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In retrospect, I think Gen 6 is the best Pokemon generation we've had. Gen 6 gave us:

>XY: the best initial pair of games, and the only one not overshadowed by an enhanced version

>ORAS: the best Pokemon remake and also a serious candidate for best Pokemon game ever

>Mega Evolution: the best battle mechanic

>Dex Nav and Soaring: two of the most soulful features ever

>Trainer Customization

Every other generation relied on selling the same game AGAIN, with a few added enhancements. Gen 6 doesn't do that. Instead, it gave us two pairs of amazing games. And whatever lore was left unfinished in XY, was addressed and fleshed out in ORAS (Mega Evolution's origin, the Ultimate Weapon, Infinity Energy, etc).
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>>58890659
best modern gen? probably, but I disagree it's overall the best gen but that's also because I've become increasingly cynical about gf and their lack of effort
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOUmRNnTBP0
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>have to buy another X copy since I gave mine away and somehow its the only one I can't find a used copy of in town
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>>58890666
13 years ago isn’t “modern”
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>>58890697
>Mega evolution just further encourages players to use shillmons over what they might grow to like organically.
Why did you use all the megas if you hate them so much?
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>>58890659
Didn't we already have this bait thread last week?
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>>58890728
op's cycling between making shill threads for lgpe, frlg, and gen 6. he's a weird little faggot
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>>58890727
point to the mega I used
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>>58890728
How is it bait?
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>>58890740
Because Pokémon became soulless corporate after Gen 2
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>>58890737
So it didn't further encourage you to use shillmons?
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>>58890734
At least he self deleted the ORAS base thread last week. Man, that was so bad I feel humiliated for him. I don't think I've seen someone BTFO that hard in years.

>>58890740
If you ask that, you are either new, stupid, part of OP's discord, or a mix of all 3.
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>>58890771
>If you ask that, you are either new, stupid, part of OP's discord, or a mix of all 3.
I’m asking it because you can never actually explain how it’s bait.
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>>58890659
People don't even remember gen 6 for gen 6. XY's world was so bland and easy to get through everyone just forgets about it. ORAS completely eclipsed it because it was a remake of a much better game and trainers actually used mega evolution.
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>>58890697
What’s a good moveset for delcatty in xy delcattyfag
I have return and sing but nothing else
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>>58890659
X and Y are the worst initial games, and ORAS are the worst remakes. Mega Evolution was trash as it could only be used by certain shillmons. Customization was in every gen after Gen 6 so it's not a plus for Gen 6 specifically, especially since customising options for Calem were so shit and only improved for the male protagonist in later gens.
Dex Nav and Soaring were also shit.
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>>58890806
>X and Y are the worst initial games
Not really

>Customization was in every gen after Gen 6
And not every gen before Gen 6
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>>58890697
>There is no reason to play ORAS over Emerald
Emerald is a great game, but ORAS is even better.
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>>58890734
>>58890771
Why are you talking to yourself, schizo?
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>>58890801
Depends what you want your Delcatty todo
What I used was
Return
Sing
Feint Attack
Wake up Slap
Feint Attack and Wake up slap allows her to deal with rock steel and ghosts, something a normal-type Pokemon normally has trouble fighting.
Sing is necessary for harder Pokemon games, but I found it unnecessary for XY. I cannot remember i if Work Up is obtained early in XY, but that too is a move I often use that is not very useful in XY because of O power and the large amounts of money you get. Maybe put on Thunder Wave or Play Rough instead.
Use Cute Charm over Normalize, Normalize sucks.
You could drop some of those attacking moves for some more utility, but I cannot remember the exact TMs XY gives you in the main story.
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>>58890830
>making gen 3 even easier makes it even better
okay
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>>58890659
I think it had the perfect art style too. I just wish the models were a bit more dynamic/saturated.
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>>58890812
You can't improve on perfection. No player character before Gen VI needed to change their clothes to look good. Aside from Nate maybe.
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>>58890845
Emerald is already a mash A to win game. There is no making it easier.
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>>58890883
>No player character before Gen VI needed to change their clothes to look good
Who said anything about looking good? It's an RPG. I should be able to change my character's clothes to make it look the way I want to.
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>>58890659
FRLG or HGSS are the best remakes in terms of being straight-up ugrades to the original games in ways that matter.
ORAS is stilll a good remake overall and does a lot of things that I wish other remakes did, like expanding the regional dex with cross-gen evolutions, but there are good arguments for playing Emerald which aren't there for RGBY/GSC over FRLG/HGSS.
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>>58890889
>which aren't there for RGBY/GSC over FRLG/HGSS
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>>58890771
Can you please link it? I wanna see this fag get btfo
Also he’s the one calling everyone schizo in comments
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>>58890894
I don't see the problem.
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>>58890734
He also does it for Gen 7
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>>58890889
ORAS > FRLG > HGSS

