was "gotta catch em' all!" not "Gotta battle em' all!". The games have always been built around single player, and just because you're a midwit who can only parrot my points back at me doesn't make me wrong.

Competitive pokemon isn't even balanced; if it was, genning pokemon would be legal, or the games would have some way to let you customize your pokemon fully for competitive play with perfect IVs, the exact EV spread you need, the right nature, held item, moveset, etc. A true competitive game should put all the players on even footing so only player skill matters, and since Pokemon fails to do that, it cannot be classified as a competitive game since two pokemon of the same species will be drastically different.

>>58880446
It's because the Sharty performs ancient Babylonian rituals to call upon ancient demons such as Labubu (Pazuzu) & Ba'al to temporarily possess their victims and make them post in these threads. Not even Aleister Crowley knew of this.

Posting in /vp/ is part of the aforementioned ritual BTW.

>>58880751
>Hitmonchan
dominant in NU to niche pick
>Crawdaunt
viable in NU to complete shit
>Sharpedo
RU to NU
>Gyarados
top tier OU to niche pick
>Tyranitar
remained top of OU but gained more counters (became worse)
>Feraligatr
stayed the same
>Salamance
top tier to banned because of faggy splittrany balance
>Medicham
OU to NU
>Gengar
lost elemental punches (but muh heckin staberinos!!)
>Azumarril
niche OU pick to just UU
>Absol
niche OU pick to just UU
>Flareon
literally who
>Kingler
literally who
>Sneasel (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Mismagius (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Electabuzz (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Magmar (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Rhydon (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Rosellia (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>magneton (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Lickitung (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Tangela (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>eevee (Through two new evolutions built around the split)
>porygon (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Togetic (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Aipom (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Yanma (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Murkrow (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Gligar (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Piloswine (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Kirlia (Through a new evolution with stats and moves geared towards physical combat)
>Nosepass (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>Dusclops (Through a superior evolution with better stats and moves)
>more campaignshitter cope
all dropped tiers. How does an evolution make a pokemon better? It's a different pokemon.

>>58880776
>lies
based

>>58880760
>A true competitive game should put all the players on even footing so only player skill matters,
Pokemon does just that. What stops you from obtaining perfect pokemon? They're not locked to specific copies.

>>58880274
explain why sneaser would be better if both of its stab are useless

>>58880782
It's all true. Play the game.

>>58880676
>esl
You're so cucked.

>>58880751
>lies
based

>>58880795
>avoids the question
Brown skin

>>58880809
>irrelevant and meaningless
>makes you cry every day on /vp/
kek

>>58880820
yet you cry whenever someone goes against your campaignshitter narrative, sagefag
kek

>>58880836
I don't care if you like the campaign or not, I just like talking to you when I'm looking for something easy.to insult.

>>58880842
I don't care if you like competitive or not, I just like talking to you when I'm looking for something easy.to insult.

60 posts and no one has actually explained how the split is good btw

60 posts and no one has actually explained how the split is bad btw

>>58880795
to not be fucking worthless

>>58880860
>60 posts and no one has actually explained how the split is bad btw
? but they did. You lost and got raped, sagefag

>>58880863
>pokemon can only use stab moves
>pokemon can only use moves with their higher attack stat
kek typical campaignshitter

>>58880853
>flattering someone is insulting them

>>58880854
>>58880860
more fun

>>58880274
>There are twice as many gens with the split than without
The split is here to stay thankfully

>>58880874
If they dont want to be useless, yes

>>58880898
>gengar in gen 3 is useless according to campaignshitters

>>58880904
>gengar in gen 3 is useless
Yes.

>>58880882
before split
>pokemon can choose to use their type defensively while attacking with strong coverage
>careful thinking about EV investment, might choose to invest in the weaker attack stat for a specific matchup
>types have an identity, for example Psychic is the strong special attacker type, Fighting the strong physical one, Rock is the physical tank, Steel the wall etc...
>after split
LMAO just spam your strongest stab move
LMAO just dump your evs in one attack stat
LMAO every type must have an 80+ power move of both attacks, fuck type identity
>conclusion:
The split is only more fun for 70 iq subhuman retards like campaignshitters and DStards.

