Whos making it to OU?
>>58916735>flareon still the worst of the bunch even with a super shill movelmao
>>58916735>Whos making it to [arbitrary fanfic tier of arbitrary fanfic format decided on the whim of a discord council]How would I know?
Umbreon is already RU and used in OU sometimes, over Mandibuzz.Reflect on an attack would push him to UU. But OU? nahThe others, no. No chance.
>>58916749I think Espeon Leafeon could. Getting a free Light screen on top of psychic is insanely good when magic bounce already makes it immune to status moves.On the right sun team chlorophyll Leafeon can turn a wicked set with Sappy Seed, Synthesis, wish, protect
what are these names they are so stupid
>>58916807NoA localizations. The japanese names aren't retarded like this.
>>58916807Baby's first Pokemon game gets exclusive moves with baby tier names.
>>58916836>NoA localizations. The japanese names aren't retarded like this.Why would someone go on the Internet and just tell lies?>いきいきバブル>わるわるゾーン>ふわふわフォールYou cannot tell me with a straight face all of them are not on the same level as the localised Partner exclusive move names. Or are you just pretending to be some mega-weeb who doesn't know a lick of Japanese?
>>58916735This moves did get changes to them in games after Lets Go, you just can't use them.>Bouncy Bubble, 60 Power, heals for 100% of damage delt>Buzzy Buzz, 60 Power, always Paralyzes >Sizzly Slide, 60 Power, always Burns>Glitzy Glow, 80 Power (Acc 95%), sets up Light Screen>Baddy Bad, 80 Power (Acc 95%), sets up Reflect>Sappy Seed, 100 Power (Acc 90%), seeds Target>Freezy Frost, 100 Power (Acc 90%), resets stat changes>Sparkly Swirl, 120 Power (Acc 80%), has the same effect as Heal Bell
>>58916793>EspeonWorse Hatterene by far. A fast frail psychic types in a meta with dark and steel types + knock off spam is not doing too well.>LeafeonSun reliant. You don't want to buff paradox pokemon for free.
>>58916864>waru waru zoneking shit
>>58916871The artist just couldn’t resist slapping a tranny flag on the sylveon
>>58916735I always felt like Leafeon was one good change from being a powerhouse, maybe a good big grass STAB plus seeding to take advantage of that huge Def stat will be enough
>>58916735What the literal fuck are these move names?
Aren't the partner moves created PRECISELY to make up for Eevee not evolving into those eeveelutions? Why would the actual eeveelution need those?
>>58916807They’re supposed to be cute
>>58917301Because they all suck as of Gen 6
>>58916735>Buzzy Buzz>Baddy BadGod I forgot how bad these names are
>>58916864>He doesn't know that Waru can mean evil, villainous or morally wrongNasty plot is Waru Dakumi,
Don't think any of them would see OU most if not all of them would love having it.>>58916871>Bouncy BubbleAww yes, just what water needed: STAB Giga Drain>Buzzy Buzz>Sizzly SlideMost likely have better options but guaranteed status is nubad. Both would have loved the moves having 90 BP.>Glitzy Glow>Baddy BadSetting up screens while keeping on offense is pretty fucked but at least Espeon has to deal with Dark types existing.>Sappy SeedWould make Leafeon pretty nasty in sun when it's not missing.>Freezy FrostAn Ice type that can offensively clean buffs is a pretty neat Niche.>Sparkly SwirlDunno how it compares to just running Hyper Voice but the cleric effect is pretty handy.
>>58916735I unironically would use Baddy Bad to replace Reflect on an Umbreon.
>>58917448>Aww yes, just what water needed: STAB Giga DrainBouncy Bubble is exclusive to Vaporeon. You'd have take off scald to run it Ice beam, ,Alluring Voice, and shadowball as the only other coverage moves.It'd be a great help to Wish-Leftovers set of Vaporeon to keep it constantly healing but it isn't broken as a stall mon.>Most likely have better options but guaranteed status is nubad. Both would have loved the moves having 90 BP.Nah, Flareon would kill to have the 90BP physical attack and Buzzy Buzz is just a straight upgrade to Thunderbolt. Jolteon is now a status machine that can bypass magic guard>Setting up screens while keeping on offense is pretty fucked but at least Espeon has to deal with Dark types existing.Umbreon already runs screens, this just makes it able to keep momentum rather than using reflect. Espeon because a special wall that is also immune to status moves which is a big deal. >Dunno how it compares to just running Hyper Voice but the cleric effect is pretty handy.If we are talking the 80% accuracy version, its hot garbage. But the 90BP 100% accurate version is pretty nice, but Slyveon isn't really bulky enough to be a heal bell proxy when it needs either hyper voice to hit through subs or Moonblast for just consistent damage and the occasionally stat drop.>An Ice type that can offensively clean buffs is a pretty neat Niche.Honestly, this move is wasted on Glaceon because its slow and frail with the worst defensive typing so its not gonna be able to survive a boost sweeper to pull this off.
