Pokemon SV has become the second best selling Pokemon game of all time.
It did, like 8 months ago? Just tell me if Z/A is flopping so I can laugh at Nintendo
>>58894769Its strange how despite all the sales I've never heard anyone talking about or seen anything related to gens 9 and 8 in public. Its like the gaming equivalent of the Avatar movies.
>>58894794Because most nu-pokemon fans don’t buy Pokémon games to play them, they buy them solely because of the brand name. They play up until the first gym then never touch it again,
>>58894794>>58894805SV won.
>>58894810GameFreak won, fans lost
>>58894769that's sad
>>5889477312 million copies if going by this thread >>58894629
>>58894769Arceus WON
>>58894836So the same as legends of arceus. Lame, I was hoping for less
>>58894794>anything related to gens 9 and 8 in public>Cards>Plushes>FiguresAre you live under a rock?
im more shocked sword and shield are the third
>>58894769...if you're disingenuous and count rereleases as separate games.
It doesn't matter if they're the worst games in the series, anything released on the Switch will sell more than any past game.
>>58894925Good thing they are not the worst games in the series then.
>>58894928You're right, Sword and Shield are.
>>58894812Fans won too. Overly obsessed manchildren lost. Again, by the way.
>>58894937Overly obsessed manchildren won, because they're the only ones who buy every single release + DLC + online tax.
>>58894769Deserved!
>>58894925PMD DX and New Snap flopped HEAVENS hard. Seems it's not the Switch that pushes sales, but Game Freak's Pokémon on Switch.
>>58894935>>58894928Kek what kind of cope is this. SV is the worst, SwSh maybe 2nd or 3rd worst depending on ZA
>>58894769Wait a minute if the switch 2 has 17 million does that mean most people own legends za
>>58894939Oh, so I can call your mother an obsessed manchold so?I mean, she bought every game, rehash AND remake plus tip plus tax plus pogeymans cardies for her bwave wittle soldiew until he grew up to be a big disappointment after all.
>>58894953>implying i own any of the switch games
>>58894958Even better, you're admitting you're an actual obsessed retard manchld watching the series pass you by and seething impotently as it witnessed a resurgence in public consciousness.
>>58894769kwab looks like za was a flop considering it sold less than arceus
>>58894945SV at least has a fun story with a finished conclusion and a functional open world. SwSh doesn't have anything, it only looks nicer in a handful of areas.
>>58894958And not buying any switch games does not absolve you from the fact your mother did in fact fund your habit with games that suffered the exact same issues when compared to games made for teenagers and up, the same way you're crying over the Switch games "suddenly" not matching up to games that are intended for an utterly different audience than the average child. Proving your ignorance AND an inability to accept what the series historically has been is a bold strategy, I must say.
>>58894965It was an adequate step-up from SM. The problem is you lot don't understand Game Freak don't chase technical perfection AND need to do on-the-job training in the form of testing out concepts in this game to implement them in the next (SS's Wild Area becomeing SV's open world map).
>>58894971Why are you so mad that people notice the objective decline in quality?
>>58894965>SV>fun story >fun anything KekSwSh is at least playable, its still awful, just not as awful. Id rather go play LGPE
>>58894769>Nintendo switch is most sold console>Nintendo Switch 2Two console game but ZA is selling less than LA Lmao
>>58894974>technical perfectionFucking lmao, how about an absolute iota of technical competence (let's not talk about ZA holyfuck)>mainline release for one of or the biggest franchise in the world >everyone is just an on the job trainee.. somehow that's true for every game and they get progressively worse with each releaseLmao
>>58894987Why are you projecting your fee-fees onto people who don't share your viewpoint? World has made its choice, they support what Pokémon's doing despite the spastics squealing about performance. The fact we're having this discussion here instead of r/gaming with the casual scum of the internet kinda disproves "people noticing the objective decline in quality" when it never had any back then either, but shitheads like you are blinded by nostalgia to accept it only ever was a mid, kid-focused series, regardless the presentation.
