If Pokémon Wind and Waves are 80 dollar Switch 2 exclusives yes there are plenty of adults willing to pay that price but it could cause children not to be given their first Pokémon game thus granting them less of those adults in the future. Many children were given their first video games and systems during pokemania when the Gameboy and its games were cheaper than its home console peers. It's very well possible that better graphics, full national dex and a massive open world to propel them into record breaking profits only for the consequences of this decision to not be fully realized a decade later.
poorfag cope thread
>>58915068> "$20 for a candy bar is way too expensive"> "what kind of poor fag doesn't have $20"
Making it a Switch 2 exclusive will push people towards actually getting the Switch 2. Pokemon is a system seller.I still haven't gotten a Switch 2 yet, and there's no games on the horizon that make me interested in getting it any time soon. But, if Wind/Waves ends up looking really good and is exclusive, I'd be tempted to get the Switch 2 for it, and then I'd go ahead and see what else is in the Nintendo catalog. Otherwise, I'm just waiting for... what? The next mainline Zelda that's gonna come out in five years?Kids are gonna end up playing pokemon regardless at this point. All my friends are getting their kids into pokemon, you can't go twenty feet in any store without seeing some pokemon product, there's a cartoon show and spinoffs and so much porn. Fucking hell there's so much porn. They're really not gonna need WW to pull children into the pokemon zeitgeist.
>>58915090>Kids are gonna end up playing pokemon regardless at this pointNot if they just get robux for Christmas instead
>>58915083When the candy bar sells 30 million copies plus extra dozens of millions of consoles required to eat the candy bar then yes you’re the coping retard
>>58915097Wrong I'm quite intelligent so anyone calling me a retard is coping
>>58915097>A company price gouging you is a you issue because other people are willing to let themselves be price gouged
>>58915107Correct. That’s how economics works. I’m glad you’re slowly learning.
>>58915094Robux might satisfy kid gambling addictions for some time, but once the kid gets some hair below their ears, Roblox is not gonna be able to compete with this.
>>58915064YeahOn its own, I don't think it would be enough, but with how fucked the economy is, kids simply are not getting a 500+ dollar present, especially when for that price you could get them a tablet or laptop for minecraft or roblox, which like 80% of kids would ask for first, that has tons more free shit to leave your kid to consume. Americans are too poor to buy this for their kids, and nowhere else actually has enough economic body to make up the deficit, as head in the sand as Nintendo is about the Japanese market. To be fair, I don't think taking 20 bucks off the top of pokemon itself would actually change this, it is still 500+. The normies just aren't going to buy this, the long-haul pokefags are too split between die-hards, and the ones that hate it on principle. A small venn diagram of people who bought the switch 2, but had no plans for themselves of getting pokemon, might still buy it for their kids as well, but I don't think 20 bucks is a swing for them either. For them, though, I think Pokémon just isn't competing with the games such kids are already being raised by, especially with the reputation pokemon games are gaining in the meme space, which is increasingly the primary culture inlet of 6 year olds. I think this will actually be the generation that kills pokemon. Not immediately, of course, the current population has another 6-8 years of being a primary consumer base, but this would nonetheless be a potentially fatal blow in the future, assuming nothing major is done to account for it.
>>58915118Images off of gelbooru?Yes, pokemon can't compete with gelbooru, even among children.
i hear this exact same shit every time pokemon jumps console generations
Parents will buy anything digital for their kids just to keep them quiet if they beg hard enough.Game Freak just needs to grab their attention.
>>58915155It's almost as if young adults poors think they're special enough for progress to stop and adhere to, regardless the generation of young adults crying they're poor and can't afford a console upgrade.
>>58915090>Kids are gonna end up playing pokemon regardless at this point.> and so much porn. Fucking hell there's so much porn. They're really not gonna need WW to pull children into the pokemon zeitgeist.>They're really not gonna need WW to pull children into the pokemon zeitgeist.Anon?