HGSS is very overrated and all its praise comes because of a Battle Frontier that it copy-pasted from Platinum.
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It's finally here. Gen 6 apologetics. I can't believe it took us this long.
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>>58890806
>Dex Nav and Soaring were also shit.
Bait used to be less obvious
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>>58890942
People were praising Gen 6 long before you posted on /vp/, underagefag.
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You just had to be there. The peak of Pokemon.
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>>58890806
Worst initial games are probably RS desu
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Time for the trvth nvkes.
Kalosbros think only 3 gens exist which is why 6 is the best to them.
6 does not do a single thing better than Gens 7, 8, or 9.
Mega evolution is worse than every gimmick that came out after.
ORAS is style over substance the game, the 2nd worst remake only beating FRLG.
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>>58890988
>Time for my personal head cannon
ftfy
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>>58890989
Bodied that freak.
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>>58890995
>3DS killed pokemons
how?
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>>58890957
The peak of Pokemon was from 2005-2012.
This is objective fact to everybody except you.
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>>58891012
>-2012
every time
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>>58891012
lol
lmao even
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>>58890659
XY were my first mainlines (not a little kid, just grew up playing Ranger) but despite the huge soft spot I have for them they’re not very good. It’s just a very bland and stripped down experience.
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>>58891040
Stripped down how?
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>>58891042
Like it was missing so many features that would usually come in with a third version. Things like an expanded postgame, improved storyline, more non-battle features, expanded routes that aren’t as linear. It feels incredibly basic, but of course these are all still problems in the modern games. Even the soundtrack to me sounds very generic JRPG instead of ‘Pokemon’.
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>>58890812
hi yawnfag
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Why does gen 6 make people so mad?
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>>58891049
> Like it was missing so many features that would usually come in with a third version.
But it isn’t a third version. Unlike third versions, it has dozens of new Pokemon and a whole new region. So how is it stripped down?

Sounds more like you’re just mad that Game Freak didn’t scam you into effectively buying the same game twice.
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>>58891085
Jealousy from zoomers.
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>>58891106
But why come here and start seething? No other gen brings you people out like this.
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>>58891106
>Right here we have a schizobro that thinks Gen 6 is one of the older gens
That's not what he said. You sure you're not the schizo?
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>>58891128
>he
GEG!
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>>58890722
If fairy types exist in it, it's inherently a nugen.
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>>58891091
XY came out in the zoomer age and even they hate it. That can't be good.
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>>58891150
>If phys/spec split exists in it, it's inherently a nugen.
ftfy
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>>58891153
>XY came out in the zoomer age and even they hate it
Because the game caters to boomers and that makes them jealous, yes.
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>>58891172
>If dark and steel types exists in it, it's inherently a nugen.
We can keep this going.
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>>58891172
I'm glad you agree that Gen 6 is a nugen.
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>>58890906
https://archive.palanq.win/vp/thread/58879459/#q58879459
Tried to pretend ORAS bases were better because you could have battles in them like a gym.

The thread pointed out that not only was that in RSE, but it also allowed teams of 6 while ORAS only lets you use 3 like the shit remake it is.
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>>58891192
That's actually as far as you can go.
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>>58891204
RSE Secret Bases ≠ ORAS Super Secret Bases. You also have your own Gym Grunts in ORAS.

