>Typhlosion gets a hisuian form with a fantastic design>Magentanium gets a mega with a cool design and stats>Totodile remains forgotten and its mega is ugly as fuckWhy is totodile such a mememon?
Kill yourself typedo>>58888888
>>58903527>typhlosion as a troon>fantastic design plasstard yet again showing their complete lack of taste
>>58903527It’s not inherently a meme mon, it got demoted to that status because the FreakLeak pedophile was a Feraligatr fan. Game freak had rejected his shitposts and told him to delete his smut but as you know, he didn’t and got typhlosion canceled. Game freak was naturally pissed bit couldn’t fire him due to some Japanese culture thing, and they obviously couldn’t punish him by writing worse blood libel against Feraligatr since game freak would just be shooting themselves in the foot. But Feraligatr just so happened to be next in line for a mega so game freak took the opportunity to punish the freakleak pedophile by demoting it to a skibidi toilet weaker than its own baby. TLDR. Feraligatr was suppose to get a cool mega like the other ZA starters, but the freakleak pedo ruined it for you >>58903586I didn’t know Morty was a troon
>>58903527Why did it become one in the first place? The design and lore aren’t fit for it. The joke is just crammed into the mega design with no rhyme or reason.
>>58903612>mega emboar>mega mehanuim>cooldo typedos really?
>>58903527Your meme isn’t catching on embort. You’ve got to move on
>>58903612>it got demoted to that status because [SEVERE MENTAL DELUSION]It was a fucking comedy relief character in the GS anime, because no cunt reacted to any of the Johto trio the level of the original set much less to feraligatr in particular but totdile was cute and derpy and they used it as another "pokémon uses a move on things" running gag, like Brock getting knocked out by Croagunk every ep he went gaga over some skirt. For Game freak to give it treatment akin to popular things like 'Zard and Lucario, or even just shit thought of as cool in general (Rayquaza), it needed to have an actual fanbase large enough to profit off in the merchandising department (again, like 'Zard, Lucario, Rayquaza). It's only ever been tangenal to something that level of popularity - its base stage is adored by Japan for being a cutesy wittle cwoc. But they ignore the ugly overgrown lizard it became, hence Game Freak making its design ape its tangentially related popular form. I wish you'd learn personal opinion does not reflect actual real-world reception of the same thing.
>>58903527>>Magentanium gets a mega with a cool design and statsTurning into a literal plastic stacker for babies isn't "cool" LMAO
CHADraligatr>more fanart than any other za starter>is used more often online than the other za starters>his card is the most expensive of the za starters>if his mega gets strong jaw then he will be the first and only johto starter to actually be OU>if he gets fishious rend then he will break the meta same way mega blaziken did and be banned to uberTypedo>a cheap copy of Charizard right down to the stats>shit movepool>gets a regional femboy form>femboy form also has a shit movepool>kiddy diddler>is only good in gen 2 and bad in every gen it's allowed, and only used for one niche in the VGC (eruption)Shitganium>shit stats that's literally just Venusaur's but rearranged>not a good attacker to deal damage and since its defensive base stats are only 100 each it can't even wall good>shit movepool, doesn't even get sleep powder that would make a big difference>it is far more likely that its mega form will still be competitively unviableEmbort>fat ugly china bastard>dogshit stats and remains very slow, meaning it often takes damage before it can really act>most unpopular starter bar none, its entire family line didn't make it to the official poll
reminder that everyone trying to fabricate starterwars between zachads is a falseflagging typedo>>58888888
>>58903643The anime turned totodile's line into comic relief pokemon
>>58903711Just Totodile. The rest weren’t like that, but they barely showed up at all desu
>>58903717Chikorita was too girly and Cyndaquil's biggest flaw was its late-stage addition during development. They ran with it, but if that had been the finalised concept a lot earlier in the cycle, it may have turned out more stand-out than it ultimately was.
>>58903723Makes me wonder if their evos would’ve been more popular had they been aggressively shilled in the anime rather than showing up for CotD stuff only.
>>58903527>bro why the comedy relief croc got a goofy mega????