>>58880912
>Gengar is a centralizing threat in ADV OU with amazing versatility
you lost and got raped, sagefag

>>58880932
>OU
not even the strongest tier = gengar is bad

>>58880932
>Abra used confusion!

>>58880925
>LMAO just dump your evs in one attack stat
Imagine malding for this long over claydol

>>58880938
Did Gengar lose its psychic weakness after the split?
You lost and got raped, sagefag.

>>58880945
>claydol
>OU to UU
another pokemon made worse by the split.

>>58880947
It gained usable ghost stab

>>58880274
What physical walls did Sneasel hard-counter with its 35-SpAtk Ice Beam?

>>58880925
autism + esl

>>58880776
Did you get that romhack?

>>58880958
?Gengar had Shadow Ball since gen 1. Play the game, campaignshitter

>>58880854
So I can hit Skarmory with a physical fire coverage, forcing the usage of more varied defensive setups than SkarmBliss

>>58880882
Notice how only the anti split fag seethed at this.

>>58880967
https://www.smogon.com/dex/rs/pokemon/gengar/

show me person using shadow ball on gengar in competitive

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>>58880967
>outing yourself as a retard that easily
LMAO

>>58880274
gen3 was more about the environment, secret bases, contests and berry blending than the battles being any fun. its only a good pokemon game for those that had to go through it.

>>58880988
>>58880996
What will his next move be?
>pretend that wasn't him
>ignore it and continue crying
>run away

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>most obvious bait thread gets 90 replies
death
to all of you

>>58881034
"how do I use Shadow Ball in gen 1"

>>58881037
>replies to the thread
Take your own advice and kys

>>58881037
>it’s bait because I can’t refute OP

>>58881043
Did you get that romhack yet?

>>58880988
doesn't use is not the same as can't use
tell me what ghost stab Gengar gained after the split
>>58880996
>campaignshitter can't back up his shitty arguments
>y-you made a minor error therefore you lose!!

>>58881043
>shadow ball is from gen 1
OP refuted himself.

>>58881059
>minor error
Don't dox yourself now

>>58881061
refer to >>58881059 faggot
>>58881065
XD have some reddit gold

>>58881059
>tell me what ghost stab Gengar gained after the split
all of them, its low attack negates stab

>>58881059
maybe you're also mistaken about the split?

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>>58880967

Yeah, the split was fantastic, it filtered retarded little children ever so badly.

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>people still fall for this shit

>>58882449
>it’s bait because I can’t refute OP

I'm pretty sure this guy has been whining about the split for longer than the split actually existed. Like, how many years has he been doing this shit?

>>58882498
2018

>>58880600
Garchomp has the stats and movepool to run mixed sets it would've still been great back then

>>58882537
It would’ve still been great solely due to STAB EQ coming off of 130 base attack. I think there were sets back then that used Fire Blast as well.

>>58882539
that's true
probably because having something to hit the one mon that resists your STAB combination super effectively (and against its weaker defensive stat) is a good thing
base 80 special attack isn't the end of the world when you're using it to nail something with 65 hp and 70 spd

>>58882537
Eeeeeh
Kinda just worse Salamence, with situational uses, honestly.
Salamence can superman, and has some critical points in special attack, along with effectively better physical bulk.
Garchomp as a platform is really, really banking on that fast(ish) 130 stab Earthquake. Electric immunity isn't really that important in gen 3 ou, Chomp's anemic special attack fucks it in a couple HP interactions, and you just aren't running Dragon Claw. Fire Blast is good, Surf and Crunch are pretty meh. Brick Break and Rock Slide are unspectacular but fine. Swords Dance, assuming it can get it, would give it a niche, but I don't actually think it does, since the TM isn't in gen 3. I can't remember if it was a tutor move in gen 3.
Probably the biggest changes are Tyranitar is a less safe team building choice, but still really good, Raikou is even more rare, and more shit than already does packs Ice Beam.
Like it's still OU, but, Salamence is is kinda just better for most teams. Chomp actually does kinda need the split, or moves introduced later, to do as well as it does.
...all of this assumes it isn't just banned for Sand Veil on principle anyways. Just assume it has Stench instead.

>>58882537
It would have been good. Not broken. Being able to use a basically unresisted STAB combo off of fucking 130 attack and not having to waste any investment in special attack is what made it broken.