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Be honest. Do you hate the cat or its fanbase?
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>>58913642
no, I love her
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>>58913642
I don't hate any Pokémon. The same cannot be said about their fanbase.
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>>58913664
>The same cannot be said about their fanbase.
Funny enough it's always the grassfags
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>>58913642
DUDE
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>>58913642
Cat is fine but her fanbase has been obnoxious since day one.
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Only other grass fags whine about her bc it’s merch outsold every other grass starter
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>>58913664
What about him? I hate him. Do you?
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>>58913642
I like the cat and the fanbase. No complaints, only cat pussy.
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>>58913679
WEED
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>>58913642
I hate both.
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>>58913642
I fucking despise it and its fanbase
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>>58913642
I kinda miss when starters weren't min maxed as much as possible with busted HAs and actually had decent replacements within the regional dex, even in the TCG the meta is always starters, pseudos, legendaries, and shillmons (usually Lucario and Gardevoir) which has been getting pretty old
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>>58913642
She's sexo why would I hate her
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No but I do like watching Marco Pierre White Knorr cooking videos more than jerking off to her and certainly more than her fans
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>>58913928
funny how they gave Hisuian Samurott a solid card and then created Meowscarada EX which does the same thing
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>>58913990
That Vstar power is genuinely awful wow
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>>58913642
Both honestly
It’s a really ugly design which sucks because I love Sprigatito but it just keeps getting worse as it evolves.

I hate the fans who waifu this ugly thing just because it’s a drop of water in a desert filled with ugly shitty designs. Not just that, but they actually try to compare it with the actual starter goddesses of Primarina and Delphox.
We already have Chikorita line for the actual grass waifu and she has been lusting after human dick for 27 years.
Glad she is (literally) getting her flowers today but I hope the grass starter gets an actual sex queen one day so I can stop seeing that shitty cat.
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>>58913642
Any kot is good in my book. I know better than letting fanbases dictate what I like.
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>>58913928
> meta is always starters
Not even. most starters in the TPC are average, it’s literally just CHARIZARD that’s consistently good thought that’s more because that fucker gets so many cards there’s always at least one currently legal Charizard card that’s broken
>>58913990
Wait isn’t It’s Vstar just Munkidori’s ability with an extra energy except Munkidori can use its ability every turn? I know Munki came later but yikes that is terrible
Same because the card art is peak. But you’d think they’d make Hamurott’s card better since it’s the clear shillmon of the Hisui trio
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>>58913642
I was indifferent to it until its autistic fanbase kept spamming it here and in every thread, now I hate both
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>>58914030
Blaziken, Greninja, Decidueye are consistently good, but if you look at non-ex tech cards, Venusaur and Meganium and Serperior have gotten jungle totem abilities, Feraligatr had a good deck before 2025 rotation, Typhlosion ethan deck, Blaziken and Emboar energy acceleration, Torterra evo press, Sceptile had a cool deck in gen 7, Intelleon that gives 2 trainers on evolution
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I love him
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>>58913642
Both
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>>58913990
Meowshitta will never get card art as soulful thoughbiet
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>>58914186
*Meowscagada
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>>58914018
>I love Sprigatito but it just keeps getting worse as it evolves
Sprigatito is one of the most mediocre designs ever. Floragato is the peak of the line and a diamond among the coals of Gen9.
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I'm not so feeble minded to hate any pokémon design or the people on the internet who like any particular one. That's not to say I adore everything or support everyone's opinion on things but rather I disregard that which I don't care for (pokémon and fanbases) and find myself more amused by the people who get upset because other people online enjoy something they don't (or worse, begin heavily disliking something, due to how popular it becomes over their particular choice) than bothered they have an opinion different to mine.
But one day maturity will come for you too OP. You'll understand it then.
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>>58914186
Sure. Pocket had the best art. I like how it's a series with the art for the rest of the line.
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>>58914199
I think its design is clever. It is certainly a nod to cannabis use with the red eyes and leaf, it being able to produce therapeutic scents that relaxes and calm add to the theme. making the whiskers the fleur-de-lis is a nice touch.