>>58903682>Mega Feraligatr imitates Totodile because Totodile was popular in the animeIs there any actual proof Totodile was that popular? It was relevant over 25 years ago, and I have yet to see it shown having the kind of enduring popularity other starters have had. Plus there’s other starters that kind of just disprove this speculation. Surely we have something that gives this more credence
>>58903695>Became a retarded meme >Fat ugly croc wearing a speedo>Most of your points glazing him is speculation and copeYou're trying to hard to defend feraligayturd
>>58903762>Is there any actual proof Totodile was that populartotodile always placed higher than feraligatr in Japanese polls before za came out
>>58903762>ignoring actual in-game proof, is there any actual proofCunt, they don't leave money on the table (Gmax Pikachu and eevee being OG pika and FLOOFYVee because that's what cunts would expect, 'Zard getting TWO megas, along with Lucario and Gengar, because they'll sell more merch than two venustoise megas ever would). If they went to the arse of making the final stage of something deliberately akin to a prior stage of its evolutionary chain, it's because they KNOW there's no point trying to rehabilitate its reception in the eyes of the world, after 27 years hard dtat pointing to an alternative outcome than your opinion. Unlike with Raichu where there's a cult following of it because it's ignored compared to Pikachu thus it got two differently flavoured megas to pander to both Pikaspergs and Raichutards, there's no strong cult sperging over feraligatr, thus no reason for Game Freak to give it two megas to pander to both sets of fans like the 'Chu bros, thus no point even caring about the contrarian fuckers who still can't separate their personal childhood experience of something from the reality of the reaction to the same.
totodile was always my favorite gen 2 starter and a bad mega will never change that!!!!!
CUTE LIL SPAZ GATOR
how do you not luf him??
>>58903926such a shame his evos are ass.
>>58903531>>58903586>Gatr's mega is easily the worst of the three by a wide margin>"These are the real Johto trio"I wouldn't want to be part of the trio either with how retarded MegaGatr looks.>But the artist makes it look really good looking!Artistic liberties isn't going to change the canon in-game appearance.
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>>58903527He will always be my favourite water starter, no matter how much gayfreak fucks him up
>>58903864But apparently not after. And, again, there’s counter examples. So this is probably circumstantial at best.>>58903892Sheesh, why are you so spitting mad? If your assertions are evident then you should be able to provide some sort of data, yeah?
>>58904016The fact the archive is full of feralifags failing to handle this outcome, by posting fan mock-ups that similarly ignore the crux of the issue to make an edgy piece of shit beyond the general "let's pretend the derpy gator's an edgy croc" bit, in contrast to the official design being a fat homage to its base form, instead of building off its final form, like the rest the starter megas did (can think the rest are horseshit, but all in fact build off where the final form left the design, not go back to the start because it's the only way to sell merch of it).
>>58904026That’s not hard numbers though. Again, you’re speculating. For something like Raichu it makes sense because Pikachu has insane merch due to its status. I’m asking if you have anything showcasing Totodile’s popularity that would link this to it. Because so far, I have yet to see it.
>>58903586Ironic post, you tasteless cultureless pig
>>58904041>th-that's n-not hard numbersBut it is VERY fucking telling in a series that generally slaps new designs on products to sell and make plush toys of on top that they ignored the final stage of a pokémon that was part of a subset of mega pokémon that also built off the final stage of an evo line the way the rest the mega starters all built off the final forms, regardless how good, bad or indifferent the actual final stage was. The answer as always is money and they didn't fucking shoot themselves in the head when it came to potental earnings for M_Feraligatr but played it safe, by making it look closer to its far more popular base stage form.
>>58904069So… then you should be able to prove that with numbers, or existing merch. It’s very obvious and telling, right? It should be easy for you. Throw me a bone, why don’t you?
>>58903527>Meganium>Coolthat's a bigger joke than skibidi gatr.
>>58904076Just as you should be able to prove it's popular. As we both can't, the tie-breaker remains with the creators (who have access to ALL the fucking dirty data related to the series going back almost 30 years and especially since 29 1/2 years ago when it really took off) and they went an entirely different direction to your opinion (given they knew they had to create merch lines with it) and went with one more in line with my opinion of it (namely, "it's a giant turd and not worth wasting a good concept on") when they finalised the giant baby for the giant baby fans.
