People finally starting to realise FRLG are shit games
>>58898965The worst thing about FRLG is they're based on Gen 1. Rotten foundations etc.
>>58898965>we already had remakes 3 gens in.Dark foreshadowing that was.
>>58898977Nope >FRLG = bad remake of an amazing game >HGSS = amazing remake of an amazing game >ORAS = mediocre remake of a good game >BDSP = bad remake of a mediocre game
>>58898989How is FRLG bad, let alone worse than the absolute jankfest that was the originals? There's no reason to play Gen 1 itself outside of novelty factor.
>>58898991 1/2 Removed Gameplay >no day/night cycle >no days of the week >no berry farming >Golbat and Chansey friendship evo gated off until the postgame (despite the fact that you could just press ‘B’ to stop it if you wanted to) >Eevee friendship evolution IMPOSSIBLE in these games (because no day/night feature, seriously why is this bare minimum feature NOT in the game?) >breeding gated off until the postgame >basically any good feature from Gen 2 is removed or MAY be available in the postgame if you’re lucky Nonsensical changes >more version exclusives added, which is objectively a terrible change (e.g. Psyduck, Shellder, Slowpoke and Staryu are now version exclusive mons, wtf) >there are also now pseudo exclusives that didn’t exist before, e.g. in Viridian Forest, Caterpie is rare in FR, meanwhile Weedle is rare in LG >Giovanni’s ace changed to Rhyhorn (even though he literally had a Rhydon in RBY?????????) >Bruno’s ace spoiled - random Bikers on Cycling Road now have Machamps for some reason Music >several music tracks copied and pasted from RSE (S.S. Anne, Victory themes etc.)>half of the music is remixed into a different key and sounds worse as a result (e.g. bike theme changed from C Major to F major, why the fuck?) >half of the music goes way too far with drums going full schizo mode in some tracks >a few tracks even have parts that are slightly out of tune Baby mode >pressing L or R at any point in the game will bring up a ‘Help’ screen to baby you through the game (basically the Invicibility Leaf of Pokemon)
>>588989912/2 Other retarded bullshit >the roaming Legendaries Raikou and Entei are bugged - if they use Roar, they now count as ‘defeated’ and you can no longer find them + they’re guaranteed to have low IVs if you do catch them >rather than creating a cool 2nd region which would have significantly increased the quality of the game, they instead decide to give us the ‘Sevii Islands’, which is just 7 shitty islands with hardly anything to do >despite adding Gen 2 Pokemon into the postgame for the Sevii quest, half of the fucking mons aren’t available to catch (e.g. Houndour, Chinchou, Mareep etc. etc.), yet the NPCs do have them, which is a huge middle finger to the player >a lot of the suspense of some of the cutscenes falls flat due to the manner in which the text loads in, for example when Lance reveals that you are not in fact the champion yet and have to beat your Rival first, or when Rival emphatically claims to be the most power trainer in the world - the dialogue just appears in the textboxes, and doesn’t make good use of pauses between phrases for effect >Altering Cave is an unfinished cave that just has Zubats and literally nothing else >VS Seeker doesn’t fucking work in caves and buildings lmfao
>>58899005>>no day/night cycle >>no days of the weekI'll trade those for having the metric fucktonne of glitches and blatant programming errors removed.>>no berry farmingWas that even in the originals?>>Golbat and Chansey friendship evo gated off until the postgame (despite the fact that you could just press ‘B’ to stop it if you wanted to)Sure but again better than the originals where they didn't exist.>>Eevee friendship evolution IMPOSSIBLE in these games (because no day/night feature, seriously why is this bare minimum feature NOT in the game?)Again they weren't even IN gen 1 so this can't be considered a downgrade.>>breeding gated off until the postgame>>basically any good feature from Gen 2 is removed or MAY be available in the postgame if you’re luckyIt's a remake of Gen 1. Would have been nice to have them all, but still better than the OG games.>>more version exclusives added, which is objectively a terrible change (e.g. Psyduck, Shellder, Slowpoke and Staryu are now version exclusive mons, wtf)I guess?>>there are also now pseudo exclusives that didn’t exist before, e.g. in Viridian Forest, Caterpie is rare in FR, meanwhile Weedle is rare in LGI caught both super easily in FR. Sounds like a you problem.>>Giovanni’s ace changed to Rhyhorn (even though he literally had a Rhydon in RBY?????????)>>Bruno’s ace spoiled - random Bikers on Cycling Road now have Machamps for some reasonHoly mother of autism.>MusicFRLG has actual music. RBY has hideous ear-grating Nokia noises.>inb4 he posts the reverbed versions from YT>>pressing L or R at any point in the game will bring up a ‘Help’ screen to baby you through the game (basically the Invicibility Leaf of Pokemon)Oh no, the kids game is suitable for kids, how tragic.