>>58894937>shit games>consoomers buy it anyone because anime tie in and kids>fans wonLol, lmao even. Fans lost. Its worse than shovelware slop. GameFreak dont need to make good games when people will just buy it anyway. Its too big to fail unless something drastic happens.
>>58895008>biggest kid-focused franchise in the world>this automatically means they NEED to cater to the most hideously mentally deluded gamers imagineableAmazing how a game-a-year was FANTASTIC to you as a child, but now suddenly it's bad, because they're not targeting you with their game-a-year shtick, huh?
>>58895014You lost the instant you got mummy to buy you in then. It's ALWAYS been a mid series focused on children and ignoring adult concerns (Tajiri told Mario Club in 1994 to shut the fuck up asking for the game to be made more challenging as he was intending it to be aimed at children from the get-go). Small wonder despite the improvements in hardware over the last 30 years, game Freak haven't once opted to use that better hardware to present a game more in line with adult sensibilities.
Grim
>>58895015>>58895015Or. You know, they could just make good games, they certainly have the production budget, resources, brand recognition, marketing power, budget for testing etc to do so. It doesnt need to be targeted for a specific niche, just make it good>muh kid focused shield defense Its garbage. There's plenty of kid focused games that are actually good games. Pokemon isn't among them. The bottom line is they are genuinely bad games, it is supported by brand driven consumption. Hence they can get away with whatever lazy slop they produce to whatever low standard Nintendo will still tolerate
SV is the sloppiest slop that ever stopped. Captive audience and identity purchase.
>>58894794I suspect that since pokemon go, people buy the game from the name alone but never play it. And for some reason people don't care about spin-offs either. >>58894941It's really weird.
>adult concerns and sensibilities >muh difficulty LGPE is a better game than mainline like SV, SwSh etc despite having less of that and being more simplified and easier
>>58895025Why? Waste of money when it's aimed at 7 year olds (again, they didn't put time or effort into their graphical presentation in Gen 3 and didn't do fuck-all else but the same shit as they'd done in Gen 1 and 2 and STILL sold 16m >>58895010). The sad thing is you'd rather sit screeching about being ignored, than moving on and finding that thing that cares you're a thing in the world, as they need money and need to focus on (You) for it.
>>58895010Hi yawnie!
>>58895034People never cared about the spin-offs after pokémania (Stadium and Pinball selling nearly 5.5m each, Colosseum and Pinball RS selling 2.4m and 1.3m respectively). It's no wonder the first to actually capture the mass-market was basically an adaptation of the core games transplanted into an AR game based on your immediate area.
>>58894769>DEI woke slop with ugly characters wonYeah this franchise is long dead
>>58895052Your boogyman in in another thread.
>>58894941>rehash the first game but in worse presentation and lazy recycled models AND cut off features>it flopsgee who'd have thought
>>58895059Your posting style is too distinct and you reuse the same images 100+ times.
>>58895065Because it's still so fucking relevant to the discussion at hand. You wankers squeal it doesn't match "adult sensibilities" when we all know if you met that back in the day as an adult instead of a context-blind faggot child, you wouldn't care about it, you'd cry about it and in general shit from on high that they aren't trying to "be better2. So go fuck off an find something that will, Pokémon doesn't want to. No amount of venting your fee-fees online will change that either.
>>58895060>furfag shocked to discover kids don't actually like furfag sim when they have actual core pokémon games to play instead of play in desperation because there's no new core pokémon to play
>>58895065>My takes are so boring that everyone becomes yawnfag!
>>58894867If the leaks are true in two years we will have another legends similar to Arceus and this year a mainline game.Scarlet has the power of 2 years without a game and SwSh the being the first mainline game, ZA is fucked more with the shitty DLC+being the first action game
>>58895117You're not subtle.