Also, ORAS vastly improved Secret Bases as a whole. You'd know this if you actually played the games.
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>>58891204
>(Oh, and before you say anything, the Battle Frontier is overrated garbage)
You just know he would be saying the exact opposite if it was in ORAS.
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>>58891007
made it ugly and washed out instead of soulful
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>>58891200
I'm glad you agree that the two gens before it are a nugen.
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>>58891291
I forgot, you can have a trainer in your base that uses a FUCKING WURMPLE!

That's so much better than having a team of 6 pokemon.
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>58891172
>58891326
Parroting is an admission of defeat.
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>>58891525
Thanks for admitting defeat.
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>>58891291
>>58891519
Don't forget, the trainers can also be worse Join Avenue NPCs too.
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>>58891150
This is a solid line of demarcation, as the only major change after the introduction of Fairy is giving Dark type a passive in Gen 7, while the only generation before Fairy was added without a major change is Gen 5. Basically, the pattern before Fairy is general evolution of fundamental battle mechanics, the pattern after it is temporary battle gimmicks that are all ending up on that ring in Champions (although to be fair to the mechanics they were meant to be temporary per-battle and not temporary per-game before Dexit so at least there was intended to be accumulation).
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>>58891556
Honestly that's a huge benefit, especially compared to the disappointment that was Festival Plaza immediately afterwards or the fucking nothing of XY. Most multiplayer features wish they could be worse Join Avenue (for example, the godawful BW Black City/White Forest).
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>>58891172
This is a solid line of demarcation, as the only major change after the introduction of Phys/Spec split is adding Fairy type in Gen 6, while every generation before Phys/Spec split was added had a major change. Basically, the pattern before Phys/Spec split is general evolution of fundamental battle mechanics, the pattern after it is temporary battle gimmicks like gems and Z-moves.
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>>58891579
thanks for admitting defeat
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>>58891519
Hey now, you can also use Inverse Battles in a fun and interesting way, unlike XY. A lot of ORAS was using XY's content in ways that XY refused to (for example, making it fun) but unfortunately is actively hindered by it as well (godawful constant loading, the Battle Maison being complete dogshit, the models lagging out the game while the animations are unfortunately stiff meaning there's barely any visual benefit, overworld art style being the second worst the series had to offer meaning it's barely an improvement over RSE's fucky spritework).
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>>58891582
I didn’t admit defeat though.
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>>58891315
>You just know he would be saying the exact opposite if it was in ORAS.
No, I genuinely like the Battle Maison, and I dislike the overrated Emerald Battle Frontier.

The only thing that I dislike about ORAS, is that it mentions the Battle Frontier in-game. They did that as a small nod to Emerald, an innocent Easter egg, but people took it the wrong way.
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>>58891590
yeah you did, right here >>58891579
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>>58891579
There's zero difference between gems and white herb or red card or even the brand new blunder policy, you dumbass. All them are consumable and need to be sourced every time you use them outside of multiplayer. On the other hand, the Omni-ring gimmicks instead rely on either permanent items or a fundamental aspect of the Pokemon (or in case of Dynamax, fucking nothing, worst gimmick) and are refreshed every battle (or mid-battle in USUM under the correct conditions).
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>>58891593
No I didn’t.
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>>58891594
White Herb and Red Card are still in the games. Gems aren’t. It was just a temporary gimmick.
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>>58891519
ORAS Super Secret Bases are better than RSE Secret Bases, even with that in mind. Mainly because in ORAS, you have a much bigger item selection that you can place, and a much bigger item limit for your Secret Base.