>>58916735Holy fuck I forgot those broken moves from LGPE
>>58917672they didn't make Eevee that broken, he wasn't in at the top of OU despite being able to use 4 of them.
>>58916739It would be a shoah if it wasn't.
>>58916871>>Sizzly Slide, 60 Power, always Burns>>Glitzy Glow, 80 Power (Acc 95%), sets up Light Screen>>Baddy Bad, 80 Power (Acc 95%), sets up Reflect>>Sappy Seed, 100 Power (Acc 90%), seeds TargetAbsolute cancer
>>58916864Waru Waru Zone sounds like the name of a Super Mario 64 level.
>>58917428"Waruwaru" is a cutesy way of saying bad. "Baddy Bad" is a pretty good translation that keeps the cutesy feel of the original Japanese.
>>58916735Sylveon move is a free heal bell in a 90 pwer move. This one.
>>58918154Sounds like some level from an obscure Sonic spinoff from the 90s
>>58916735Espeon MAYBE. Really low chance since its still an Eeveelution constricted to certain stat distribution, but it has the best stat distribution by far and free screens is nice.The problem is that while these moves would be broken on most Pokemon, they’d be stuck on dogshit Pokemon or Pokemon that are primarily defensive.Flareon, Jolteon, Glaceon, and Leafeon are shit.Vaporeon and Umbreon are both defensive, and Vaporeon prefers Scald.Sylveon prefers to spam Pixilate moves and honestly has the least useful of the LGPE moves.The only Eeveelution that’s halfway decent while also wanting to use the move is Espeon. And claiming Espeon is good enough for OU with a move that sets Light Screen while attacking is a bit of a stretch when said move got nerfed in power and accuracy too.
>>58916735>>58916871They are gonna struggle to be even relevant in UU at best.Some of the Eeveelutions won't even use the LGPE moves. Scald is way better than Bouncy Bubble, and Pixilate Hyper Voice is more reliable and has better utility.Flareon, Jolteon, Leafeon, and Glaceon have no movepool to speak of and only Jolteon has halfway decent stats.Espeon and Umbreon are actually decent enough to possibly be UU.
>>58916749>him
>>58917428Now tell me how the semantics change when you repeat the word.
>>58916735Whoever approved those names should be locked in a porta potty then pushed off a mountain
>>58918211I could see Sylveon running both Hyper Voice and Sparkly Swirl. Its fourth move tends to be mostly filler like Draining Kiss.
>>58916864none of them come even close to the level of awful that "buzzy buzz" and "baddy bad" are
>>58918211But what if......... eeveelutions could use all of the moves if evolved from a partner eevee?Espeon could have a powerful 90BP Dark move that is special and also sets up reflectEspeon with:- Baddy Bad- Glitzy Glow- Freezy Frost- Buzzy BuzzWould be insanely meta. It could come in on practically anything. outspeed most of the meta and get the screen it needs up. Leafeon with Sappy Seed and Sizzly Slide would go hard in the sun.
>>58918167I mean its hard to name things for the "evil" type in a baby game.
>>58916735Why did she incluce the wrong stat for Baddy Bad
>>58919265>could come in on practically anything>Espeon
>>58919673Because for whatever reason Baddy Bad is a Special Move despite Umbreon actually having a higher Attack stat.
>>58919688What is going to outspeed it and threaten a OHKO in OU?Roaring Moon?Meowscarada?Iron Boulder?Weavile?Dragapult?Very few options that it can't switch in on, and even if they switch into one of these Espeon is still getting one of those broken moves off, putting up screen, or status.
>>58919752Pretty much everything that can come on against Gengar can do so with Espeon. Arguably more things can take on Espeon since at least Gengar is immune to 2 types and quad resists 2 types.