>>58895120That was not an attempt at being subtleThis is what we mean when we say you're boring
>>58895118Gen 10 is probably going to get drawn out like SV did, and the next Legends game will get pushed back to accommodate later projects. Unless Legends Galar has some sort of everygreen or PvP modes to keep players engaged for a whole year or more.
>>58895123Archives exist, yawnie. Everyone knows your posting style. Everyone knows your "gotcha" images.
>>58894769That happened last year, dumbass. It also became the best selling Pokemon game ever in Japan
>>58895134And everyone knows your mother.
>>58894769Did SwSh sell another million?
>>58895127I wish, but even without another Legends in 2027 the timing is going to hurt ZA like it did with Arceus.
>>58894769Impressive. Let's see the game's reviews.
>>58895188Which only makes you wonder how much more can SV sell considering some people won't be able to get the brand new open world Pokemon game and the Switch 2, making them settle for the previous one
Legends Z-A are objectively the better games though
>>58895006Yes, SV is fun. SwSh isn't.
>>58895565This. Its the consensus that despite the game looking and running like turbo dog shit, SV is enjoyable to play. Open world mechanics naturally compliment Pokemon as a concept. /vp/ contrarian echo chambers need not apply.
>>58894769>be kinnoh >succeed>be kalos>failwhat was gamefreak thinking starting this series with kalos and now galar, 2 unpopular regions
>>58895598And it doesn't even run like shit now, thanks to Switch 2, gen 9 (both games) are the best pokemon ever ran by far. The colors of SV are still washed sadly but that's hardly an issue considering the fun and big world(s)
>>58895643PLZA sold better than PLA in the same time frame
>>58895188Based SwSh
>>58895662PLA sold 12.64 million, with the remakes being released 2 month before and the next gen being released 10 month later.And ZA was the first game released in 4 years so...
>>58894769The pokéworld has fallen.
>>58895673RGB, SV and SwSh are the kings, I kneel
>>58895657Yeah, runs perfectly fine on S2. Looks like dogshit still, but runs great.
>>58895673>>58895856>Next game will be like SV/SM>Next legends will be like SwSh >After that , they will release a game for genwun nostalgia>ZA floped so they will never use XY nostalgia.I kneel at those three
>>58894870>Cards>Plushes>FiguresI see more people with plushies of pokemon from the first 4 gens than of anything from 8 or 9. For figures I'll admit I've seen like one of Nemona at a hobby store but no other character or mon from those games.
>>58895662>PLA: released on January (so on the post-holiday season), two months after BDSP and one month before the next mainline game was announced>ZA: released on October (so still fresh to have its sales boosted by holidays), on an unheard of 4-year drought of Pokémon games, got a DLC (released right before the holidays for maximum boost)Z-A had the obligation to sell A LOT more than PLA. A fucking lot more. It not completely blowing PLA numbers means it was failure in comparison.
>>58895662ZA is literally bundled with the fastest selling console of all time
>>58894794Modern Pokemon fans have embraced the worst aspects of the Japanese audience.If you don't have anything positive to say, shut your mouth. Combine that with the overall exposure of the IP and you get the image of a near flawless game on paper, people buy or rent it, realise it's shit but they won't say anything about it because by now the "You've bought it anyway" card (Even though the aforementioned people probably refunded it) is the default dismissal of any criticism for the fully priced titles.I am utterly convinced that Gamefreak could release a game that is centered around excrements and grown ass man children would defend it for some deeper meaning.Which would be right, because both of them would be very deeply full of shit.
>>58895887>It not completely blowing PLA numbers means it was failure in comparison.I was with you up until this. This makes no sense, doing not as well as it could isnt "a failure" when it still sold well, AND generates extra revenue by virtue of it having paid DLC.
I just don't get how SV are the second most selling games, yet the Pokemon and characters featured may as well be an enigma to the casual Pokemon fandom. Who the hell is buying these games?