>>58899040>I'll trade those for having the metric fucktonne of glitches and blatant programming errors removed. It's not an either/or choice, why didn't they do both? >Was that even in the originals?Doesn't matter, by Gen 3 it is standard and so must be included >Sure but again better than the originals where they didn't exist.Doesn't matter, by Gen 3 it is standard and so must be included >Again they weren't even IN gen 1 so this can't be considered a downgrade.It IS a downgrade, by Gen 3 it is standard and so must be included >Would have been nice to have them all Should all have been available in the main campaign, no excuses >I caught both super easily in FR. Sounds like a you problem *smug redditor face* Deflecting the actual criticism, WHY are pseudo exclusives even a thing? >Holy mother of autism Still not addressing the actual criticism >FRLG music good, RBY music bad Lmfao, you're clearly tonedeaf >defending baby mode I love how we can make legitimate non-refutable criticisms about a Pokemon game, and there's always someone like you who will come along and pretend that it's impossible for a single one of them to be valid. Textbook fanboyism.
>>58899040>shitting on Missingno opinion discarded
>>58899073>It's not an either/or choice, why didn't they do both?The day/night cycle was canned because of the GBA's screen, and both are pretty meaningless fluff that doesn't impact the overall game. The broken type interactions and large amount of glitches (including some moves straight up doing NOTHING) being fixed is a much greater improvement than lacking those features is a "loss".>Doesn't matter, by Gen 3 it is standard and so must be includedIt's a remake of Gen 1. The overall experience is supposed to be Gen 1, just with the shit bits removed and presentation upgraded. Breeding or completely new Pokemon in the main game would throw that completely out of kilter.>Should all have been available in the main campaign, no excusesBecause? That's what trading is for.>WHY are pseudo exclusives even a thing?Why not? Gives more meaningful differences between versions.>Still not addressing the actual criticismThe "criticism" is pure autism. Neither of those are actual major flaws.>Lmfao, you're clearly tonedeafCompare Viridian Forest in FRLG to the hideous screeching noise in RBY.>>defending baby modeIt is literally a game for children. And you don't have to use it. >I love how we can make legitimate non-refutable criticisms about a Pokemon gameWhich you didn't.>>5889908299.9% of the glitches in Gen 1 are shit like pic related, which adds nothing of value to the game whatsoever.
>>58899110>day/night cycle was canned because of the GBA's screen Worst excuse of all time + everything else you listed is just poor excuses. If HGSS can include Gen 4 evolutions then so can FRLG include Gen 2 evolutions. End of story.
>>58899126>No argumentI accept your concession.
>>58898989>RBYG>Anything other than half-assed unfinished dogshit that fails to work correctlyFRLG are much better than the originals by virtue of being built on a competent game engine (Gen 3) and not being unfinished dogshit. The fact you get new content is even better.
>>58899130My argument is that GBA screen is perfectly capable of replicating day/night and that your excuse is atrocious.
>>58899110>the stuff that was in gen 2 but wasn't in gen 1 couldn't be in the gen 3 remake because.....it just couldn't okay????
>>58899040 >>58899110 You think that Giovanni having Rhyhorn instead of Rhydon is "not a major flaw"????? That is completely fucking delusional, there's no way FRLG defenders actually think they can argue this?
>>58899208Compared to the laundry list of broken shit in gen 1 it's incredibly small potatoes yes. FRLG isn't perfect but it's the best way to play Kanto.