There's also the high likelihood that Beast of Reincarnation flops. It's another shitty plastic, Unreal Engine slop game ripping off more popular games like Dark Souls and Elden Ring.It doesn't look good or unique or interesting. It looks like every single shitty game that's come out of China, Korea or Japan in the past 14 years. ZA was already a complete disaster, everyone hated the DLC and no one is talking about ZA anymore. That's not even factoring how shit the economy has been for quite a while, even in "first world countries", people can't afford the absurd fucking prices that Nintendo and Gamefreak has been trying to gouge them for. And it's really obvious ZA, SV and even Winds and Waves suffered and will suffer because of how many assets and money is going straight to BoRing. I hope Gamefreak finally suffers the consequences for their incompetence and greed.Oh also, unrelated, but it's been confirmed in the Teraleak Gamefreak has been using AI for basically everything, one of their composers was in a small scandal a little while back because he admitted to using AI to make his songs. Both Mega Raichu were absolutely made with AI, Gamefreak has been using AI to make renders and even the maps are now procedurally generated by you guessed it, AI.
>>58915064Parents are willing to fork out for anything that does parenting or babysitting for them. They don't want to even parent anymore. This is the now gramps. Its even more prominent now.
>>58915155It really is different this time, as someone who has also heard it said every console jump. The DS and 3DS were consoles many kids got by default, if for no other reason than to make kids be quiet on drives. Maybe the odd PSP instead, but, these things had the sales they did for a reason.The Switch COULD have been risky, it was more expensive, and is dubious as a handheld, but the Switch was reasonably priced, at a much better time economically. It was also something a lot more normies had passing interest in, mostly because of Breath of the Wild and Oddesy, that kids more incidentally benefitted from.The Switch 2 still doesn't really have anything with that same mass appeal. Mario Kart isn't normie food, nobody but aging millennials gives a shit about Air Riders, Bananza isn't Oddesy, and Zelda still runs just fine on the Switch 1. People are still cagey about it, and the economy is super fucked, with a decent liklihood of it getting even worse by year's end, when people start thinking about Christmas. If the economy miraculously recovers, maybe, but the liklihood of that only keeps dropping as more and more is pumped into the ai bubble, nothing is done about unemployment, ect. People are suffering, and suffering people do not buy their children 500+ dollar Christmas presents. They MIGHT buy their children a 2, or even 300 dollar present, keep up that layer of denial that things are fine when they're not, but not 500. Again, this isn't really an issue of Pokemon's pricing itself. If it was 80 on the switch 1, it would be absolutely fine, people would do that. But it isn't on the switch 1.
>>58915166No.Parents will buy the cheapest digital solution to keeping their kids quiet. Not anything.This is why Pokemon always worked, historically.Pokemon has priced itself out of this niche, and now a tablet is better for this purpose.
>>58915190Anon, people have been saying that since 2016, it simply isn't true. If a kid is specifically asking for the newest Pokemon, no parent is going to tell them to just keep playing Minecraft on their tablet and shut up.Yes, dedicated consoles for games have gotten more expensive, that's why Pokemon comes out during the holidays now.Seriously, does anyone here actually know people with kids?
>>58915220people here are manchildren who unironically believe adults should be the target audience for pokemon despite the only growth vector being kids
>>58915177Anon, if they were expecting, hoping or desiring BoR to be anything but a tech demo to further evolve the series by getting to deeper grips developing for memeboxes to then apply those lessons to Pokémon, they wouldn't right now be working on Gen 10, knowing full well it's going to completely and utterly overshadow BoR's performance across TWO fucking systems, regardless how actually good it winds up being (not interesting me rn. Giving me too much ICO vibes and it was dickrode to hell and back for its art choices, than for its compelling, or revolutionary gameplay, setting or ethos). It's time to admit despite having MANY opportunities to actually develop pokémon with adults in mind (going right back to Mario Club in the 90's pissing Tajiri off to the point of having to tell them to shut the fuck up asking, because they wanted it to give greater thought to adult spergs like they playing games for a job), they've resolutely kept their series aimed at the audience Tajiri first developed it for. And as a result, it's lasted 30 years while other games and series rose, fell and wound up footnotes in history, because they tried to chase the trends, than do what they did so well before.