>>58894870hes right tho, all i see at the store are KANTOOO plushes and maybe some random piplup
>>58895921Japs
>>58895921>yet the Pokemon and characters featured may as well be an enigma to the casual Pokemon fandomWhere are you even getting this idea from? I see Ceruledge and Tinkaton shit all over the place.
>>58895921Pokemon fans
>>58895921Japanese people without a doubt
>>58895921>but my echo chamber doesn't know them...
>>58895459trvke
>>58894870>Are you live under a rock?Why do ESLs struggle with basic common sayings?
>>58895921>Nemona, the eevee girl, the doggo rival>Rika and Larry>The expansion rivals>tinkaton, ceruledge, floragato,the fire starter,clodsire,
>>58894769>Gen 1 still on top >About to get another year reminding zoomers why it’s the top dog Kanto supremacy is eternal
>>58895921Those dlcs weren't even FOTM kek
>>58895900this is accurate and i had no idea it was just a japinsect thingoh and i'm sure this will soon apply to other nintendo fanbases>>58894870>ARR YUU LIVES UNDAR RACK SAAR??!
If there wasn any a Pokemon game that didn't deserve this much, it's ZAAwful game, and easily the worst game in the franchise
>>58894769Based
>>58895921It's weirdThe only characters I know that have had any kind of impact on the fanbase are Nemona, Iono, Carmine, and KieranAnd the ONLY Pokemon that I've seen that anyone cares about are Sprigatito, Meowscarada, and maybe Baxcalibur and Clodsire on a good day
>>58895921Pokemania, brand driven consumption, identity purchasing, captive audience, sunk cost momentum
>>58896148>and maybe BaxcaliburFor how ugly it is?
>>58896153Being the pesudo of the gen with a decent TCG card gave it more legs than it should've honestly. Still more any any other gen 9 mon.What a fucking waste of a generation I can't even name 90% of the mons here.
>>58896164Tinkaton, Armarouge and Ceruledge also stick out, they're really popular in both east and westAll of them got added to Unite pretty quicklyShown off in the animeCeruledge got a solid tcg card
>>58896189Tinkaton had her moments, and I'll just take your word on the other two, that said, that's still very small given the dex and even then barely get brought when compared to Pokemon from previous gens
>>58894965>with a finished conclusion WRONG
>>58896148Rika and Larry too.I think the ice gym leader and Iono sorta tooAnd the Ghost type has an impact for how awful it was
>>58895887>/vp/ once again says something treally disingenuous and delusionalDLC replaced the rehash copies years ago and SV's DLC released two years before L: Z-A. Learn how to tell the time, what are you, five years old?
>>58895924Sounds like your stores just have really shitty selections, I can't count the amount of times I saw pokémon shit in a shop that was current Gen, last Gen or anything BUT kanto. Maybe TPCi's profiled your region and found they really are just casualfag retards who'll clap for it.
>>58896347Rika sure, but Larry kinda fell off and is mostly forgotten nowGrusha is on and offAnd I've never seen anyone Ryme, as nobody should
>2nd best selling games>barely any art of this fitness goddess
sv is well deserved, if we had competent company behind pokemon, then we would get better games
>>58896371>2nd best selling games among casual fuckers>anon wonders why the ugly lesbian isn't popular with the casual masses
Can we finally admit sales for Pokemon don't fucking matter or reflect the quality of the games?
>>58896371All the female teachers are hidden behind the school and even in Indigo Disk taking the clases is optional.
>>58896447Which is retarded. Why even have it take place in a school if you're not going to do anything with it, or you can skip it entirely? It's like they wanted that Persona money but forgot to make it a key freature
>>58896417no? how much I enjoyed them is perfectly reflected by OPs numbers.Fuck gen 5 and ZA for ruining what their previous titles did.