>>58916864Vim BubbleElec JoltScintillateAura OverloadMischief ZoneSprout BomberFlash FreezeSparkle Storm
>>58916735>VaporeonProbably RU, maybe UU. It would have a lot more variety in its movesets since it could be a support Pokemon or set up with Calm Mind + Bouncy Bubble to heal itself while slotting in Ice Beam, Scald, Trail Blaze, or Stored Power depending on the meta. It still wouldn't exactly be potent, but its variety would make it hard to handle.>JolteonUU most likely. a 90 base power SpA that always paralyzes would make it a monster in Gen 9 with Tera Ice. If Tera goes away, it'd probably be NU, RU at best even with Buzzy Buzz>FlareonIt's not leaving PU. Stats are too shit and it already has great Fire options. >EspeonNU/RU. It's more of a tech option on Stored Power sets, but you could potentially run it as a bulky support Pokemon that sets up screens, bounces status, and still hits decently hard without investment while setting up Light Screen. The problem is that Dark types are all over the place in lower tiers, and you could have your Light Screen blocked by someone switching in Bisharp or Zoroark or Krookodile or Umbreon or...>UmbreonUU at best. Baddy Bad is decent, nothing is immune to it unlike all of the above, and Umbreon already has room for another move on its set, but it's not like Umbreon is exactly hard to break for an OU team. UU would have a significantly harder time busting it up, though, but OU is lousy with Fairy and Fighting types.>LeafeonNU, RU at best. Its stats are okay, but it's got DOGSHIT abilities and a very shallow movepool. Sappy Seed would be a decent upgrade to Leaf Blade, don't get me wrong, but it's still a one trick pony. It has Lilligant syndrome - dangerous Grass type Pokemon that could potentially win games on its own as long as your opponent didn't carry any of the 44.2% of Pokemon that resist Grass type attacks. >GlaceonPU, perhaps even worse than Flareon. No, Haze on a decent Ice type attack is not enough to make Glaceon worth using. Ice is the worst type in the game and its stats are shit to boot
>>58919752Cinderace doesn't even need to click U-turn to OHKO Espeon bro. It cleanly OHKOs with its regular STAB252 Atk Cinderace Pyro Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Espeon: 273-322 (100.7 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>>58919933>>58919752Oh, and even one of the weakest attackers in the tier is tearing Espeon up>0 Atk Corviknight U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Espeon: 136-162 (50.1 - 59.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKOThe only Pokemon Espeon can safely switch in on in Gen 9 OU are Glowking, Alomomola, and Garganacl. All 39 other Pokemon either 1HKO or 2HKO it without feeling threatened by any of its attacks.
these names arent so bad in general, but the dark one pisses me off so much
>>58919945You're maddy mad
>>58919265>All Eeveelutions get all Lets Go movesAll of the Special Attackers would go up massively in usage. Leafeon would go up with the Sizzling slide for coverage and status, which would only make it even deadlier in the sun.Unfortunately Flareon is just too slow and frail to even get any mileage out of Baddy Bad or Glitzy Glow, both working off its mid special attack state. Flareon also already runs trailblaze for coverage and to try and make up for its shit speed while boosted by Guts, but Sappy Seed is not keeping his ass alive. Nothing can save him from the Hoenn special.
>>58916735None of them.Most of the extra effects aren't actually that impactful, or are at odds with what the pokemon actually wants. Leafeon probably gets the most out of it, but Leafeon is so far below par that it isn't helping.Espeon probably second most, it gets an interesting button to press after it magic bounces something. Umbreon has 4mss out the ass, it isn't fitting this and doesn't want it. Vaporeon has Scald, and can't fit a second wayer move.Flareon is too frail and slow to be wisp-ing thingsFreezy Frost sucks dickheal bell is kinda niche anyways and Sylveon doesn't really vibe with cleric duty, but it definitely Like, most of these are things the evolutions can already do, but usually don't. Making it slightly better doesn't fundamentally change that. Jolteon getting a better thunder wave doesn't really mean it's taking thunder wave.
>>58920059You know all their base powers got lowered to 60 though, right?Like, internally, if you look at the moves, they have 60. Not 90.
>>58916739How is a 90 power will-o-wisp bad?
>>58920341>Jolteon getting a better thunder wave doesn't really mean it's taking thunder wave.Bro, its Thunder Bolt with a 100% chance Paralyze chance. Thats massive for Jolteon.>>58920346Changed in the game's data, but we are talking about as they are in the original game.
>>58920488It does nothing to help Flareon's game plan. He is too frail and low to even get off a Sizzling Slide and flare blitz is a better button to nuke with its massive offense seeing how it won't live more than 1 turn.