>>58899110>day/night feature is """fluff""" this is your brain in full cope mode
>>58898965No, it's just Hoenbabbies being a vocal minority as usual. Everyone else knows ORAS is Ohmorislop
>>58898991>There's no reason to play Gen 1 itself outside of novelty factor.that's a pretty good reason. what reason do I have to play FRLG?there is no definitive version of kanto, but i reckon people who played FRLG as kids had it cemented as the "true" version in their minds, with any deviation treated as a downside. RBY not having held items or abilities is bad, but FRLG not having the physical/special split or fairy type is okay. LGPE not having crossgens is bad, but FRLG locking crossgens to postgame is fine.RBY and LGPE are flawed, but you can't deny that they're both unique. FRLG is not unique. it's a safe, tepid experience that people praise for not having any egregious flaws. but there's also nothing outstanding. why should I play FRLG over any other game?
>>58899223hoennbabs are the ones who hate ORAS the most
>>58899212>it's incredibly small potatoes No, it's completely inexcusable Well done on finally admitting FRLG has problems though, after claiming earlier that we didn't have any legitimate criticisms, lmfao
>>58899226>what reason do I have to play FRLG?It being the best version of Kanto? Gen 1 is broken slop and LGPE isn't even a proper Pokemon game. Most of FRLG's flaws come from Kanto itself being kinda shit.
So if the original games are janky and outdated and FRLG are suddenly hated does that mean Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee are the best way to play Gen 1?
>>58899241>Most of FRLG's flaws come from Kanto itself being kinda shit.but I played Blue and I loved Kanto. and I played Blue as an adult, after playing LG when I was younger, so it's not nostalgia talking.have you ever played a gen 1 game? not just for a few hours, but to completion?
>>58899265Then you're retarded.>have you ever played a gen 1 game? not just for a few hours, but to completion?No because I'm not a masochist. >inb4 YOU HAVE TO EAT SHIT TO KNOW IT'S BAD
>>58899268so you haven't played any other versions of kanto, and you don't even like kanto, but we're supposed to care what you think the best way to experience kanto is
>>58899281>so you haven't played any other versions of kanto,I have played Blue but not to completion on account of it being that fucking bad.>and you don't even like kantoI can like Kanto whilst acknowledging it has major problems, notably type distributions, bugs being basically worthless etc.>but we're supposed to care what you think the best way to experience kanto isYes, on account of me being correct.
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>>58899339Concession accepted.
>>58899110>If you kill somebody with Hyper Beam you don’t have to recharge What faggot thinks this glitch makes the game worse?
>>58898965baby's first romhack
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HOT TAKE:ORAS > FRLG > HGSS
>>58899223>ORAS is OhmorislopORAS is the best Pokemon game, period.
>>58899344>concession accepted *smug reddit smile* Us being dumbfounded and lost for words as a result of your delusion doesn't mean we've conceded >>58899005 & >>58899009 is pretty much /thread
>>58898977Gen 1 hate makes no sense.The foundation is so solid it literally was the blueprint for every Pokemon game up until Arceus
>>58899281I miss kayda threads They were the only thing worth a damn in this third world website
>>58899536>no day/night cyclegood
>>58899596>Gen 1 hate makes no sense. Nah if anything kantoslop isn't hated near enough
>>58899406>>>/reddit/
>>58899005>nugen shitmons not being allowed is a bad thing acording to dskeksfun fact jothoddlers, kanto can stand on its one without the need of pwercrreep nugen replacements from sinnoh unlike your precious favourite region
>>58900099powercreeeep nugen neplacements and all the other broken shit in gen 4 completely raping the balance of the game is the only reason Johtomons became shitmons in the first place. Gen 2 doesn't get golden parachute buffs every three seconds like KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOmons do.
isn't there some tranny pokemon youtuber that doesn't shut up about how the sevi islands are the best thing ever
>>58900105>she say when jewtho was the region that introduced powercreep in the first place with scizor, steelix and crobat
>>58900126It's funny how with Gen 2, you can name any random three Pokemon from that Gen and all three of them are guaranteed to be cool as fuck
>>58900231Gen 2 has a bunch of lame shitmon the fuck are you talking about
>>58898965The only problem with Gen 1 remakes was a lack of a Yellow remake.