>>58896457because in SV the focus was not the school, it was the treasure quest
>>58896475Then WHY is there a school at all? The previous game never needed a reason to invent you to go on your Pokemon journey. And the school could've just been a hub town, which it should've been. The treasure hunt doesn't even make sense in its context
>>58896490'cause bullying bad, anon.
>>58894769>27mil bought the worst mainlinr Pokèmon game
>>58896349>you are dumb because you don't follow this completely arbitrary parameter I just made upshut up, idiot
>>58896660*28mil
>>58896700I'm not the one ignoring Game Freak been busy shitting out content in between SV and L: Z-A , you psycho little shitbag. And yeah, per Game Freak's own words "The DLC replaces the new titles set in the same region as previous games", meaning they're guaranteed a game sale if anyone buys the DLC. Instead of shitting out a rehash where under 10m buy it because it's the same fucking thing as the game they played previously.
>Arceus is still behind BDSPBleak...
>>58897405that's what happened when you has nothing but an empty field, regional replacements, goodra's shitty diaper, gardenia but a man, and no megas.
>58897425bait used to be believable
>>58894939I bought both SV with DLC included during Blacky Friday.
>>58896717Should have just released a single Grey and Star instead of BW2 and USUM to max greed.
>>58896717Crystal is so unbelievably shit at being an enhanced version its insanedoubles cartridge size, doesnt do anything with it. but hey you can be the little girl now, so I guess its alright
>>5889590010/10 explanation.
>>58897603They explicitly didn’t try with Crystal because they wanted Pokémon to flop so Sugimori would be free to draw porn if Quinty
>>58894769i think sales per console is a better metric because the popularity of a game also depends on the popularity of a console as there is a wider audience available, this is the games ordered by sales per console unit. plza is a bit iffy because its across 2 consoles and the cart can be shared, idk if i should split it like gb/gbc
>>58894769The Pokemon franchise was sacrificed for the 3DS not unlike how an entire generation of men was sacrificed for Serbia during WW1
>>58897495>greyWay to prove how you utterly misread the themes of the games there champ. SM were also opposite themes, so there's the reason why they split it. Your mother bought it for you anyway.
>>58897684>because the popularity of a game also depends on the popularity of a consoleNo, there's a LOT more factors involved than that. DS sold 154m units same as Switch. Pokémon on Switch sold a LOT more than Pokémon on DS, because more people who played video games extensively bought a Switch, more non-gamer casuals bought the DS. So when Pokémon released, more people who'd played Pokémon in the past wound up buying into it on Switch than casual faggots who ignored vidya as a concept up until they saw virtual pets - Nintendo edition for DS.
>>58897857>Pokémon on Switch sold a LOT more than Pokémon on DSit didnt the numbers are close check my chart gens 8/9 have similar sales numbers to gens 4/5
>>58897881>SS sold almost 10m more copies than DP>SV sold almost 11m more copies than DP>L: A sold 6.5m more than BW2>L: Z-A sold 3.8m more than BW2 already>BDSP sold 3m more than HGSSIn simpler terms, almost 20% of all Switch owners own SV, only 11% of all DS owners owned DP. I disregard base delusional as a counting base.
>>58896408He wasn't talking about Tulip
>>58897405BDSP were sold in double packs, you guys have to realize that the dual version release is a massive buff to game sales, especially in the consoomer/scalper era we live in where people buy multiple copies of the same thing just to sell it off at even more expensive pricesObjectively everything about PLA is going against it>Releases early in the year which has been proven to sell less than if it released in October/November>Single release>Immediately replaced with SV>No DLC>No connectivity with other games>No exposure from TPC outside of occasionally shilling Hisuian forms or PokeMas characters (who cares)It selling 12m is a testament to the Pokemon brand itself rather than the game's quality. Single mainline Pokemon releases like third versions used to sell 6m at best
>>58897603>>58897614That's Masuda's vision you're insulting there, champ
>>58897974And yet he posted the uggo lesbian. It;s not just my perception, that idiot cried no cunt's drawing her. Almost as if there's a reason why she hasn't captured the imagination of the masses. Ah well, can lead a cunt to the truth, but can't make it think.