You'd know this if you actually played ORAS, you moron.
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>>58891596
yeah you did, right here >>58891579
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>>58891603
No I didn’t.
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>>58891591
What's fun about the Battle Maison? Singles and to a lesser extent Rotations are trivialized by True Ant, and Doubles/Triples/Multi with humans and to a lesser extent Multi with AI are trivialized by FEAR. Like it's bad enough the International Crystal Battle Tower was complete ass and could be trivialized by Aerodactly in level 10, or that B2W2 introduced the True Ant problem in the first place and was extremely impacted by it in several formats of the various battle facilities. But even at it's best ignoring everything else it's just the Battle Tower but with two formats that lag out the 3DS and are barely differentiated enough to get a separate breakdown on Smogon's guides, while cutting the iconic online based format that's been in the games with online since Japanese Crystal. Like, I know Battle Palace is a war crime and I think the Emerald BF would genuinely be better off without it, but the Battle Pyramid more than makes up for it and makes shit like the Trainer Tower or Black Tower/White Treehollow look bad in comparison.
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>>58891613
You simply use your favorites instead of these cheese comps.
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>this thread again
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>>58891597
Normal Gem is still in the fucking games, you can get it right now, what are you on about? Hell, the other gems are in the game data, including a Fairy Gem that has never been obtainable. Furthermore, that's not relevant between several other held items like the Berserk Gene (which is consumable) or
Polkadot Bow (which is one of those permanent type boosting items) have also been removed, while Megas were in two generations in a row and have appeared in several other games despite being the father of the modern gimmick (down to Dynamax using the Mega button in the Sword prototype after it forked from Let's Go). Your argument is simply not based on any sort of fact.
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>>58891613
Have you tried NOT using Tru Ant or FEAR tactics? Have you tried just winning with your favorites?

As for the Battle Pyramid, I managed to get both Silver and Gold Symbols in it in Emerald, but it's just so annoying on replays.
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>>58890737
Nonstop victory
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>>58891626
>Normal Gem is still in the fucking games,
Now tell me how I get the other Gems.
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>>58891621
>You simply use your favorites instead of these cheese comps
This
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>>58891609
yeah you di- hey, it's getting late. I should go to bed.
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>>58891625
>>this thread again
Yes.
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>>58891579
Yep.
>Gen 2
Special split
>Gen 3
Abilities, IVs, EVs
>Gen 4
Phys/Spec split

After this, fundamental changes to the battle system stopped and everything else has just been minor additions to the same framework.
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>>58891642
why are you replying to your own post?
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>>58891621
Fair, the second question is still relevant though, Triples are basically Doubles and Rotations are basically Singles. It's more differentiation in format than the Gen 6 restaurants compared to the Battle Institute, but it's not great. On the other hand, things like the Battle Factory and Battle Pyramid change up the gameplay a lot despite both being essentially Singles formats, and even the PWT Type Expert formats require some teambuilding diversity. It seems to me like there's just less meaningful differentiation in the Battle Maison without even the change in Pokemon pool that WiFi mode brought (for better or for worse given how there were zero hack checks for that shit).
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>>58891204
>The thread pointed out that not only was that in RSE
It wasn't, tho. You could battle in your RSE Secret Base (with 6vs6 Pokemon, like you said) but your Secret Base was just a Secret Base. Not a Gym.

In ORAS, you can actual set the music in your Secret Base to be the Gym theme, and countless more things that RSE Secret Bases lacked.

But you need to actually PLAY ORAS in order to know that. Instead of just shitting low quality posts on veepee 24/7.
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>>58891643
I didn’t. Why are you seething so hard?
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>>58891632
Hacking, and I'm talking the simple shit like Game Shark or save editing, no mods needed. How do you use each gimmick more than once in battle? RNG in USUM single-player? Because you can use as many gems as the game will let you in battle, which is usually 6 but I'm sure there's some Funbro bullshit I'm missing.
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>>58891658
>Hacking,
So it was a temporary gimmick. Good to know.
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>>58890659
>>XY: the best initial pair of games,
I gave you the first sentence as a generous pile of salt but I cannot abide any more of your nonsense here.
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>>58891627
I just wanted a ribbon for my ribbon master and a Starf Berry. Gen 6 Battle Maison was the second most miserable part of that journey after Gen 4 Battle Tower's slow as shit multiplayer modes. Gen 5's Battle Subway is basically the same damn thing down to the Japanese dialouge for tons of NPCs (and of course all the Pokemon copy-pasted from Gen 4), but not as slow as Gen 6's laggy bullshit. Even then Battle Subway isn't the strong point of Gen 5, it's just kinda there and is patently okay. Pokestar Studios kind of mogs it in presentation (unless you want to fuck the train twins) and is basically worse Battle Sims which honestly give me more of that shit I love puzzle solving. Or give me another Orre game in general, I also like working with the limited but fairly diverse Pokemon pool (probably why I'm so enamored with PWT's Type Expert tournaments).
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>>58891602
Who the fuck cares about having slightly more decorations? I want a 6v6 battle.