I’m not sure what Floragato is supposed to be.
It stands on two legs and a has a yoyo now just because.
Fucking stupid.
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>>58914250
>It is certainly a nod to cannabis use with the red eyes and leaf
Meowscrada would've looked so much better if the mask was actually shaped like a cannabis leaf the mask it has just looks so ugly
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>>58914268
Everything about Meowscarada is ugly.
Whatever the case, the weed cat evolving eventually into a DMT jester at least makes sense.
I have no idea what Floragato is supposed to be in this line.
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>>58914250
Floragato does share the trickster vibes but more like puss in boots with the fur pattern than a thief/jester like Meowscarada.
Not sure about the jojo but it does make it so Floragato shares the vine with a flower thing that Meowscarada has while also giving Floragato some teen energy that works for a middle evo, so it's pretty cool.
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>>58914250
>>58914278
>themefag with a shallow reference pool
>mfw

1. Red is the default contrast color for green and every other Grass 'mon out there references herbal scents.
2. Floragato is modeled after a dated stereotype of female japanese delinquents but even without this the design isn't lazy nor ugly in any way, which is what matters to those who aren't pretentious.

I'm amazed that you can correctly identify that Meowscagada is fugly despite your lack of taste. A true example of a "broken clock".
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>>58914306
Floragato should have evolved into the Puss In Boots. It would have still been a jobmon but at least it would have made sense.
>Floragato does share the trickster vibes
>Not sure about the jojo
>>>my fucking face when
Yoyo TRICKS.
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>Gen 6
>Thought Delphox was cooler than Braixen but Braixen became the coomer meme pokemon
>Gen 9
>Think Floragato is cooler than Meowscarada but Meowscarada is the coomer meme pokemon
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>>58913642
I love both
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>>58914218
Not OP and while it *is* dumb to dislike something just because it's popular, it's reasonable to have disdain for the behaviors surrounding pokémon Meowscarada, both from their creators and the people who support them, as they are detrimental to the overall Pokémon experience.

TPC/Game Freak should not get away with doing things that would get other companies condemned and the main reason they do is because addicts to the Pokémon brand enable it.
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I hate it because it'd get the fanbase it got.
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>>58913642
I think she and her fanbase are great
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>>58914340
Braixen has a skirt, Delphox is a traffic cone
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>>58914375
>I hate it because it would get the fanbase it got
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>>58913642
Meowscashitta is fucking ugly and its fanbase is autistic
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quiet ivynig youre the biggest autist on this board
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>>58913642
As a starter, I don't like it - too humanoid and looks like a mascot. As a general Pokemon, it's fine...I guess? The fanbase also sucks, but that can be said for pretty much every starter from the past few gens.
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>>58914394
>Delphox is a traffic cone
Delphox never recovered from its dogshit 3DS model. All you needed to do was make it hunched over with its wand out like a witch is supposed to but gamefreak made it T pose and call it a day
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>>58914437
*MeowsCAGADA

Dumb EOL.
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>>58914519
brown hands typed this post
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>>58914472
They made everything t-pose. Braixen was latched onto, because it looked like a little girl and the pokémon fanbase is full of paedophiles. Delphox shares its body shape (and by definition its legs) but "teenager sexi, hurr". Them pairing it with a useless tart in the anime didn't help either (they really went and showed her incompetence by revealing it took a further 8 years to finally evolve her starter and start winning Contests consistently).
Mind, when you realise they wanted to sabotage both Chesnaught and Delphox for edgeforg, it makes better sense. Can't have a travelling partner with a potentially cooler pokémon, if you don't actually evolve to that final form to challenge it.
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>>58913642
Why would I hate it?
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>>58914340
Gen 6 fans seem to have the highest average estrogen levels out of any gen, so it's no surprise that the loli is more popular than the milf.
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>>58914675
>dude this is my waifu lel
>dude look at my waifu raped by others lmao XD
Why porn spammers are always into cuck fetish?
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>>58913642
I’m more baffled by Cinderace’s popularity desu
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>>58914675
It’s a trait shared by cat starters
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>>58913642
Both
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>>58914030
>shillmon
>hisui
pick one. It’s clearly tpc least favourite region
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>>58914654
I thought lolis were low estrogen/high testosterone
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>>58914744
No, the meme has always been that being into mature or heavy women requires high T.
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>>58914726
you think the dark-type isn't the shillmon of its trio?
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>>58914769
>every single starter trio since gen 6 has shilled the dark type one
>ZA has no dark type, all starters flop
We're never going to have a non-Dark trio ever again
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>>58914781
I didn't know Cinderace was Fire/Dark.
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>>58914795
>has protean
just make it use a dark move bro
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>>58914726
in this case shillmon is a relative term. Hisui Samurott may as well be CHARIZARD compared to the other two.