>>58897987>people didn't buy two copies back then because - uh, i couldn't imagine them having that kind of money thenAnon, DS games were laughably cheap (I got my copy of Diamond for €35), buying two games, if that was your wont was only €70 and at that stage, I was spending more a week on weed than buying Diamond and Pearl would have cost me day I bought back into the franchise. If anything, the double packs should have sold worse due to the markup cost per unit when BDSP released than back then. But it didn't, because the userbase on Switch was there, vs on DS where it wasn't in the numbers it is today (best selling title only sold 2.65m more than L: A, a game /vp has sperged for 4 years solid as being a flop, while the game comparable to L: A in Gen 4 on DS only sold 7.6m.
>>58897957not 10m
>>58898000Why so volatile?
>>58898006I never brought up money. That isn't a factor in my point in the first place. It's all about optics
>>58896316Small brained retard detected
>>58897987>No DLCThat's a bad thing?
>>58898020>needing to include third versionsAwww, baba. What's the matter, mad your childhood was received worse by the average DS owner than SS and SV were to the average Switch owner? Because including the DLC unit sales on top (the actual equivalent to the rehash efforts, per Game Freak >>58896717) means SS and SV sold 37m and 38m apiece compared to what, 25 and 24, with every non-remake release counted for each Gen?
>>58898341Not him and I don't care about how they were received, not including rereleases is dishonest and you know it.>including the DLC unit sales on topThis nonsense doesn't happen outside of the Pokémon fanbasee autism bubble. Rereleases are typically counted together, DLCs are a separate experience.
>>58898341third version should be included because plenty of people get them as their game for that gen instead of the first released, dlc doesnt count because its not a standalone game and costs less than a full game they sell games with the dlc on cart which is technically a third version and those are already included in the overall game sales
>>58898493>plenty of people get them as their game for that gen instead of the first releasedYup. That's me. Why would I settle for a beta when I know a polished version will soon be released?
>>58894769With these sales numbers gen 10 could be absolute perfection and it would not escape the shadow of SV. SV-cucks, I kneel.
>>58898421>not including rereleases is dishonestno, what's actually dishonest is calling 3rd versions and a literal sequel a rerelease just so you can feel less bad about how poorly your favorite gen sold
>>58898524"Third versions" are rereleases and are considered rereleases everywhere outside of this retarded conversation. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best-selling_video_gamesNow quit being disingenuous.
>>58898532>"Third versions" are rereleasesNo they aren't.
>>58898493>third version should be included because plenty of people get them as their game for that gen instead of the first releasedWhich is why they're classed as their own class of game sale, separate and disparate from the main pairs, because they weren't part of the main game sales. Maybe the people who wanted their sales figures to count should have bought the main game pairs, instead of waiting for the rehash version because they were too poor to afford $70 back in 2006.
>>58898546>Which is why they're classed as their own class of game sale,dont think so theyre essentially a definitive edition/goty edition
>>58898421Including all releases based in a region, because you're mad current gen sales exhibit a deeper adoption of the series by gamers on Switch vs one with comparable hardware unit sales, but FAR worse pokémon unit sales is dishonest. But I'd expect nothing less from the type of immature fucker who gets upset over pokémon, much less upset its current performance makes a mockery of its childhood's perception.
if BW2 is a rerelease of BW then then GSC is a rerelease of RBY and PLZA is a rerelease of XY :)
>>58898559With a completely different SKU and demarcation in Nintendo best-selling charts, than being an addendum to them, the way they collate Red, Green and Blue together, despite Green only being in one territory as the pair and Blue as the pair in the rest of the world, but both ultimately being the same game. So if the powers that be won't collate the numbers to pretend they're better, what makes you think you can use that excuse to fail to handle reality?