Honestly, it's like you never played RSE and don't understand why they ORAS fails as a remake.
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>>58891571
>Honestly that's a huge benefit,
Is it? Did we REALLY need worse Super Training, a feature that was already available BEFORE you could get a base?
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>>58891665
That's not what gimmicks are, dipshit. As seen in
>>58891565
>although to be fair to the mechanics they were meant to be temporary per-battle and not temporary per-game before Dexit so at least there was intended to be accumulation
If Megas were in every game, they'd still be a gimmick. Hell, them being in several games already and still function like every other gimmick after it means it's a gimmick. Where's the button to press to activate gems? Megas, Z-Moves, -maxing, Terastallization, and even Primal Reversion all use a separate button to activate it. Hell, Wonder Launcher from Gen 5 is more like a gimmick than Gems are.
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>>58891701
>That's not what gimmicks are
Yes it is.
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>>58891650
Congratulations, you listed out a lot of small features that were used to mask how bad ORAS bases are in comparison.
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>>58891691
>Who the fuck cares about having slightly more decorations?
It's like twice as many decorations, not "slightly more". And everyone cares about it, except you.

>Honestly, it's like you never played RSE and don't understand why they ORAS fails as a remake.
ORAS doesn't fail as a remake. ORAS absolutely mogs RSE thanks to the improved Secret Bases, DexNav, Soaring, Mirage Isles, Delta Episode, Mega Evolutions, much better OST, fantastic redesigns, etc.
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>>58891705
You are retarded.
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>>58891695
Super Training is already straight up worse than Swarms (it's amazing how Gen 6 can fail even in comparison to itself), so having things other than EV items is nice. Maybe not as nice as Join Avenue or Pokepelago, but better than XY's fucking nothing. MAX O-Powers not being locked behind a specific cart is also neat, but that's just me.
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>>58891707
With how much it's missing from RS, the shitty overworld art style, the negatives in general game flow, and several other negatives you listed like Delta Episode, it's more of a sidegrade to RS. If I wanted to play a more multiplayer focused version of RS yeah it's better, but if I just want to play the video game RS better, and Emerald lets me do the latter while also having something to do when I'm done playing the video game while ORAS is hamstrung by half dead stuff and half actually nice to have things like Street Pass and QR codes (again better than XY having fucking nothing). There's a lot to like about ORAS, unfortunately none of it is in comparison to RS and all of it is in comparison to XY.
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>>58891707
>Secret Bases
Not as good as RSE. Fails to provide challenge battles.
>DexNav,
Good thing.
>Soaring
No, Not at all. Came at the price to annihilating the game's balance by giving a free Mega Lati way too early into the game. At the end of the day, it's just using fly but it takes longer and you can sometimes find static encounter legendaries in the post game.
>Mirage Isles
Really, you liked them enough to list here?
>Delta Episode
Good thing, Doesn't make up for the lack of a Battle Factory.
>Mega Evolutions
We'll call this a neutral point when you consider how many are in the main game. Better than XY, but at the end of the say, it's just more pokemon. A good thing, but something that should be expected.
>much better OST
You didn't play ORAS. The music is good to play, but in game, it doesn't work as well as a soundtrack.
>fantastic redesigns
Ehhhh, I miss old Shelly.
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Pokemon needs another huge leap like Gen 6. To surpass the highs of 2013.
They're still struggling with game visuals, not only the fidelity but also the amount of detail in the world. All the towns and landmarks in Kalos looked great, almost identical to drawings made in 2011. People here and elsewhere kept parroting some F A K E X-Files leak, so I was surprised by the real leaked art being very close to the final game (aside from South Kalos).
Open world freedom great for Pokemon, but Paldea looks ugly and dry most of the time. They fixed the performance in ZA dramatically, but sacrificed the building textures and facade details to make that happen. We shouldn't have to choose, and I hope Game Freak isn't cursed. Wind Waker is even more ambitious, so I'm worried they might be biting off more than they can chew AGAIN.
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>>58891721
>>58891738
Maybe I'm being too harsh with you guys. Maybe you just have shit taste.
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>>58891707
>>58891738
I want to personally say Delta Episode's only good part is fighting Deoxys in space. Everything else is miserable from the shitty cutscenes to the bad writing that makes people misunderstand how the Pokemon multiverse works to making Sky Pillar worse. On the other hand, something nobody mentioned is how cool Regigigas is as a secret. That's some bullshit in the best way possible. If there were more things like that or the stuff HGSS did to flesh out the world (and the origins of Mr. Bonding barely counts) I think I would forgive some of the other changes that aren't related to the Gen 6 engine (I get it, you can only do so much and they did great with the multiplayer features which is playing to the strengths of the engine).
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>>58891744
So close. He's SO FUCKING CLOSE to finally having a tiny bit of self awareness.
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>>58891744
In HGSS, they restored several areas removed from Kanto in GS
In ORAS, they changed an entire dungeon in design but cut another basically entirely by reducing it to a single room
In HGSS, their response to the EU having ridiculous gambling laws was to make an entire new minigame for the western release on top of the new ones they were already adding in the Pokathelon
In ORAS, their response to the EU having ridiculous gambling laws was just to scrap it entirely and copy-paste some stuff from Lumiose while adding no new minigames
There's a very clear change in attitude between games, and I'm going to be honest that shit's on Ohmori as a director. Case in point, USUM as the only proper third version to one of his games really shows the kind of stuff he lacks.
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>>58891702
Guess that means the Gen 2 berries are gimmicks since they didn't return in future games.
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>>58891711
>Super Training is already straight up worse than Swarms
Hordes btfo your faggy swarms
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>>58890659
XY were first pair of games that felt unfinished.