>>58904252So… you can’t actually prove it’s popular. You can’t provide data backing that claim up. You’re pretty much screaming into the wind. Cool to see, I guess. Maybe someone else will be able to pick up your slack.
>>58904270>3 of 4 pokémon pictured got a mega>0 of those 3 megas looked like it was just a bigger version of the base stage>feraligatr got a mega too>its mega looks like a gigantic totodile when it closes its flap and hyperstretches its arms outI'm not looking to prove it is though. And as my evidence for it being the opposite is being refused by you, despite being an official addition to the series long after any such popularity of it would have been recognised, we're at an impasse. I'll stick to the official side of things, the pieces shouting loudly for those too ignorant to understand the context clues (namely, no good money after bad, especially since Zeraora, something beloved by kids since its addition got a mega that was an evolution of its base design too while the poster-child for the anti-cootie brigade in chikorita got something that feasibly worked as a continuation of what meganium's design was attempting).
>>58904354>I'm not looking to prove it is thoughI think it’s more like you can’t. You stated earlier the base form is popular, and then when I asked for anything resembling data backing that up, you ended up eventually stating you aren’t looking to prove it’s popular.>And as my evidence for it being the opposite is being refused by youYou haven’t posted any evidence.
>>58904367I have, you're just sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LALALALALALALALAICAN'THEARYOUSOITCAN'TBETRUELALALALALALALALALALA" because deep down you know they went and made toys of an overgrown totodile, instead of whatever edgy wank (You) envisioned it deserved. And the only reason they'd do that was because putting time, money and effort into it to do what you wanted wasn't worth it.
>>58903695>CHADraligatr>>more fanart than any other za starterhaving more fanart than two of the least popular starters in the franchise is not the accomplishment you think it is. it hasn't even cracked 1000 on gelbooru >>is used more often online than the other za startersZA's meta is fanfic of fanfic >>if his mega gets strong jaw then he will be the first and only johto starter to actually be OUif it gets strong jaw it wont even outdamage OG gatr>>if he gets fishious rend it wont, little bro >Typedobeing up this gen alphafetus meme means you already lost >>a cheap copy of Charizard right down to the statsif you have to compare typhlosion to the single most propped up and shilled character in videogame history, you lost again >>shit movepoolnot really, at last not anymore >>femboy form also has a shit movepoolFire Ghost STAB is literally all it needs >>kiddy diddlerstop projecting >>is only good in gen 2 and bad in every gen it's allowed, and only used for one niche in the VGC (eruption)Eruption is infinitely more than Gatr has ever accomplished in VGC. Shit, OG Typhlosion might even be better than mega gatr if it gets fucking strong jaw >Shitganium>>shit stats that's literally just Venusaur's but rearrangedFeraligatr's are literally blastiose's but shuffled. at last shitganium's stats make sense for it. how the fuck is an allegator as slow as a turtle? >>not a good attacker to deal damage and since its defensive base stats are only 100 each it can't even wall goodits stats aren't even bad, the biggest issue was was its movepool and ability meant other grass types had more to offer , but that may longer be the case with the mega>>it is far more likely that its mega form will still be competitively unviablecoping hard >Embort>>fat ugly china bastardI mean, they got what they signed up for, what else would a chinese pig become,
>>58904664No, you’ve posted speculation. I’ve asked you for metrics and you’ve been unable to provide them. You went from insisting Totodile was popular, to denying you said so in the first place, and now you’re arguing with the voices in your head. And finally, because you’re unable to provide the barest bit of data, you were trying to sage the thread in an attempt to get the last post. I guess you’ll need to rely on other people for your points, because you certainly can’t do so yourself. For shame, anon.
The Meganiumtranny is spamming his scat fetish again.
>>58903682>no cunt reacted to any of the Johto trio the level of the original sethow would game freak know how cunts reactd to the Johto trio when nhey never fucking shilled them.
Johto might have the most mentally challenged starterfags fanbase ever created
>>58905388only the typedos
>>58905388only the toilegaturds
growin on ya
>>58903527meganium and her mega has a shit design tbhwy