>>58898561I don't care about any of that bullshit. Pokémon Crystal is the same game as Pokémon Gold and Pokémon Silver with minor changes. It is a rerelease, period.>all releases based in a regionI've never said this. I agree that PLA is a separate game from Pokémon Diamond and Pokémon Pearl. Pokémon Platinum is a rerelease of Pokémon Diamond and Pokémon Pearl.
>>58898569Not really how it works dude. L: Z-A and GSC deliberately showed an evolution of what had previously been shown off in past games, BW2 and all the rest the rehashes did not display the same level of evolution or difference in their presentations compared to the pair that gave rise to them which is why they're classed as rereleases and why Game Freak outright called them "new titles set in the same region as past games".
>>58898583>L: Z-A and GSC deliberately showed an evolution of what had previously been shown off in past games,Oh…so like BW2
>>58898581>>58898577And unless the officials agree, it by defintion can't be, because it actually isn't JUST the same game again. The minor new content allows a new SKU and reason for them to keep the brand visible (which is what they wanted, keep the merch and other shit selling while new games got made). That Game Freak treat them with the consideration they deserve (the battle frontier project has started by the way) compared to the new Gen titles, or that they outright cut and replaced them shows they don't hold the same reverence for them as you do, which means they don;t see them as equal, in sales, intent or production (when they talked shop with Iwata, they referred to paired games for Generational identifiers, not rehashes).
>>58898587Not really but whatever helps soothe the pain that runs to your core deep down. Don't worry, the BW remake will come along soon to rehab your childhood in the eyes of the world. just don't hold your breath for the rehash version or even rehash #2.
>>58898591>but le officials!!!They count Platinum separately because it was released separately. They count Diamond and Pearl together because they released at the same time. They want the data on their marketing campaign, not the games themselves. They also count Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe separately, that doesn't make them different games. This is understood by everyone except coping pokefags.
>>58898595> Not really but whatever helps soothe the pain that runs to your core deep downI’m not the one who needs to lie to make gen 5’s sales look less bad lol
>>58898598Yet you're attempting to make them seem that way, by adding in figures from a different SKU designation and calling it the same. Not my faut Game Freak decided to rehash Gen 5 AND try and make it seem like it wasn't just a rehash, but I'm not about to call a dog a cat, just because some sperg fucker can't accept the world's reception of its childhood.
>>58898597They count the games separately, because they have differing Universal Product Codes The paired games, being essentially the same game with differing encounters as the only differences receive the same UPC while the game that releases after, rehashing the base game and expanding its original content receives a new UPC, to differentiate itself from the past releases. Which leads to sale tallies keeping both separate, as they are two different products coded with two differing designations.
>>58898631Nobody cares about your product code autism, it's the same game.
>>58898636Nah, why else would spergs claim they waited to buy the game, when the previous games didn't have new content along with the old story? Sorry Gen 9 makes you shit yourself in rage this much, but your childhood wasn't even special back in Gen 5.
>>58898647You are talking to different people. Personally, I think Game Freak has never made a single good game, ever. Pokémon Emerald is the same game as Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire.
>>58898653Doesn't matter, point stanmds. It's essentially the same game, we all know rehashes were just editing reprints. but they're sold as and seen as separate units by the sources that matter, thus cannot in fact be lumped in together to attempt to paper over how poorly Gen 4 and 5 did on a system that sold as much as the Switch compared to Pokémon on Switch. Because if you want to start that, Gen 8 and 9 collectively sold more than Gen 4 and 5 anyway, still leading to a fat loss for the soccer mom system.
>>58898794It's not hiding anything, it's the same game, that's the end of it.
>>58898801Yeah, but not really, given it was sold with a different UPC, title and storyline.
>>58898647im not even mad about gen9 having high sales i like gen9 just think sales should be the way i worked them out, and that puts usum at the top which is the worst gen
>>58894870>ESL is a retard
>>58894769Emulation warped my perception of pokemon extremely badly In my head I'm always thinking Emerald is a top sold game and then get reminded it just isn't
>>58895921SV had excellent marketing. It's the first open world game and had the best opening week of any Pokémon game.The post-launch sales have actually been rather low for pokémon Switch standards.