>>58914795
Libero sucker punch
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>>58914781
>>ZA has no dark type, all starters flop
Because they picked Emboar, Meganium, and Feralagtr, 3 of the most mid starter evos ever. If it was any other permutation of the un-gimmicked starters people would have liked them a lot more.
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>>58914769
>instantly job just to make charizard from kanto look better by comparison
lmao
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>>58914813
What jobbing? They're partners in that gameplay
at most it gives fuel to the Samuzard shippers
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>>58914695
It was the shillmon of its generation. It was shilled more than any other pokémon before or ever since (besides CHARIZARD). In particular, it's insulting that it was used for the Year of the WATER Rabbit events/promos/etc when Azumarill exists. You can just tell that TPC went full sunk-cost-fallacy with it after the polls revealed that many other pokémon were still way more popular despite all the investment on the shitty "rabbit".
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>>58914804
>>58914805
>becomes pure dark
>not a grass/fire/water and dark type like the rest the supposed patternfagging would attempt to describe
/vp/ try not to be delusional seethebags challenge tier impossible
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>>58914824
>it's insulting it was used for year of the rabit celebrations over muh unloved shitmon
They didn't mark the Wood Dragon, or the Metal Rat, so why the fuck do you think they were going to bother marking a Water Rabbit year, instead of just the Rabbit and using something infinitely more popular with the fanbase than some irrelevant shitter from Gen 2 they basically ignored up to they made it Fairy as a concession to its inspirations.
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>>58914795
I'll be real Galar's starters are just so incomprehensibly dogshit I forget they exist
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>>58914824
>You can just tell that TPC went full sunk-cost-fallacy with it after the polls revealed that many other pokémon were still way more popular despite all the investment on the shitty "rabbit".
They still shill it with merchandise. Frankly I’m surprised it caught on as well as it did. You’d think it would’ve fizzled out at this point.
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>>58914859
That's fair.