ORAS is good game, but i personaly hate it. The design changes were too much. They are too goofy.

Mega Evos are shit.
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>>58890806
>ORAS are the worst remakes.

Bro i hate Oras and i think thats stupid.
They are great games. But shitty remakes. DP remakes are still WAY worse.
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>>58892351
>can get hidden abilities in game
More finished than the previous gen
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>>58891765
>In ORAS, they changed an entire dungeon in design but cut another basically entirely by reducing it to a single room
ORAS also expanded Scorched Slab a lot, but you guys never mention that. Not to mention there are around 40 new isles accessible via Soaring. And 3 new isles with Secret Bases accessible via Diving.
>In ORAS, their response to the EU having ridiculous gambling laws was just to scrap it entirely and copy-paste some stuff from Lumiose while adding no new minigames
ORAS added Pokemon Amie (which includes 3 minigames) and the Super Training minigames from XY, all of which are obviously absent in HGSS. These absolutely replace the silly Game Corner minigames from RSE.
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>>58892803
HGSS also adds the Pokeathlon with 10 minigames.
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>>58892351
>XY were first pair of games that felt unfinished.
How?
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>>58892839
And HGSS lacks things like Secret Bases and Contests to begin with.
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>>58892930
But in return you get a second region and loads of content to keep you coming back.
Sounds like HGSS is the winner. Sorry you were in diapers when it released.
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>>58892325
Berries returned in future games. Try playing something other than gen 5 :)
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>>58892950
How do I get the Gold Berry in XY and ORAS?
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>>58892965
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Sitrus_Berry#Acquisition
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>>58892974
That's the Sitrus Berry. Glad we agree that the Gen 2 berries are just gimmicks.
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>>58893000
You talk like an actual autistic faggot.
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>>58893000
>That's the Sitrus Berry
Which is the Gold Berry, yes.
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>>58892803
>ORAS also expanded Scorched Slab a lot, but you guys never mention that. Not to mention there are around 40 new isles accessible via Soaring. And 3 new isles with Secret Bases accessible via Diving.
Between the lack of map design and new assets, they feel pretty bad in comparison to even the shitty single rooms HGSS on B2W2 added for several legendary Pokemon. The only reason I'd consider Scorched Slab an improvement is if there was some new details about the place it's based on discovered (for the record, it's considered one of the possible locations of Amano Iwato). If not it's frankly just padding.
>ORAS added Pokemon Amie (which includes 3 minigames) and the Super Training minigames from XY, all of which are obviously absent in HGSS. These absolutely replace the silly Game Corner minigames from RSE.
HGSS copy pasted shit from Platinum too, but still decided to go the extra mile.
It sounds to me like their priority wasn't making a good remake or improving the game based on it's own strengths, but making efficient use of time and assets which got the game released but leaves it generally unimpressive compared to even the scuffed FRLG.
>>58892930