>>58899057Yeah, but that's contrary to how sales are determined in the real world. Sorry you're too delusional to understand that, I guess.
>>58894769>plass is still the worst selling pokemon game on switch mo wonder contrarians on this board love it so much
>>58896371Dendra is doing fine,I think Tulip had it worse
>>58899370The real world doesn't split them like you do >>58898532
>>58898532based, retard btfo
>>58894769>bdsp is the best selling of all pokemon remakesi knew the hate for that game was forced but wow
>>58901825More like this fanbase will buy fucking anything Pokemon related, even watered down remakes
>>58894769Gens 8 and 9 sold the same as Gens 6 and 7 despite being on the Switch, a platform where all others series saw x3 growth in sales. How did GameFreak drop the ball so hard with the Switch? It was a license to create a 60M sales game and they fumbled it.
>>58894870>Are you liveGood morning sirs.
>>58901969>Gens 8 and 9 sold the same as Gens 6 and 7I’m so sorry about your terminal blindness
>>58900421Nintendo and TPC do. Doesn't matter how retards mad their childhood got outsold feel about it, different UPC's, different intents entirely, ergo different classification in the sales tallies.
>>58901969>60 millionPoketards are do delusional lmao
>>58895025You just don't understand, GF/TPC aim is NOT making good games, is making games to shill the rest of the real money maker, merchandise
>>58894937"Fans"Of boomer jap dick maybe?
>>58901969>Gens 8 and 9 sold the same as Gens 6 and 7 despite being on the Switchlol no they didn'tbesides, gen 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 all sold about 15 million copies
>>58894769All of those copies sold and not a single one has managed to surpass Red and Blue, yet?
>>58894794Im old anon. I dont bring my Switch 2 to play outside, I bring it to work to play on dead times. There's no lack of people playing Pokemon at work, lately it has been Z-A, I got it and im yet to start it still.
>>58902755RBY 46MGSC 30MRSE + FRLG 35MDPPt + HGSS 37MBW + BW2 24MXY + ORAS 31MSM + USUM 26MSwSh 27MSV 28MSwSh and SV were commercial failures compared to what they should have been. If Gen 10 is a Switch 2 exclusive (which I doubt GF would do because they always cling to older systems) it could very well end up selling in the single digit millions. They are failing and something NEEDS to change.
>>58902972ok now add bdsp and legends games to swsh and sv retardo
>>58902975I just counted the mainline games, not the spinoff games. The Legends games and BDSP can't trade or battle with the main games so they don't count.
>>58902981they can trade just fine with home
>>58895057The real redpill is that pokemon spinoffs kinda blow, none of them have a gameplay loop as satisfying as the mainline ones.
>>58897405>>58897987BDSP was a game ripped apart by everyone, with poor reviews and word of mouth from even Sinnoh babies. If Arceus can't surpass it after 4 years on the market, that might just lead to a change in strategy.
>>58902981>i counted the main games, but didn't actually count the main games because of my own special particular brand of autismSo you did not in fact count the canon main games but did in fact act the autistic seething mad shitbag, given you ignored canonical main series game sales totals, because it makes your childhood's sale performance look abjectly horrible. I've heard of niggers here getting mad something sold, but getting mad something sold millions more than another thing's a new one to me.
>>58903182Game Freak aren't rockstar dude. After they sell 500,000 copies, they're operating on pure profit margins. Unless the series sales utterly crater so the net mid-gen title sells only 6.2m or the next paired title sells the same, they're not going to do any such thing as worry some EOP is upset over sales totals and trying to selectively present results to attempt to handle 20 years of series evolution from before poop grew up to be a shit.
>>58894839HELLO GODDESS