>>58914865
>Frankly I’m surprised it caught on as well as it did. You’d think it would’ve fizzled out at this point.
You could say the same about the Pokémon brand as a whole. Cinderace got popular for the same reason you could sell a bag of shit if it was official Pokémon merchandise.
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>>58914856
Because it's a WATER RABBIT.
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>>58913720
What do you hate about him?
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>>58914972
the design, the 1000 coins, the fact this piece of shit got the dex numer 1000
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>>58913928
Didn't know Goldengho and Dragapult were shillmons.
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>>58914865
pokemon fan consumerism is a meme for a reason, you can shill anything and it'll work
toxtricity and corviknight were the obvious standouts of the region but got no shilling so talk about them quieted down fast, meanwhile a mon like Pansage can place in Japanese Unova popularity polls just cause Cilan had one in the anime
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>>58914824
Yep that's why he's still getting merch into Gen 10 huh, kids buy his merch, he's not going anywhere anytime soon
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Really one of my fav mons of the ninth gen for how kinda cool it is but in a way think it's hate is over blown
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>>58913642
I hate the part of her fanbase that doesn't draw her with huge tits
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>>58915033
>that's why he's still getting merch into Gen 10 huh
Yes. That was exactly my point, idiot.
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>>58915081
kneel
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>>58913749
LMAO
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>>58915122
>those hands
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>>58913642
I am utterly indifferent to the cat. I feel almost nothing for it, besides the low levels of disdain I have for any anthro/furry design.
I might actually have net positive feelings for it, because Flower Trick being as torqued of a move as it is, but still being pretty mediocre just because it's a grass move, is very funny to me.
I dislike its fan base, but it's difficult to muster too much enthusiasm for parasitic gooners in any context.
I probably have more negative feelings towards people whining about it, than I do it OR its fanbase, but I also completely understand why they are whining, so it's hard to have that negative of an opinion of it.
I suppose. Exhausting. Meowscarada is exhausting, more than anything else. I feel nearly nothing for it, but avoid it because getting anywhere near it is going to turn into an entire fucking thing.
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>>58914936
>because it's MUH irrelevant shitmon
Yeah, pity they don't try and push irrelevant shitmons in merch collections, outside whole-generation additions like sitting cuties. Cinderace is so popular with kids, the nipponese football association signed a deal to use him as their mascot for their youth soccer camps. Small wonder they used it (also the fact it was the youngest rabbitmon added, meaning more likely to be used to promote YotR due to being freshest in the key demo's minds).
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>>58915020
Goldengho gets one of the best abilities as its signature ability and one of the best type combinations in the game what part of that doesn't scream shillmon to you
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>>58914763
I dunno, sounds a lot like shit fat old walled women would say.
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>>58915195
He doesn't get featured in complementary material as much as Gard, Zard, Greninja, Eevee, Lucario or Pikachu, among others, for starters.
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>>58915195
>what part of that doesn't scream shillmon to you
its ugly ass design
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>>58915184
they don’t give a shit about popularity when shilling shit. Reminder that they made fucking Emboar into a shillmon
>>58915207
Goldenboy has barely been costed for 2 years, give it time
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>>58915184
1. Azumarill hasn't been a shitmon since Gen3.
2. The mascot deal was forced by TPC as part of the shilling campaign and you know it- it happend way too early into Gen8 for it to have been a genuine request.
3. I'd tell you to go eat shit but you clearly love being full of it.
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>>58913642
I hate both
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>>58915236
>they don't give a shit about popularity. reminder they made a shillmon into a shillmon
Yes anon, by default, starters are shillmon, given they're associated with any particular gen as the initial faces, are the very first catch offered to every player and generally get a shitload more merch than the average in-region poké, let alone the shitmon of the series. Decidueye failed but it's still going to be used for Alolan shilling using the final forms and Hisui shilling using same going forward.
But that's ANOTHER reason why they used Cinderace over some who shitmon egg from Gen 2 - it's a starter and default shillmon, compared to the aforementioned shitmon Gen 2 thing. Azumarill only became normiepopular in Gen 9 raids with Belly Drum/Huge Power. And even then, you could always spot the shits who knew how to use it form the spergs who only used it because they got told it could be good (aside from gimmieghoul raid events, I rarely online raided but the few losses I took were as a result of retard azu users not knowing how to azu and wiping team timer). If no-one gave a shit for it before, why the fuck do you think TPC would to try and earn money?
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>>58915184
CinderBased
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>>58915237
No anon, outside handeggland, kids love soccer. Kids also love Pokémon, so a football-playing rabbit is fucking dovetailing two interests of kids. JFA's deal was a no-brainer, expand the reaches of their youth development program, by getting more kids out and interested in maybe playing organised footy. Because they approached TPC for THEIR upcoming youth program, not had TPC pitch a project where they only shilled ONE pokémon at children, instead of the ENTIRE gamut of shillmon favourites and the mascot.
If it "hasn't been a shitmon since gen 3" where's its VGC titles? It hasn't won any continental championships either. Few national, but looking at the winner's team, it's more likely he didn't in fact use the little shitmon, when he had Bulu, M-Gengar Kommo-o and Mr. VGC itself Incineroar.
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>>58915236
>Reminder that they made fucking Emboar into a shillmon
Once Gen 10 is announced they're dropping the ZA starters back into the dumpster
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>>58913642
I like both



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