And in return it improved on the strong points of GS in order to make the best possible remake of the game. Yeah, it's a little shit that they basically didn't improve the JRPG part of it at all, but that's better than ORAS actively making the good parts of RS worse with the constant fucking loading and changing the Pokemon pool at the very ass end of the game when the game design at that point is already borderline experimental. Hell, functionally getting Fly before Route 119 changes a lot of context about that route and the overall map design, but that's honestly a minor issue in comparison frankly. I don't respect it as a remake, but I do have to admit I respect it as a Gen 6 title, as it's essentially everything good about XY attached to a better game. I guess if we can agree on that point it's up to taste.
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>>58893006
Sound familiar, Yawnfag?
>>58893008
No, they're two completely different berries. Glad we agree that the Gen 2 berries are just gimmicks.
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>>58893024
>gets insulted
>cries about his eceleb
Every time with you. You're just an unlikable person. Do you call your mom yawnfag when she tells you to clean your room?
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>>58892950
gen 5 has berries retard
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>>58893028
Hmm, which one has the entirety of /vp/ gunning after them?
The one who singlehandedly ruined retro Pokemon discussion by swearing Gen 6, a game with more in common to the slop we're getting nowadays, is totally "le heckin golden era guiz"?
Or the imaginary boogeyman which prefers the time where Pokemon could stand among the likes of classic Nintendo franchises such as Mario, Zelda, or Kirby due to sheer quality alone?
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>>58893028
And you're not unlikable? You're the one trying to force your shitty opinions when the reality of the situation is there's very good reasons not to like Gen 6 tied directly to intentional design choices and aesthetics. Hell, even the opening post is just straight up fucking wrong in several aspects, including the story given it's written by a completely different writer than the usual one. Granted, Yawnfag is even more unlikeable than you are, so I don't think you're too far gone or anything.
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>>58893024
>No, they're two completely different berries
One heals 30 HP when you drop below 50% HP
The other heals 30 HP when you drop below 50% HP

please point out where the "completely different" part is
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>>58893055
Let's not be too hasty, Pokemon has rarely been as good as Kirby, even the extremely weak period from Nightmare in Dreamland to right before Super Star Ultra coincided with Pokemon kinda floundering, and HGSS barely hits the highs of SSU to begin with. Pokemon could learn a lot from Kirby though, that's a baby game with quality. Air Riders also BTFO's Yawnfag's dislike of options, man that's a great options menu.
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>>58893055
Are you asking a real question? Because its you that is ruining this board by not being able to ignore anything about gen 6. Why do you care if someone likes oras or xy and why do you always spam the exact same things when you talk about it. You never try to have actual discussions, which is ironic for someone crying about not being able to discuss things.

>Pokemon could stand among the likes of classic Nintendo franchises such as Mario, Zelda, or Kirby due to sheer quality alone?
Kirbyfags lmao
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>>58893056
>no u
>eceleb obsessing
Retard. I don't care if you disike gen 6 and it's probably like my 5th favorite out of the generations I have played. I'm just insulting you and you're so deranged that you think anyone insulting you must 100% disagree with everything you say.
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>>58893055
XY is a fantastic retro game though, so that doesn't make any sense
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>>58892940
>But in return you get a second region and loads of content to keep you coming back
Not really, no
>Sounds like HGSS is the winner. Sorry you were in diapers when it released.
I've been playing since GSC, idiot and ORAS is the clear winner over HGSS.
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Wow she's still doing it in 2026



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