>>58915181There's going to be a povvo version on-sale, just as Nintendo released a povvo revision of ALL their handheld titles to coincide with new Pokémon games since 2006. Fuck, even taking the rumours of Switch 2's apparent readiness for 2024 in hand, that leaves the (traditional) two year window for production and release of a Lite version model, to be ready for Pokémon's 2026 debut.You're right, there's no big killer app for S2 like BotW was for S1. But that doesn't mean the entire world will suddenly ignore Gen 10/Switch 2. It's still going to sell its usual disgustingly large amount of copies because unlike in one market, the rest of the world don't have a dickhead at the controls taxing retards for voting for him and allowing him to cut tax on the richer motherfuckers of their nation, while the economic squeeze is happening. People still going to buy vidya if they want, parents are still going to buy or try to buy the shit their crotchspawn asks for for christmas and Pokémon's still going to sell to people more put together than the average great unwashed motherfucker on the planet who thinks screaming on the internet will change anything about her shitty life.
>>58915064>If Pokémon Wind and Waves are 80 dollarDon't be stupid, learn how the industry works. Gamefreak doesn't decide shit like that or what kind of budget they have for developing the game, it is the publisher of the game (Nintendo) that decides these things.
>>58915155the DS and the 3DS games didn't cost as much or more than Playstation games.
>>58915278Bro Gamefreak owns a third of the Pokémon company.
>>58915118Fortnite has gooner shite.
>>58915064>>58915090>>58915094>>58915146You retards are forgetting that after the Covid hit, people weren´t having as much kids, not to mention about the fact that most of western fanbase is comprised of Disney/Pokemon adults who are sore, chidlless losers who need to throw their wage-slave earned shekels in something to give purpose in their lonely, pathetic and sorry lives
>>58915090>if Wind/Waves ends up looking really goodit won't
>>58915220>2016,Except that the economy of one of the biggest economic powerhouses of the world (US) has worsened from that point
>>58915270They are selling because of partnerless, and familyless incel, consoomerist losers a.k.a Disney/Pokemon adults buying their slop like brainwashed cattle, not kidsThe few people who manage the luxury of bringing kids to this world aren't definitely going to buy an overpriced console that could be easily replaced by a laptop with the excuse of "homework device", you big idiot
>>58915380>The few people who manage the luxury of bringing kids to this world aren't definitely going to buy an overpriced console that could be easily replaced by a laptopThey will if the kids ASK FOR IT, you fucking moron. This isn't the 80 where every parent is a boomer that thinks every video game is a nintendo they already have at home.
>>58915270kek
>>58915064Here’s the thing: they’ve been focusing more on mobile phones with plenty of Pokémon apps because, let’s face it, they’re cheap to make and an easy way to introduce the franchise to kids. Sure they’re still making mainline console games like always, but for one main reason: Nintendo
>>58915177Yeah I was wondering about that last bit, was it the whole switch era?
>>58915362That's the point. It could be the highest selling game because of those disney adults but that approach is insustainable.
I saw people make this exact same argument for the Switch 1 games and they did just fine.Hell, Z/A is already $80 if you count the dlc.
>>58915431TPC front spin off production budgets. Small wonder Ishihara isn't spending even the barest minimum to make a 3D game, when he, you and I know no cunt in 2026 gives a shit for spin off games - kids play mobileshit (ishi's following his demo) and adults play other shit that does what pokémon's attempting in spin offs better. Only spin off that adults actually give a fuck for is GO and that's because it's basically the Game Freak games adapted to mobile.
nintards are kikeslave goycattle cultists so they will buy both versions and their respective dlcs just like they did for all the previous titlesand then they will whine and throw a toddler tantrum if gta 6 is priced anything above $60
Friendly reminder that if the games aren't actually $79 I reserve the immutable right to say that I got them on sale for $69 and will refer to their prices as on sale.
>>58915118Maybe pick an actual good and attractive female and then you would have an arguement
>>58915064>actually being concerned about prices of Ninty's console games I'll be emulating the entirety of Switch2's software library before this year ends like any normal person who values their money OP. And the money I had saved this way will be spent on a life-sized Glaceon sex doll (with a fortune cookie pussy molded onto it by some bugman wageslave in China).
